October 19th – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #273

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1,349 Responses to October 19th – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #273

  1. jeans2nd says:

    New Whistleblowers Highlight How Russia’s Information War On U.S. Was Larger Than Initially Reported
    from the pouring-gasoline-on-a-bonfire dept

    “Vladimir Putin had built a massive new internet propaganda machine. At the heart of this machine sat the “Internet Research Agency,” a Russian government front company tasked with operating warehouses filled with employees paid 40,000 to 50,000 rubles ($800 to $1,000) a month to create proxied, viable fake personas — specifically tasked with pumping the internet full of toxic disinformation 24 hours a day.”

    The intention was (and is) to “”set Americans against their own government,” and “provoke unrest and discontent.””

    “Russia’s online disinformation efforts — a response to years of equally brazen efforts by the United States — are just the latest in a multi-generational cold war that perpetually seeks to take horrible ideas to new and obnoxious levels.”

    Russian interference in the United States is absolutely, positively true. As is interference from China, Iran, and countless other countries.

    That said, the Wikileaks documents/emails from Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, et al, came from local leaks (Seth Rich and Awan Cartel, imo), and are not connected to the above mentioned Russian and other countries’ interference in the United States.

    That is the unvarnished truth. And now you know.


    • Bull Durham says:

      You have half the truth and it is heavily varnished in that linked source.

      Here’s an excerpt from a thorough article that wipes the varnish off and delivers some of the facts you don’t get from the US blog sites fed baloney from the IC.

      I posted the link before. Read the whole thing. It has gone unchallenged in US media.


      Here’s a taste:

      “The best way to get information is to make it up.

      “Everything what we know now about the so-called “Kremlin trolls from the Internet Research Agency paid by Putin’s favorite chef,” came from one source, a group of CIA spies that used the mascot of Shaltay-Boltay, or Humpty-Dumpty, for their collective online persona.

      “They were arrested in November 2016 and revealed as the FSB and former FSB officers. One of them even managed a security department for the Kaspersky Lab. They all were people highly skilled and educated in manipulating and creating large online databases, in any online research imagined, and the knowledge of hacking and altering databases, including those that were run by the Russian government. They weren’t poor people. They weren’t there for the money. They were ideologically driven. Their hatred towards Russia and its people was the motive for their actions.

      “At some point, Gazeta.ru, an online Russophobic publication, suggested that “Shaltai-Boltai was just a distraction meant to confuse everybody.” They themselves were more concise by stating that they were working to change the reality.

      “Russian authorities, the courts, and the lawyers, refused to call these men hackers. There was a reason for this. They weren’t so much hackers in a classic sense, as in when someone gains access to real information and copies it. This group wasn’t necessarily hacking existing information, but planting information. They were creating files about fake nonexistent companies and employees, files with blurry fake paystubs, memos, emails, phone messages and so on. The fakes looked convincing, but they still were forgeries that could be easy disproved for someone who had access to the real information.

      “That’s when the hacking took place, when the FSB agents went into government databases and created records of people and companies that didn’t exist.

      “I think that part of the reasons why some of them got the mild sentences of three years in general security prison, and some were left free, wasn’t just the fact that they agreed to collaborate with the Russian government, but also the fact that they didn’t actually steal information from government officials like Medvedev and his press secretary, Nataliya Timakova, or the owner of the largest in Europe catering business, Evgeny Prigozhin. They made information up and claimed that it was real.

      “These guys gave a bad name to all hackers, whistleblowers, leakers and spies. Now, journalists presented with some “hacked” and leaked secrets has to think it over, less they end up with an egg on their face like journos from the Fontanka, Vedomosti and Novaya Gazeta in case of the “Kremlin’s trolls.”

      “If we accept that the Shaltay-Boltay group was working to create and distribute documents they forged, claiming that those files were “hacked,” we would also understand a mysterious statement made by them to BuzzFeed.

      “In email correspondence with BuzzFeed, a representative of the group claimed they were “not hackers in the classical sense.”

      “We are trying to change reality. Reality has indeed begun to change as a result of the appearance of our information in public,” wrote the representative, whose email account is named Shaltai Boltai, which is the Russian for tragic nursery rhyme hero Humpty Dumpty.”

      “Bazzfeed also said back in 2014, that “The leak from the Internet Research Agency is the first time specific comments under news articles can be directly traced to a Russian campaign.”


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  2. PDQ says:

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  3. duchess01 says:

    WHAT’S HAPPENING – 10/18/2017 – 10/19/2017



  4. Pam says:

    Diamond & Silk live now!

