Sunday Talks: Secretary of State Rex Tillerson -vs- CBS John Dickerson…

Good interview with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and CBS John Dickerson.  Worth noting the nuance in Tillerson’s statements about messaging toward China, specifically Beijing.  Those who have followed CTH analysis of the administrations China/DPRK strategy will note how Tillerson discusses the enmeshed relationship and the strategy of using economics as leverage toward China.

Tillerson also discusses the upcoming President Trump U.N. speech and the geopolitical alliances the administration has assembled to confront freedom’s adversaries.

QUESTION: Good morning and welcome to Face the Nation. I’m John Dickerson. We’ll get to the story that dominated news coverage most of last week, that of the aftermath of Hurricane Irma, but there’s a lot of other news coming up this morning and so we’re going to begin by talking to Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

Mr. Secretary, welcome. Let me start with the Paris climate accord. The Wall Street Journal reported that the administration was looking for a way to stay in it, but in June President Trump said it was time to exit. So what is the administration position?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, the position is being led and developed by Gary Cohn over at the National Economic Council. And I think if you recall, the President also said, look, we are willing to work with partners in the Paris climate accord if we can construct a set of terms that we believe is fair and balanced for the American people and recognizes our economy, our economic interest relative to others – in particular, the second-largest economy in the world, China. If you look at those targets in terms of the Paris climate accord, they were just really out of balance for the two largest economies. So I think the plan is for Director Cohn to consider other ways in which we can work with partners in the Paris climate accord. We want to be productive, we want to be helpful. The U.S. actually has a tremendous track record on reducing our own greenhouse gas emissions.

QUESTION: So there’s a chance that if things get worked out both on the voluntary side from the U.S., the voluntary restrictions for the U.S., that it could change, but then also with China, there’s a chance the U.S. could stay in the accord; is that right?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: I think under the right conditions. The President has said he’s open to finding those conditions where we can remain engaged with others on what we all agree is still a challenging issue.

QUESTION: All right, let’s move on to North Korea. This week the UN increased sanctions against North Korea, but then North Korea fired another missile. So what’s next?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, first, I think it’s important to understand the policy of the United States, John, towards North Korea is to deny North Korea possession of a nuclear weapon and the ability to deliver that weapon. Our strategy has been to undertake this peaceful pressure campaign, we call it, enabled by the four nos, the four nos being that we do not seek regime change, we do not seek a regime collapse, we do not seek an accelerated reunification of the peninsula, and we do not seek a reason to send our forces north of the Demilitarized Zone.

So the peaceful pressure campaign is built around and putting together the largest and strongest international coalition we can to send the same message to North Korea and to North Korea’s neighbors, China and Russia, that this is the policy of the rest of the world. And you’ve seen that expressed now in two unanimous Security Council resolutions to impose the strictest sanctions ever.

All of that designed to bring North Korea to the table for constructive, productive dialogue. If our diplomatic efforts fail, though, our military option will be the only one left. And so all of this is backed up by a very strong and resolute military option, but be clear: we seek a peaceful solution to this.

QUESTION: So going back to those four nos, those are a message to North Korea that despite the fact North Korea says that the U.S. has aggressive aims, the United States doesn’t have aggressive aims. You’ve been clear about that. You’ve been clear again this morning. They’re not getting the message, are they?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: No, it’s also a message to assure China that that is also the U.S. policy as well, because as you well know, China has concerns about a regime collapse in particular and the impact it might have along their border. So this is also to assure the government of China that that is not our agenda either, and an effort to bring them as part of our effort, and they have joined us in these most recent sanctions votes at the UN. We believe China and Russia as well can bring a lot of pressure to bear on North Korea.

