December 1st – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #316

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2,444 Responses to December 1st – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #316

  1. Pam says:

    The amendment fails 29-72.

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  2. Pam says:

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  3. treehouseron says:

    Now the amendment is up trying to add back in the SALT deduction. I DO deduct my taxes but I’m on the edge, and I’d much rather just be able to take the standard deduction and make everything much simpler if they’ve got it balanced out a little bit so I’m glad to see it go personally.

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    • treehouseron says:

      Thune is doing a great job destroying this amendment. Also reminds everybody there is a deduction of up to 10k already in the bill, and that the only people that will take more than that will be wealthy people.

      Seems like a good compromise to me, although I’d rather even the 10k wasn’t in there.

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    • treehouseron says:

      Very close on this one, but the “Nos” have it.

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    • trapper says:

      If you are on the edge you are going to get a tax increase. Much is made of them doubling the standard deduction, but they are also eliminating the personal exemption, in effect rolling it into the increased standard deduction, so the deduction in fact is NOT being doubled. It’s a sleight of hand, a three card monte game they are playing against us with our own money. The American middle class is being screwed, divided up and pitted against each other, at the same time the GOPe sets a “read my lips” trap for Pres Trump. The GOPe lie as much as the democrats do. It is disgusting to watch.

      But they still don’t get us. If they think we will turn against Trump they don’t know us at all. This just hardens my anger and resolve against the Republicans.

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      • treehouseron says:

        President Trump could raise my taxes and I’d still support him.

        don’t tell him that though.

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        • trapper says:

          Yes. The Republicans in congress own this, not Pres Trump. They think we are stupid and don’t understand who is doing this to us. We know. And we will remember. Slow burn, like an underground coal seam fire.

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          • treehouseron says:

            I was thinking about it a couple days ago…. he’s so vocal with everything, there isn’t a person ON THE PLANET that blames him for Obamacare not being repealed. We all know he did everything he could, and everybody blames the republicans. They’ve GOT to be smart enough to know he’s the most Teflon Don of all time.

            It’s pretty shocking to me that we haven’t gotten any Senators kissing up to him yet to try and ride his coat tails. I mean if little Jouranalists like Katie Pavlich can figure it out (she was Never Trump, now acts like she’s a big fan) and if guys like Mark Levin can figure it out… you’d think that more senators could figure it out.

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        • Albertus Magnus says:

          My feelings exactly, Ron!

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      • Sedanka says:

        Please define “on the edge.” Whose taxes will go up?

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  4. Timmy-the-Ute says:

    Anyone else having trouble getting straight news today. Even Sundance is hard to understand. Should I worry about Mueller? Is there going to be a tax bill pass? Drudge, Breitbart, Alex Jones are out on their own narrative. Foxnews is spreading this T-Rex being fired story. What is going on?

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    • Grandma Covfefe says:

      Freaky Friday
      🙂

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    • NoOneButTrump says:

      Mueller is blowing smoke. Flynn guilty plea saves his son and doesn’t implicate anyone else. Everything else is wishful thinking on liberals’ part. The tax bill will pass, but this is only one step toward getting it into law. Drama will continue, but at least it’s a step in the right direction. T-Rex isn’t going anywhere. Go to bed. Enjoy your weekend. President Trump has things well in hand.

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    • treehouseron says:

      Timmy here’s what we know.

      1. President Trump says Rex isn’t fired. That’s the end of the story.
      2. I’m watching the Tax cut be passed right now on cspan. Apparently the republicans have decided to make it happen.
      3. This Mueller thing is all ‘process crimes’, and the President can pardon anybody including himself.

      Don’t worry, President Trump has it. If they take him down, rest assured the entire game was lost long ago and nobody would have been able to save us. Leave it in the hands of God, President Trump will let us know if there’s anything we need to do.

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      • WSB says:

        It just really burns me that the FBI can lie that they have no records on the Lynch Clinton tarmac meeting, then forced to issue them by Judicial Watch, and Flynn is indicted for being set up by the Obama administration?

        I still do not understand this.

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      • dekester says:

        Your last paragraph is 100% correct, and he will. He will ” spill the beans” in a national address. Provide proof, and name names.

        He will light the fuse and stand back, kinda like a business bankruptcy. De construct before you can rebuild.

        I hear that your Senate has over three hundred bills sitting in their “in box”

        Tragic..it really is.

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      • mariner says:

        They’re not taking him down.

        He’s taking them down.

        Wait until LGEN Flynn starts singing to investigators about all the crimes he knows about in the Obama administration.

        Suddenly they won’t even remember Flynn HAS a son.

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    • WSB says:

      I feel the same way. May resort to the Food Channel.

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    • Ace says:

      “Obama”and Mrs. Bill Clinton tried to set up Trump and failed. That’s all you need to know.

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    • trapper says:

      All smoke and mirrors and chaff to distract us while the American middle class Trump supporters get hosed in the senate.

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    • Trish in Southern Illinois says:

      Wasn’t there a rare earthquake on the east coast yesterday? You sure wouldn’t know it if you watch the “news.”

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      • Another thing not mentioned on the “news” is that the two Border agents that were beaten and one killed, it is now believed by the sheriff and officials that a tractor trailer side swiped them while they were standing on the bridge, and that’s how they were so bloody and beaten. Right…..Probably planned to push depending on how the verdict with Kate Steinle went. Know we just have to keep these dacaca’s in here and all of their 9.000,000,000 chain migrated relatives cause they are really such good kids. Tired of the lies.

