President Trump Campaigns in Alabama – 8:00pm Livestream…

President Donald Trump is visiting Huntsville, Alabama, tonight to participate in a campaign rally for interim Senator Luther Strange.  Strange is facing off against Judge Roy Moore in the runoff election to permanently fill the Senate seat of Jeff Sessions.

The campaign event is scheduled for 8:00pm EDT.

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1,261 Responses to President Trump Campaigns in Alabama – 8:00pm Livestream…

  1. MK Wood says:

    Some folks wonder why Pres Trump has endorsed Strange. It’s very simple.

    “Strange was willing to back legislation important to Trump with no strings attached (repealing Obamacare).

    Strange and Trump developed a relationship in Washington where Strange was a loyal supporter of Trump’s agenda.”

    Strange supported him. In return Pres Trump has supported a known entity.

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    • Betty says:

      “Strange supported him. In return Pres Trump has supported a known entity.”

      How is that?
      How much of “Trumps agenda” has been implemented or how many of his appointments have been confirmed, did Strange vote to tie Trumps hands during the break?
      No matter what you say Trumps support of Strange is inexplicable.

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    • toomanykats says:

      really? Strange said he was a puppet of Putin. Strange is a RINO swamp dweller

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  2. Ivehadit says:

    Sue, I have been here several years and helped get Trump elected. I don’t remember you doing the same. Did you? Because Donald Trump basically has the “copyrights” to “Drain the Swamp.” Not Cruz, not Bannon. Not Palin.

    Let us not forget that Bannon was for Cruz even AFTER the convention. He did not join Trump until August, 2016. Donald mentioned this when Bannon left. “He came late.”

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  3. Deb says:

    What does that have to do with a political debate? The man is a grandstander, and that’s not the best strategy at this point in time.

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  4. indiamaria2020 says:

    Senator Strange has the ENDORSEMENT of President Trump, Vice-President Pence, The NRA, The National Right to Life, and the Alabama Farmers. His opponent has the endorsement of Doofy Mike Lee, ToxicTed Cruz, Poor Judgement Palin, and NeverTrump Mo “Loser” Brooks.

    Gee, I wonder who Alabamans should support?….Hmmm.

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  5. indiamaria2020 says:

    By the way, recall that the Roy Moore Support Team,ToxicTed Cruz and NeverTrump Mike LEE, worked hard to get TPP passed.

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  6. MAGAbear says:

    Well, I’ll never agree with anyone 100% of the time, so on this one DJT got it wrong. I respect the loyalty aspect of Trump supporting Strange, but go Judge Moore!!!

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    • treehouseron says:

      So you ************** put “MAGA” in your username, but trust Breitbart over President Trump’s own explanations? He completely explained the McConnell thing, and that’s the only, single piece of dirt any of you never trumpers has brought up about Strange.

      of course if you truly supported the President, you would have watched the rally and would know that already.

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    • beachgrammie says:

      Maybe you don’t agree 100% of the time, but when POTUS asks his supporters multiple times on twitter to vote for Strange and makes a special trip to Alabama especially for that purpose — when previously he has not asked his supporters for anything at all — is the person who will not listen and pitch in and vote for Strange as POTUS suggested really a Trump supporter?

      Or is that the kind of person that wants something from Trump, but forget about doing something for Trump. Besides that, Moore would be a pita.

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      • somaspecialist says:

        Exactly…this isn’t a “5d chess” endorsement. The President feels Strange is the one who will work the best with him to pass the MAGA agenda. He said it loud and clear Strange is LOYAL. It’s proven too. He voted to repeal Ocare all 3 times. How many Moore supporting R senators can say that. Breitbart HAS, now, and forever will be NeverTrump

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        • Mariainohio says:

          I think, based on the timing, that Trump agreed to back Strange and in return McConnell agreed to help Trump pass healthcare. It looks like McConnell is unable to fulfill his part of the bargain and suddenly we see Trump say some nice things about Moore. Timing is everything and I believe the two are most likely related. Trump simply made a deal with McConnell. At least that’s what it looks like to me.

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          • windwardman says:

            That’s the sense I have, as well. While I think Strange would do a good job, too, I’d have to vote, were I a ‘Baman, for a man who refuses to abandon God and His Commandments–no matter the cost to him and his livelihood.

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        • cwf60 says:

          We shall see who is loyal when this all shakes out, since loyalty seems to be a rare commodity in the Republican led Congress.

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      • Contrarymary says:

        This is not about “follow the leader”. Judge Roy Moore is an honorable man among men who has stood on principle against his own best interest. I love and respect judge Roy Moore above any in government that I have seen. He doesn’t cave to pressure from evil. Trump also backed Rene elmers who was a swamp critter that stabbed her backers in the back. I backed trump from the beginning, but I don’t blindly follow anybody, but GOD.

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        • Jenny R. says:

          So the real question for you might be: How do you know Roy Moore is truly a man of God? When has Moore chosen principle over his interests, truly?

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          • cwf60 says:

            There is a lot of evidence that Luther Strange has not chosen principle over his self interest.

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          • Contrarymary says:

            Well, Jenny, I didn’t say judge Roy Moore was a “man of GOD”. Only GOD knows Roy moore’s heart. As He said “man looks at the outward appearance, but GOD looks at the heart. Judge Roy Moore, at the very least stood up to the powers that be, against the removal of the Ten Commandments, which was the very foundation of our system of laws. The Bible was the framework of our constitutional republic and was the very fiber of our culture. As James Madison wrote “We have no government armed with the power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and true religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other”. We see the fruits of removing our Bible from the public square: riots, self pride, flaunting and embracing of perversion, drug addiction, mass abortion, corruption, to name a few. Judge Moore was removed from office. He was returned to the bench by the people. He stood his ground against the supreme courts edicts on gay marriage, which he was in his legal rights to do, as he was constitutionally within rights, but he was sidelined by other judges commissions who wanted to placate the leftist swampcritters. He didn’t cave to the prevailing winds of political correction and I greatly admire him for that. He stood tall.

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        • sha44ss says:

          Just took the words right out of my mouth! Couldn’t have said it any better in fact. Look at the mistake he made with Sessions. Should have supported Nehlan against Ryan when he had the chance!

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      • backwoodsgirl123 says:

        I did a lot of research on Strange when he first started running and I found some good stuff about him. But at that time, I was spending the majority of my online comment time on BB. And I was shocked at their vehemence. I reckon THAT was what finally woke me up. BB is undermining Trump and has now become FAKE NEWS!

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        • Brietbart can be so blindly extreme in their causes and/or agendas – they have the tendency to over exaggerate & sometimes down right lie in some of their reporting. Extremism in any political form isn’t healthy!

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          • backwoodsgirl123 says:

            I got tired of calling them on it! But of course, most of the BBer’s read the headline and maybe a little bit of the “article”, and then go on to make comments.

            I’d sit there and read the whole thing and get madder than a wet hen! And then tell them so!

            After Bannon came back and the Trump hits got worse, I gave up on them.

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        • cwf60 says:

          https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/luther-strange-already-out-with-lying-ads-fits-right-in-with-establishment

          I did a lot of research also and came up with a different conclusion. Knowing McConnell’s track record, and his PAC’s contribution of 8 million dollars to Strange’s campaign gave me pause. Strange’s appointment to Session’s vacated seat is an interesting read. I am tired of people on this site condemning those with different opinions based on facts that many put aside. I am a Trump supporter who disagrees with the president on this issue.
          DACA is another, but I reserve the right to change my mind when he signs or vetoes what Congress sends him. BB is not evil, because you all disagree. Your vitriol is beginning to sound like the other side.
          The article that I posted from Conservative Review will not be well received and have the site condemned. The comments on this site when someone disagrees makes me think that I have stumbled onto a liberal site. Try and be respectful.

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          • backwoodsgirl123 says:

            Sorry, BB is not to be trusted. They broke that trust. And if you listen to their propaganda….then, you need to examine your “facts”

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            • cwf60 says:

              I trust very few sites and am beginning to have issues with the vitriolic comments on CTH when people think outside the script. Let me get this straight, BB gets it right or wrong depending on your point of view and is condemned when they dare to go off message. I do not agree with anyone 100% of the time but enjoy the debate. Disagreeing with PDJT has nothing to do with supporting him. Do you ever disagree with someone in your life? Do you throw them under the bus when you disagree? I understand we all come from different walks of life with different life experiences that form our opinions.
              While you are casting aspersions on those who disagree with the president on his support for Strange, you may want to research Strange to understand why he is not supported by many. I have posted numerous articles to help you. It is your right to have an opinion as it is mine. We can agree to disagree.

              http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/02/robert_bentley_and_luther_stra.html

              https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/luther-strange-already-out-with-lying-ads-fits-right-in-with-establishment

              https://lagniappemobile.com/strange-sold-soul-race/

              Do we really want to drain the swamp? I guess we will find out soon.

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              • Apollo says:

                “I trust very few sites and am beginning to have issues with the vitriolic comments on CTH when people think outside the script.”

                I’ve felt the same thing.

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              • backwoodsgirl123 says:

                Once again, you are being biased!

                I was a faithful BB’er since before the elections. Then, we had to fight BB’s bias for Cruz and fight we did! After the stunt Cruz pulled in IA, they cooled a tad and then Trump was obviously the winner. We thought that they had finally seen the light!

                Then, low and behold they start hiring Liberals to write for BB. One in particular actually stated that he wanted “to persuade us….” and there was an uproar over that but they let him stay, I do believe.

                Then were were a few firings and more hirings and the propaganda against Trump got worse and worse and worse.

                They knew they couldn’t outright attack Trump head-on, not as often as they wished, they did it in subtle ways. If they did it too often, that would leave them with only Cruzbots and trolls left. So, they did the subversive/liberal/swamp monster thing. They began to undermine just about everything that Trump did. They refused to publish hardly anything he accomplished, unless the MSM covered it.

                They continually republished garbage from the MSM, over and over adnauseum. Never defending him. Trumpers started leaving BB back then. I hung in there. I liked the other Trumpers. UNTIL….UNTIL, I got downright depressed over what BB was publishing about Trump!

                I got off line and I was crying my eyes out and my hubby was asking me what was wrong…so I told him. Got it all out of my system. And I started praying.

