President Trump Pennsylvania Speech on Tax Reform – 5:30pm EST Livestream…

President Donald Trump has traveled to Harrisburg Pennsylvania to deliver a speech on the need for tax reform.  The speech will likely be broadcast on cable news and is anticipated to begin at approximately 5:30pm to 6:00pm EST.

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191 Responses to President Trump Pennsylvania Speech on Tax Reform – 5:30pm EST Livestream…

  1. prenanny says:

    Thanks for a post on this am really looking forward to.
    MAGA
    Hopefully LOU will be there as well.

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    • frankie says:

      DACA is CACA.

      We hope President Trump shows heart to the Angel Moms, not the illegals and the kids they bought here.

      God give him wisdom and courage … we his people will hold him up.

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  2. FL_GUY says:

    President Trump has made an incredible number of historic speeches since he’s taken office just 8.5 months ago. Every one of them have been worthy of the history books. I feel this one is no exception.

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    • Grandma Covfefe says:

      I agree. I’d saved a great speech so I could make a copy for my notebook when i have time. Then comes another great speech–and on it goes. So now I probably have about 50 GREAT speeches and feel a little overwhelmed because we still have another 7 1/2 years to go!!! LOL.

      By in the meantime, we are winning…winning every day. That makes me smile everyday. The Covfefe Smiley Treepers, who pray and gets things done to make MAGA.

      thank You, President Trump, for all that you do for us to MAGA.

      May The Lord Bless all of you Treepers in the Tree, including the quiet lurkers.

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      • Minnie says:

        Amen 🙏

        Thank you for that wonderful idea, grandma, I will also print out OUR President’s speeches to memorialize what we had the privelege of witnessing for my children and their children.

        President Trump is one of the most historic leaders of our beautiful America, ever!!

        🇺🇸🦁🇺🇸

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    • Some Old Guy says:

      He’s making up for the dearth of them during the past 8 years. 😉

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      • Twinkletoes says:

        I’d make that since Ronald Reagan’s term of office was over. HW Bush, Clinton, GW Bush, and Obama were all cut from the same cloth and they all sold us out. The Bushes covered it up better because they had good manners, but they were traitors just as much as the Dims were.

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  3. georgiafl says:

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  4. MfM says:

    I’ve heard Sean Hannity is there.

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  5. georgiafl says:

    Just released:

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  6. georgiafl says:

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  7. Dekester says:

    Thanks for posting this, I would have missed it

    Maybe a split screen with a picture of Donohue, the Turtle and the Rat watching the speech would be amusing.

    Cheers.

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  8. prenanny says:

    Rainy and overcast in HBG area but it will feel like the sun is shining when POTUS hits the stage.
    Welcome back to central PA POTUS TRUMP.
    MAGA

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  9. fleporeblog says:

    The EO our President is going to sign tomorrow will be incredible for the Forgotten Men and Women. I found the following article that does a great job of explaining the nuances of it.

    http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-executive-order-would-give-people-an-out-from-obamacare-dems-want-to-save-obamacare-by-closing-all-the-exits/

    From the article linked above:

    President Trump may have found an ingenious way to inject more choice and competition into the insurance market, and offer affordable coverage to millions, with the stroke of his pen. No wonder the left is freaking out.

    These plans let small businesses and individuals band together to buy large-group coverage, and like plans offered by multistate businesses, these association health plans would be exempt from state regulations, as well as from ObamaCare’s burdensome mandates. They could also be sold across state lines.

    Association health plans aren’t a new concept. They exist today, but their ability to expand is severely limited by state and federal regulations. In theory, lifting some of these regulations would allow greater access to low-cost alternatives to overpriced, over-regulated ObamaCare plans.

    The LEFT’s talking points:

    Giving people low-cost options would “destabilize” the ObamaCare insurance markets, they say, because younger and healthier people would be tempted to leave the exchanges for a cheaper association health plan. That would, in turn, leave the ObamaCare exchanges catering to older, sicker and more expensive consumers.

    Meanwhile, for those who aren’t eligible for ObamaCare subsidies — a group that represents about 43% of the individual market — the current situation is even more untenable. They face the full brunt of those massive premium increases, which is pricing many out of the market altogether.