QUESTION: You’ve said that China and Russia need to take direct action. What direct action does China need to take?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, there are two particular economic revenue streams to the North Koreans that are quite important to their ability to fund their weapons programs and to maintain their economic activity just within their own country. One, of course, is energy. No economy can function if it does not have access to energy. China is the principal supplier of oil to North Korea. They have cut off oil supplies in the past when things got bad. We’re asking China to use that leverage they have with North Korea to influence them. And in the case of Russia, it’s foreign laborers. Russia has over 30,000 foreign laborers from North Korea. Those wages all go back to the regime in North Korea.

QUESTION: China says if they cut off the oil it will lead to that collapse that they worry about. Is there anything the U.S. can do to allay their fears?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, we’re – what we’ve said to them is, look, you have the best information. You have your hand on the valve. You set the valve where you think it’s going to create the message that you want to send to this regime that they must change the path they’re on. So we’re leaving it in China’s hands at this point.

QUESTION: And why not just start talks now? China, Russia, France have all said the U.S. should solve this with talks at the diplomatic table.

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, I’m waiting for the regime in North Korea to give us some indication that they’re prepared to have constructive, productive talks. We have tried a couple of times to signal to them that we’re ready when they’re ready, and they have responded with more missile launches and a nuclear test. All they need to do to let us know they’re ready to talk is to just stop these tests, stop these provocative actions, and let’s lower the threat level and the rhetoric.

QUESTION: Do they need to stop them – give them two weeks or something, or do they need to say, “We are going to stop”? Does it have to be a verbal promise?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, I’ve said in the past, John, that we’ll know it when we see it in terms of their seriousness.

QUESTION: If China doesn’t – in terms of seriousness, if China doesn’t do what you think is necessary either on this oil question or anything else, are trade measures in order to punish China, to put pressure on China?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, the President has been very clear that he views this threat of North Korea as ever-growing, and as we’ve watched each missile test and each nuclear test, their program is advancing. It’s advancing technologically and it’s advancing in its capabilities. We’ve said from the beginning we don’t have a lot of time left. We don’t have a runway left to land this plane on. So we need China’s assistance to bring them to the table.

QUESTION: Let me – this week the President is going up to the United Nations. He’s going to speak. He has talked about an “America first” policy. That’s what he’s talked about in office. The United Nations is a collective action group. How does “America first” fit into a group that – an organization that exists through collective action?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, I think it’s a very important week for the President up at the UN General Assembly. There’s two aspects of his participation up there. One is his major speech that he will give to the General Assembly. The world will be listening. The American people will be listening. And the message he’s going to deliver in that speech is, first, he’s going to promote and advocate for the strength of democratic values and he’s going to reinforce that it is those shared values that bind our alliances together and that have kept the world a stable place. So he is going to be advocating for those values and the protection of those values.

And then he’s going to be making the case that those values are under attack; they’re under attack from threats that we just spoke about in North Korea; they’re under attack from threats of Iran destabilizing efforts; they’re under attack by others who would undermine our democratic values. So he is going to be very clear in terms of his view that that is what brings us together. That’s what binds these nations together and makes us the most power and also creates a stable world.

And then he’s going to address these specific threats of North Korea, Iran, terrorism – global terrorism, and why it is important that all of us come together and confront these as a unified body. I think he does believe the United Nation can be a very important instrument of addressing these threats to the world, but I think he also takes the view that the United Nations has fallen short, and he wants to motivate them in that regard.

QUESTION: Let me ask you about Iran. The President has till the 15th of October to notify Congress whether Iran is in compliance with the nuclear deal arranged by the previous administration. You say they are not in compliance. The British foreign minister says they are. Are there any other people who are a part of that deal who believe that Iran is not in compliance with the nuclear deal?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, my view on the nuclear deal is they are in technical compliance of the nuclear arrangement. But if you go back and read the preamble to the JCPOA, the nuclear agreement, there clearly was an expectation between the parties, the negotiators from the Western parties as well as Iran, that by dealing with this nuclear threat we would lower the tension between Iran and the rest of the world and we would create conditions for Iran to rejoin the community of nations as a productive country that wants stability and wants peace and wants prosperity in the region. That’s why all these sanctions were lifted.

