Sunday November 26th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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117 Responses to Sunday November 26th – Open Thread

  1. SoCalPatriot says:

    Sundance – what is your guess on Q4 GDP?


  2. citizen817 says:

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    • BakoCarl says:

      Also, from the compact itself, the reason for the journey . . .(in part)

      “Having undertaken, for the Glory of God, and advancements of the Christian faith . . .”

      I wonder how many schools teach this.

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    • Joe2pt.0 says:

      Thanks for pointing that out. Those men and women were incredibly brave, if not a bit nieve. I will always be thankful for them.

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  4. Garrison Hall says:

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  5. Lucille says:

    Altiplano in Bolivia

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  6. citizen817 says:

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    • millwright says:

      You can occasionally run across these today in antique shops ! There is ( or was ) one right here in town some years’ back. FAIK it might still be there ! Fifty years back myself and a friend restored one for someone else. He wanted to see it shoot, so we loaded it with what we had to hand ( ball bearing balls and nails ) and shot it at a groundhog raiding his vegetable patch. The groundhog was proceeding along a board fence line. When the smoke cleared the hog was dead and the fence in tatters !

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      • smiley says:

        ball bearing balls and nails and shot it at a groundhog

        how utterly cruel and inhumane.


        • Katherine McCoun says:

          I think it’s safe to say it was instanteously dead and suffered nothing.

          If killing groundhogs, however quickly, is in humane then you have never gardened with the expectation of eating what you grow. When an animal is eating your groceries, they must be dispatched and an instant kill is a humane way to do it.

          As fun as it must have been to shoot that gun (no, not fun to kill, fun to operate the machinery and interesting because it was a unusual gun) I would be horrified to shoot all in my garden space! Don’t want metal next to my tomatoes and don’t want nails next spring in the garden where I am walking and digging, often by hand! Even worse when the nails become old and rusty!

          However, I will bet it was a thrill. Interesting story and piece of history.

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          • JoAnn Leichliter says:

            My collie dispatches them with incredible quickness.

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            • piper567 says:

              that’s the ticket.
              One year when I was raising show dahlias, I had mole patrol 2x a day. I had raised beds, and my dog knew exactly what was going on:
              I would see a tunnel a-running, and grab that sucker through the dirt, and toss it over the deer fence to the dog.
              What fun!!
              Didn’t take long.
              Lived on a good property: lots of room besides my garden for the moles.
              kin of an IQ test, you’d think.


        • millwright says:

          Perhaps, from an innocent’s POV. But for gardeners relying upon their efforts, farmers contending with their mounds and holes in hayfields breaking harvest equipment and wagon reaches, or horse breeders forced to kill a promising colt or mare due to stepping into a ground hog hole, probably not so much ! I suspect even garden vegetables see them as voracious and indiscriminate predators !!


  8. Lucille says:

    Incredible architecture…Valencia, Spain, City of the Arts and Sciences

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  9. citizen817 says:

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  11. smiley says:

    by Nick Veasey ~ UK (b.1962, London) ~Contemporary~ Xray Photography ~ Xray/Digital Imaging

    xrays of flowers !

    he doesn’t just do flowers, more here…


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  12. smiley says:

    Volcano !

    Mount Agung Eruption : Indonesia Issues Highest Aviation Warning

    Nov 26, 2017

    this volcano eruption occurred Saturday evening on Bali island, Indonesia, for the second time in one week.

    all flights to Bali from Australia, The Netherlands and Malaysia have been cancelled and re-routed.

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  13. nwtex says:

    What a special moment for the little guy to share with his very important AND busy mommie……looking on at AF1 carrying the President of the USA!!!!! It gives me chills…don’t know why….it just does xo. What a wonderful memory to visit forever.

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  14. Fits of giggles 😂🤣😂

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  16. nwtex says:


    Ummm….better in @presssec office than his 😉 just sayin’

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  17. Dora says:

    Zwei Reiter am Strand (Two Riders on the Beach) by Max Liebermann (1901)

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    • amwick says:

      Here in Myrtle Beach it is very common to see groups of riders on the beach. The state park has a special parking lot and access for horses. (only during the off season)

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    • georgiafl says:

      I love this painting! The color, composition, sense of movement, everything about this is splendid.

