TPP Economics, NAFTA, The APEC Summit, Mexico, Canada and Trump…

Apologies in advance to our conservative Canadian friends; but the explainer here is regarding America-First trade and economics against the backdrop of the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal, Canada and Mexico’s alignment therein, the APEC Summit and rainbow socks.

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Justin from Canada

Here’s why Canada and Mexico signing up to TPP is great news for the U.S., and couldn’t come at a better time for NAFTA round #5 on November 17th.  We don’t want TPP to collapse, because TPP ties the hands of Canada and Mexico to elements of trade that are based on collective interests. Their joining TPP provides the U.S. leverage in NAFTA.

Remember, Vietnam is exactly 12 hours ahead of U.S. Eastern time zone.  At 7:450pm last evening in Vietnam (local time), at the last minute, Rainbow Socks backed out of the signing the TPP framework (explained here).  Twelve hours later, at 7:20am (local), the AP reported the agreement was “back on” with “a compromise”:

DANANG, Vietnam (AP) — The Latest on the summit of 21 Pacific Rim economies in Vietnam (all times local): 7:20 a.m. – Trade ministers say they have reached a basic agreement on a Pacific Rim trade pact without the United States.

A statement issued in the early hours Saturday says an accord was reached on “core elements” of the 11-member Trans-Pacific Partnership, a deal abandoned by President Donald Trump after he took office. (more)

Rainbow Socks tweets out his appreciation for Japanese PM Sinzo Abe.  In essence, beyond the language, Prime Minister Abe just saved political face for Rainbow Socks.

Prime Minister Abe said he also had concerns for the agreement, even though he was one of the 10 foreign heads-of-state ready to sign the accord last night.  Just like Businessman Donald Trump, Businessman Shinzo Abe knows how to create leverage.  His maneuver to save face of Justin from Canada creates leverage.  BFF’s Trump and Abe are masters of the leverage universe… Rainbow Socks, not-so-much.

The APEC CEO Summit is all about economics and trade with a smattering of national security etc. mixed in.  The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is about their collective assembly and how they will agree to share the “trade and economic wealth”.

President Trump, via team USA, isn’t interested in collective wealth sharing agreements; there’s no upside benefit to the U.S. in such matters.  As such there was really no reason, based on the primary purpose of the summit, for President Trump to attend.  However, President Trump wanted to tell the collective assembly face-to-face what the U.S. policy on trade means.  That’s why he was so direct, deliberate and unapologetic last night as he laid out the terms and U.S. position.

Additionally, Trump talked about North Korea with the Summit participants, but you’ll note he did so only at a high level.  Trump only needs the APEC group to generally just agree with the USA/China/Japan/S-Korea action regarding the DPRK, they don’t need to do anything extra. Ergo there’s no sense in expending energy on them.  The real solution to N-Korea is within China.

President Xi Jinping is 90% of the Trump strategy because Xi can solve the problem unilaterally. [South Korea and Japan hold lesser influence and the rest of the APEC summit participants combined only amass 1% on the DPRK importance scale.]

Back to trade.  You’ll note that China (Xi Jinping) also doesn’t seem to be too involved in the details of the APEC summit.  The reason is the same as Trump, China’s not in TPP and when/if they ever decide to enter the backdoor to TPP (they’ll wait til it’s all assembled and finalized to look at it), China will demand terms that the rest of the participants will just have to deal with.  So China, along with Russia, is also in “just watching” mode.

However, Rainbow Socks and Mexico’s President Enrique Peña Nieto have made their decision to attach their economies to TPP.  This means they will agree to binding rules on disagreements, give up their own court system for trade disputes, agree to manufacturing employment laws that benefit Asia and in a general sense screw themselves royally.  TPP is not about just trade, it’s actually a legal binding to all kinds of intrusive measures.

By Mexico and Canada signing on to TPP they automatically put their own manufacturing and commerce systems into a compliance model that requires them to adhere to the TPP mandates on how stuff is made.

This is where it gets important.  This means two-thirds of the NAFTA participants, Mexico and Canada, are signing up to restrictive trade rules on their own free market systems.  Their companies will have to adhere to Asia and the collective TPP policy in their economic sectors, manufacturing, e-commerce, as well as finance laws and employment.

The United States is not participating in the multilateral TPP boondoggle.  So when the U.S. is negotiating NAFTA, team USA can insist on manufacturing and trade terms that are entirely outside the framework of TPP.

The makes massive leverage for the U.S. because the details can force Rainbow Socks and Pena Nieto to operate dual systems of manufacturing in various trade sectors. One system TPP compliant, and the second NAFTA compliant.

Obviously, it would be ridiculous for CanaMex to attempt to operate under two costly systems of trade that might be directly in opposition to each other; so there’s no way they could ever agree to such conditions.

Accepting this reality, it makes you wonder if Team USA didn’t intentionally delay NAFTA renegotiations until CanaMex signed up to TPP.   Remember: “killers”.