But since the nuclear deal has been concluded, what we have witnessed is Iran has stepped up its destabilizing activities in Yemen, it’s stepped up its destabilizing activities in Syria, it exports arms to Hizballah and other terrorist groups, and it continues to conduct a very active ballistic missile program. None of that, I believe, is consistent with that preamble commitment that was made by everyone.

QUESTION: Very quickly, though, they’re not a nuclear power. You’re dealing with North Korea. Why not do one thing at a time? Why take on – potentially take on Iran on that question? Why not leave that for another day? You’ve got a pretty serious thing with North Korea right in front of you.

SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, I think it’s important when you consider the Iranian relationship and how we view it, as I said – have said to others in Europe, consider our full breadth of our relationship. And this is what the President has said as well. Look, we have a lot of issues with Iran. They’re a yard, a yard long. The nuclear issue is only one foot of that yard. We have two feet of other issues that we must deal with, and it has to do with Iran’s destabilizing activities.

QUESTION: Very quickly on Cuba. Some senators have suggested closing down the embassy there. Should that happen?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: We have it under evaluation. It’s a very serious issue with respect to the harm that certain individuals have suffered. We’ve brought some of those people home. It’s under review.

QUESTION: All right, Mr. Secretary. Thank you so much for your time.

SECRETARY TILLERSON: My pleasure.

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93 Responses to Sunday Talks: Secretary of State Rex Tillerson -vs- CBS John Dickerson…

  1. YAL SMILEY IS BACK GO TO OPEN THREAD!!! 💖💖🇺🇸🇺🇸💖💖😢😢🤣😂🤣😙😙

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  2. MM says:

    T-Rex is one of my favorites!

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  3. sobriquet4u says:

    Excellent interview and such a “reassuring but commanding” voice Mr. Tillerson has.

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  4. Dee Merchant says:

    It’s wonderful to see real leadership back in the State Dept.

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  5. His interviews are always informative.

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  6. Sandra-VA says:

    I really enjoy listening to Rex Tillerson. He has a strong, but calm intonation and definitely has a command of the subject matter.

    I also fail to see where he is at odds with President Trump on the issues. It seems they are all in sync with their particular part in foreign affairs. I never understand the constant onslaught of lies that Rex is going against the Trump Agenda when he clearly is not.

    Anyway, I think the US is in a very strong position with the NK situation and I feel confident that the right things will be done at the right time. Had this been an HRC presidency… I would be trying to find another planet to escape to!

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    • mariner says:

      If you understand that anti-Tillerson and anti-Trump voices are telling constant onslaughts of lies, you DO understand, and that’s all you need to know.

      Trying to come up with a reasonable explanation for unreasonable and dishonest behavior is an exercise in futility.

      MAGA!

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      • oldtoenail says:

        That is exactly right. There is a constant onslaught of total garbage made up by the mainstream press and low life bloggers. Obviously they are trying to split off anyone that will listen. Use it to build your resolve to support President Trump.

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      • Judith says:

        But but but.. I am CONCERNED and I have TRUST ISSUES!! Just kidding: No, I don’t. I will always trust *my* President to make wise decisions to MAGA. And I will never become a Hanoi Jane to gaslight and demoralize the Deplorable base on these threads.

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  7. n1ghtcr4wler says:

    If he isnt out by the end of the year I would be surprised

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  8. Bill Dunn says:

    How about his comments on the Paris Climate
    Accords ?