    ObamaCare promised to increase competition and lower insurance costs — for everyone. For millions of Americans, it delivered the opposite.

    Trump may have an opportunity to fulfill ObamaCare’s promise by giving these people a way out of ObamaCare. He should take it.

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    • Publius2016 says:

      This EO may foster an explosive growth in small businesses and startups! So many people want to be their own bosses but have to keep their jobs so they have health insurance for their families! President Trump knows business! With Tax Reform and this EO, the future is brighter! Dear Fools in Congress, get tax reform done now!

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      • fleporeblog says:

        Great point! People will be liberated because they can shop for the best price from state to state. Deregulating those rules are essentially going to liberate everyone. States that currently have less regulations will see a major influx into their states. Those on the opposite end of the spectrum will have to curtail their BS regulations in order to compete. This is a win-win for everyone involved. You may see lower prices than prior to Obamacare being enacted.

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        • WSB says:

          I was on one of those plans through a ‘union’ of freelancers. You signed up for their other emails and such but you received your insurance through them. Obummercare made them fold it up. They might start again and also be able to sell in other states. Maybe there is some hope yet for this year.

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          • ginaswo says:

            Let’s use the language Congress used deeming themselves a small business.
            “Readers of Treehouse Association”. Negotiate nice core plan at the rate of a corporate entity.

            I administered a plan like that ‘Multiple Employer Trust’ plans, run out of Texas.

            The states were doing great things before Fedzilla attacked with Ozerocare.

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    • duchess01 says:

      Tell me, flep! What was the problem that gave rise to O-Care? Wasn’t the original premise to cover some alleged 20M who had no coverage? What happened to everyone else? They lost their coverage completely while others were forced to pay enormous increases to cover what – those people who had no coverage?

      O-Care is the biggest tax scam perpetrated on the American people – those with good coverage were penalized for having ‘affordable’ HeathCare – somehow – all HealthCare insurance became unaffordable for more than 45% of the populace – Why?

      The best Tax Reform would include trashing O-Care – for those who had to pay outrageous insurance premiums to cover their families – I say – we charge back all of that money to Congress – ‘that other guy’ – and ‘that weird woman’ – pay up or go to jail!

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      • Grandma Covfefe says:

        Duchess, From my observations from my corner of the country and the dots I am connecting it:

        We were told by Obama and his thugs it was to help those with no insurance due to preexisting conditions.
        It’s not the sole reason.
        Why?
        I remembered previous ‘Unqualified-President’ Obama complaining about Americans’ saving/retirement accounts and that we shouldn’t be hoarding them…and that we should be sharing with others (thru redistributions). Those remark shocked and scared me. Then Obama did confirmed my fears because he did it thru BOCare. So many of our friends and famiies had to dig into their savings to keep paying for their insurances. Some got wiped out and even to this day they are one-click from being homeless and are apporaching retirement.

        Obama and the Uni Party hate us Americans, so BOCare was another way for them to further destroy us.

        Fake Congress have their own health plan. Why do they even care if BOCare is/isn’t good enough for us? Fake Congress proved, over the last 8.5 months, they don’t care about the will of the American voters–by not voting with our President Trump’s agenda. Therefore Fake Congress don’t like us. Phooey to them.

        It’s all about more Money and Control over us….then dismantling us. Fake Congress is complicit in this treason, too.

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        • duchess01 says:

          Oh, my – Grandma – you just added more information to the infuriating insurance/tax scam – I forgot about the savings and retirement accounts – oh, yes – and the redistribution of wealth agenda – smh so fast I am getting dizzy – however, you now know why I want those thieves to return what they have stolen – from all of us over the years.

          I learned about ‘both sides of the same coin’ years ago (Uniparty) – that is why I was registered as ‘unaffiliated’ – I could not vote in the primaries – but, thought it really did not matter until 2016 – thank God for the Monster Vote – in spite of the massive fraud of years past – God blessed us – and gave us a chance to fight back – now, we are fighting harder than ever to recoup our losses –

          How many times have you heard people say – there will be nothing left to leave to our children/grandchildren?