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    • CountryclassVulgarian says:

      You didn’t miss a thing. Donald J. Trump is the POTUS. All is well. Everything else is VERY fake news.

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      • CountryclassVulgarian says:

        Yes, the tax bill may pass…. I don’t trust the UniParty republicans so I’m not holding my breath. Everything else is still very fake news.

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  5. citizen817 says:

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    • trapper says:

      That means there go any Logan Act issues. It is right and good that an outgoing administration would approve and facilitate contacts between the president elect and foreign governments so that there would be a seamless passing of the baton.

      But that is not what I find curious. Knowing that his conversations were Obama-approved, and also presumably knowing that we were recording every conversation Kislyak had with everyone, why in the world would Flynn lie about any of it? That is what puzzles me.
      That is what jumps out. It doesn’t follow. It is a contradiction, and those don’t exist.

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      • mariner says:

        To provide the excuse for Mueller to indict a process crime and “coerce” Flynn’s “cooperation” with investigators about other bigger crimes by people other than the Trump campaign.

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        • treehouseron says:

          I hope you’re right. There’s about a 15 or 20% chance that Flynn is taking one for the team, and willing to take the arrows to bring down some big fish and help the country.

          He always struck me as a ‘maverick’ , a complete bad ass willing to do whatever he had to do. I think he’s got some dirty laundry though.

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      • treehouseron says:

        I think he lied about it, because he’s a little crooked and there’s other things they don’t know. Remember all the hub bub at the time was that he was working for the Ukraine or something at the time and hiding it from the transition team, or something like that. He’s got a lot of stuff up in the air, like a mini-Manafort.

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      • WSB says:

        I agreee. It’s maddening because Flynn would have known better.

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  6. Pam says:

    Latest amendment fails 48-52

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  8. treehouseron says:

    At LEAST two or three more amendments coming up. Lyin’ Ted up first. He holds up the bible… then he puts it down and LIES, LIES, LIES.

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  9. Pam says:

    Next up now, Cruz amendment.

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  10. treehouseron says:

    This Cruz amendment sounds good for what little Cruz presented of it. I’m sure there’s some ‘bite you in the ass’ provision he hid in there, but it sounds like he wants a tax credit, like a tax free account, for people to send their kids to schools like private schools and catholic schools. I don’t have any problem with that.

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  11. Albertus Magnus says:

    I, for one, just wish to never hear that POS ever speak again. His behavior at the National GOP convention last summer only confirmed my already poor opinion of that blowhard showboat.

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    • treehouseron says:

      I don’t know if I’ve ever seen someone be such a jackass on a stage that big. I mean I’ve seen people do some stupid stuff in public, but the way he got booed the hell off the stage and stood their fake waving and grinning because he had already rehearsed that’s how you walk off the stage was just pathetic. I actually felt sorry to see that blow up in his damn face so hard. CRINGEWORTHY to watch.

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  12. Pam says:

    It looks like the Cruz amendment is dead.

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  13. Timmy-the-Ute says:

    If Flynn has already made a deal with Mueller and plead guilty to lying to the FBI to the judge, then what more can Mueller get from him. Usually when you get a deal from the prosecutor, it means that’s the end. So far no new evidence that there was collusion has come out. What happened to Manafort and Flynn was what was already out months ago. Where is the beef?

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    • treehouseron says:

      There’s no beef… and to boot, they keep attacking our ‘least favorite’ MAGA team members. Does anybody really care if Manafort or Flynn go down? I know I don’t. If Trump, or his family, or Pence, or his family, or Steve Miller, or a few others went down i’d be pissed. The rest? Meh.

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  14. treehouseron says:

    WHERE’S MIKE PENCE WHEN YOU NEED HIM???? CALLING RACE BANNON!!!! CALLING RACE BANNON!!!!

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  15. treehouseron says:

    Looks like a miscount, did this one need 60 or 50?

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  16. Pam says:

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  17. Pam says:

    I’m only seeing 49-50 on my TV screen.

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  18. Pam says:

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  20. Regina says:

    who has the bong?

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  21. Regina says:

    I hope they drain the CBO next

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  22. treehouseron says:

    Are they literally waiting on Pence? They may be….

    I believe (just guessing, though) that if there’s a tie the vp HAS to break the tie. I don’t think you can just drop it, and honestly it wouldn’t be fair to Cruz to just drop it.

    The C-span graphic at the bottom isn’t official, it’s just what they heard.

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  23. Pam says:

    Pence now occupying the chair. He votes in the affirmative.

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  24. Regina says:

    I never noticed before how much Caine looks like Dilbert’s pointy haired boss

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  25. LBB says:

    I’m not sure if you noticed SD started a Tax Bill Vote thread . Maybe we could all get in one room.

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  26. treehouseron says:

    Tim Kaine literally looks like the Joker. I cannot believe, I cannot even fathom, I cannot and will not ever accept that Hillary Clinton was so stupid that she chose that moron, that drooling imbecile to be her Vice Presidential Candidate.

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  27. Pam says:

    Good night folks. Someone else will have to take over for me. 😉

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