                And the Lord lead me back to CT and other sites and what I found amazed me! Here, BB was publishing all of this garbage about Trump and Trump’s choices, etc. All negative! But I come here or on some other sites and Trump is doing great! They are publishing Trump’s accomplishments, and while I started posting them on BB and got people thanking me for it, I began to get disgusted with BB’s duplicity and dishonesty.

                OH, and the fact that THEY TAKE ALL CREDIT FOR GETTING TRUMP ELECTED, HA!!!
                Two or three times they’ve done that and that’s a lie too! They did everything to undermine Trump and support Cruz. WE got Trump elected! We used BB as a forum to gain support for Trump and they are so egotistical they don’t even realize it yet!

                So, the pattern with BB now seems to be, throw out a bone once in awhile, then offer nothing more substantial than Click Bait! Earning an income from stabbing our President and his supporters in the back!

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            • cwf60 says:

              And your sources are factual?

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      • okapisage says:

        I was very confused about Moore vs Strange from all I had read — BEFORE listening to the rally. You are absolutely right, beachgrammie. This is a request by our President to back him up on this. This is something we need to trust him on and do for him, and it’s not blind faith — he explained it in the clearest possible terms last night. I wish I lived in Alabama so that I could vote, but at least I can speak up here.

        President Trump is taking a huge risk here, but you don’t win unless you take huge risks like this and then don’t second-guess it. You make the choice right by holding steady on it, and literally making it the right choice, just what Trump is doing now. If Luther wins, there will be no downside for us.

        But it takes real guts to take a risk like this — he said twice last night how badly he will be savaged in the media if Luther loses. Trump needs only one thing to win on this — us, his supporters, to have his back. How many times has he asked something like this? He’s risking an immense amount of political capital on this. To me, it’s a no-brainer. If you live in Alabama, vote for Big Luther! And if you don’t, than at least join the groundswell of support. Make it strong!

        Anyone who keeps on about Moore at this point, after the rally, is not truly a Trump supporter. You couldn’t have listened to his direct appeal to us, the people, and still be hemming and hawing. It’s not a question of blind faith, it’s of making sure that huge risk that President Trump is taking now will pay off. And the payoff will not just be one Senator. Imagine what Trump’s political capital will be if he backs an underdog, and the underdog wins. It will be a message to all of Washington, and things are going to start getting done. People up for re-election are going to start falling in line, fast, on issues right now in September. Health care, tax code? Trump’s agenda — our agenda — is going to happen!

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        • okapisage you really need to repost this as often as you can before Tuesday.
          You explained perfectly and simply why we need to get Strange elected.
          If you vote Moore then you really don’t want Trump to succeed.
          He has asked nothing of us but this one thing….let’s show him we have his back.

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      • Frankly Ben says:

        Hmmm, Mike Lee, the stealth globalist, and serpent eyes liar Ted Cruz support Moore, AND the Prez has a special trip to Alabama to specifically sing the praises of Luther Strange.

        Ya think he knows something we don’t?

        Has he let us down ever?

        Even once?

        I have no idea about either of these two guys so I’ll keep it simple.

        I support Trump – so far I’m batting a thousand.

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    • elleb77 says:

      I think the real question on Tuesday is, “do the voters hate Mitch McConnell more than they love Donald Trump”.

      My guess is that they hate McConnell a lot more. Trump voters are becoming more and more “concerned” about Trump’s recent staff picks and I think Alabama will let Trump know on Tuesday that it’s still “we the people” and you’d best be paying attention to the ones that brought you to the dance.

      We will see. I know many people on CTH will not abide any doubts about Trump, but out in the real world, there is a lot of whispering about Dina Powell, Gary Cohn, McMaster … etc. I just think people are going to send a warning shot to Trump that we still have power at the voting booth.

      I don’t have a strong love for either one, although, I slightly favor Moore. It will be an interesting election night. I do think either one will beat the Democrat… I hope.

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      • Frankly Ben says:

        You’re missing the point, elleb. It’s not that CTH readers won’t abide any straying from the Trump train. That’s not the issue.

        The issue is Trump has given us no reason to. He’s kept every promise other than locking up Hitlery and prosecuting the massive corruption but I’ll give him some slack on that one. He’s got a lot on his plate, you know.

        I’m not getting bent out of shape over his staff – I’m keeping focused on the big issues.

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          • Peter says:

            DACA?

            Newsflash! DACA was not renewed.

            Stop the lies. Nothing but lies and fear and “Javanka” trash.

            Watch the artist paint – stop b*tching about the color of his canvas.

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            • cwf60 says:

              Did I say DACA was renewed? You really went off the rails with your comments. President Trump wants Congress to find a solution for DACA. My questions pertain to his empathy toward illegal aliens who are screaming in the streets demanding to stay, and the new applicants that are being allowed to continue through the process. I realize that any questions are considered heresy, but they need to be asked. Save your tirades for someone else.

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        • backwoodsgirl123 says:

          Besides, he hasn’t even been in office a year yet!

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        • elleb77 says:

          You’re missing the point, elleb. It’s not that CTH readers won’t abide any straying from the Trump train.
          ————————————-
          From what I’ve observed, there is no tolerance on CTH for any questioning of Trump. Good people with honest and serious concerns are quickly labeled Cruzbots, trolls, NeverTrumpers …

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      • @elleb You are really missing the point.
        Trump has stood in the battlefield surrounded by the enemy and has endured….he is putting all of his political capitol on the line by asking this of us.
        We owe it to him, for the sake of the country, to do what he asks of us.
        Moore might truly be a good and decent man but he also may be obstructionist when it comes to helping Trump succeed in MAGA.
        Trust in Trump; he will never lie to us

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      • cwf60 says:

        Alabama is a Republican state, so I think a Republican will win. Well stated comment.

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      • singingsoul says:

        elleb77
        “I think the real question on Tuesday is, “do the voters hate Mitch McConnell more than they love Donald Trump”.
        _______________________________________________
        If it is true that these people in Alabama hate to the point where love in unable to enter their heart for President Trump I then question their christian faith. I do not do that often but thee are signs that are disturbing because hate belongs to the dark side and Love is light.
        As Christian I believe that the Light always overcomes the dark.
        The Pharisees hated so much that they nailed Christ to the cross who was Love.

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    • I’m glad to read a lot rational thinking on this blog! Actually, this is one few sites, make me feel at home. LOL!

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    • Squidly says:

      So, you would support someone who thumbs their nose at the rule of law? .. who directly violates federal court orders. Who ignores his own State Supreme Court? .. Who has been kicked of the judicial bench, not once, but twice!.

      And why? .. Because McConnell’s super PAC gave him some money? .. Which was a brilliant move by McConnell’s PAC, because I can tell you right now they do not support Luther Strange. The idea was (and it is working), that the money would hurt Strange more than it would help Roy Moore. And it is clearly working brilliantly.

      Why would anyone drop a Senator that has supported Trump and the Trump agenda 100%, just to support lawless activist judge who isn’t fit to sit on his State Supreme Court (was denied) and is not fit to sit in the US Senate either.

      Holy crap on a cracker .. I can’t even believe what I have been seeing. People don’t even think but will grab a Breitbart headline and just run with it. Unbelievable.

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      • cwf60 says:

        You obviously have not read anything about Luther Strange. Interesting.

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      • scott467 says:

        “So, you would support someone who thumbs their nose at the rule of law? .. who directly violates federal court orders. Who ignores his own State Supreme Court? .. Who has been kicked of the judicial bench, not once, but twice!.”

        ______________

        I don’t (can’t) know who is the best candidate. I am not in Alabama and I don’t know a lot about either candidate. Like many (most?) people who are not in Alabama, I am going by the things I read, instinct and applying reason to what knowledge we have.

        I watched DJT’s speech last night, and he made an affirmative case for Luther, which I had not heard before, up to that point.

        But what I want to point out is that your argument (quoted above) is not only NOT persuasive, it is counterproductive. And I want to show you why, so that it hopefully makes sense.

        If a bad law is made, we SHOULD thumb our nose at it. This is the most amazing (and often infuriating) thing. So many people act like we are slaves on a government plantation, and whatever Big Brother Slavemaster says, we better get in line and say “How high?!” when Big Brother says jump.

        I reject that outright, because it is FALSE.

        That may be the practical reality because so many have FAILED to hold our corrupt government accountable, so that we are no longer a FREE People. And if that is the case, then We the People have a moral obligation — both to those who died to ensure our freedom and to those who come after us, in posterity — to set that right, NOW.

        The truth is that We the People are the highest Authority in THIS land. NOT the fallible Supreme Court, not the grotesquely corrupt Congress and not the president.

        Ours is a government of, by and for the People.

        We the People created the Constitution.

        The Constitution created the government, including the judiciary.

        It is a Maxim of Law that the created (i.e., the government, including the judiciary) is not and cannot be greater than the Creator (i.e. We the People).

        This is basic, foundational stuff. Things which people seem to have UTTERLY and COMPLETELY forgotten.

        .

        Now, back to your comment: “So, you would support someone who thumbs their nose at the rule of law? .. who directly violates federal court orders. Who ignores his own State Supreme Court? .. Who has been kicked of the judicial bench, not once, but twice!.”

        __________

        If a Law is passed to round up Jews and send them off to concentration camps, should we not ‘thumb our nose’ at that law? Should we not resoundingly and directly violate any such court order? Should we not ignore not only the State Supreme Court but the United States Supreme Court as well, if they were to become so corrupted?

        The easy and obvious answer is YES, we should absolutely ignore and violate egregious, heinous errors of the ‘law’ and those who are so corrupt as to make such errors.

        Hitler caused 11,000,000 people to be murdered in the concentration camps, we are told.

        Roe v. Wade has eclipsed Hitler by a factor of FIVE, and the Supreme Court’s decision on Roe v. Wade is murdering more innocent people every day.

        With regard to Judge Moore in particular, having the 10 Commandments in a Courthouse is a matter of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion, and the religion that is the foundation of Western Civilization is not islam, it is not Hinduism, it is not Buddhism, it is Christianity — and no other.

        And the Left’s relentless Satanic attack on God and Christ, ripping God out of the public square, everywhere it can, has had what kind of effect on our country?