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  5. Regina says:

    As he prepared to collect a $500,000 payday in Moscow in 2010, Bill Clinton sought clearance from the State Department to meet with a key board director of the Russian nuclear energy firm Rosatom — which at the time needed the Obama administration’s approval for a controversial uranium deal, government records show.

    Arkady Dvorkovich, a top aide to then-Russian President Dmitri Medvedev and one of the highest-ranking government officials to serve on Rosatom’s board of supervisors, was listed on a May 14, 2010, email as one of 15 Russians the former president wanted to meet during a late June 2010 trip, the documents show.

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  7. Regina says:

    The bipartisan deal to stabilize ObamaCare’s markets has 24 co-sponsors, Senate Health Committee Chairman Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) announced Thursday.

    Twelve Republicans and 12 Democrats signed on to the bill, which would continue ObamaCare’s insurer subsidies for two years and give states more flexibility to waive ObamaCare rules.

    “This is a first step. Improve it and pass it sooner rather than later,” Alexander said on the Senate floor.

    —–and this part, this is rich———
    But the proposal might face an uphill battle in the House.

    It received a cold reception from Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), who said the Senate should instead focus on repealing ObamaCare.


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    • LBB says:

      A little movement. Insurers can’t keep the money for themselves. Confirmation they were?

      “Republicans likely wouldn’t put the bill on the floor of the Senate without the expressed approval from President Trump, who has sent mixed messages.

      He has repeatedly referred to the insurer payments as a “bailout,” which has been echoed by some conservative Republicans in Congress.

      Responding to that criticism Thursday, Alexander said he was open to adding any language the White House might have to strengthen a provision already in the bill to ensure that insurers can’t keep the payments for themselves, but rather have to pass savings on to consumers in the form of rebates or another mechanism. “


  8. cycle1 says:

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  9. Regina says:

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      I bet President Trump knew nothing about this! I seem to recall hearing about this award before the election, so must be something from the Obama admin.

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  12. sunnydaze says:

    I *think* this is from the recent fires in CA. (unfortunately, whoever uploaded it didn’t bother to say).

    But wherever it is, a group of Samoan firefighters singing a traditional Samoan hymn, to the tune of “What a Friend we Have in Jesus”. Just beautiful:

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  13. Cosmic says:

    The mere fact that our POTUS still regards Sessions as an asset speaks volumes to me. I still feel the calm before the storm is coming!

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  14. Pam says:

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    • Nchadwick says:


      Seriously anything that he is near — must not pass or be implemented ESPECIALLY when it comes to anything campaign. He has created this monster w/ his campaign finance reform when it comes to DARK MONEY —

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  17. Trumpfan1 says:

    Any minorities here? I am so appalled by this wilson comment on being a rock star. She really make black people look bad.


  18. Pam says:

    Gross is right!


  19. Pam says:

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  20. Bendix says:

    Bunch of Democrats in a bar in upstate NY were seen this evening working on some kind of “Virginia Is For Voters” campaign.


  21. Pam says:

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  22. LBB says:

    Senate passed the budget. House should be easier , right?


  23. Deb says:

    I have been on Twitter all day fighting back against the Great Uniparty Offensive. The coordinated attacks from all sides are starting to backfire. Many of the smug NeverTrumpers are complaining about Bush and see the media outrage for the farce that it is. They may not like PDJT, but they are starting to understand movement and see that is still has the momentum. This is a great thread form a former NeverTrumper describing the reality that the media tries so hard to hide. Please read the whole thing, its long.

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  24. Pam says:

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  27. Regina says:

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  29. Pam says:

    Let me try this one again.

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  30. Regina says:

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  31. Pam says:

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    • Regina says:

      He hasn’t been charged with anything, and he claims things were ‘consensual’ – what’s the point of being in rehab? I think he just wanted to get out of L.A. before the RoseArmy showed up at his door

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  32. Nchadwick says:

    Another example of lack of respect and no control of the NFL

    Marshawn “you know why im here, so i don’t get fined”, sit for anthem Lynch —

    Thank you for killing football you entitled poc

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  33. sunnydaze says:

    # Ms.A$$Hat is gonna bury hereself. “I’m a Rock Star now!”

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  34. LBB says:

    Al Smith dinner tonight (lyin ryan got to get his jabs in)
    Last year’s was memorable . Almost exactly one year ago.


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  35. Pam says:

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  36. cycle1 says:

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