      You can smell the sea, feel the wind, hear the horses whinny, their hooves thud in the sand, the conversation between the men….

      Marvelous – a masterwork!!!

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  18. Dora says:

    This liberal nonsense is even effecting the church.

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    • Let’s see them try that gender neutral crap with Mohammed!

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    • georgiafl says:

      Episcopalian, Methodist extreme liberal women clergy have been forcing this here have been doing this for at least 25 years. It’s disgusting the man hate they harbor in their hearts. They even refuse to refer to GOD the Father and GOD the Son.

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      • piper567 says:

        If any of you are interested in the pernicious direction of these European “churches”, (Norway and Denmark are also getting on this ride), gatestoneinstitute has a good article, Reforming the Swedish Church, which goes into a bit of detail.
        And you would be correct, georgia, these travesties are being led by women.
        These individuals who are choosing to remold the church in the likeness of Man will one day pay a Huge Price for their error, yet I am pleased they are being so pubic regarding their Cosmic Treason against our Creator God.
        Its a bit of History that the Bible foresees, and imo, the current Pope is rather setting the stage for these public announcements of self-grandeur…These people are simply the latest iteration of Man usurping the role of God: this is what it looks like in our Age.

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        • adombom says:

          All these little piglets will end up as burnt bacon after their judgement.


        • georgiafl says:

          Yes to all. Of course, there are men enacting heresy/apostasy too. I went round and round over the ‘gay bishop’ issue for a long time, and the child predator priest in the RCC as well. Heart breaking stuff.


          • piper567 says:

            true, Georgia…but these women are in Leadership in these churches!
            this is an abomination of the First Magnitude.
            Vernon McGee once said he knew some women had a gift or preaching, but he thought the only reason they should preach is when men were not available.
            I think this has happened in these churches, but that only INCREASES their obligation to Preach the Gospel.
            They will rue the Day they answer for their treachery to God Almighty.

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    • nwtex says:

      From the article–>

      EDITOR’S NOTE: In case you haven’t noticed, the Bible is not inclusive. Rather, it is exclusive. God has recorded His thoughts and opinions for all mankind to read, and if you don’t like it, too bad. God has placed salvation in His only begotten Son, Jesus, and if that offends you or your religion, God is not the least bit concerned. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are revealed as masculine and referred to as ‘He”. To deny that is to do the work of Antichrist and pervert the Scripture. God, who created gender division, is quite specific. He surely is.

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      • piper567 says:

        I grew up listening to Vernon McGee, and he was fond of pointing out:
        If you disagree with God, guess which one of you is wrong?


        • Blacksmith8 says:

          That right there is wisdom


        • JohnnyII says:

          You can listen locally. 91.7 in my truck 🙂

          Find when Dr. McGee’s Thru the Bible and Sunday Sermon programs are aired on a station in your area. To find releases of our Questions & Answers program, please check with your local radio station.

          You can also hear ​us nationally on Family Talk 131 on SiriusXM Radio, weekdays at 10:30 PM (EST)


          • piper567 says:

            Johnny!! this means we are neighbors! (My Mother was listening to McGee when Iwas just a tyke.)
            I get BBN on 91.7 too…
            For those who like classic hymns and music of, shall we say, a certain vintage, The Bible Broadcasting Network’s website tells of local stations which carry it…
            They have something or everybody, including the kids.
            Solid Bible teaching.
            PLUS, beginning December 1st, ALL of their music is Christmas music, 24/7.


    • duchess01 says:

      Galatians 6:7
      “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”

      King James Version (KJV)

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    • pacnwbel says:

      Then there is no longer reason for that church to exist


  19. nwtex says:

    Disturbing. What an awful way to exist.

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  20. getfitnow says:

    FTA – This week, Baltimore Police Commissioner Kevin Davis dismissed all administrative charges against Alicia White, the last officer facing discipline in the Freddie Gray case. Thus, all six officers who were accused of wrongdoing in connection with Gray’s death will keep their jobs.

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  21. Dora says:

    Western Christianity in denial about radical Islam’

    First Eastern Christianity was destroyed. Now it’s Europe’s turn, according to an Italian author.

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  22. nwtex says:

    Good on you Piers. Refreshing to hear a rational voice! Tired of listening to ppl who simply jump in and follow the crowd–pack mentality. This deal has such potential to get very ugly.