        Look around.

        So when a man stands up for our Founding Fathers, for our tradition and history, for our Bill of Rights and for God Almighty, and the corrupt courts and corrupt government stand against that man, I will stand with that man against the corrupt courts and against the corrupt government.

        And so should we all. [note: I am not talking about the election next week, I am trying to show why your reasoning in the quote above was not a reason to reject Moore, but to the contrary, a call to arms.]

        We are not wards of the State, and we are not slaves to a corrupt government — not in THIS country.

        In this country, the government serves at OUR pleasure, and the moment it no longer does so, we have every right to alter or abolish it.

        ……………………………
        “This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.”

        Abraham Lincoln, inaugural address, March 4, 1861
        ……………………………

        .
        .

        ……………………………
        Declaration of Independence:

        “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

        That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

        That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
        ………………………..

        These words and others like them, they either mean something, or they don’t.

        If they don’t, then nothing we do next week or next month or next year matters anyway.

        But if they DO mean something, it will only be because we MAKE them mean what they plainly say and were intended to mean.

        This is not a game.

        We have almost lost this country.

        There is an coup attempt happening right now, ongoing since before the inauguration, instigated by the previous president and being perpetrated by a large number of traitors, both inside government and out.

        The very survival of our country hangs in the balance.

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    • Peter says:

      When MAGA came calling, you slept, MAGAbear

      Go back and replay Trumps speech again. Once you actually listen to what his points are, no way you vote/support Moore.

      Cruzbots are everywhere and they are voting Moore.

      Trust Trump.

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  7. The Boss says:

    Looks like site admins have been busy cleaning up tonight. Thank you. Certain posters were getting tiresome.

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  8. treehouseron says:

    Towards the end of the rally, when he talked about the VA abusing vets, wow. Another great soundbite that has libs calling suicide prevention hotlines

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  9. Betty says:

    I’m not from AL but from the comments here it is pretty much the majority opinion that Moore is a poor candidate. So what is going on in AL with the voters that Moore is ahead by many points in the polls? He also had 40 percent of the vote in the first election. Why are so many people voting for him?

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    • There has been a concerted and mostly successful effort to silence the opposing point of view over the past few days. If you want a more balanced evaluation you will have to do some research outside the echo chamber.

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      • Deb says:

        Silence? Please. Just because people get tired of hearing the same points be made over and over and being insulted for supporting PDJT’s candidate doesn’t mean you are being “silenced.”

        This comment is exactly why people think you are a troll.

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        • If people think I’m a troll Deb, they don’t think. Silenced is exactly what I mean. We’ve had some cheerleaders these last couple of days who think that if they tag team each other and counter any other viewpoint with volume they have won.

          I have too much respect for Sundance to get in a mudslinging contest in his house so I am silenced. When I post an opinion I include reasons or references and if someone answers with material I look it over and may broaden my view. That to me is the point. When I am told I need to shut up because if I don’t I’m a troll it tells me a lot about the person trying to shut me up and I know its not worth the effort to communicate with them or over them.

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          • Deb says:

            Calling us “the echo chamber” is an insult. You have been very rude in your comments.

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            • Deb, some of your comments showed you understood that we need to be respectful in our disagreement.
              I have been attacked and watched others be attacked a lot over the last two days. I have been called many things worse than an echo chamber.
              The thread has been getting better since Ad Rem has done some cleaning up, with people acknowledging that we have much in common and are on the same team.

              I was using the term echo chamber to wake people up to what happens when you silence disagreement not to be rude. I am sorry you were hurt. I would be happy to hear any other way I have been rude to you since i try very hard to point things out diplomatically the first 3 times.

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          • I have to agree. It’s pretty obvious we have a broad range of emotions coming from people here at CTH. And sadly, we can get defensive about things. I wish it didn’t have to be that way.

            However, I also think that on some occasions, animosity is READ INTO a person’s counter-response because the individual(s) who wrote an opposing comment seems to INVITE and EXPECT venomous and heated rebuttal because of inclusive words that do such.

            Here’s a great example: “I know I’m probably going to be called a troll for disagreeing…”; or “Since everyone here is a die-hard brainwashed Trump supporter, I know I am going to catch flack for what I’m about to say…” or “I’m almost afraid to express how I feel for fear of being openly criticized and attacked but here it goes…” I’ve seen it A LOT.

            We shouldn’t allow ourselves to feel so intimidated by those who may or only seem to be attacking our opinions. What helps me is to read through someone’s comments several times and of course to look for the obvious ALL CAPS, exclamation points, bold face, underlined, etc., that might indicate raised speech. But I also try to read it as if someone with a calm demeanor is speaking to me. THAT in and of itself really helps.

            So, while I agree that we can definitely use some improvement in the way we interact with each other, I also feel that taking the time to read someone’s words carefully can also help.

            Thanks for sharing

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            • carrierh says:

              Mark, we should be here not to be rubber stamps but thinking contributors as no one on this site should just accept that everything is right or wrong, but should at least clarify their statements. I expect this site to accept criticism as well because supposedly this is an OPEN FORUM and should be at least 98% of the time.

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          • Kaco says:

            I understand how you feel because I have been accused of the same on other topics. I’ve seen a couple who acted like flat out trolls. I don’t think you have. However, I am perplexed how you’ve somehow ignored all the Pres Trump has said tonight and still think he’s wrong.

            It seems the 10 commandments display at a courthouse is the thing that has locked in voters for Moore. I assumed that the 10 commandments display was an old historical one that people wanted to remove. I had no idea that Judge Moore had it installed which caused all the ruckus.

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            • Kaco, I appreciate you’re reaching out to me. I am a person who tends to think there are wheels within wheels and that following the money trail gets you to the heart of most matters. I am not interested in attacking Luther Strange, he may be our candidate & them I will support him wholeheartedly & hope for the best.

              When I first learned that DJT was running, I was starting from scratch. I don’t watch TV I hadn’t heard of the Apprentice or any of the other entertainment venues he has graced.
              My way of coming up to speed is to get data. I watched every rally. I listened to every political interview he had given from 1985 on, read articles on healthcare reform from 2003, articles from Atlantic City about getting eminent domain etc, and tried to look for flaws and inconsistencies. I found none. I believe to my bedrock that DJT is an honest straightforward man, who loves his country and is sacrificing to pay back for his opportunities and to create opportunities for all Americans. He is a scrupulously honest and faithful individual. I also think he bases his actions on carefully honed principles using The Art of War & his Dad’s advice (take the lumps out).

              That said I do not believe I will always know DJT’s plan from his words and actions. He likes to keep his cards close to his chest and not give away his strategy. He has told us that very thing many times. Therefore I believe I would be wrong to take everything at face value. I did the same due diligence with Luther Strange and found him to be a fairly typical politician. I have commented on some of the problems I see with him and the passion which McConnell supports him gets my hackles up, the lying campaign ads is another layer of the story. In Roy Moore I see someone who has sacrificed for his principles which is not the standard politician. I think he has the potential to disturb some sacred cows and drain the swamp. We are meant to make up our own minds by weighing & considering. Generally I just try & bring data to the table. I will be glad when this primary is done. Again thank you.

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              • svenwg says:

                Dear Growltiggerknits, the problem that I see with Judge Moore is the fact that he is dogmatic in his own mind to what is right, very similar to Rand Paul. At the present moment in time, President Trump needs people in the Senate that are 100% in agreement with his agenda. Moore cannot be 100% for anyone’s agenda but his own, which means that he will be an unknown character in the Senate and more than likely a maverick, which is the last type of person President Trump needs to drive his agenda.

                With the above in mind, it would be difficult to rely on Moore and in fact he may become a hinderance to MAGA!!!

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              • 1stgoblyn says:

                Read and learn, read and learn. I learn so much here at TCTH; like it is Mitch McConnell’s JOB to fund the campaigns of incumbent senators. I did not know that before reading it here. There goes the dims talking point (and may I say about the only negative the Moore supporters keep throwing out there) against Luther Strange. I don’t get to vote in AL, but if I did I now know I would vote for Big Luther.

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                • Things have been very heated & partisan. I was glad to have come across this video of President Trump’s words about two good candidates. In light of the way thing have been spun by both sides hearing things directly from our President is the gold standard.

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                • 1stgoblyn says:

                  I believe what he is saying here is that he is not perfect and he could be wrong just like any other human.

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            • elleb77 says:

              I actually think it’s Mitch McConnell’s endorsement of Strange that bothers most Moore supporters.

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          • guru1966 says:

            Thank you, growl, for expressing that fact. I’ve been amazed at the anger directed at me on this, my favorite go-to site every day.
            I tell my wife often that Sundance, whoever he is, is the smartest political mind that I have ever read. I was for Trump when being for Trump wasn’t cool. And yet, angry voices on this site have condemned me because of my preference in a PRIMARY in my own state. If I wasn’t so old and crotchety, I’d get my feelings hurt! 🙂

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    • somaspecialist says:

      https://www.rollcall.com/news/gonzales/rating-change-alabama-senate-moves-solid-gop#sthash.HKeiW4Lz.uxfs.

      If Moore wins, no guarantee he will beat the Democrat challenger. And the President said that in his speech today

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    • NC PATRIOT says:

      I think the voter turnout was fairly low in the first election.Moore has a committed following, many are very religious people. But, in a general election, against Democrats determined to take the seat, I think Moore would have a hard time attracting Independents and undeclared Dems who like P45. P45 is concerned about that, too.

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      • guru1966 says:

        Dude, we’re Alabama.
        We’d elect a cadaver if he has an “R” by his name.
        See Exhibit A: Richard Shelby
        There is zero chance of a Dem winning.
        As I stated a few days ago, Moore got more votes in the 9 or 10 man primary race than the entire democrat field got.
        No worries about a “D” senator in Alabama.

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    • deqwik2 says:

      There’s really not that many voting for him like it seems. The voter turnout was only 18% of the state. Moore’s base is fired up & showing up while 82% of the state stayed home.

      They have always said low turnout favors Moore & high turnout favors Strange.
      That is one reason Trump & Pence are visiting. They are trying to get voters fired up to go vote.

