Sunday July 23rd- Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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158 Responses to Sunday July 23rd- Open Thread

  1. Garrison Hall says:

    Have a blessed Sunday, Treepers. 🙂

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  2. Ad rem says:

    Dear Treepers….

    “Jackphatz” has just suffered a terrible family loss. She has left a brief note on our Prayer Thread. If you should feel so inclined, I’m sure she would appreciate your condolences. Thank you…..

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  3. Garrison Hall says:

    I’m sorry for your loss, Jack. Especially in times of great loss, our Lord is always with us. His Grace is healing.

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  4. solomonpal says:

    CIA Director Mike Pompeo remains inconsolably hostile toward whistleblower organization WikiLeaks, insisting they are a “non-state hostile intelligence service” and are plotting to “take down America any way they can and find any willing partner to achieve that end.”
    Oh my…more deep state

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    • millwright says:

      What else to expect from an organization seeing their rice bowl is in danger ? The Bureaucracy et al is ( at least on many levels ) at war with the tax-paying American Citizens their brief is to support ! In today’s “opposite world ” bureaucracy agencies don’t exist to serve a purpose or population, but, rather, the other way around. To paraphrase POYUS Ronald Reagan’s famous quote, ” ….it no longer matters if your Indian dies… ” if he’s become an impediment to your objective .

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    • Marc says:

      Pompeo(pushing to possibly oust Kim Jong Un), Kelly(opposition to border wall, wanted to keep DACA in place), and Mattis(attached to countless neocon orgs and hires Bush/Obama toadies) won’t last a full term. Trump has to get anyone attached to the Deep State out of his admin. and they must go soon. Wikileaks has leaked damaging documents towards the Kremlin yet people continue to false flag Assange and his people as Russian “non-state agents”. Sessions’ position on civil asset forfeiture is troubling as well. Isn’t is a violation of the 4’th Amendment to the Constitution to seize private property for state use when the person hasn’t been convicted of a crime?

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      • JoAnn Leichliter says:

        This civil asset forfeiture business is repugnant in the extreme. I, too, cannot understand how it has survived court challenges, given the 4th Amendment. Certainly it is convenient (and often profitable) for law enforcement, but it violates the spirit–and, I still think, the letter–of the Constitution. If the vourts won’t strike it down, the Congress needs to outlaw it. (No, I am not holding my breath. )

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        • Garrison Hall says:

          Asset forfeture is a tool of the police state. That it exists and has become institutionalized in law enforcement, is a perfect example of just how fragile our liberty and freedoms actually are. It has to go.

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          • Donna in Oregon says:

            I agree with your Constitutional point of view. However, I find it difficult to apply these protections to foreign National organized crime organizations like the drug Cartels.

            When it comes to Foreign Nationals I do not believe they are under our Constitutional protections. For instance, if the DHS under Secretary Kelly should find cash stash houses with billions of American dollars I support the Federal government taking those proceeds and not returning them to the drug Cartels in Mexico or any other foreign criminal enterprise.

            RICO laws are used for organized criminal organizations that derive their power from their ill gotten gains. In the case of drug Cartels, thousands of dead Americans.

            I just don’t think foreigners should be rewarded by the Federal government with OUR Constitution.

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      • dman1971 says:

        Yes it is a violation of the 4th as well as the 5th Amendment (compensation clause) portion of the 5th. Most people do not even know their rights let alone ever have read them fully.

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    • Pompeo would not be CIA director if not for WikiLeaks. He should count his blessings.

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  5. BakoCarl says:

    Cold sweeps Southern Hemisphere – Huge crop losses
    Early estimations of crop losses nearly 100% for fruit in Southern Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay. Where is the coverage on this in the main stream media?????????
    It was -8C in areas where average temperatures for this time of year are 17C.
    https://www.iceagenow.info/cold-sweeps-southern-hemisphere-huge-crop-losses-video/

    . . . and . . .

    There we have it: ice cover in Greenland is steadily increasing, in defiance of rising carbon levels and even greater levels of green rhetoric.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/07/greenland_turns_against_mother_gaia.html

    . . . and . . .

    21 July 2017 – The Emergency Situations Ministry extended an emergency warning including the collapse of trees, damage to power transmission lines, damage to the roofs of houses and unstable structures.

    https://www.iceagenow.info/moscow-hit-bt-snow-rain-hail/

    Oooohh! Global warming . . . er, um . . . climate change. Yeah, that’s it. Now, don’t all you climate deniers out there wish that PTrump had stayed in the Paris Accord?