          Thanks for reminding me of things I had forgotten – it doesn’t make me feel any better – but, I hope and pray God returns what was stolen from America and Americans tenfold!

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      • fleporeblog says:

        You are absolutely right! It is the greatest Domestic Ponzi Scheme ever created. Take from those that can afford and give it to those that supposedly can’t.

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        • duchess01 says:

          Oh, thanks flep! Then, Grandma is right as well – she added some information I had long forgotten – I wonder how many people really know what the Swamp and their cohorts did to us all –

          It may be the American people got the memo – and will not stand for any more of this nonsense – I hope and pray they did!

          President Trump gave a powerful speech today – he touched on so many parts of this ‘grand deception’ – it was uncanny!

          I thank God you are here and many other Treepers, too – who are politically savvy – and aware of the ‘games the globalists play’ – pointing out what is really going on – I share as much as I can – of the truth that is presented here – and I thank God for all of you – and – of course – our fearless leader, Sundance!

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        • Kathy says:

          Still one of my favorites …

          “Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured … but not everyone must prove they are a citizen. Now consider that many of those who refuse – or are unable – to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens.” ~~ Ben Stein

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        • Ditch Mitch says:

          The real scam is the people who cant afford get little as the insurance companies steal from everyone. Insurance companies then give their “small change” to reelect those that vote the insurance companies pay increases.

          Cycle is broken when the “small change” will no longer get the crooks elected. Think HRC and Strange.

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      • Twinkletoes says:

        Well, possibly, just possibly, more people had insurance. BUT the rates and the deductibles were so terribly high, they couldn’t afford to get medical care. So the ACA really was just a high tax on people. Who wants insurance that you can’t afford to use?

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    • Bob Thoms says:

      Fingers and toes crossed…………………

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    • I’d like to see a way forward for those of us who have had less and less benefits under the companies we work for. Every year we are told how much more it costs to cover us and how it has to come out of our paychecks while we are simultaneously told there is no money so no raises. I’ve not had even a small COLA increase since 2005. The healthcare cost is now 1/4 of my pre-tax take home pay.

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    • Janie M. says:

      fle, “Giving people low-cost options would “destabilize” the ObamaCare insurance markets, they say, because younger and healthier people would be tempted to leave the exchanges for a cheaper association health plan.” Weren’t those ‘younger and healthier people’ the demographic Ozerocare wasn’t actually able to capture because most of them would rather pay the fine than the premiums? That, in turn, left the “older, sicker and more expensive consumers” the primary group signing up for coverage (didn’t most of them qualify for subsidies?).

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    • Abster says:

      I sure hope help comes soon. I received my health insurance renewal packet yesterday. My premium will increase from 783 and change to 933 and change. Deductible is 7,350. What’s worse is I am turning 61 this week and still have zero health issues. I should be very happy about that. It just adds salt to the wound because I am just tossing good money out the window. This is insane.

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  10. Aquaclara says:

    Our President just did an outstanding interview with Sean Hannity in Harrisburg, and will be giving additional remarks in a few minutes.
    Be sure to catch it tonight.
    God bless our President, and God bless America.

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  11. prenanny says:

    While we are waiting went to check out the website of the Truckers and found this great pic of TRUMP sitting in cab of a semi: scroll down a tad :
    http://www.trucking.org/Share_the_Road.aspx

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  12. I think only two people clapped for Gary Cohen.

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  13. Pam says:

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  14. fedback says:

    Love that the President always uses real people as example in his speeches

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    • That is why Americans love him. He isn’t afraid to walk and talk among the common man and he doesn’t pull them up for stage props. He actually listens to their story and repeats what he hears. He cares!

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    • Ellen says:

      So proud of my President talking to real Americans. He gave a nice shout out to Jeffrey Lord, one of the few good guys who used to work at CNN. I think Trump made good progress toward getting a repeat win in PA. MAGA!

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  15. georgiafl says:

    ENDING THE DEATH/ESTATE TAX!!!!!!!!

    This is BIG!

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    • It certainly is – no double taxation!

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    • KittyKat says:

      It’s just.