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  10. Sad day for the Treehouse when so many posters fail to appreciate that honest people can disagree on an issue without being enemies. If we weren’t supposed to think & question we wouldn’t have been given free will. Many of us post from the heart as we try and understand complex political situations. If we don’t have the orthodox view of the moment we are anathema. That is no way to encourage discourse & analysis.

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    • beachgrammie says:

      Sometimes the right thing to do is so clear you have to state it. This is a pro-Trump site. Thus it should be filled with pro-Trump supporters. You’d think.

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      • That I’m afraid is my point. One can be a Trump supporter and disagree with another Trump supporter on a particular issue. If we make the tent so small that there is no room for differences of opinion on minor matters we will fail.

        The beauty of Donald Trump is that he loves all people not just the brown, the black, the rich, the poor, the educated, the common. That is why people from all walks of life have risen up to embrace and cherish him. But here, supposedly in his name, I see people who I have agreed with over the years, enjoyed, sparred with, learned from and occasionally shared knowledge with, turn a very nuanced situation into the red line in the sand.

        People feel very strongly on both sides because they care. There may be people who are trying to divide and conquer Trump supporters. Why are Treehouse folks helping that process? Things get that way here from time to time but that doesn’t mean I like it or condone it. Reflection is a healthy thing as is humility. Some of the folks that are so dogmatic and intolerant would do better to seek the good in people instead of virtue signaling with attacks.

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        • Kaco says:

          We are at risk of losing a 52 majority Senate seat over a hard core right wing candidate that the Dems are waiting in the wings to take down. Many people in your state will flip for the Dem because they do not like the Judge. Our President went out of his way to beat it into everyone’s heads tonight and give the straight story about his choice. Luther Strange is a Christian and an Eagle Scout. I’d say he’s as honorable as the Judge so if you think the Judge is the only Christian choice I’d say you are wrong.

          I don’t agree with Pres Trump on some things either but it’s few. Removing Assad and sympathy for the DACA recipients are two of those. I won’t get into that but I’m sure it will come up again and I will be the “troll” on that because of my disagreement.

          But we are desperate to not only keep the seat, but also pass some legislation and I don’t see Moore being the one to sign off on Trump’s as opposed to loyal supporting Luther as stated by Pres Trump.

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          • dekester says:

            As a foreigner, and huge PDJT supporter.

            IMO. The hardcore right wing of the R party appears to be such a drag on progress.

            The principled Christians ( Cruz etc) are unelectable nationwide. If not downright toxic.

            Like it or not large portion of the voting public do not hold strong religious beliefs.

            Your President has been more true to the Christian ideals I believe in than any of those so called principled Christians in the R party.

            Incredible that PDJT received nearly ninety percent of the evangelical vote. Then there was the Black church leaders near Detroit giving him the warm reception. Franklin Graham, and others are staunch PDJT supporters.

            C’mon Alabama, support your Presidents choice. Surely you can do that for him.

            God bless PDJT

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        • boogywstew says:

          BINGO! “If we make the tent so small that there is no room for differences of opinion on minor matters we will fail.” Judge Moore’s tent has often been mistaken for a place mat.

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      • Guffman says:

        I support Trump 100%.
        But Strange is as swampy green and slime covered as McConnell. Trump is paying off a favour.
        That’s how many people see it, and it’s hardly the first time Trump has faked one way, only to turn the other. Art of the deal.

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      • nightmare on k st says:

        this is a MAGA site, long before and after Trump

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    • Deb says:

      Nope. Discourse, disagreements, debate are welcome here. But they must be civil. Many of the people here supporting Moore have been insulting, condescending, and downright rude to those who disagree. That’s the problem.

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    • Dennis Leonard says:

      Grow,I think your record needle is stuck in the same grove.You just say the same thing over and over again.And no I am not going to change my mind.

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    • Jenny R. says:

      Ok, this coming from someone who self-professes to be a troll and antisocial:
      I’m not a diehard Strange fan (and AL isn’t my state); I think the President can make mistakes.
      But…
      I’ve also checked into Roy Moore and find him, to be quite honest, shady. I don’t think he’d support the President, I think he’d be an embarrassment on many levels for many groups but the left would love him, and there are some things in his past that don’t add up to trustworthiness.
      I don’t even think he’s a true Christian.
      And even though I have to scour the internet for background on this guy except for some older stuff and coming from the left, which now is being very quiet about him for some reason (which is a bit of a red flag in and of itself), I can bring up material and it isn’t positive.
      So Luther Strange may be flawed, but still the pick of the litter.

      Now, you seem to like Moore — why? and, can you back this up with more than: he’s a good Christian man (give proof) and he’ll “drain the swamp” (again, proof please) or “Bannon/Palin/etc. endorse him, so MAGA truly and Trump has been deluded/fooled/etc.” (proof then that it isn’t the other way around please).

      I think that the Moore suppoters need to actually come out with good reasons why their guy can win and most importantly: how he will be good for his state and the country as a senator.

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      • Jenny, thank you for your thoughtful comment. I will try and answer your question as it applies to my own take. I like Moore for a few reasons. He has stood by his principles even though it cost him his job and had political consequences. His stand on gay marriage was important to me most of all because I do not believe the Federal Government should be regulating marriage law, that is left to the States. Moore made the point that the Justices were to obey Alabama’s State law. I think the liberals are playing a fast one in many arenas by using the more liberal courts to legislate what couldn’t be passed in individual communities. I think his comment that marriage has been an institution defined one way for millennia and that it was inappropriate for the court to decide that for an entire Nation resonates with me.

        I want to shrink the Government and that is one of Moore’s focuses. He is stronger on immigration than Strange who has 16% of a business interest build on obtaining Visas.

        Seeing the two at the debate I was impressed with Moore much more so than Strange. Moore would be much better in a foxhole. Strange’s actions as a lobbyist, and in some of his AG actions and in actions tell me his honor is for sale or at the least his self interest allows him to make questionable decisions. (Bennet & a pollution case against a coal company, come to mind).

        I have some reservations about Moore. He seems to take his own path, putting up the monument to the 10 Commandments without input from the other justices, according to one report. That can be good it can be bad and I don’t have enough personal knowledge to be sure in his case. I think that his morality based system of values is a personal asset and will play well in Alabama but he will need to de-emphasise his beliefs on homosexual behavior and America’s fall from good if he doesn’t want to be successfully pilloried by the press. He’s not afraid of the fight but I wouldn’t want the blow back to weaken POTUS.

        I think he is an intelligent man and will bring that and his plain speech to the fight for solutions to our problems in : immigration, healthcare, against DACA and for returning power to the states. Any such ambitions on Luther Strange’s part are much more mutable either new minted for this election cycle or evolving rapidly.

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        • Plain Jane says:

          If we weren’t in the fight of the century for our republic, you made valid points. Unfortunately, at this point our country is too far gone to be concerned with some of those issues. Jesus cured people before He preached to them.

          When I did Christian Sidewalk Counseling, I didn’t go up to the mother and tell her she will be a killer if she has an abortion. I showed her His compassion and offered help.
          When I was a post abortion healing consultant, I didn’t start the conversation by telling mom or dad they were killers. I honestly see Moore’s actions as “in you face,” and really think he will be “my way or no way.”

          I am a Christian from birth, I believe God gave us the Ten Commandments to help us be happy and in control of our thoughts, words and deeds, and to show us how to honor Him. Unfortunately, to many now, at best, the posting of them is paramount to art and even an “in your face” interpreted grandstanding.

          Some Christians are not picking their battles wisely and turn off people who know they are sinners but want to come back into the fold.

          School prayer is another source of confrontation. Many people who are too young to remember school prayer are turned off by Christians fighting for public prayer because they instinctively know that no one can stop private prayer even under threat of the gallows.

          The country is not ready for Moore. We need PT’s agenda and someone who will work with him on MAGA.

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    • singingsoul says:

      growltiggerknits
      “Sad day for the Treehouse when so many posters fail to appreciate that honest people can disagree on an issue without being enemies. ”
      _____________________________________
      What is sad that people like Bannon Gorka and Palin and the never Trumpers are succeeding splitting the Trump base for their own ideological agenda that is not in the best interest of the US and its people.
      Moore is using them for his benefit and they use him for their agenda and bud hurt feelings. POTUS thinks of America First and that is why he supports Strange. POTUS gives so much and people behave like spoiled brats.

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      • I’m sorry you see it that way. Life is messy and people just won’t stay in their boxes. This is a small election for a year in the senate. We will have a Republican who professes to support MAGA either way. We have preferences, some very strong but not worth the level of angst this is stirring up. POTUS gave his support for his own reasons some of which he shared. He says both are good men but thinks it would be easier to keep the seat with Strange. He will abide by the people of Alabama’s will and fight for the candidate they select. Why isn’t that good enough?

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  11. indiamaria2020 says:

    Boy, this sure makes PALIN look foolish and outdated. She is fighting 2009 battles, and hasn’t upgraded her operating system. This is now The Trump Era, and she is still campaigning against Obama. It is painful to watch, since I have loved Palin’s spunk, but the things she is campaigning on in Alabama are pathetically irrelevant and silly.

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    • beachgrammie says:

      Hate to say it, but she was acting a bit raggedy when she endorsed Trump and thereafter. Really pretty off. I was shocked at the time.

      I was not surprised she did not speak more often.

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    • Betty says:

      Didn’t Sarah Palin campaign for president Trump not all that long ago?

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      • Guffman says:

        Palin and Trump are good friends, just as Trump is with Bannon and Gorka. They’re still all very vocal in their unwavering support for Trump, but not Strange. Think about that people. There’s more going on here than many people are understanding.

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        • treehouseron says:

          I didn’t vote for Bannon or Gorka and frankly don’t care who they’re endorsing. I voted for President Trump, and he clearly, enthusiastically endorsed Strange, and gave many reasons for why that happened. He also said the claims that Strange is buddy buddy with McConnell are bullshit.

          Seems clear cut to me.

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        • auntiefran413 says:

          You nailed me, Guffman. I’ve been having computer trouble today and have just now (11:15 PM CDT) gotten to TCH. Unfortunately, I missed Trump’s Savage endorsement but am watching it right now. I’ve been wondering who was I wrong about? Trump? Moore? If I was wrong about PDJT, my heart will be broken If I’m wrong about Moore, it wouldn’t be the first time I was wrong about a politician.
          When you said ” There’s more going on here than many people are understanding.” you found me. I’m certainly one of those “many people”.