USTR Lighthizer begins Round #5 NAFTA talks on November 17th.  This is going to be very telling because Round #4 ended with massive distance between the parties.

USTR […]  Frankly, I am surprised and disappointed by the resistance to change from our negotiating partners on both fronts. We have made some headway on the first objective, but even here we have sometimes seen a refusal to accept what is clearly the best text available in spite of the countries having agreed to it in the past.

In certain cases, partners who agree to TPP have actually rejected its text here. I would have thought by now we could have cleared chapters dealing with digital trade, telecommunications, anticorruption, and several sectoral annexes, for example.

As difficult as this has been, we have seen no indication that our partners are willing to make any changes that will result in a rebalancing and a reduction in these huge trade deficits. Now I understand that after many years of one-sided benefits, their companies have become reliant on special preferences and not just comparative advantage. Countries are reluctant to give up unfair advantage.  (read more)

With Canada and Mexico signing up to TPP, Lighthizer walks into Round #5 with incredible leverage.   Either Canada and Mexico take the knee, or the U.S. just cancels NAFTA and deals with each nation individually.  Either way, it’s good for team USA.

The likely scenario is NAFTA is dissolved.  Trump, Ross and Lighthizer begin constructing trade deals that are America-First, and U.S. Companies are free to engage in use of the unregulated operational leverage Team U.S.A. has provided.

Meanwhile, regardless of TPP, Japanese PM Shinzo Abe is already holding a golden ticket to the U.S. Market provided by Trump.

[Kaizen, Edwards Deming]

The same offer appears on the horizon for South Korea’s Moon Jae-In, if he gets into compliance with the Trump security/trade agenda.

India’s Prime Minister Modi is looking good as the Indo-Pacific plans outlined by the administration also appear to show that Modi has the golden ticket opportunity; The goal is to open India markets to U.S. exports and have Modi drop the excessive tariffs currently in place.  Negotiations ongoing…

That leaves Chinese President Xi Jinping.  If, BIG IF, President Xi can convince Beijing to allow him to act on Little Rocket Man, well, it won’t exactly be a golden ticket -because they’ve over used (exploited) the prior ticket- but it’ll be much better than the alternative.

POTUS Trump would like nothing more than to return the three air carrier groups away from DPRK posture and provide Shinzo Abe and Moon Jae-in the defense material to take care of themselves, with the U.S. partnership acting as their national security insurance policy.

There’s a great deal of taxpayer value is not spending on the DPRK issue; those saved dollars can be shifted to provide incentives, the underlying trade-ticket value, for China.

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186 Responses to TPP Economics, NAFTA, The APEC Summit, Mexico, Canada and Trump…

  1. WhistlingPast says:

    Who is “this Just In” you keep referring to?

    Liked by 2 people

  2. kittytrump84 says:

    What is Justin Trudeau/Castro’s pronoun? Anybody know?

    Liked by 3 people

  3. how in the F can anyone take that idiot seriously when he wears socks like that?!?

    Liked by 12 people

  4. So, in other words…
    Canada is screwed because they have their own nightmare version of “Obummer” and thus it’s “leadership” will always suffer from inverted cranial rectalnitis.
    Sad…..really sad.

    Liked by 20 people

  5. TreeClimber says:

    In other words, not only do they have enough rope to hang themselves, we’re watching them make the noose and in a week we’ll pull the lever for the door?

    Liked by 13 people

  6. Publius2016 says:

    Yes, they create leverage…of course the fools I. comhgress working with CoC try to mess it up with corporate tax relief phase in and trying to stop Moore

    Liked by 3 people

    • BobBoxBody says:

      Yeah but between the Clinton Foundation being shut down and Saudi terrorist money no longer being sent to their coffers, the swamp creatures are running out of money, resources, and leverage to keep getting their way. They’re on life support and Trump is pulling the plug. In the meantime Trump does what he can to help us out while the scumbags whither up and die.

      Liked by 11 people

  7. Bitcoin & Stock Market Timing says:

    Conservative Canadians, please move to the USA, we need u here!!!

    Liked by 15 people

    • dekester says:

      Many of us already own property in the U.S. Have bank accounts there, and mail boxes just across the U.S. border.

      I can think of at least five people that I know personally, and whose homes I have been in.

      That own property in places like Arizona, California, Hawaii and Washington State.

      Three are big PDJT supporters, the other two are successful business folks. Conservative for sure and likely PDJT supporters.

      Don’t hold me to this, but I believe something like 80% of the Canadian population live within Fifty miles of the U.S. border.

      Canada is living in the land of make believe. If your President chooses he will crush us. I think though he would rather work with Canada.

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    • John Good says:

      I tried back in 97′ & 98′ while I was in Phoenix for 23 months. I would go to the local INS office about twice a month, to try & get in legally & came to the conclusion that the only way I was going to get in was to marry an American woman. I was 20 yrs. younger & I was treating my time down there as “vacation party-time” & I now wish that I had developed a better relationship with this 25 yr. old woman who was “hot to trot” about me, but her best friend thought that I was too irresponsible & talked her out of it.