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  6. nimrodman says:

    Human interest story:

    Nova Scotia bikers escort 10-year-old bullying victim to school
    Grade 4 student “ecstatic” to have hundreds of leather-clad bikers drop him off.

    https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/06/21/nova-scotia-bikers-escort-10-year-old-bullying-victim-to-school.html

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    • Ad rem says:

      Wonderful story!

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    • millwright says:

      Don’t know of any affiliation but in the U.S. we have BACA ( Bikers Against Child Abuse ) chapters all across the nation. BACA riders provide emotional support for victims with their physical presence, ceremonial adoption of the child into their organization, but most importantly, providing that individual with on-going support from the club(s) to thwart retaliation or harassment .

      Kudos for those Bikers in N.S. undertaking the task !

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      • maiingankwe says:

        Thank you Millwright, I too was going to mention BACA and all of the great work they do. I especially like how they continue to keep in contact with these children and help them through their young life’s journey. It is never a one time deal with them.

        I read one story where the soon to be divorced mother called them late in the night. Her boy and girl were under the bed and her ex was banging and trying to get in. The police were also called beforehand. Of course, the ex ran once he heard the police, but her kids were still terrified. Their mom had been brutally beaten while she had still been with him, and by the sounds of it often. She was so determined to leave and start fresh and to give her children a real and proper life. The ex was making that difficult.

        Well, a few of the members came over the next day as asked with teddy bears wearing a leather vest displaying their DACA logo and matching leather vests or jackets to fit the two children. I can’t remember if they give the children vests or jackets.

        Anyways, they spent a great deal of time with the kids telling them who they were and what they did. They also explained to them they were now part of their family and could call anytime. They didn’t need to be frightened anymore. They also gave each of them rides up and down their street.

        The next night, and there may have been other nights, a number of the DACA bikers waited outside on their bikes for the ex to return. Well, he did. They didn’t beat him up like I’m sure they wanted too, bit the ex never came around to harass and intimidate after. I believe they still came over for a few nights afterwards just to make sure.

        DACA is real big on following the rules of absolutely no violence. They also do their best not to step on any police toes.

        I don’t think it matters what the situation is, they are there to protect the children.

        One time a child had to speak in front of a judge and was absolutely terrified because the monster who hurt them would be there too standing trial.

        Of course, a good number of DACA members rode their bikes to the rescue and all walked in single file to fill up the majority of the seats. The child found their voice and the monster was locked away for some time.

        DACA spends a good deal of time in courthouses supporting children. They are simply amazing. A good number of them are all big, burly and bearded with gruff voices, but don’t be fooled, they’re big, ole teddy bears with yuuge hearts to boot. They all have nicknames too and never use their real names for security reasons. So yes, they always come up with a nickname for the little darlings as well. The kids love that part. Heck, I would too.

        These children not only get a teddy bear 🐻 with its own leather DACA vest, they get their own leather, a super cool nickname and a yuuge family to protect and love them.

        I did my best and put a lot of hours in trying to get a DACA chapter in our own two towns that are close together. It was unfortunate to learn the police department adamantly refused to work with DACA on any grounds.

        The head part of DACA that takes care of all the chapters would not allow a chapter without the okay of the police department. They work a lot of times hand-in-hand and trust is needed along with respect. I even tried to get it agreed they would only support the children in the court rooms, not in the home against abusive ex spouses or bullying in the schools. I was willing to take anything in the hopes the police would witness all of the positive benefits and slowly allow them to increase their normal duties.

        Not every biker group is bad. We should all know that. I think it’s because we have the Hells Angels chapter up here is the reason the police department refused. It broke my heart because we have so many children who would have greatly benefited from DACA.