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    • Ivehadit says:

      How many people showed up at Union Station last night to see Sarah Palin? I heard only 200.

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    • soozword says:

      I always thought she was a bit politically schizo with supporting McShame since the 2008 election as well as a few other dubious characters. Usually that unsteady characteristic is due to money influence and I wouldn’t put it past her to be bribed. I really like her spunky personality willing to challenge the left’s positions, but I don’t trust her on endorsements. I feel the same with Newt Gingrich who is more erudite in his statements but has questionable motives/judgment as to candidates.

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  12. scott467 says:

    I have a question.

    They just said on TV that Luther Strange has been in the U.S. Senate since February.

    When unanimous consent was required by the Republican majority in the Senate to change the rules to prevent President Trump from making recess appointments, did Luther Strange vote with Mitch McConnell to prevent the sitting Republican president from making recess appointments?

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    • beachgrammie says:

      Well, Scott, why don’t you research that and let us know?

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      • Betty says:

        I know. He voted with McConnell as did all the other obstructionist senators

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        • POP says:

          Surely, not our man Luther!?

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        • georgiafl says:

          Luther Strange voted with President Trump 91.5% of the time, but probably did NOT want Trump to replace Jeff Sessions. He may not have felt it would be good for Trump’s Presidency either.

          Whatever the reason, obviously, President Trump has a good relationship/understanding with Luther Strange.

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          • POP says:

            Luther didn’t vote for the most important Trump supporting vote since November 2016.
            And he knows it. One vote kills it.
            For reasons unknown to us who would rate Luther as swamp, PTrump goes with Mitch’s pick. That’s always anti Trump.

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      • scott467 says:

        “Well, Scott, why don’t you research that and let us know?”

        _____________

        LOL!

        Well, if unanimous consent was required in order to make the rule change, and Luther Strange was in the Senate at that time, and the rule change was in fact made, then I think the answer becomes self-evident 😉

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    • billygoat65 says:

      It was unanimous. What’s your point?

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      • scott467 says:

        “It was unanimous. What’s your point?”

        _________

        Thank you for playing along 🙂

        Just before the August recess, the Republi-Con majority made a rule change to prevent DJT — the president of their own party — from making recess appointments while Congress was out of town plotting his destruction.

        Unanimous Republi-Con consent was required. Any ONE Republi-Con Senator could have objected and the rule change would have failed, and DJT (the Republi-Con’s own party president…) would have been able to fill out his administration by recess appointments — recess appointments which the Republi-Con majority has slow-rolled and blocked since January.

        Not one good man in the Senate stood up against the globalist establishment NeverTrump McConnell cabal. It would only have taken ONE good man to object, and not one good man was found.

        That ‘unanimous consent’ by the Republi-Con Majority to block the Republican president of the United States was the definitive moment which proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

        Luther Strange could have stood up for his own party’s president, the same president he was counting on to support him in his upcoming election.

        Luther Strange chose not to do so. Luther Strange chose to vote with Swamp Monster McConnell, to stab the president in the back, to prevent the president from filling out his administration.

        Would Roy Moore have done the same?

        I don’t know.

        We only know that Luther Strange did.

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        • NC PATRIOT says:

          Don’t forget, that was right in the middle of P45’s dispute with Sessions–and some were afraid he would dismiss Sessions and make a recess appointment to replace him.

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        • POP says:

          Indeed.
          The depth of dislike and disruption of the Trump agenda by the Republican Senators is beyond belief.
          Their existential fear of being threatened by a nationalist non globalist non crony Statist is palpable.
          They should be scared.

          Undeniably Luther is just another anti Trump Uniparty vote in the Senate.
          President Trump’s support of Luther speaks of things we don’t know.
          Moore is the Republican outlaw.
          PTrump should recognise that species well.

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        • Tonawanda says:

          So you are saying Trump is a swamp creature by endorsing Strange?

          Does it make sense for Trump supporters to be more offended than Trump himself, or is it possible Trump knows what he is doing?

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          • scott467 says:

            “So you are saying Trump is a swamp creature by endorsing Strange?”

            ________

            Certainly not!

            I’m saying that I don’t know what DJT’s motives are. I don’t know if he made some kind of deal with McConnell, that he would support Strange in exchange for something from McConnell, knowing that his base would never vote for Luther anyway.

            That is a definite byproduct of the 3D chess Trump plays, nobody knows what he is doing or why, and that includes us.

            A necessary corollary to that is that in order for things to work, DJT has to count on his supporters to think for THEMSELVES, rather than be BLIND FOLLOWERS.

            There are a lot of people who seem ready to abdicate responsibility to think things through (and question…) and just “trust Trump”.

            If Trump is counting on his supporters to NOT be lemmings, if he is giving us more credit than that, more credit than some of us are giving ourselves, how is that going to work out for Trump’s plans?

            I truly don’t understand the ‘close your eyes, trust Trump and hang on for the ride’ approach. I don’t think that’s what he wants, I don’t think it is wise in the least, and historically speaking, it’s positively dangerous.

            Isn’t that how we got in this whole mess in the first place?

            If we keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result…

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            • scott467 says:

              In other words, I trust DJT’s motives and intentions are good, but he’s not omniscient and infallible.

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            • Tonawanda says:

              I respect and understand what you are saying.

              I think we are in an extremely rare historical circumstance where our lack of knowledge means we should trust one person, Trump.

              I never felt that way, not even with Reagan.

              And Trump explicitly tells us what he is doing, if we have the ears to hear.

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      The Senate hasn’t officially recessed long enough to permit recess appointments. Just the August break showed a pro forma gaveling in/out daily.

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    • treehouseron says:

      This is the most ludicirious comment that’s been posted all night. In your fantasy world, you feel Moore would have stood up! He would have stood up, and been the only guy in the Senate to VOTE FOR TRUMP’S ABILITY TO MAKE RECESS APPOINTMENTS!!!

      So in your mind, this hypothetical would have meant something, because of PRINCIPLE!

      That strict adherence to principle is why you’re going to lose Tuesday’s election. Of course you’ll never understand that nuance, you’re probably still donating to Cruz’s campaign.

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      • scott467 says:

        “This is the most ludicirious comment that’s been posted all night. In your fantasy world, you feel Moore would have stood up! He would have stood up, and been the only guy in the Senate to VOTE FOR TRUMP’S ABILITY TO MAKE RECESS APPOINTMENTS!!!”

        ___________

        I can’t tell at this point whether your response is to me or not. But I hope it is to me, because I want that “Most Ludicrous Comment” Trophy BAD!!! 🙂

        In MY fantasy world, I don’t know if Moore would have stood up, which is precisely what I said: “Would Roy Moore have done the same? I don’t know.”

        And in a rules change situation, where UNANIMOUS CONSENT was required in order for the rules change to take effect, then being the one and only guy is all that was needed to block the rule change — in which case, DJT would have been able to make recess appointments.

        That’s the whole point. In this situation, unanimous consent was REQUIRED, so it would only take ONE PERSON to refuse, to block McConnell’s rule change to block Trump from making recess appointments.

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        • So, refresh my memory again. How many R Senators are now (and were) sitting for this vote? Oh yea, that would be 52, right? Is busTED one of them? Mike Lee? Etc. This is a stupid argument! Moore wasn’t there, so what he may or may not have done is completely irrelevant. What he may do in the future is completely relevant. For whatever reason (all of which we don’t know) PDJT trusts Strange above Moore. That’s what PDJT was saying. Everything else, as someone well known in these parts has said, …”is chaff.”

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          • scott467 says:

            “So, refresh my memory again. How many R Senators are now (and were) sitting for this vote? Oh yea, that would be 52, right? Is busTED one of them? Mike Lee? Etc. This is a stupid argument! Moore wasn’t there, so what he may or may not have done is completely irrelevant. ”

            _____________

            Agreed, I was just responding to a reply to an earlier comment of mine, and out of context, your comment is certainly applicable.

            Here is the original segment of my earlier post being referred to:

            ………………………
            “Luther Strange could have stood up for his own party’s president, the same president he was counting on to support him in his upcoming election.

            Luther Strange chose not to do so. Luther Strange chose to vote with Swamp Monster McConnell, to stab the president in the back, to prevent the president from filling out his administration.

            Would Roy Moore have done the same?

            I don’t know.

            We only know that Luther Strange did.”
            ………………………

            The point being, we cannot know what Roy Moore would have done in the same situation, maybe he is a Swamper, or maybe he would have been the one man to stand up to the others, thereby preserving DJT’s ability to make recess appointments.

            But what we do know is that Luther Strange did NOT stand up to the others, he voted with the Swamp to prevent DJT from making recess appointments.

            Luther Strange, all by himself (or any other single Senator) could have stopped McConnell and preserved DJT’s ability to fire the rest of the Hussein holdovers and fill out the rest of his administration with recess appointments.

            He didn’t.

            We don’t know what Moore would have done.

            But we do know what Strange would have done, and did.

            And what he did was not to help DJT, but to block him.

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    • For all you know, Trump didn’t want any of his people to be appointed with recess appointments and didn’t care. Think about it. That is all we would hear about and those individuals (right or wrong) would bear the line in history that said the didn’t get confirmed by Congress. Trump is keeping his people clean and has never spoken about this. Why would it concern me if it doesn’t concern him.

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  13. Miles Rost says:

    One of my closest friends turned around the campaign in Michigan for Trump and got us a win there. He and I talked recently about this race, and he told me that a lot of the McConnell talk was a bunch of bull. I quote: “McConnell doesn’t support Strange. He and Senate Leadership gave him money because he’s an incumbent, out of obligation. They really want to see a Democrat win, however.”

    I trust what my friend says, as he knows many of the players up on Capitol Hill.

    I don’t live in Alabama, but I trust what my friend says, and I trust the President. I do not believe in dominionism, and I do not believe in Roy Moore as a credible Senate candidate.

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    • Deb says:

      I’ve seen it floated that Moore is a Splitter candidate, meant to split the conservative vote and cause rancor within the party to help the Dem win. We live in such strange times, this actually seems plausible.