      Thank You Sundance for the “real-skinny” on this. Here is what the local news at 6 pm said about this. I am so sick of all the Trump bashing & the kiss-as* of Justin Trudeau that the lying MSM up here in Canada is doing on a daily basis. If anyone there wants a real picture of what goes on up here, go to the Rebel Media website or maybe the Toronto Sun, but I have not found anything else up here that is honest.

      http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/11-pacific-rim-countries-reach-basic-trade-deal-without-u-s-1.3671847

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      • Maxi Dean says:

        All the mainstream media in Canada leans left.

        Liked by 2 people

      • KittyKat says:

        Garth Turner’s blog about investing and real estate, The Greater Fool, has a good mix of pro Trump and anti Trump followers. Garth is a conservative, was for short time finance minister in Stephen Harper’s government, but was fired. He’s not a Trump supporter but he’s not anti American, and he can’t stand T2. He’s quite good at explaining the state of the Canadian economy, real estate issues, and the havoc being created by the Liberal government.

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      • indiamaria2020 says:

        Check with Texas Senator, ToxicTed Cruz. Not only did he figure out how to stay illegally in the U.S., he became a Senator, and ran for President as the only “true” Constitutional CON-servative. Just go into the INS office, tell them your mother and father are Canadian citizens, that you were born in Canada, and therefore you are a “Natural Born U.S. Citizen”. Worked for Canadian Ted !

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        • PaulInCO says:

          Cruz’s mother was a natural born US citizen at the time of this birth. Under US law, that makes Ted a natural born US citizen regardless of where he was born.

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          • cozette says:

            You are mistaken. Natural born is a category of citizenship that is only relevant if you are seeking to serve as POTUS. You earn it by having both kinds of citizenship at birth; citizenship via soil AND blood. That means you were born here AND one of your parents was a citizen at the time of your birth. Clearly Ted, being born in Canada, is not a natural born citizen although if his mom had retained her citizenship, which there is some doubt about, he may have been with a regular American citizenship. Again, there are two ways to be born a citizen; to be born here and to be born to an American citizen. Natural born citizenship means you had citizenship both ways at birth.

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      • Orygun says:

        The Rebel Media site is very good. They do a great job of reporting news without the constant spin. I always check them out on utube.

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      • Just as Barack Obama has been a “saving grace” for Jimma Carter, Sweden is the same for Canada- cheer up!

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    • wrd9 says:

      About this as a trade deal. Canada gets 100 US based illegals or liberals for every Canadian conservative.

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  8. Maquis says:

    Rock On, President Trump! Rock on!

    Liked by 6 people

  9. bkrg2 says:

    This TPP fiasco is the death blow to NAFTA. Well done Wolverines!
    The upside opportunities for MAGA are so high right now between Saudi/ME, China/Asia, India/Indo-Pacific, and CanMex. Time to get our trade back towards balance and start cranking up the factories!

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    • Founding Fathers Fan says:

      We wouldn’t even have TPP if Teddy Cruz hadn’t “compromised” with the dems and provided the critical 60th vote to end the filibuster and allow TPP to advance to the Senate floor so he could vote against it and proclaim himself a conservative. Cruz is a sleazy rat politician.

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      • kroesus says:

        ….and most likely NOT a US citizen

        Liked by 2 people

        • Grandma Covfefe says:

          I’m with you there, too.

          Liked by 2 people

        • Homesteader says:

          That makes TWO illegal presidential candidates. Within a few short years. Make proof of lawful citizenship a mandate in running for ANY elected office, Mr. President. Oh. And make it a criminal offense to try to defraud the People. Punishable by life in prison. No parole. Make it retroactive to twenty years.

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      • Grandma Covfefe says:

        I agree, never never forget what Criz did and lied about it. When we went to Trump rally in Costa Mesa, Calif, Stephen Miller came out and told us the real story of what Cruz did and we never forgot that

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        • maiingankwe says:

          And here I thought I had watched every Trump rally. I don’t remember Stephen Miller talking about Cruz. The only thing I can think of is they never videotaped that part. Do you remember the date so I can look it up. Far easier than asking you to tell us everything Miller said.

          I’m just simply amazed at the number of people who now think Cruz has changed his spots. It’s like they’re back to worshiping him and claiming what a great supporter he is of our President. My goodness, it wasn’t that long ago when he refused to speak at the Republican convention. The saying, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, seems to be a worthy example in regards to Cruz.

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          • woodstuff says:

            Cruz did speak at the Republican convention, but didn’t endorse our Lion. I am fairly sure, but I could be mistaken.

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            • Jim in TN says:

              Most definitely. Took up that great offer, and made himself look horrible.