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    • Zennalou says:

      shhhhh wrong question

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    • noritadek says:

      What about it? TRex didn’t say anything different that President Trump said when he walked away from the accord. “I’m willing to renegotiate it if it will be good for America, otherwise, if they don’t want to renegotiate, that’s ok too” or something like that. We are in good hands treepers! MAGA

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      • Judith says:

        Of course we are in good hands! Somehow, these “concerned” posters never seem to remember what President Trump actually says. Instead, they feign surprise at a perceived “new” piece of information that is really old news. Hmm

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        • RG says:

          It is very hard to be an anti-Trump person and then listen to what he has to say. Once people are against something, it is like waking up the dead to get them to change their minds. Unless somethings hits them in the wallet or hits them wherever it hurt, they will be anti-Trump until dooms day.
          Look at the the people who have lined up to see Hillary smile and sign her book. Thank God, it is not millions but one is too many. They would supoort her even if she confiscated their bank accounts and put them in a tent in the desert.
          There is also that thing of identification – those who choose to identify with the anti-Trump crowd believe it is cool to be anti. They don’t want to change. That bunch of idiot women(?) on the View are so totally full of themselves and it would change their identity to even say a kind word about the Trumps. Late night commies have dug a hole that is so deep and full of anti rhetoric that they can’t stop. It’s that identity thing again. It’s been almost a year and there just has to be a point where I conclude that certain people just want to be dumb and anti-Trump.

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          • Judith says:

            The weak-minded have always been fair game. Lacking self-awareness and craving acceptance, they are easy prey for cultists who exploit their vulnerabilities.

            The Bible cautions us about false prophets. Hellary’s mentor, Alinsky, dedicated his book to Lucifer. Wikileaks revealed that Hellary wants us to remain “unaware and compliant.” Indeed.

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      • scott467 says:

        “What about it? TRex didn’t say anything different that President Trump said when he walked away from the accord. “I’m willing to renegotiate it if it will be good for America, otherwise, if they don’t want to renegotiate, that’s ok too” or something like that. We are in good hands treepers! MAGA”

        _______________

        At some point, somebody in this administration has to recognize the damage they do with conflicting messages.

        The lie of globull warming and the Leftist / Globalist Church of Climatology are flashpoints with Trump’s base (and any sane human being). Why does he open the door to staying in this fraud that was nearly perpetrated against the American People?

        Why do they do that to their own supporters?

        How is that any less abusive than ‘battered conservative syndrome’?

        And all it does is give ammunition to Breitbart to get everyone’s blood pressure jacked up to the Moon, until blood is shooting out your whatever:

        …………………………….
        Tillerson: Trump Open to Staying in Paris Climate Accord, ‘Under the Right Conditions’
        http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/09/17/tillerson-trump-open-staying-paris-climate-accord-right-conditions/
        …………………………….

        I realize (hope) that they are just playing a game with these talking heads, but it could hardly be more demoralizing when they do this over and over again.

        It gets to the point where you can hardly even explain it to people without being attacked as a troll or a Leftist (or both). And these are fellow Trump supporters who are pulling their hair out because people like Tillerson are hinting at getting BACK into something that is IRREDEEMABLE.

        In other words, it is toxically DIVISIVE.

        Whatever their reason for doing that is, I sure hope it’s worth it.

        .

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        • Oldschool says:

          Good points scott.

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          • Exactly, Scott467. They’re not speaking with one voice. Unfortunately, it looks like Tillerson is a corporate globalist who has bought into the phony carbon agenda. He was another bad choice for this administration. He needs to go.

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            • bkrg2 says:

              Hilarious… Do you really believe your comment?
              Why would a guy running one of the biggest companies in the world quit the job & massive paycheck to be SoS?
              Of course T-Rex has a global view. He ran a massive global company and dealt with tons of foreign governments, customs, and cultures. Does that make him a Globalist?
              If Trump can’t “contol” T-Rex, then are you saying Trump is a bad leader?
              What is your feelings for our past All Start team of SoS – Crooked, Kerry?

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  9. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    “I think under the right conditions, the president said he’s open to finding those conditions where we can remain engaged with others on what ___ we all agree is still a challenging issue.___” ~ SOS Tillerson

    What exactly is that “challenging issue”?
    The global warming gobbledeegook?
    If so we don’t “all agree” on that.