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      • The situation is a mess, that is for sure. I know who I don’t trust & that’s McConnell. If he threw $$$30 million in on Strange’s campaign and he is doing that to promote the Democratic candidate winning its a whole new level of depravity. I hope which ever candidate wins the primary the Alabama Republicans come together & come out in force on election day. Too many of these special elections have 30% turnout or less.

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      • Joyful Noise says:

        This seems like a plausible idea. Trump himself said he is risking his reputation with his endorsement of Strange. Tricky business. The MSM will jump on this stinky situation like a wasp on a trap. Trump’s explanation is good enough for me. Strange doesn’t need wining and dining or enticements to support the president’s agenda. I don’t live in Alabama. All I can do at this point is toss in some popcorn and watch.

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    • beachgrammie says:

      Moore, Palin, Bannon, Gorka et al have been getting what they want — attention.

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    • treehouseron says:

      Miles, exactly. These people that complain about Strange, their ONLY COMPLAINT is that McConnell donated to his campaign. That’s their only dirt on him, that his boss gave him money to get re elected, like he does every member of the Senate, like he did Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, blah blah blah.

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    • Kaco says:

      You know, we’ve all suspected that the Republicans would love to be the minority party again so they can just pretend again. They are such dirty rats, I wouldn’t put it past them. All the more reason why Pres Trump felt he had to go to Alabama to campaign to keep his guy in there.

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    • deqwik2 says:

      TY for that because what I see inside Alabama is a BIG effort by state politicians to get Strange out & they are backing Moore. These are the same people who don’t like Moore. I wondered if they had a plan to let Moore win & then get him recalled because nothing was making sense. When they ran Mo Brooks I knew something was cooking but thought it was the Cruz crowd trying to get into power.
      Now I’m hearing lots of talk about GOP crossing over to vote Dem.
      What I see on the ground sounds just like what your friend said.

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  14. POP says:

    Strange must now be favourite of course, but what will it mean IF Moore wins by 6 points?
    Interesting times.

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  15. Ivehadit says:

    Yes, the globalists would love nothing more than to have Trump’s guy lose and a democrat take over Alabama. They hate Alabama. There is a lot going on in this race from many different factions seeking power, imho.
    And I know for a fact that many Strange voters would rather walk on hot coals than vote for Moore in the general. They dislike him that much.

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  16. Betty says:

    I like Sarah Palin. And Sebastian Gorman. They have both been through the wringer in politics. I especially like Ben Carson.

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  17. Betty says:

    Gorka🐱

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  18. rsmith1776 says:

    I’ve watched the entire long rally.

    President Trump put a lot of passion and sincerity in his defense and promotion of Mr. Strange. He convinced me.

    At this stage, it feels a lot that the primary opponent, while exhibiting some qualities, is of the grumpy/repressed/constipated Cruz type.

    I cheerfully choose to trust the President’s instincts and judgment, and to stand with him.

    That’s all, folks.

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      Trump’s reasoning (which I heard before the rally) is what convinced me to move from Moore to Strange.

      I like Moore as a respected jurist, a defender of the First Amendment in its true meaning, and a valiant fighter for the sacred LEGAL role of the Decalogue, which as a legal entity is foundational to our Constitution, and has every right to be displayed by government. I admire him IMMENSELY. But he is not the man for this job. Big Luther is.

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    • mdt123 says:

      Constipated Cruz..that might stick

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    • mdt123 says:

      would like to see Big Luther and Little Marco together in a pic if there is one

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  19. georgiafl says:

    Alabama voters – please do your own research and not listen to stories.

    Put the accomplishments of the two men together, check out their voting records, achievements and respect for the law.

    Vote for the one who most fully supports what you believe and will support the policies and promises of President Trump.

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  20. MAGAbear says:

    The thing that’s a shame when it comes to elections is the seeming need to demean one candidate in order to apparently bolster the other candidate. I’m for Moore in this contest, but frankly Strange is probably better than 80% of the other current GOP senators. I feel no need to tear down Strange in order to support Moore, nor would I think it necessary if it were the other way around. Used to be a day when you cheered “go team go”, now it has to be “you suck”!

    Putting my political prognosticater hat on (and I’m usually pretty good at this), Tuesday nights result will be 57% Moore, 43% Strange. Place your bets! 🙂

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  21. This is what I worry about with Moore … more losing:

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  22. Gadsen says:

    Insightful observations growltiggerknits ! I agree 100 percent guffman. A little research on Strange will reveal his swampiness. Corporate lobbyist, backroom dealer. His “Appointment ” by Gov. Bentley stinks to high heaven.
    Trump said himself he might have made a big mistake endorsing Strange and that if Moore wins he will campaign “like hell for him”

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    • paulraven1 says:

      “Trump said himself he might have made a big mistake endorsing Strange”

      Such a mistake that he just held a rally for him.

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    • Kaco says:

      He would mean that in if he still loses. He didn’t deny Luther’s loyalty.

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    • backwoodsgirl123 says:

      Excuse ME!

      “Trump said himself he might have made a big mistake endorsing Strange and that if Moore wins he will campaign “like hell for him””

      But you’re coming over here spouting BB’s lies. Did you even watch the rally?

      You and BB left a lot of info out of Trump’s comment on that “big mistake”. It had nothing to do with poor judgment and everything to do with the fact that if Strange doesn’t win, then the Never Trumpers and the fake media will throw it up in his face! AND THAT’s all!

      Making a partial quote like you and Breitbart did is dishonest at best and misleading to the nth degree!

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      • Breitbart is notorious for misquoting people to justified their narrative, no difference than the mainstream media they slam!

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        • paulraven1 says:

          Breitbart has become a kind of monster, a mutation. I always felt that the spirit of Andrew was something few understood. This may be the case throughout history with all great men who are also good men. The goodness is individualized and generally impossible to replicate. The “greatness:, the ideas, can be represented, but without the goodness that was inseparably a part of them as in Andrew’s case, we are left only with egos and their agendas and the havoc they wreak on the legacy. It was the case even in the immediate aftermath of his death with all the stupid and arrogant proclamations “I Am Breitbart.” No, you you are not, and you should know you are not, and go from there. And many people mistook Andrew’s mock and joyful belligerence for actual meanness. Andrew is gone, gone, gone, and this big, greasy, grinding thing with his name on it is not him at all.

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          • Eskyman says:

            Well said, and sadly true. Breitbart the man is not well represented by the organization now bearing his name.

            Remember just before his untimely death, Andrew Breitbart had talked about the imminent release of something “really big” that was going to shock the world when it was revealed; somehow that never happened, and nothing at all was ever revealed.

            I thought at the time, and still do think, that whatever that was it was smothered. Sat upon. Not allowed to see the light of day. Someone in the Breitbart organization must have known what this unrevealed blockbuster was, but chose not to show it. When I’m “conspiracy-minded,” I think that Andrew’s death wasn’t due to a heart attack, and that it served as a warning to whoever held that evidence that revealing it wouldn’t be healthy.

            Lately, like most here I have been unhappy with Breitbart’s coverage for a number of reasons. Drudge as well; I look over their headlines every day, but seldom click on a link. In Drudge’s case that’s because most links go to leftie sites such as NYT, WaPo, or WSJ (behind a paywall.) In Breitbart’s case, it’s mostly because the headline gives their bias away, and I find no reason to read further. I’d rather just get the news; opinion I can supply all by myself.

            Having said all that, I find it extremely sad in the way that so many here are acting. Too much of: our way or the highway. No opinions are allowed except the Authorized Official Opinions. Our candidate can do no wrong, and has never ever been wrong. Opinions which do not conform are to be stamped out with extreme prejudice, with name calling and lots of virtue signaling. Now who does all this remind me of? Well, it sure isn’t conservatives. It’s more like that Berkeley bunch with masks & clubs!

            That’s not the Treehouse I’ve been coming to for so many years, and it’s demoralizing. It’s even more discouraging than the possibility of President Trump making a mistake, as it looks like he did with his AG pick, Jeff Sessions. I’m still waiting for my opinion of him to be wrong- or has he now started indicting felons like Comey, Clapper, Lois Lerner,… yeah, I didn’t think so. Looks to me like Sessions is just another swamp creature.

            I sure hope that Strange is a better pick than Sessions.

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            • backwoodsgirl123 says:

              I totally agree with you on Sessions. However, I do believe the majority of Trump supporters are really irritated with him because we thought he would be a real fighter and that he would be a “righteous attack dog” against HIllary and all of the corruption and it turns out, he’s not.

              Oh, he’s going after the illegals selling drugs, but I’m not seeing a whole lot of anything else.

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            • Mia C says:

              You make great points on Sessions. I haven’t been a regular long enough to assess your other points.
              –But I enjoy this site for it’s understanding of what a true change agent Trump is. This was the first site to see his true potential and I really believe he’s living up to it and that with our support he can continue to make gains.

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      • georgiafl says:

        ^^^^THIS!!!^^^

        Breitbart is losing credibility like National Review has done.

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        • backwoodsgirl123 says:

          Well, BB has lost ALL credibility where I’m concerned. I’ve called them out several times on their “fake news” and bias against Trump.

          The last time I was on BB, I told them that they would become a dwelling place for jackals and hyenas.

          Psychological WARFARE is what they are participating in. For the most part, they don’t blast Trump and still try to play it that they support Trump, BUT…. and then they undermine just about everything he says and does and everybody he supports. I honestly wonder sometimes if there isn’t a CIA operative on staff telling them how to go about tearing down Trump’s support!

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          • georgiafl says:

            Ted Cruz hired an ex-CIA misinformation dissemination specialist in his campaign – and the dirtiest tactic campaign manager he could find.

            Breitbart is not above using data and PSY-OPS to achieve their goals either.

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            • backwoodsgirl123 says:

              I’m glad I’m not the only one that realizes that! Come 2018, we’ve got some Senators up for election. The fight will be fierce if we have to fight MSM and BB too!

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  23. All I know Judge Moore has a very strong Christian base look at his voting results.

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  24. Eskyman says:

    Enjoyed watching the speech, it’s always great to hear President Donald J. Trump blowing the lid off at a rally. I sure wish he had time to do more of those!