              Funny how our President sees things differently than most others, and proves himself right each time. Most would never have risked giving that honor to their enemy without writing the speech for him. Controlling to present a moment of party unity. Trump realized that letting Cruz be Cruz would unite the party against Cruz’s betrayal of Trump and the party Cruz was expected to unite.

              In short, Trump gave Cruz a win-win moment knowing Cruz could not stand helping Trump and would turn it into a Cruz loses Trump wins moment. Trump wins no matter what. His enemies are given the chance to win with him, or lose opposing him.

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            • maiingankwe says:

              You’re right, and it was a not so nice one.

              What the heck is happening to my memory? I swear I’m not that old, and I seem to be making all of these small but obvious mistakes!

              So sorry and thank you for pointing it out. 😊
              Be well,
              Ma’iingankwe

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          • indiamaria2020 says:

            So, so RIGHT.

            Liked by 1 person

          • TheWanderingStar says:

            Cruz is such a suck up do nothing. In my state he fits the saying, “All hat, no cattle.”.

            If Texans were given a choice, he be sent packing along with John “Establishment” Cornyn.

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      • woodstuff says:

        I donated to the Cruz campaign for TX senator. Wish I had my money back.

        Liked by 2 people

      • indiamaria2020 says:

        BUT…..though both his parents were Canadian Citizens, and he was born in Canada, HE INSISTED he was a “Natural Born U.S. Citizen” and therefore eligible to be a U.S. Senator and POTUS. HE said it is “settled law.”

        He also proclaimed that he was the only true “CONstitutional CON-servative” in the Presidential race, stating that the 14 Amendment REQUIRED Anchor Baby-ism. On this basis, he proclaimed that this qualified him to be SCOTUS.

        Real chutzpah, that one. Even had the toenails to call McConnell a “LIAR”, while taking the Senate Leader’s $$$ for his campaign. And this is the fella that {{{{{{ Bannon }}}}}} went all in for. (Psst — {{{{ Bannon }}}} also supported passage of TPP)…..Oh those wacky “CON-servtives” and their “Muh-Principles” !!

        Looks like Toxic Ted’s wife Heidi will not realize her and The Bushes dream of The North American Union (NAU) …… But Canada will always have TPP.

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  10. CountryclassVulgarian says:

    Mr. President! Mr. President! I can’t ….

    NAH!!!!

    #Winning!

    Liked by 11 people

  11. bsdetector4u says:

    I truly feel sorry for everyone in Canada that didn’t elect him.

    Liked by 10 people

  12. mopar2016 says:

    I hope that president Trump cancels NAFTA.
    The Canadians want to form a “gender issues” committee as a part of NAFTA negotiations.
    They want to add a lot of global warming nonsense, and they don’t like our “buy American” slogan.
    http://reason.com/blog/2017/08/15/free-trade-must-come-with-social-justice

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  13. Sentient says:

    When I heard he didn’t want to join TPP, I was confused, thinking he might deserve a modicum of respect. I’d obviously misunderstood. Now things are back to normal: Canada’s PM is a dickless wonder.

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  14. bsdetector4u says:

    A fool with the most appalling socks ever. He’s so avant-garde in his own mind anyway.

    Liked by 6 people

  15. NJF says:

    Truly epic. I’m about to start using the_donald’s moniker, “God Emperor”

    We are truly witnessing history.

    Liked by 5 people

  16. bulwarker says:

    STOP CALLING IT TPP! DIDNT YOU HEAR THEY ALREADY REBRANDED IT!!! lolol

    “The name of the agreement has also been changed from TPP to CPTPP – the comprehensive progressive TPP.”
    and
    “There was no plan at this stage for the CPTPP leaders to meet again at Apec.”
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/98790099/transpacific-partnership-11-trade-ministers-reach-deal-to-keep-deal-alive

    They didn’t ink the deal and instead delayed it further. But hey, its got a cool new name to shed the bad joo-joo that was TPP

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  17. Grandma Covfefe says:

    Regarding the ‘Justin with the pink socks’ photo Sundance posted at the top of this article:

    Anyone looking at the photo would think he was an amateur playwright with self-importance air. It is so hard for me to believe that he is actually the Prime Minister of Canada!?!

    Liked by 6 people

    • bsdetector4u says:

      The picture that accompanies his tweet says it all. Everyone in the picture except Justin is thinking to himself, “What an effing moroon. Happy days are here again”

      Liked by 5 people

  18. A2 says:

    I posted a comment months ago about a rumour that was circulating in a Japanese tabloid about a leaked conversation Pres Abe had essentially saying that the DPRK situation would be solved by Christmas. Well that rumour now has put on a pair of socks (couldn’t resist).

    “North Korea is likely to engage in unofficial, multilateral talks that include the US next month, according to a Northeast Asia policy specialist.
    North Korean officials are looking for more clarity about the US government’s willingness to engage in formal dialogue and under what terms, Ralph Cossa, president of Pacific Forum CSIS and former special assistant to the head of US Pacific Command, told the South China Morning Post.
    “There’s going to be a [Council for Security Cooperation in the Asia Pacific] general conference in December and they’ve been invited and we think they’re going to come,” Cossa said. “We’re trying to use track II to educate and push track I forward.”