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    • starfcker says:

      FOR WHO is it big? Nobody you know. I’m sure Don Jr and Ivanka are thrilled

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      • MfM says:

        You are sounding like a troll.

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      • WSB says:

        My parents and me…and we are not Ivanka and Don, Jr.

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      • georgiafl says:

        For farmers, business owners and our children, grandchildren.

        Estate taxes can destroy family businesses.

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        • starfcker says:

          The estate tax only starts after about 5.5 million dollars, and that’s not including trusts and any other ways around it. Glad you and your folks have done so well.

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          • LW says:

            This is from an article I read:
            “The land may be valued at its highest and best use, not its value as a working farm to the family,” said Chambers.
            “Family farms located near growing urban areas were especially at risk,” Chambers said.
            And as farm land values keep increasing, that’s putting more family farms at risk of the estate tax, said Pat Soldano, founder of the anti-estate tax organization, the Policy and Taxation Group.
            “Land values have risen much faster than the rate of inflation over the last decade making many farm values well over the current $5.43 million exemption level,” said Soldano.
            And because farms have little liquidity and their capital is usually tied up in the land and farm equipment, paying the estate tax makes it difficult to operate a family farm, Soldano said.

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            • starfcker says:

              LW, I’m totally in favor of raising the threshold. But when you get rid of it entirely, you end up with Ivanka Trump/Gwyneth Paltrow types, totally detached from reality. We don’t need a hereditary aristocracy.

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          • Alison says:

            You aren’t thinking straight. Many family businesses, such as farms, auto dealerships, gas stations, and other business might have land, buildings & inventory that totals more than $5 million. But those assets ARE their business. If the owner dies & passes business to a son/daughter, they do not have available cash to pay the death taxes.

            They are forced to sell the business to pay the taxes, thus left without the assets that were intended to be passed on. This occurs to more family businesses than you realize. It is a travesty for those families who worked for years to build that business.

            Meanwhile they pay a hefty annual income tax. The death tax is like a second hit to their assets.

            I’m sorry you don’t have such a business but your comment was off the mark, Starfcker, when you lash out at fellow Treepers.

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      • Sylvia Avery says:

        For people who have fought, kicked, and labored long and hard to build a small business and can now leave it to their kids without having to sell it for taxes, that’s who. Yes, people I know.

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        • starfcker says:

          Sylvia, it starts at 5.5 million. Could easily be kicked up to 20 million. Or 50 million. Whatever. I have no real issue with the estate tax. But where is the middle class tax cut?

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      • JustSomeInputFromAz says:

        “star”…FOR WHO you ask?….Family Farms & Ranches, that is WHO.

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        • starfcker says:

          Justsome, you are drinking the Koolaid. I have a twenty acre farm in one of the most heavily urbanized counties in the entire country. So it’s amusing to me when people want to tell me about family farms. Again, people like me will do fine with this plan. But we will lose Trump in 2020. And that’s a disaster. Where is the middle class tax cut?

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          • What exactly were you hoping for? The decreased corporate tax will flow down as higher wages and reduced or stable costs. Estimate is $1k-4K less tax for middle class families. That is a significant decrease. Perhaps that can be improved on once Obamacare is dead and we have done the infrastructure updates.

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      • Blacksmith8 says:

        it’s big enough for little ole me.
        Now I won’t a separate insurance policy just to pay the taxes on my estate.
        Now my children and someday grand children will benefit from our efforts NOT some greedy pedo dhimmi in DC
        That’s who it’s big for

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  16. fedback says:

    President very gracious to Bob Kraft, presenting him as a champion of the middle class

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  17. sunnydaze says:

    “Made in the USA”. That’s my vote.

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  18. tuskyou says:

    POTUS giving props to Jeffery Lord 🙂

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  19. filia.aurea says:

    The President ‘s speech puts every single duplicitous Congress person on notice. We The People, all of us, are with HIM 100%. Enact The President’s tax plan, make your last term a good one, you’ve nothing to lose at this point.

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  20. fedback says:

    President has an uncanny sense of what the People want. He always insisted that it should be Made in the U.S.A, not America, and the people agree

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  21. Howie says:

    Put out the nets at CoC. Tom Donahue may jump.