    I’ve now read the last couple of pages of comments here- and I am surprised and saddened to find such anger & discord, here at the Treehouse. Some good Trump supporters are being called “Cruzbots” and worse, merely for questioning the choice of Luther Strange (or should I say, the Strange choice of Luther? LOL.)

    Well, I’m no supporter of Lyin’ Ted, the natural born Canadian; but I am a supporter of Judge Roy Moore. I just don’t trust the RNC, I don’t trust Turtle McConnell, and I don’t trust AG Jeff Sessions- as a matter of fact, the only person I do trust in our government right now is President Trump!

    Much as I trust the President, I fear that he may have received some bad advice or some incorrect data. It’s hard to make a correct decision if the facts you’ve been given are incorrect. I don’t know what facts PDJT has, I’m not privy to the advice he gets, nor do I know who gives that advice to him.

    What I DO know is: in tonight’s great speech there wasn’t one mention of DACA. Not one mention of Dreamers. Not one mention of Amnesty. This is alarming. This worries me.

    What I DO know about AG Jeff Sessions is: he isn’t prosecuting ANY of the felons we all know about, he isn’t shutting down the witch-hunt into the “Russian Collusion” nothingburger, and he apparently has NO interest in Draining the Swamp, building the Wall, or kicking illegals out of the country. This also alarms and worries me, and apparently it does President Trump as well. That’s one pick that hasn’t turned out as he (and I) had hoped.

    Yeah, I’m glad our President spoke out against the jerks ruining football- but compared to these other matters it’s pretty low on the Richter scale to me. If we allow amnesty, it won’t be that long before “football” is played with a round black & white ball, and our country will be only a memory.

    If I lived in Alabama I’d be voting for Judge Roy Moore. I’m a Christian. This country once was a Christian country, and we used to have the Ten Commandments in all our courthouses (it’s been written out of history, but Moses and the 10 Commandments are even inside the Supreme Court- though now they’ve been renamed. I guess Moses carried the Bill of Rights with him; who knew?) Most here probably know that each formal session of each House of the Congress opens with a prayer, and has done since the beginning.

    Although I’d rather see Judge Moore in the office, I do accept that President Trump has endorsed Luther Strange. I trust the President, but I do hope that he “remembers who brung him to the dance” and that his choice does, after all, help to Make America Great Again!

    Apologies to the hard-working mods, who have to clean up the firebombs being thrown here; I hope my inflammatory remarks don’t attract too much venom.

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    • Careful some here may be looking for your scalp.

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    • treehouseron says:

      So you know better than the President, because he got “bad advice”.

      BTW, when are YOU running for President? A man so much more knowledgeable than Donald Trump ought to be a shoe in! Can’t wait to vote for you.

      Please respond with all the other evidence you have of the president being a moron, it was a delightful read.

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      • auntiefran413 says:

        I’ve been reading ALL of these comments and understand that many have been remove3d by our moderators (thank you!),. Yours is the first truly MEAN one I’ve seen.

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    • backwoodsgirl123 says:

      “Much as I trust the President, I fear that he may have received some bad advice or some incorrect data.”

      That’s BB propaganda! And that’s all they have done since Trump won! That’s all they are good for these days is to undermine Trump!

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    • georgiafl says:

      “has NO interest in Draining the Swamp, building the Wall, or kicking illegals out of the country.”

      Not true at all.

      NOT ONE BIT.

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      • Eskyman says:

        Glad to hear it!

        Please share a link demonstrating AG Sessions prosecuting felons (Eric Holder, Lois Lerner, there are lots to choose from,) or helping get the Wall built?

        Near as I can tell, he’s just sleeping in his office, but if he’s doing some good stuff I’d love to know about it. I haven’t noticed the NYT or WaPo shrieking about all the “terrible things” he’s doing- if they were, I’d feel a lot better about him!

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        • georgiafl says:

          Prosecutors do not advertise stings, broadcast ongoing investigations.

          Convicting and incarcerating crooks AIN’T a spectator sport!!!

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          • Eskyman says:

            OK, so “no news is good news.”

            That’s pretty thin gruel, and the flavor’s awfully bland. Not very sustaining, but it seems to be all we have; so it’ll have to do.

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  25. Miles Rost says:

    From Leigh Scott. Read this and see what you think:

    “Folks are asking me about Trump’s endorsement in Alabama. Let’s game it out.

    First of all, this isn’t an ideal situation. Luther Strange may be Establishment, but he’s been a loyal voter for the Trump agenda. So in terms of support for what he wants to get done, both Strange and Moore will go along. Trump can’t lose on that front.

    So why did he get involved?

    The biggest obstruction to the American agenda is the GOP. We should be enjoying 10% taxes, free market health care and sipping tea while watching the wall being built right now. But the GOP Establishment hates Trump just as much, if not more than the Democrats.

    In 2018, there are 34 Senators that face re-election. 25 are Democrats (LOL, y’all are screwed). That means there are only nine seats that the GOP has to defend.

    That means that are are 43 current GOP Senators that are there now that Trump will have to deal with until 2020. A mix of Establishment losers and solid Americans. Trump STILL has to work with them all. So he has to play nice with the McConnell cabal until they can all be replaced.

    Of the nine up for re-election, you have some that are loyal to the agenda like Cruz, Barasso, Hatch, Wicker, Fisher, and Strange.

    And you have three tools that Trump is already actively campaigning against: Flake, Heller, and Corker.

    So, yes, the grassroots wants Judge Moore to win. Carson, Palin, Bannon etc. are all in on Moore. But it’s a risky move for Trump to support him. If he loses, it would be spun that Trump’s support isn’t meaningful or even harmful, which will push more Establishment GOP away from Trump and his agenda, believing the left wing media hype that Trump is nuclear. Tremendous downside in doing this.

    If Strange loses, Trump gets to say that he tried to support him, BUT, it’s the GOP Establishment brand which is toxic. The Trump grassroots is too powerful and the only thing the GOPe can do is move closer to Trump to protect themselves in 2020.

    Remember, the only goal of politicians is to be re-elected. They really don’t care about you or any agenda. Just their own asses. Trump knows this and is using it for his own advantage.

    Trump wins no matter what legislatively, both will support what he wants. But in terms of dealing with the GOP that is not up for re-election, Trump made the smart move.

    Strange wins, Trump can say he helped the Establishment and his endorsement has value. Strange loses and Trump pins it on the Establishment brand.

    “Minimize the downside, let the upside take care of itself.”-The Art of the Deal, Donald Trump, 1987

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    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      Except that it would have been meaningless to endorse Strange so strongly if it didn’t matter either way. Vote Big Luther, because as Trump said, it’s going to be embarassing. Moore cannot even debate worth a nickel. Jones will sweep the floor with Moore. Luther Strange was very kind to Moore in the debate.

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    • auntiefran413 says:

      Miles, this is the first post I’ve read — and I’ve read them all up to this point — that has made sense to me regarding Trump’s endorsement of Strange. I am truly grateful for your concise explsnsytion.

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    • Kaco says:

      Why would you lose a sure Trump agenda vote to play games with the GOPe? Pres Trump is going out of his way to keep this vote for his legislation in the Senate.

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    • CleanhouseinDC says:

      Will Moore actually give POTUS the support he needs should he win, considering that POTUS is supporting Moore’s competitor?

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    • This is what I would have said, so I will not repeat it. Mr. Trump is not a God. He is, however, a man of his word and he gave his word to Mr. Strange. That’s how I see it concerning that. As far as I am concerned Mr. McConnell is playing games with this election and the so-called “repeal” bill in the Senate now. He has no intention of going against his puppet-master Mr. Donahue. You know that. I know that. We will be OK, I think if Mr. Strange is elected, but, I also think we would be better with Mr. Moore. That’s my gut feeling.

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      • georgiafl says:

        “Mr. McConnell is playing games with this election and the so-called “repeal” bill in the Senate now. He has no intention of going against his puppet-master Mr. Donahue.”

        But McConnell doesn’t control Luther Strange. That is the Trump-loving Truth.

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        • Luther Strange doesn’t strike me as a tiger or as someone who would buck Mitch when the going got tough, Georgia.

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        • “McConnell doesn’t control Luther Strange”

          You sure about that? From what I’ve read, Mr. Strange played games to get appointed to the Senate to begin with. Once a player, always a player, I would think.

          However, I will be happy with either of them. I just hope we aren’t getting played here. Washington is full of players. Good men go there and get some sort of sickness that turns them into mush, easily controlled by the establishment. I’ve seen it too may times. Remember when Mr. Graham was supposed to be Mr. Conservative? I do. There have been many others. DCitis is highly contagious.

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  26. treehouseron says:

    So it’s boiled down to, the only evidence Moore supporters have for why you should vote for Moore, is “becuz Pres Trump is a Moron and doesn’t know Strange is a liar!”

    Literally their only attack against Strange, is that McConnell gave him money.

    Their entire opposition to him is presupposed on the idea that President Trump is too stupid to tell Strange (who he’s met, judged the character of, and has a personal relationship with)… President Trump is too stupid to tell that Strange is screwing him.

    I’m so glad I don’t live in a world where that’s a hard thing to figure out for me.

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    • MAGAbear says:

      Are you serious?

      Most I’ve read here support Moore because they like him and like Trump. Because many of us support Moore doesn’t diminish in the least our support of Trump. Why would it?

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      • guru1966 says:

        Trump agrees with us, MAGAbear:

        “I told Luther, and I have to say this, if his opponent wins, I’m going to be here campaigning like hell for him,” Trump said.

        Trump said both Moore and Strange are “good men,”

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        • Kaco says:

          Is that all you heard tonight? He knows that Moore is still ahead, he might have to campaign for him but it will be a hard win against the Dem. Why would he say something damaging about Moore in case? He pled his case to please vote for Strange.

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    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      Most of the Moore advocates neither know Roy Moore nor Cool Luther very well. They’re just running on the daily pablum, nay, quarterly reports every mid-day and then rearranged with a different sneaky headline in the evening because Trump’s staff have called it a work day, and fed to them by Breitbart feeders like Cernovich et all. They haven’t a clue who Roy Moore really is. Nor Luther Strange. They just know the boogey man BB paints.