    Let’s see if we can pull pup those socks and let Rocketboy grab his****.

    http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2119293/us-and-north-korea-track-meet-unofficial-talks-despite

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  19. What a wonderful time to be an American.

    May God bless and protect President Trump.

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  20. wheatietoo says:

    The thing is…TPP is doomed to fail.

    Who is going to enforce it?
    In no time, there will be squabbles and finger-pointing with various members pointing to each other, saying: “They’re breaking the rules!”

    Do they really think that these low-wages countries are going to raise their wages & improve working conditions?
    Allow collective bargaining and unionization?
    This would decrease their attractiveness to multi-national corporations to be located in their countries…so I don’t see them doing it.

    And then there are the ‘environmental regulations’…lotsa luck enforcing those.
    These would also decrease the attractiveness to multi-nationals.
    There will be mass cheating on this one too.

    I’m so glad that our President got us out of this dreadful treaty.
    It’s going to fail and be a source of animosity between the countries that are signing up for it.

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    • Gil says:

      I dont care being squished in between 2 of them. Our southern wall needs to be massive and built before Mexico’s economy tanks.

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    • kroesus says:

      they do not have to raise wages,,,,part of the old TPP construct allowed for the “free migration of labor across international boundaries”….they will just export their low wage earners to higher wage countries LEGALLY…..kind of like Mexico has been doing to us illegally

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  21. HowieRosen_ESQ says:

    Nice socks… if you’re 8 years old.

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  22. Thecleaner says:

    I am interested in the America First trade philosophy outside of strictly trade balance considerations.
    How does the US value its ability to get secure and reliable supplies of strategic metals, minerals and commodoties from up to now friendly and reliable trading partners such as Australia and Canada, who combined supply vast quantities of gold, nickel, aluminum, copper, uranium and iron ore among many others to the US.
    With the signing of TPP, without the US, combined with less than cordial relations between Ausralia (Turnbull) and Trump, and Canada (baby Justin) and Trump, do these strategic trading relationships survive?
    Markets work both ways, and with Australia and Canada being the dominant suppliers of industrial and strategic commodoties to the TPP signatory countries, and the ability to ramp those exports up, how does the stated leverage work on behalf of the US, and not the other way around?
    In a new trade environment, all the old rules are out the window, and new trade alliances are being formed, so it might be premature to suggest that anybody has the upper hand at this point, unless you assume Australia and Canada are willing to get screwed and continue to supply these viral resources on a favoured basis to the US. In fact, the US might find itself waiting in line behind TPP signatories should the rubber ever meet the road.

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    • WSB says:

      I would tend to think that the TPP would hamstring countries, with more favorable and freer terms offfered by US agreements.

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    • sunnydaze says:

      As long as they get PAID for their ores, metals and minerals, why wouldn’t they sell to the US?

      Do you think they’d screw themselves out of money just on “principle”?

      Not to mention, there would be certain arbitrary rules (think EU and some of the nonsense rules they have) that they would not have to adhere to when they trade with the U.S and China, etc.

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      • Thecleaner says:

        There is only so much of this stuff coming out of the ground. TPP will ensure signatory countries get first dibs.
        TPP will frown on signatories entering into bilateral agreements that threaten that supply chain, or would harm the economy of other signatories.
        The US is not a signatory, therefore nobody who is will be taking any narching orders on supply from the US.
        And yes, in trade wars, you cut countries off from the things they require just to make a point. Isnt that what the US is doing now?

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        • jeans2nd says:

          China is not a signatory either. If/when China does enter CPTPP, those signatory countries will be forced to choose between the U.S., which offers up-front out-in-the-open fair trade and treatment, and China, who manipulates their currency and demands intellectual property rights.

          China is also a naval aggressor. The U.S. has spent decades and decades making certain the seas are open to all. China also imposes strict tariffs on imports, and is still second to the U.S. in economy.

          We are in uncharted trade territory now. The U.S. has over two centuries of dealing fairly with the world. China, not so much.
          Your arguments sound much like Barack Obamas – “Well, how you gonna do that, wave a magic wand?.” Obama chose wrongly as well.
          Never underestimate the power and intellect of the Real Americans. We’ve earned that swagger.

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        • G. Combs says:

          Thecleaner says: “…There is only so much of this stuff coming out of the ground. TPP will ensure signatory countries get first dibs.
          TPP will frown on signatories entering into bilateral agreements that threaten that supply chain, or would harm the economy of other signatories.
          The US is not a signatory, therefore nobody who is will be taking any narching orders on supply from the US…..”
          ROTFLMAO!!!

          Seems Thecleaner is forgeting the other side of the equation. The USA is THE biggest market! Also the only reason China’s GDP is as big as it is, is because the USA BUYS their crapola. Cut off China’s access to the US market and their economy tanks.