    M A G A

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    • The Boss says:

      This is high-grade diplo-speak for “Nothing will change our decision to disengage from this fraudulent agreement”.
      MAGA for sure.

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    • Kay Elle says:

      Look at it this way…

      Considering who our President is – with his massive success in property development: Imagine he’s been presented with an offer for land that includes a huge, ugly structure on the verge of being condemned. His first response may have been to laugh at the unrealistic asking price and tell the seller to forget it, he’s not interested. But of course the seller is willing – even desperate – to “negotiate”. (Perhaps he hasn’t read “The Art of the Deal”)

      If thorough examination and careful evaluation reveals a solid foundation and valuable building materials that can be salvaged and used to rebuild a structure worthy of the Trump name, a deal MAY be worth pursuing. But unless the seller agrees to haul off the mountain of garbage stinking up the place and accept less than half of his original offer; he’ll be left to stumble away, mumbling to himself about how unfair it is that he couldn’t make himself fabulously wealthy at the expense of the rich man he mistook for a fool.

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      • Judith says:

        Yes! Stripped to the bone, *anything* can be rebuilt, from the ground up. Say what you will, but President Trump has always been a master negotiator. He knows when to hold em, when to fold em, and when to walk away. All we need to do is trust his instincts, because now he will need VOTERS to fix the mess in DC.

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    • Ditch Mitch says:

      The Boss is right! To add to The Boss’s comment, the “right conditions” states the reason why we will not join the agreement. It should not be interpreted as a softening of PDJT’s position.

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  10. ajsdaddie says:

    If we remain in Paris, that’s the final sign that Trump has been compromised. The DACA messaging isn’t good, but staying in Paris would mean that Trump is surrounded by and being coerced by globalists.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      You are being gaslighted. The WH reaffirmed that their position has not changed and we are exiting the Paris accord.

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      • NC PATRIOT says:

        P45 is NOT going to give the EU $3 Billion/year of American money———-when no other country pays. We have a good envionmental track record on our own. This was an Obama initiated money transfer to further deplete the USA. P45 recognized this. He will not re-enter unless we do not send money.

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        • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

          Anything related to the climate change myth is a scam whether or not we pay a penny to some UN expert council up front. Ditch the dumb “Accord” and don’t look back!

          Liked by 7 people

        • Judith says:

          Yes, I recall he clearly dilineated the issues at the atart. One, that USA pays in but other countries do not contribute anything, or very little. Two, that USA already follows strict environmental restrictions, but the biggest polluters, countries like China and India, are free under the “Accord” to pollute the planet unrestricted.

          I think President Trump was very clear about “why” USA pulled out of the Paris “Climate” Accord. It was basically a scam to shake us down. This is not “new” information, by any stretch.

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          • Judith says:

            ..And he always left the door open for EU to come back to the table to re-negotiate terms. That isn’t new info either..

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            • H.R. says:

              Juith: “..And he always left the door open for EU to come back to the table to re-negotiate terms.”

              .. and that isn’t going to happen, either, since President Trump took the U.S. piggy-bank off the table.

              There’s no point ringing the doorbell if nobody is there to hand out candy. Cohn is probably lonelier than the Maytag repairman waiting for someone to call about re-negotiations.

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              • Judith says:

                ..and what better way to show EU’s true colors.. that it had nothing to do with “climate.” Trump is the master of the great reveal.

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      • ajsdaddie says:

        Yes, I hope you are correct. I do believe Trump misdirects everyone on a regular basis and that this trait has been emulated by his staff. I’m just noting that the actual action here is important. If we re-enter Paris, then I’m worried.

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        • Oldschool says:

          Understand your point and agree ajs. It’s like saying if NK shoots off a missle that hits guam, it’s a problem. You are not saying they will, but if they do it will create a problem. The fact is that no one knows what is going to happen except the folks who are making those decisions. No one. We are here batting around possibilities, that’s all. Not pretending to know, just sittin’ on the porch talking about stuff people talk about, like “what if all that rain causes a flood?”