    For God’s sake let boys be boys, and girls be girls, and stop this charge to turn them all into ‘non-binary, gender fluid creatures of indeterminate sexuality’
    22 November 2017

    I’m a man.

    There, I’ve said it. At the risk of offending the world’s increasing army of hypersensitive PC-crazed snowflakes, I am proudly and unapologetically identifying as a male.

    I realise that for some people, this admission alone is currently tantamount to having me fired, arrested and possibly publicly executed.

    Think I’m being ridiculous?

    Think again.

    Last night, popular US Teen Vogue writer Emily Lindin tweeted this to her 22,000 followers: ‘Here’s an unpopular opinion. I’m not actually at all concerned about innocent men losing their jobs over false sexual assault/harassment allegations.’

    So yes, for some people like Ms Lindin, just being a man right now is enough to warrant a career and life being wrongly destroyed.

    She is the very worst kind of radical feminist, the kind that hates men so much it blinds her even to basic fairness and justice.

    Yet Ms Lindin’s tweet wasn’t even the most outrageous gender-related thing I read today

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  23. Dora says:

    No, I didn’t see it when it came out. I did watch it on TV a few times though and thought it was a great movie.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      This year I got to see this all the way through for the first time in a local theater that was built in the 20’s or 30’s. And, I was surprised to realize I had never seen the whole movie before, just pieces. But, it was extra special because I know that movie was shown in that theater when it first came out.

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    • pacnwbel says:

      Casablanca, all time #1 movie.


  24. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
    Ephesians 4:6 (KJV)

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  25. duchess01 says:

    Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!

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  26. Dora says:

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  27. nwtex says:

    Colors 😍

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  28. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  29. nwtex says:

    I do not like the upside down Christmas Tree idea at all! I hope they disappear.

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  30. nwtex says:

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  31. Joke of the Day:

    Stupid people suffer because they do not realize the value of intelligence, while intelligent people just as often suffer because they fail to realize the strength and prevalence of stupidity.

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  32. CoffeeBreak says:

    Good Morning, Everyone!

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  33. Good morning Treepers!

    I just wanted to share something I have been working on for a little while – it’s called Math Match. It’s my first ever published mobile app and I would really appreciate it if any Android users could check it out and let me know what you think:

    It’s been out for just a few days so there may still be some bugs so if you encounter any problems please let me know,

    PS:There’s a tribute to the Treehouse in the in-game store dedicated to SD and all of you who make this the best place on the Internet! 🙂

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  34. Dora says:

    Another JFK file and more proof that Oswald didn’t act alone.


    Jack Ruby told an FBI informant to ‘watch the fireworks’ just hours before Kennedy’s assassination, newly-released JFK Files reveal
    Jack Ruby told an FBI informant to ‘watch the fireworks’ just hours before JFK was killed in 1963
    Two days later Ruby shot dead JFK’s killer Lee Harvey Oswald outside a jail


    • smiley says:

      who killed Officer JD Tippit ?

      Jim Garrison, for one, firmly believes it was not Oswald.


      • smiley says:

        oops…that should read : believed.


      • Dora says:

        I don’t think it was either.


      • wondering999 says:

        For whatever reason I was not aware of Tippett. This website says he was killed by Oswald:
        As usual, Wiki is super-detailed:
        “Some …theorists have alleged that the murder of Officer Tippit was part of a conspiracy to kill President Kennedy. Implying that two murders could not have happened so closely together by coincidence, his killing is often referred to as the “Rosetta Stone” to the solution of the Kennedy assassination by critics of the official findings.[40][41] Some critics dispute that Oswald shot Tippit, arguing that the physical evidence and witness testimony do not support that conclusion.[42] Other critics state that Tippit himself was a conspirator, tasked to kill Oswald by organized crime or right-wing politicians in order to cover up the search for other assassins.[42][43]”


  35. Wisconsam says:

    All Hail the Power of Jesus’ Name

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  36. duchess01 says:

    Keb ‘mo’ – Hand It Over

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  38. duchess01 says:

    Why did Facebook investor Peter Thiel really sell three-quarters of his remaining stake?