          THIS is what President Trump is using as leverage because ALL those countries want access to the US market!

          Just a reminder: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/07/17/multinational-corporations-and-the-export-of-american-wealth/

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        • backwoodsgirl123 says:

          Where did they mine it from?

          The US exports metals and alloys that they mined as well as those that they didn’t mine, but just brought here to process.

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          • Thecleaner says:

            US nickel production is practically non existant.

            NICKEL
            (Data in metric tons of nickel content unless otherwise noted)
            Domestic Production and Use: The United States had only one active nickel mine—the underground Eagle Mine in
            Michigan. The new mine has been producing separate concentrates of chalcopyrite and pentlandite for export to
            Canadian and overseas smelters since April 2014. Three mining projects were in varying stages of development in
            northeastern Minnesota. The principal nickel-consuming State was Pennsylvania, followed by Kentucky, Illinois, New
            York, and North Carolina. Approximately 45% of the primary nickel consumed went into stainless and alloy steel
            production, 43% into nonferrous alloys and superalloys, 7% into electroplating, and 5% into other uses. End uses
            were as follows: transportation and defense, 34%; fabricated metal products, 20%; electrical equipment, 13%;
            chemical and petroleum industries, 7% each; construction, household appliances, and industrial machinery, 5% each;
            and other, 4%. The estimated value of apparent primary consumption was $1.57 billion.

            Mine production Reserves5
            2014 2015e
            United States 4,300 26,500 160,000
            Australia 245,000 234,000 6
            19,000,000
            Brazil 102,000 110,000 10,000,000
            Canada 235,000 240,000 2,900,000
            China 100,000 102,000 3,000,000
            Colombia 81,000 73,000 1,100,000
            Cuba 50,400 57,000 5,500,000
            Guatemala 38,400 50,000 1,800,000
            Indonesia 177,000 170,000 4,500,000
            Madagascar 40,300 49,000 1,600,000
            New Caledonia 178,000 190,000 8,400,000
            Philippines 523,000 530,000 3,100,000
            Russia 239,000 240,000 7,900,000
            South Africa 55,000 53,000 3,700,000
            Other countries 377,000 410,000 6,500,000
            World total (rounded) 2,450,000 2,530,000

            Canada and nickel

            http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/nickel/

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      • Thecleaner says:

        US currently produces about 4 million pounds of uranium annually, and consumes 55 million pounds.
        Top 4 producers.
        1. Kazahistan
        2. Canada
        3. Australia.
        4. Niger

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        • starfcker says:

          Cleaner, we bought Alaska for the minerals. WHY do you think clinton, bush and obongo were so busy declaring vast stretches of the West and Alaska national monuments, wildlife refuges, sacred grounds, etc. Transferring the accumulated wealth of the American middle class to third world countries (often referred to by the term ‘globalization’) requires an all of the above strategy. Energy, ore timber, narcotics, manufactured stuff, all sends our money overseas. If we are blocked from producing something, we have to buy it. That bleeding overseas of your hard earned money is often referred to as a trade deficit. Look at Trump. Get the mines going. Produce our own ore and energy. Then start building stuff. And stop the bleeding.

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          • Thecleaner says:

            Believe me, I get it…whats been going on is that commodity prices have been kept depressed through oversupply….then all manufacturing has been offshored, and these commodoties pour into slave labour nations allowing further depression of consumer prices, in the hopes we dont notice we have no money, because we could actually buy something new from a real store.
            Trying to bring manufacturing home will upset that balance, drive commodity prices up, and the cost of finished products up…at least in the US.
            In order for there not to be a squeeze on commodoties, US production of manufactured goods will need to REPLACE third world production, and not compete with it for the same commodoties, ottherwise inflation will ramp way up, and the US will find no market for their goods outside of the domestic market, which is unsustainable.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Interactive map of mineral resources and mines across the United States

        “The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) Mineral Resources Data System catalogs information about mineral resources around the United States and the world. Using the map tool, users can zoom in to obtain reports and data on past and present mines, mine prospects, and processing plants…

        The image above comes from the overview map showing all mines in the United States. For a more detailed map showing mines and mineral occurrences for individual commodities both in the United States and around the world, along with a wide variety of information on geology, energy and mineral resources, and water, clickHERE

        Given that the Rockies are a ‘young’ mountain chain the USA has a heck of a lot of mineral resources. The problem has been the Marxists have kept us from mining them.

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    • Jim in TN says:

      Where do you hear all this fear-mongering?

      Is there anything in TPP that forces these countries to not trade with USA? Some clause that says that if we don’t do the right Social Justice thing that the world will unite against us like it has against Chubby the Rocket Boy?

      Anything that prevents them from making their own arrangements with the economy that every one wants to get in on?

      When one considers all the non-trade control TPP would place over us, control over Congress and President, because Treaties are given such weight by the constitution, I wonder about the motives behind this not very rational fear campaign that is guiding your thinking.