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  22. starfcker says:

    I’m just not feeling this. I hope he gets this right. I hope we get to see some details soon. He seems to have forgotten the middle.

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    • WUT? It all sounded good to me. He forgot the middle what? He did not forget the middle class, listen again.

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      • Kaco says:

        Don’t know what bracket we’d fall in but we’re at 20% or a little more now at and including our deductions and we won’t have the deductions under this plan. Also don’t know if my elderly father can deduct his medical and home care out of pocket expenses so he gets his taxes paid back to pay for his property tax and insurance. I agree with the estate tax removal, especially for farmers.

        According to the tax brackets I found, we would be at the middle rate. My children do not receive daycare and my father pays for his own expenses.

        Okay just looked this up, no my father would actually be paying taxes now when he is a zero liability currently. Medical and care expenses are non-deductible. I am not paying for his care, he is. This completely sucks. Lower the corporate rate and forget the citizen tax reform.

        Okay, so I just did a calculator on this, we would owe almost 5K more in taxes.

        I am against this tax plan with no deductions. I couldn’t give a rats butt about complicated forms. Do they want to put my father’s accountant out of business?

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    • Jlwary says:

      Hahaha are you missing your “/s” lmao!? Wow. This comment is so out of place, seeing as within his speech he went into the many details he wants within the tax reform. Did you listen??

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    • tdaly14 says:

      Are you serious. I want businesses to reap the tax cuts. We’ll get some ourselves as well.

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    • What? What a sour puss you must be. Go to bed, sleep all night, and wake up in a good mood! Please – you are such a downer.

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  23. fedback says:

    The President having a one on one with the American people

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  24. Sylvia Avery says:

    I am enjoying this speech. I keep saying this, but I think he just keeps getting better and better at speaking. I really love to hear him talk.

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  25. fedback says:

    Another great inspirational speech by the President

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  26. Howie says:

    Will the Turtle be able to complete his Grand Dither and manage to get nothing done for 30 more days? 30 days to The Festival of the Splitting of the Loot. The Great Omnicroneybus scheme is just over the horizon. The crooks in Congress are licking their chops.

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  27. Dora says:

    What a smile!

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  28. TeaForAll says:

    Sundance

    I would love for you to do a interview with President Trump. That would be awesome
    Tea

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  29. Cindy says:

    Our beloved president will get everything he wants without the help of Congress at all. They are the uniparty. Someone a couple of days ago posted a senator speaking about Congress and what it’s really like there. It was chilling to listen to. And after having a few days to think about it, I believe with everything in me that President Trump knows. He knows. We don’t need to fear a thing. He’s got this. And this is going to sound silly, but with the same faith that I believe in God, and I really do, I really believe in Donald Trump.

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    • pyromancer76 says:

      Thank you, Cindy. I agree. He is far beyond those feckless individuals. I, too, really believe in Donald Trump and thank God every day that he is President. I also am grateful everyday for TheConservativeTreeHouse and Sundance’s dedication to explaining the President’s purposes and even some of his strategies. MAGA

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  30. Kaco says:

    According to the this plan, non-reimbursed medical and home care for seniors is not included in this. Also according to the plan, we would be paying over 5 grand more in taxes.

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  31. MVW says:

    DJT speaks the language of real working Americans, not the smug condescending lecturing we get from the class warfare, race warfare, American hating Leftists who think they are elites.

    These so-called ‘betters’ who want to school us on how to be moral give passes to women hating and non muslim hating muslims and Hollywood idiots. Self privilege granting, virtue signaling hypocrites are being called out into the sunlight.

    Enough of this rant. DJT hit this speech out of the park… again. MAGA

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  32. StanH says:

    Get’em big guy! You have to love our President, finally someone to speak up for America.

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  33. woohoowee says:

    Love the “WIN AGAIN” on the truck in the background 🙂

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  34. trialbytruth says:

    I love the new community standard that seems to have sprouted up here.Ignoring the naysayers is a good policy.

    It is the ancient act of shun nothing frustrated a table rouser more then being ignored.