          Personally, I thought Trump ended our role in the climate accord when he announced just that months ago, so I was surprised to hear T Rex say what he did today. Just gonna pour myself another sweet tea and rock a bit longer on the front porch.

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      • They need to speak with one voice!

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        • WSB says:

          No they don’t.

          Did it ever occur to you that when President Trump said he was not going to always tell his adversaries what he would be doing, he meant it? Have you ever heard the term “stringing along?” Muscle up some strategic thinking and watch.

          Just because the last POTUS and SOS frauds let our enemies and opponents know what we were going to do with unified voice, doesn’t mean we need to keep making that fatal mistake.

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    • graciegram says:

      If I was 100 lbs. and 5’8 and 18 years old I could be a super model. If, if, if. Let’s let President Trump handle this instead of playing guessing games.

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    • oldtoenail says:

      Get some backbone. President Trump has not pulled out of anything.

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    • LafnH2O says:

      Final sign??

      Ummmmm
      🛑

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  11. mariner says:

    I continue to be impressed with Secy Tillerson. He has an amazing presence, is very articulate and plain-spoken while advocating U.S. interests.

    Seeing him, it’s hard to imagine that President Trump could have chosen anyone else for this position.

    I thought the interview went very well, and Dickerson generally asked questions and got out of the way. I wasn’t impressed with his assumption that working with the U.N. conflicts with America First.

    MAGA!

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  12. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    This week’s Sunday lineup:

    FAKE NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): National security adviser H.R. McMaster; Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Roy Blunt, R-Mo.

    MEET THE DEPRESSED (NBC): Sens. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Tom Cotton, R-Ark.; former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

    DEFACE THE NATION (CBS): Secretary of State Rex Tillerson; Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

    PROPAGANDA WEEK (ABC): British Prime Minister Theresa May; McMaster; Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif.

    SLAY THE UNION (CNN): Nikki Haley, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

    Cotton, Tillerson, & Haley are the only three worth listening to, in that order.

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  13. Breitbart is already on this story, with their own particular spin on it. If only they would be as conscientious about reporting real news.
    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/09/17/tillerson-trump-open-staying-paris-climate-accord-right-conditions/

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    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      ——–> Ten other top stories on Breitbart today

      President Trump Shares Meme of Him Hitting Hillary with Golf Ball

      Schiff: Trump’s Tweets ‘Juvenile,’ Hurts ‘Stature of Our Whole Country’

      Zionist Group Brings 10,000 Jews to Israel with Help from Christians

      Feinstein: Russia Probe Could Take Another ‘Year-and-Half’

      Cotton: Trump Told Me There’s No DACA! Deal

      Luther Strange’s Attorney Provided Guide to Block Trump from Nomination

      Report: ISIS Plan to Attack Gay Nightclubs in Paris Foiled

      Dick Durbin: DACA Deal ‘Includes Citizenship’

      Hungary Builds a Wall Cuts Illegal Immigration by 99%

      American Women Suffer Acid Attack at Marseille,France Train Station

      TrumpNation has a lot of enemies. Breitbart is not one of them.

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      • mimbler says:

        Yes, and they are one of the few news sites with a lot of original content.
        Nearly everyone else is just cherry picking AP, AFP and Reuters articles, so I can read a bunch of sites, yet everything is copy/pasted fro the same sources.

        And I think their opinion pieces are generally well done. Even when I disagree with one I generally learn a little.

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        • Sylvia Avery says:

          Like every other site, some articles are good and some not. I like your point about original content. That’s important.

          I just stay away from the comments. I know some people really groove on scrapping with the bots, but I don’t get it. Shrug. But then, I don’t play video games either. Or basketball. Possibly I am missing out on a whole vast world of enjoyable entertainment.