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      • G. Combs says:

        “…When one considers all the non-trade control TPP would place over us, control over Congress and President, because Treaties are given such weight by the constitution, I wonder about the motives behind this not very rational fear campaign that is guiding your thinking…..”

        THAT is the crap the Dulles boys, a pair of traitors, were spreading and is NOT true!

        Treaties Do Not Supersede the Constitution

        The following qualifies as one of the greatest lies the globalists continue to push upon the American people. That lie is: “Treaties supersede the U.S. Constitution”.
        The Second follow-up lie is this one: “A treaty, once passed, cannot be set aside”.

        HERE ARE THE CLEAR IRREFUTABLE FACTS: The U.S. Supreme Court has made it very clear that
        1) Treaties do not override the U.S. Constitution.
        2) Treaties cannot amend the Constitution. And last,
        3) A treaty can be nullified by a statute passed by the U.S. Congress (or by a sovereign State or States if Congress refuses to do so), when the State deems a treaty the performance of a treaty is self-destructive. The law of self-preservation overrules the law of obligation in others. When you’ve read this thoroughly, hopefully, you will never again sit quietly by when someone — anyone — claims that treaties supercede the Constitution. Help to dispell this myth.
        “This [Supreme] Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty.” – Reid v. Covert, October 1956, 354 U.S. 1, at pg 17.
        This case involved the question: Does the NATO Status of Forces Agreement (treaty) supersede the U.S. Constitution? Keep reading.
        The Reid Court (U.S. Supreme Court) held in their Opinion that,
        “… No agreement with a foreign nation can confer power on the Congress, or any other branch of government, which is free from the restraints of the Constitution. Article VI, the Supremacy clause of the Constitution declares, “This Constitution and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all the Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land…’
        “There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification which even suggest such a result…
        “It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights – let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition – to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power UNDER an international agreement, without observing constitutional prohibitions. (See: Elliot’s Debates 1836 ed. – pgs 500-519).
        “In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and Senate combined.”
        Did you understand what the Supreme Court said here? No Executive Order, Presidential Directive, Executive Agreement, no NAFTA, GATT/WTO agreement/treaty, passed by ANYONE, can supersede the Constitution….”

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  23. fleporeblog says:

    This is some powerful information! I absolutely can’t get enough. Our LION 🦁 is trying to setup in Asia the same scenario that is beautifully playing itself out in North Africa and the ME. Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 is the ey to the ME because the have the funding needed to purchase the military hardware not only for themselves but for countries like Egypt 🇪🇬 and Jordan 🇯🇴.

    Our President is trying to setup a triangle here Japan 🇯🇵, South Korea 🇰🇷 and India 🇮🇳 are able to build up their militaries so that they are able to counterbalance China 🇨🇳 and keep North Korea 🇰🇵 in check for years to come.

    We get to back away and enjoy a country that is Great Again and no longer the world 🌎 police 👮! Folks this is winning at a level that gets you your own Mount Rushmore!

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  24. Matt says:

    Thank you Sundance for your investigative research and your analysis. But for goodness sakes, my brain starts to hurt after reading so much of the details that you’ve presented. Would it not be better if these US of A just devoted her efforts to mercantilism, and conquered the rest of the world through those such means? Again, I am only aware of simple business matters, so don’t be too harsh with me.

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  25. H.R. says:

    I would LOVE to see Wilburine and Justin Noclue in a no limit poker game.

    Unfortunately for Canada, I believe Justin would go all in on a 2, 4, 7, J, K in four suits.

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  26. Payday says:

    No where else does one find such analysis. The economy is going to continue to explode “without congress” and no one is seeing him do it. But the citizens…..

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  27. sunnydaze says:

    The Asia-Pacific version of the EU. No thanks.

    Look at that pic of Trudeau with Abe. He looks like a little boy at the knee of his favorite Uncle. The one who never pays enough attention….but he’s hoping against hope.

    ugh.

    So reminds me of Macron around Trump.

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  28. n1ghtcr4wler says:

    What reason any other than corruption do Mexico and Canada have to enter TPP

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    • Thecleaner says:

      Canadas manufacturing sector is gone…we are not trying to get it back.
      Deals like this are meant to provide alternative markets for Canadas minerals, metals and other resources, and let us keep buying cheap t shirts, and flamable consumer electronics

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  30. trapper says:

    Entry into the US market is the prize. Without the US as a member the TPP is not terribly relevant.

    It’s kinda like a mustard sharing pact between the hot dog vendors at the ball park. If none of them can get in the stadium without the team owner’s consent, and if the owner won’t sign it and decides to deal with each vendor individually, then their little TPP mustard agreement isn’t worth much.

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  31. Celtic Kelly says:

    Forgive me for my ignorance regarding the nuances of successful deal making, but I have a question regarding the American businesses that relocated to Mexico:

    If by chance, that Mexico and Canada go ahead with their version of TPP (The Putz Pact) and NAFTA goes down the toilet, would it stand to reason that these companies would “beat feet” to get back to the U.S. or face being taxed and regulated to bankruptcy? I just don’t think that there is enough cheap labor to counteract this should they decide to stay.