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    • starfcker says:

      Trialbytruth, your local community college probably has some remedial math classes you could take at night. Get up to speed and get back to us.

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      • trialbytruth says:

        excuse me??? was i talking to you?

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        • starfcker says:

          I’m talking to you. Don’t wilt now. I love Trump. But this is a bad mistake. Pressure from below certainly got a better response from him on DACA. He needs to hear us this time too. Not time to blindly cheerlead. We can’t let him make a mistake. I think repatriation is good policy. I think 20% rate for C-corps is good policy. But cutting hefty middle class deductions, while keeping the rate basically the same at 25%, and taxing small business at a higher rate than walmart, is a PR disaster. We need Trump for 8 years. People he promised a tax cut to will be very angry when they get their bill and realize they got nothing.

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          • Irregardless of whether you are correct or not…you are being a jerk to your fellow treepers…STOP IT!!!

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          • JustSomeInputFromAz says:

            What “Hefty” Middle Class deductions do you perceive to be cut?

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            • Kaco says:

              “The change could hurt families with many children, since married couples will be limited to a new $24,000 deduction, rather than receiving an additional exemption of $4,050 per child. Trump’s plan said it will increase the Child Tax Credit to offset this, but did not specify by how much. The plan also promised additional middle-class tax relief.

              People with higher incomes typically itemize deductions, while people with middle and lower incomes often take the standard deduction. A Washington Post analysis of 2015 tax returns found breaks for state and local taxes, which the Trump plan would eliminate, overwhelmingly benefit rich taxpayers. So did deductions for mortgage interest and charitable giving, which the plan would keep.

              Many details of the plan, including what would happen to the Earned Income Tax Credit and other credits commonly used by working-class families, are not yet clear.”

              http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/oct/10/donald-trump-tax-reform-overview/

              “A Big Tax Question: What Happens to the Medical-Expense Deduction?

              One of those using the write-off is Paul Gregory, a 57-year-old resident of Plano, Texas, who was diagnosed with Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis five years ago. Mr. Gregory says that despite having insurance, he’s spending $130,000 per year out-of-pocket for round-the-clock care, which has consumed all of his retirement savings and a large part of his wife’s.

              One cushion to the financial blow has been that these costs are tax-deductible.

              Hearing of the potential change “was a real body blow,” said Mr. Gregory, who communicates via email because he can no longer speak.

              Above the threshold, however, a wide variety of out-of-pocket costs is deductible, including many that may not be covered by insurance. These include nursing-home costs, insurance premiums paid with after-tax dollars, prostheses, eyeglasses, and even a wig, if needed after chemotherapy, among others.

              The upshot is that taxpayers who do qualify for medical deductions are often facing serious and costly health issues requiring services or treatments not covered by insurance. Often they aren’t eligible for Medicaid.”

              http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/09/29/big-tax-question-what-happens-to-medical-expense-deduction.html

              Even before my father got home care, he and my mother, as retirees, were able to deduct their medical premiums, medications, all out of pocket visits. This deduction is not included in the current plan.

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              • JustSomeInputFromAz says:

                Tag Team much?

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                • Kaco says:

                  I have been concerned about this tax plan ever since I saw the elimination of the deductions and now I see the tax brackets and we fall in the middle as we’re under 100K and over 50K. I’ve been asking this for months almost every time I see it’s brought up. Nobody has presented the actual plan here so I had to dig. You can see the articles I posted. I’m not throwing the baby out with the bath water like Starfker.

                  My sister-in-law is a wine rep and she’s able to have all these personal deductions for her cost of business with the distributor. We also have a lot of personal deductions.
                  It doesn’t sound we’re getting a break and are gauged to be paying more from 20% now to 25%. I have children but they’re older and not in daycare and actually never were, I was a stay at home mother. I didn’t want to put them in daycare.

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          • trialbytruth says:

            I will respond once.

            Pressure from no where changed his position on DACA he simply put it to congress to chew on. Are they willing to die in the mid-terms it appears not TRUMP WINS.

            25% On S corps is only on profits I know I have a small business. There is never much profit in a business mostly, it is a pass through expenses and salaries. Then you get taxed again on wages and profits. Since most expenses are out of the business and employee reimbursed taxable income even on what is seen as a successful small business is small. The 24 non taxable is much better then anything I could write off on a 1040.