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      • I think you’d be surprised. Some of the people who disagree with you have done their research, have logical reasons for their beliefs and are not relying on BB. Since the election BB has been a very poor place for news or unbiased opinion pieces and most treepers know that.
        Honest and sincere people can still disagree since a lot hinges on interpretation and point of view. Sometimes when I believe something passionately I also have trouble accepting folks that don’t see the same thing I do but sometimes if I listen they tell me their reasons. I may not agree even then, but we respect each other and often me agree better another day on a different topic.

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      • They don’t live in Alabama They don’t know Moore can’t handle money and organization. They don’t know how many lawsuits Strange has won for us. They don’t know how important Strange’s contacts in business and industry are to us keeping our jobs and getting more. They don’t know that many Christians are appalled by Moore. They don’t live with stigma of how he makes up the law as he goes along.

        People need jobs. We have industry on the brink of breaking loose and Moore can’t even run a courthouse on a budget. But yeah…they can try to influence us. Go ahead. We Alabamans will be the ones to suffer and they don’t care.

        I’m not talking about this topic myself anymore. Eager for Tuesday to be in the past so these people go away and regular treepers return to normal. I suspect, however, that many are tainted by the Bannon/Breitbart stuff and will keep bring it in.

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    • The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, sir. 8 million dollars from McConnell’s PAC? Sounds like a lot of influence to me, sir. What does he expect for that 8 mil? Hmmmm? That’s what makes me somewhat suspicious. Can Mr. trump save Mr. Strange if the Elites decide to make his life Hell? Well, can he?

      The heart and souls of men are being bought and paid for in DC every day. As it has been said: There are Trillions at stake. 8 million is nothing to these people.

      But, as I said, I’ll be happy with either, but happier with Mr. Moore.

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  27. xyzlatin says:

    Larry Solov, the Mercer family and Andrew Breitbart’s widow, Susie, are the owners of Breitbart. Not Bannon. Bannon and Gorka are the hired help like everyone else there. This may explain why Breitbart’s support for Pres Trump is so Ann Coulter like. It blows hot and cold. We hear Bannon and Gorka expressing support for Pres Trump, then Breitbart writes nasty things.

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    • POP says:

      Sigh…when President Trump capitulates, you seem surprised when his supporters hold him to his campaign policy speeches.
      I don’t understand your logic unless you are Uniparty and love it?

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      • It’s only capitulating because Breitbart says so. Sigh…when President Trump decides for himself you seem surprised that he doesn’t agree with you..who apparently trust Breitbart over Trump….and then you seem surprised that Trump supporters hold you to your campaign support.

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        • POP says:

          Son, are you a bit slow?
          President Trump has a clear, unambiguous policy platform from his campaign speeches, it’s nothing to do agreeing with me but to do with implementing his own many times repeated clear policy objectives.
          Getting it yet?

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          • georgiafl says:

            ….AND President Trump is doing his darndest to fulfill his Contract with the American Voter

            No help from anyone at Breitbart – it’s like they are trying to knee cap the President!

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            • singingsoul says:

              The media did a good job paining Bannon as president and when Bannon left the WH he stated “the Trump Presidency is dead.” What arrogance he has!
              Many people bought into the whole Bannon mystery he developed and continues. He is a dangerous man now to POTUS because he uses the media BB as his ideological power play and does not care whom it hurts.
              He knows the truth about Strange but allowed the myth about McConnell owning Strange.

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  28. n1ghtcr4wler says:

    I think Luther is a lobbyist for bad trade deals and a swamp monster but at this point it would be good if he wins to send a message to the Breitbarts & co that they arent as important as they believe they are and Trump is the boss.

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    • georgiafl says:

      Luther was a lobbyist for Alabama interests, a lawyer defending Alabama/US citizens, an Attorney General protecting US and Alabama law and Alabama citizens, and a Senator representing Alabamans.

      Stop deriding a hard working, honorable man.

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      • n1ghtcr4wler says:

        so Luther didnt lobby for Russel Athletics and the CAFTA trade deal which cost AL thousdands of jobs? interesting what Strange liars show up

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        • georgiafl says:

          Did he? If so, I was wrong.

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          • Luther Strange worked on CAFTA as a lobbyist for the powerful political broker and law firm Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP. Russell paid the firm $660,000 for Strange’s lobbying efforts between 2000 and 2006.
            The U.S. Senate approved the Dominican Republic-Central American Free Trade Agreement, known as DR-CAFTA, in 2005. The very next year, Russell announced that it would move thousands of jobs out of Alabama to Mexico and Honduras.and that when CAFTA was passed the Russell Athletic factory in Alabama outsourced 7K jobs.

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        • georgiafl says:

          That is, did Luther Strange cost Alabama thousands of jobs?

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  29. POP says:

    ‘Trump will not be able to tweet his way out of not building the wall. He will not be able to change the subject by attacking the media or Crooked Hillary. He will not be able to get away with blaming Republicans in Congress.”

    She’s right. Will Luther assist? BWAAAAAA……..

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-09-20.html#read_more

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  30. TKA says:

    Just watched this. Came away with the distinct impression Luther Strange gets a lukewarm reception, at best, when POTUS mentions his name. Not sure that’s going to bode well for Mr. Strange. I don’t have a pony in this race, so whatever way this race ends I’m fairly confident the President, and more importantly his agenda, will be supported. If I were an Alabama resident, I’d be having a tough time with this vote. Roy Moore is a bit out there for my likes. Lastly, I don’t know Alabama politics all too well, but, in a state that, from my understanding, is pretty reliable Republican I find it hard to imagine either Republican would have a tough time holding onto the seat.

    Interesting to see how he handled the “lock her up” chants. His facial expression gave the impression he’s still not too happy with AG Sessions. Sessions, in my view, is proving to be nothing more than a Ryan/McConnell establishment gatekeeper.

    The wall. SMH, he’s going to lose the 2020 election if he doesn’t stop fiddling around with the verbiage of how he’s going to handle the wall. During the campaign, he was building a wall with a “Big beautiful door”. Now we’re getting a see-through fence, but only where we need it. While I don’t disagree with the approach if that is, in fact, what the border patrol wants/needs. It just seems that every time it comes up, he never seems quite as committed, or bold, about it. On this, I leave open the distinct possibility that “battered conservative syndrome”, and the negativity that breeds, is getting the better of me.

    It’s always fun to watch him at a rally and I’m so glad he called out the NFL for allowing the awful behavior taking place on the field. I especially appreciated when he suggested people get up and leave the stadium when it happens. At some point, the owners have to kick Roger Goodell to the curb and bring in someone to clean up the mess.

    In the end, another fun rally speech.

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    • backwoodsgirl123 says:

      You’ll learn as you go along that a lot of times, Trump will bring things out in the open hoping for more feedback. Because that’s how the best decisions are made.

      As for a see-through wall, I agree with that. I wondered a couple of times when he talked about concrete, if the other side was going to be able to throw or drop things over and hurt someone without us being able to see it.

      So, see-through it is!

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      • CaptainNonno says:

        Or how large an assault, if they are armed and with what, children present etc. throwing stuff over a wall requires a target to retrieve. This can be planned for. The see-thru wall is more of an assessment of risk for BPA I think.

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    • Betty says:

      I would just like to see a wall.🐱. I am curios what a see through wall would look like. Hopefully not like a fence.

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    • America First says:

      Yeah, all the chicken littles talking about a Democrat winning Alabama don’t know that state very well.

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  31. Suncc49 says:

    No more muh principles types in Congress to join Rand in destroying deals and legislation.

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  32. 4beagles says:

    Must say that I”l be glad when Wednesday arrives.

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  33. Convert says:

    The Strange/Moore uproar is what it is because it’s the very heart of the Republican dilemma. Moore is an extreme religious conservative–like I am. 😀 We live without licquor or cigarettes, we’d even like divorce to be hard to get! Etc.Etc. But we don’t get to legislate a theocracy into existence. We have to live in a secular–and fallen–and multi-cultural world. Not to mention we have to accept that we are a democracy with divided governance. Trump needs people willing to accept that reality. I have no patience with either party because they are now both controlled by the craziest faction who believe in no compromise, let’s out-extreme each other. That’s why Trump is such a relief and our last hope. And I represent the majority. If the Republicans don’t figure that out soon– that we demand a responsive government that gets things done, it’s going to end badly. People won’t go back to the Dems–they’re done permanently. Next, it’s in the streets….

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    • Trish in Southern Illinois says:

      Actually we’re a REPUBLIC. The schools and media keep telling us we’re a democracy….and sadly, i hear some republicans, scratch that…alot of republicans call us a democracy and i yell cuss words at them through the tv while they say it. Really irks me!

      “…and to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands…”

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  34. leont says:

    We have to vote for anyone Trump endorses. That is the most effective way to support him, probably the only one. He is on the frontline, fighting, and we are just shooting wind at this time. If he doesn’t know what he is doing, we are screwed anyway.

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  35. Seibert Cowley says:

    I think the big picture is being missed here. Strange is the underdog. If Trump can come in and after an amazing rally bring across the finish line. All repub encumbents will fall in line. Afraid of what Trump can do to them.

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    • POP says:

      Yep. And that’s concerning. Will President Trump be giving preselection support to other Mitch Uniparty Republicans against say Tea Party Republicans (who I expect will all become Trump Republicans in time), for reasons unknowable to us?

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  36. Tonawanda says:

    I am saying this facetiously (sort of): if you watched Trump’s amazing speech and do not support Strange you are oobotz!

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  37. kaz says:

    I love our president but not only did he endorse John McCain but also Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio. All of whom I would like to see gone.

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  38. MaskOfZero says:

    I support Trump on most issues–but not all.

    I think Moore is the better choice over Strange. I really don’t like the way the governor appointed Strange (Alabama Attorney-General) while the governor was under investigation–the whole thing stinks to high heaven. Strange is being heavily backed by McConnell PAC money and the GOPe. Strange is a part of the swamp and is a former DC lobbyist who knows the swamp well.

    For some reason, Trump does not recognize that the only way to implement his agenda is to clean house in the Republican party–primary, primary, primary–until all the RINOs have to retire on the donor money they have stashed away.

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