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  39. oldiadguy says:

    Russia’s Christian Renaissance Explains her Current World Role

    “In trying to explain Russian culture, Russians may direct the inquiring foreigner to their literature. And in this literature one will soon be met with the recurring theme of the Russian soul, an idea ultimately revealing its source to be that of Eastern Orthodox Christianity. It is essentially a theme that man does not live by bread alone. And the type of man who understands this will be a particular being in communion with the universal, a temporal being aware of eternity, a part that knows the whole. His purpose in life will be a pilgrim’s progress towards unity with God.”

    “Winston Churchill, in describing Russia, suggested it was a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.”

    “So then by listening to Tchaikovsky’s Liturgy of St John Chrysostom, for example, one may begin to unwrap the mystery and come to explain the riddle. One may understand the enigma. Then looking through the glass less darkly, one may begin to understand one’s soul.”

    Tchaikovsky – Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, Op. 41

    Take Care and God Bless

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  40. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    And, Lord, if it is your will, we pray that Judge Roy Moore will win his bid for the Senate.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  41. Katherine McCoun says:

    Making our Christmas card montage picture and Really want to include a picture of our son and our cardboard President Trump at a Trump rally this spring but leaving it off as I want peace and goodwill this Christmas with the few on our list who are liberal.

    Same with the Christmas letter. Our job in the good things that are happening and are frustration with congress etc. as well as other political aspects of our life like local involvement ought to have a paragraph in our Christmas letter. But, like with our photo, why ruffle feathers?

    For 8 yrs we dealt with our liberal relatives and their happiness with every move Obama made but it seems conservatives are made of sterner stuff and we handle that sort of thing without melting into a puddle and whimpering. For peace and joy, we will leave these things out even though they play a big role in our lives. Dems, even my relatives, are much too fragile, bless their hearts.

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  42. anthonydog says:

    Center for Security Policy | Center Occasional Paper Exposes a Perfect Storm of Threat By: Mary Fanning and Alan Jones

    The next time you watch a freight train pass by a railroad crossing, or hear the evocative sounds of the mournful horns of trains passing in the night or railroad crossing warning bells as flatbed rail cars double-stacked with cargo containers roll by, or see a flatbed semi-truck hauling a cargo container down the highway, keep in mind that President Barack Hussein Obama and his administration awarded Saddam Hussein’s rogue nuclear mastermind access to Florida’s Port Canaveral cargo container terminal, a U.S. port of entry that gives Russia and states of its choice unfettered access to the entire United States.

    This paper will explore how several seemingly disparate factors have joined together in a confluence of acute danger, creating a perfect storm that directly threatens United States (U.S.) national security.
    These factors include: (i) the placement of Dr. Jafar and Gulftainer inside the wire at Port Canaveral with a 35-year container terminal lease through a secret operation known as ‘Project Pelican’; (ii) the development, production, and expansion of sales of Russia’s Club-K container missile launch system; (iii) the Jafars’ and Gulftainer’s joint venture with Russia’s state-owned Rostec, which owns 100% of the shares of Rosoboronexport, the exporter of the Club-K system; (iv) Dr. Jafar’s miniaturized nuclear weapon, known as the ‘Arab bomb’ or ‘Beach Ball’; (v) the Jafar family’s long-term relationship with Russia and the KGB/SVR and GRU intelligence services revolving around nuclear, chemical, and biological WMD; (vi) Dr. Jafar’s collaboration with North Korea on weapons delivery systems; and (vii) the similarities between Dr. Jafar’s ‘Beach Ball’ and the miniaturized nuclear weapon model seen with Kim Jung-un.

    In December 2016, we wrote “What Could Possibly Go Wrong, which was published as an Occasional Paper by the Center for Security Policy (CSP).” Subsequently, we learned that several things have already gone wrong and could likely get worse. The advent of a new advanced weapon system designed and built by Russia, and the involvement of hostile foreign governments closely tied to the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction (WMD) experts who leased Port Canaveral’s container terminal, have now made the already dire national security situation at Port Canaveral exponentially more dangerous. The situation has reached critical mass.

    All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we
    must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. – Sun Tzu

    Center for Security Policy | Center Occasional Paper Exposes a Perfect Storm of Threat…/center-occasiona…/
    2 November 2017For information contact: Clare Lopez | 202-719-2423


    (Washington, DC): A new Center for Security Policy Occasional Paper being released today picks up where our earlier December 2016 paper, “What Could Possibly Go Wrong?” left off. Additional research by the dogged and fearless team of Alan Jones and Mary Fanning now reveals exactly what could go wrong, with potentially catastrophic consequences for U.S. national security.