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          • mimbler says:

            Oh, yes! The comments are unreadable as there is so much ignorant hate being flung around Makes me realize what our mods do here silently behind the scenes.
            Agreed on video games, but I sure played a lot of basketball on the driveway as a kid!

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      • “President Trump Shares Meme of Him Hitting Hillary with Golf Ball”
        Just don’t read the comments. Trolls still quite active.

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      • Ditch Mitch says:

        BB has been known to sensationalize and the stories even contradict the headline. Their home page looks like Drudge.

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  14. NC PATRIOT says:

    Obama signed us on to the Paris Accord to transfer billions of American dollars to the EU. Not about climate—sheer money transfer. P45 recognized that. Will NOT re-align as long as big American bucks are required. We are already more climate responsible than most nations.

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    • n1ghtcr4wler says:

      not to the EU, to the UN

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    • Judith says:

      Exactly. But, after he gives a perfectly reasonable explanation for US withdrawal, he magnanimously leaves the door open for their response. Now, don’t they all look foolish if they can’t be bothered to address his concerns in order to, uh, what was it again? Oh yes, SAVE THE PLANET? God, I LOVE the way he hangs their laundry out to dry! But.. muh PLANET!

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  15. linda4298 says:

    McMaster called the WSJ story fake news, Pres. not staying in Paris accord, He wants what’s best for America only.

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  16. rashamon says:

    Lost but not to be ignored: In celebration of the signing of the U.S. Constitution, federal officials are awarding citizenship this week to approximately 30,000 people who have followed all the legalities to assume this important role.

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  17. Peter says:

    Every treeper being gaslighted into a total freak job needs to be required to watch the first 30 minutes of GG last night. Keep calm and MAGA on…seriously – Greg puts Trump into a beautiful light, and is actually spot on truth about how Trump is working pieces on the chess board. Do yourself and the treehouse a favor – watch!

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    • mariner says:

      I saw that posted in another thread, and I had never before seen Gutfeld’s show.

      I’m glad I watched this one; it was all good and often hilarious.

      There were a lot of great moments, I remember Chaffetz stating that people could understand Hillary’s book without opening it, because the question and its answer were both on the cover.

      Another was Gutfeld introducing the topic saying that since Hillary kept talking he would keep mocking her.

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    • That was really funny,,,,thanks for posting.

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  18. The messaging over the last 2 days regarding the Paris Accord have been totally confusing. Wall Street Journal says that we’re not pulling out of the accord. White House says they are pulling out of the accord. Rex Tillerson says that cohn is deciding policy now and if certain agreements can be met, will continue to work with certain “partners”. .?????? Are we in or are we out? Because for me this is not negotiable.

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    • mariner says:

      PDJT has already crooked his thumb and informed the world that “we’re outta there”.

      The WSJ flat-out lied to us.

      Tillerson’s statement was, as suggested, diplo-speak for “we’re outta there, but if they suck up to us we could come back”.

      I don’t see a problem with that.

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      • TreeClimber says:

        Yeah, if they pay us to come back, that’s an incentive. My take on all these deals that have everyone in a tizzy is, it’s Trump – the act/bill/EO/Accord/whatever may have the same name, but with him *re*negotiating it, it’s a whole different animal.

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      • Judith says:

        Agreed. That is exactly what was said the minute we pulled out of the Paris Accord. There is no “change” in the messaging here. The only change I see is the army of “confused” posters spreading their ignorance all over these threads.

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    • JustSomeInputFromAz says:

      How is the White House supposed to control false articles published in the WSJ?

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    • WSB says:

      The WSJ retracted their story.

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  19. TheWanderingStar says:

    McStain was scheduled to follow T-Rex this morning on Deface The Nation. After watching T-Rex and the exemplary job he did, can you imagine the contrast with John McStain?

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  20. Titan 28 says:

    Tillerson is as ill-informed about global warming as any other witless CEO. I just don’t get the hero worship. He has revealed himself to be utterly ignorant on the basis and history of the Israel-Palestinian conflict as well.