            The hard fact is most of the taxes paid included by the lowest paid workers are medicare and social security taxes . There is only so much that can be done on income taxes. Those are killer takes but top off at higher income. So in essence it is a regressive tax.

            My son earns 200 G a year salary he pays about 50 g in taxes federal, state, local,. He spends about a grand a year doing taxes. I think he will appreciate a simpler tax code as near as I can tell he will get a slight reduction in fed.

            The solution is a more efficient smaller government. Reducing cost and growing the economy decreases dependency further reducing cost. The economic pie becomes bigger and the slice required to operate government becomes smaller both on dollars and as a percentage of earnings.

            Separating the tax plan from the rest of MAGA is naive

            Now I will put on my spanks, skirt and sweater, and Grab my Pom Poms.

            Give me a M

            Give me an A

            Give me a G

            Give me an A

            FINI

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      • Star … I hate to say this but you are a real downer and it sounds like you want a free ride at everyone else’s expense. I am just sayin’.

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  35. Pattycake says:

    How can you promote a tax plan (which I am all for ) without presenting the salary tax brackets? How do we know what the bottom line is for each of us without them?

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  36. Sean Supsky says:

    Far be it for me to denigrate someone’s ability to speak and voice concerns, but it seems that some are acting like chicken little without actually researching everything first.

    The liberals act on their feelings instead of their intelligence.

    Hasn’t anyone learned anything yet about how President Trump operates?

    Wait for the other shoe before screaming the is nigh.

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    • Sean Supsky says:

      Should read:

      Wait for the other shoe before screaming the end is nigh.

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    • starfcker says:

      I hope you’re right, Sean. It seemed to go that way on DACA. But the plan as proposed now is not defensible. The middle class in many states could see tax increases because of losing deductions. And they will feel betrayed and rightly so.

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      • Kaco says:

        Yes, President Trump is the finger in the dike holding us apart from the globalist traitors and this country going under. I hope this is not what is presented but at this point I don’t see it and you know the areas I’m concerned about and actually have been questioning this for months. I don’t want to wait to “pass it before we know what’s in it” and too late to at least contact of phone the usual or something. I’m more concerned about my father than myself but we are not sitting pretty either, I was hoping for a tax cut, not a hike. It’s been rough. I’ve said before it’s tough for a middle class family that is below 100K.

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  37. SEABEE4TRUMP says:

    After watching this speech, it dawned on me what I admire most about President Trump…he truly holds the common hardworking individual in the highest regard! In my experience, most persons of wealth cannot relate to the common working man/woman…President Trump not only relates to them, he admires them and places each upon a pedestal!

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  38. anthohmy says:

    So at first pass, this will change things for middle-income wage earners who do not itemize deductions aka non-homeowners, people not currently building equity through real estate.

    Hark, I hear Sundance saying something about housing costs easing. Could this relate?

    If S Corp pass-through drops to 25% from 39% that will affect Main Street, for Wall Street forms C Corps. Main Street forms S Corps.

    Gas is about $15 a tank less right now, propane is much cheaper – will cost at least half to heat the house this year.

    Bread was 4.59 a loaf 2 years ago, I see it on sale for $1.59 next week.

    Of course, we were disappointed when we did the initial math until we settled down and thought about it.

    I hope the President does as good a job prepping us as Sundance has.

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    • Kaco says:

      My natural gas budget was on a trend down last couple years by a couple bucks but now raised 5 bucks for this year’s budget that goes until August of next year. I have no idea why, I thought it would be going down more.

      I really hope to see Sundance do an analysis on this tax plan if he can get whatever accurate info to know what we and my senior father are in for.

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      • anthohmy says:

        That is very odd Kaco, do you live in a region affected by unusual circumstances?

        I imagine we won’t have accurate information until a bill passes.

        I don’t remember one of those happenings in such a long time, though.

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        • Kaco says:

          Hi, anthohmy, I wouldn’t think so, greater Cleveland area, no lake effect. I need to call the gas company, didn’t get a chance today.

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