    What do you fellow treepers think? ( I get such a great education here).

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    • backwoodsgirl123 says:

      Tariff rates will impede them from their original goal of moving to Mexico in the first place.

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    • sundance says:

      If Mexico and Canada sign up for TPP, and the U.S. cuts out of NAFTA, those U.S. companies in Mexico and Canada will indeed beat feet back into the U.S. (depending on their $ ability to do so). It becomes a 5/10 year cost analysis: Stay or Go?

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    • jmclever says:

      Cheap energy in the US will offset the labor cost. Plus American workers are more educated and tend to contribute more to the product quality and production line efficiency when they are allowed to be party of the process which doesn’t happen in narcocommunist third world countries

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  32. jkcinsalem says:

    Justen is a sock whore. Remember the NATO logo ones he modeled for Angela earlier this year.

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  33. Charles24 says:

    “Apologies in advance to our conservative Canadian friends,”

    Not necessary as Canadians had a free and open opportunity to elect their government and Trudeau was the “Sunny Ways” leader they wanted and elected. The third most popular party, the NDP, is far left of the Liberals. Two thirds of voters are anti Conservative and quite a few of the remaining third are moderate Conservatives. RINO’s would be radicals in some ways.Given all the pompous anti American snobbery and anti Trump mocking and vitriol I’ve heard for some time, Trump has justified non-economic reasons NOT to go easy on Canada. The Trudeau Liberals and their CBC propaganda network routinely brag about their moral and ethical superiority over Trump and his alleged evils like extreme vetting etc.

    I love my native country but not its Merkel like political direction. Whatever economic harm, POTUS’s MAGA agenda causes Canada will be dwarfed by the policies of its own myopic ideologue politicians. The latest B.C. Premier is considering cancelling the Site C Dam project and throwing away jobs and $ billions already spent on the project, so they can buy wind generators and Solar panels. These misguided feel good plans have been disastrous in Ontario where even LNG is evil etc.

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    • sturmudgeon says:

      Charles24: Please do not ignore the FACT that Obams sent up a bunch of ‘community organizers’ to “help” in your election of ‘Socks’. Lots of Canucks did not vote for this p.o.s.

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  34. Gadsden says:

    As we get closer to dissolving NAFTA, Trump’s security better be on high alert. If someone is going to take him out it will be prior to the dissolution of NAFTA. It took the globalists a long time to get NAFTA through, they aren’t going to give it up without a serious fight.

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  35. datagooroo says:

    All the world leaders love ripping off…I mean making deals with Justin!

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  36. wodiej says:

    Golden ticket is a perfect description. It would be all well and good if the US had a team of financial experts. But when the leader himself is an expert businessman, combined w the team of financial experts, that’s a total knockout. Most countries are nowhere close to that. We win. Thank you God.

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  37. KittyKat says:

    Massive multilateral trade deals interfere with national laws via stealth because the deals are so huge and complex, ordinary citizens can’t grasp them.

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  38. anthohmy says:

    Watching OFL (Our Fearless Leader) interact with these men brings a tear to my eye. His presence makes them happy, except when it doesn’t, but it is beyond mere happiness, it is a certain joy that brings to this casual observer a sense that every little thing is gonna be alright.

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  39. jeans2nd says:

    Trans-Pacific trade deal advances without United States
    “Some 20 provisions of the original agreement were suspended. Those included some related to protecting labour rights and the environment, although most were related to intellectual property – one of the main sticking points after the U.S. withdrawal.”

    “The agreement, which still needs to be finalised (sic), would now be called the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP)”
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apec-summit/trans-pacific-trade-deal-advances-without-united-states-idUSKBN1DA2MW?il=0

    They rebranded it, changed little if anything, and Reuters puts out Fake News to try to demean and diminish Pres Trump. Nothing has advanced anywhere, other than diminishing Canada and placing Canada in further trade danger.

    Is Reuters now competing with CN&N for Best Fake News?

    Meanwhile, China pushes globalism aka socialism aka communism, yet still opens its banks to more foreign investment, exactly as Pres Trump told China to do.

    Beg pardon, who is the puppetmaster again?

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  40. indiamaria2020 says:

    “Stupid people” no longer running our International Trade deals.

    But gee, it was so cuddly seeing Caroline Kennedy squeal with joy when she was appointed Ambassador to Japan…..

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  41. TheLastDemocrat says:

    Again, everything is set up for Canada and Mexico to each independently walk away from Nagoya, while trump USA remains, saying “if you come up with reasonable offers, we can talk. ” so, trump is not the one walking away.

    Now, with TPP Canada y Mexico have an “out. “

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  42. Grace Reeves says:

    Interesting article. Thank you. I wasn’t sure of what TPP was about.

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