    The original Occasional Paper broke the news that the family of Iraqi nuclear physicist Dr. Jafar Dhia Jafar – known as Saddam Hussein’s nuclear bombmaker – along with the Emir of Sharjah, United Arab Emirates (UAE), had been awarded a 35-year lease for cargo container operations at Port Canaveral, Florida after two years of secret talks with the Obama administration. Jones and Fanning continued their research over the following months and now present their updated and even more alarming findings with this new report: “Perfect Storm: Project Pelican’s Gulftainer, Russia’s Club-K, KGB’s Primakov, North Korea, and the Architects of the Islamic Bloc and the Iran Nuclear Deal.”
    There is a U.S. government inter-agency review board called the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) whose responsibility is to conduct a thorough review of any commercial acquisition of U.S. infrastructure or property by a foreign entity that may have national security implications. Unfortunately, during a five-year period from 2009-2014, the CFIUS staff chairperson was a Pakistani ex-patriate named Aimen Nabi Mir, who has direct connections to both the Pakistani intelligence service and the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood. As we now know, it was during this timeframe that both the Gulftainer lease and the Uranium One deal were permitted to go forward by CFIUS.

    Thanks to the remarkable investigative efforts of Mr. Jones and Ms. Fanning, it has now come to light that the implications of the CFIUS failure appropriately to review the Port Canaveral Gulftainer deal go far beyond original concerns about this Middle East-based ports company acquiring such strategic access to all the container operations at this key port along Florida’s Atlantic coast. Indeed, Port Canaveral is near a number of important U.S. facilities—including the Navy’s East Coast ballistic missile submarine base, two U.S. Air Force Space Command bases and NASA’s Kennedy Space Center. Additionally, Port Canaveral and its container facilities are connected directly to rail and road lines that provide ready transportation access to the entire country.

    “The Perfect Storm: Project Pelican’s Gulftainer, Russia’s Club-K, KGB’s Primakov, North Korea, and the Architects of the Islamic Bloc and the Iran Nuclear Deal” now reveals that the danger to U.S. national security may be exponentially more critical. Dr. Jafar Dhia Jafar worked closely with the Russians on Iraq’s full range of Weapons of Mass Destruction programs, including the nuclear one. He succeeded in designing a miniaturized nuclear warhead similar to the model that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un posed with earlier in 2017. Worse yet, Gulftainer, the Iraqi-UAE company that was allowed to obtain the Port Canaveral container facility lease, has entered into a joint venture with the Russian state-owned firm which owns 100% of the shares of Rosoboronexport, the exporter of the Club-K system.

    The Club-K is a cruise missile launch system concealed in a container whose external appearance looks identical to standard ISO intermodal commercial cargo shipping containers. Inside each Club-K container, however, are four missiles which can carry biological, chemical, conventional, Electro-Magnetic Pulse (EMP), or nuclear warheads. The genius of the Club-K system is its ability to evade detection among the millions of shipping containers carried on ships, trains, and trucks all over the world, including inside the U.S. Now, the Russian maker of the Club-K has partnered with the Iraqi-UAE company headed by the nuclear mastermind who designed a nuclear warhead specifically to fit on the nosecone of the Club-K cruise missile. Also, Ras al-Khaimah (RAK), one of the seven UAE emirates, runs a shipping company in partnership with Iran, which essentially controls RAK’s main shipping port. And a broken and possibly corrupt CFIUS just gave them all access to a 35-year lease on the container facilities at one of America’s most critical ports.

    A Perfect Storm, indeed.

    The Center for Security Policy presents this extremely important Occasional Paper in hopes that those with responsibility to protect U.S. national security will awaken—and quickly—to the mortal peril this confluence of threats poses to our country.
    In unveiling the Center’s new Occasional Paper, its president, Frank J. Gaffney, observed:

    “This transaction is such an obvious threat to U.S. national security that it must be suspended, if not canceled outright, pending a fresh evaluation of its merits, a rigorous re-evaluation of the CFIUS decision-making process that allowed it to be approved, and an informed and thorough debate on Capitol Hill.”

    “The Perfect Storm” is available for free in PDF format below


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