    On other state dept issues, North Korea, etc., he may be all right, and certainly an improvement over anyone Bush or Obama had in place. But, please, let’s dial down the self-deception. Just because he sounds like an adult doesn’t make him Henry Kissinger.

    Getting out of the Paris Accord because it’s bad for America is dubious. The reason to exit is that global warming is the biggest scientific fraud in Western history. How this benefits or fails to benefit America is actually a weak argument for getting out, i.e., if they change the deal around some so Trump can say, hey, it’s now ok for the U.S. is that what he does?

    We get back on board? Trump has been too coy on this subject. And for me, it’s a deal breaker. His decision was the correct decision. He needs to stick with it.

    Tillerson’s been a disappointment. I’d like to see him gone.

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    • WSB says:

      Tillerson was point on.

      You should actually read the Paris Climate Accord. It was not about climate change. It was an extortion document to remove $3B yearly and 6M jobs from the US ONLY, TO BE HANDED TO COUNTRIES IN THE EU, including Germany, Turkey and third world dictators.

      If you entered into an agreement with five friends to start a monthly dinner club, but you were the one who would be the only cook and yet have to pay for the other five at every dinner, would you agree to that?

      Now, if everyone paid you because you had already been scammed by them for years earlier, and then they would also pay for themselves and help cook in this little agreement, maybe you would look at it.

      Then you realize that your friends are all deadbeats out to ruin you and will never pay up.

      There, did I miss anything?

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      • Titan 28 says:

        WSB,
        You are correct about the wealth transfer angle, the EU, the third-world dictators. You should have mentioned Obama, who probably came up with the idea and got some UN flack to pretend he did it. So, we agree. But the basis for the whole guilt-ridden income transfer regime is the “97% consensus” baloney behind CAGW. Absent global warming, no money gets moved from rich to poor. Or at the very least, they have to come up with another excuse to loot.

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        • WSB says:

          I have no idea of what your comment means. Above, you determine that Secretary Tillerson is ill-informed about global warming. An then you went off using historical names you apparently know nothing about.

          End of conversation.

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  21. Mia C says:

    We need an open thread on Trump, at least I do. There’s so much to talk about. His tweets, DACA reactions, whether anyone has heard what Ann Coulter is saying now. Much to discuss.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      Mia, there is a Presidential Politics post every day. It has a heading that begins with the day’s date, then says
      2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #
      A new one appears every day around midnight or so.

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    • RG says:

      I will be clear. Ann Colter just needs to run for President. She has made her bones with talk, talk and more talk. I have read one of her books. Right now, she is showing that she is frustrated and unable to follow “negotiations” as a way to accomplish reason. Most of us got that way under Obama who didn’t reason with anyone who was against his immoral presidency. However, Trump and his team have a different approach and Ann is livid that they aren’t doing it her way. She just has a hard time not being the boss.

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  22. There is only 1 way that “foreign workers” have their wages go to support rocket man. It’s called SLAVERY. I do not understand how this is allowed to go on. You should read some of the stories about the conditions these people are forced to endure that are discussed by the few that managed to escape. It’s heartbreaking and disgusting. 30,000 people. Where is the worldwide outrage?

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  23. jeans2nd says:

    SOS Tillerson “…the four nos, the four nos being that we do not seek regime change, we do not seek a regime collapse, we do not seek an accelerated reunification of the peninsula, and we do not seek a reason to send our forces north of the Demilitarized Zone.”

    China is not listening.

    “Given Seoul’s target of peninsula unification, both countries (U.S. and South Korea) hope to trigger civil strife and bring down the regime in North Korea.”
    “It is probably only China that wants denuclearization”

    “Pyongyang, which owns nuclear weapons and missiles that allegedly can hit the US continent, has more bargaining chips.”

    “To reach a new stable state requires all parties involved to accept some losses and pay for the turbulence of the past decade.”
    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1066849.shtml

    Dear China,

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