        It must’ve been about three years ago I tried to do this. It was the Veterans biker chapter members who were wanting to help the children too. A win-win for all. I guess sometimes we just don’t succeed no matter how hard we try. I still have all of the emails with the secretary of the club. I can’t for the life of me remember his nickname though. I’ve been trying the whole time I’ve been writing. All I remember is it was unique and he was a great guy to communicate with, couldn’t ask for anyone better in his position.
        Be well good Treepers, and stay strong,
        Ma’iingankwe
        Please excuse any grammatical errors, I’ve been having problems catching the obvious today. 🙃

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    • Guy-Blanc Déploré says:

      Here’s a US organization in a similar vein:
      http://www.bikersagainstbulliesusa.com/
      🙂

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  7. Lucille says:

    Just because it’s so beautiful…

    Big Sur, California

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  8. MaryfromMarin says:

    The 21st century equivalent of the Twinkie Defense:

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    • stella says:

      Blame the victim. That will do it!

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      • smiley says:

        REALLY looks like they have no legitimate defense there, and they know it…desperately grabbing at anything they can concoct.

        absurd.

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        • nwtex says:

          Wonder if there is a legit reason for “going there” or did they just pull it out of a hat.
          That Ambien can be crazzzzy stuff I know 2 ppl who had bizarre episodes when taking it. Scary stuff. Now one won’t even take an Alka Seltzer.

          Did his partner make any statement re the shooting, yet. umm probably not.

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          • smiley says:

            maybe that trigger-happy somalian lousy cop was on Ambien /sarc

            who knows…could be they’re desperately searching for evidence as per some case law they may have found that supports an Ambien defense ?

            I’m just speculating there.

            but, imo, that’s still no excuse here for firing AT HER, in the abdomen, several times…not as warning shots, either…she was UNARMED…what threat did she pose ???

            none

            he’s guilty of murder..cold blooded…jmo.

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          • auscitizenmom says:

            My best friend took Ambien. Several times I called her after she had taken it and we had long conversations that she didn’t remember at all. There were other things she did without knowing what she was doing. I was always afraid that she would get in the car and go somewhere.

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    • benzy says:

      Apparently, Minnesota (the home of Al Franken) has different laws, making it legal to shoot someone IF they have taken Ambien? If that is not the case, what possible DIFFERENCE would it make in her shooting?

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  9. TheLastDemocrat says:

    My lemonade stand post disappeared?

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    • nwtex says:

      Try refreshing the page. …maybe 2-3 times. Some ppl have success holding the “ctrl” as they hit the refresh button. .Also you could try clearing your cache and cookies and then sign in all over and it may be there waiting for you.

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  10. sunnydaze says:

    Haven’t heard this in years. Old Joni Mitchell

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  11. millwright says:

    Best we blame ourselves, Stella ! We – honest tax-paying, law-abiding citizens – have abrogated our duty to control our servants ! When we permit them – and less than savory segments of our society – to attack those select individuals we empower with arrest powers and lethal force without rising in support of our police we send all the “good” individuals contemplating a career as a LEO the clear message to go away ! In consequence, we get – for political, social and practical reasons – a pool of less qualified, less stable, less adaptable and less committed officers with arrest powers empowered to use lethal force. This lady was – to some extent a victim of her own ignorance – making an assumption that was “bone deep” in her psyche; police meant safety and help in her life experiences. But she was in another nation, another culture, and in a high-stress situation in unfamiliar circumstances.

    FWIW, I’d like to know what sort of “pajamas” ( color, style, etc) she was wearing. Just as I would like to know how she approached the patrol . Did she have something ( like a cell phone ) in her hand ? Don’t know about y’all, but here in NJ I’m gonna do everything in my power to keep any officer I encounter in “Condition Two” . In a traffic stop, that means immediate acknowledgement of his signal. Pulling over at the first safe opportunity, driver’s window down as much as you feel comfortable with, car in park with keys on the dash in plain sight and hands on the steering wheel. When documents are requested, ( I know he already knows all the vehicle details ) I’ll tell him where they are and only move ( slowly) to present them. Seem silly or “over-the-top ? Risking getting shot by a nervous cop stopping me because my vehicle fit a BOLO alert I don’t know about is even sillier !

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  12. JenMG says:

    Treepers please pray for my seriously ill girl who was admitted to the hospital tonight with severe bacterial infection. Through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ pray he grant His mercy and healing upon His child and loyal servant Keira. Amen.

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  13. citizen817 says:

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  14. smiley says:

    Fig Tree, Stanwell Park

    1909

    o/c

    Oatley Bay

    ca 1925

    o/c

    Sydney Long (1871-1955) ~ Australia/England ~ Impressionism, Art Nouveau

    🙂

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  15. Dora says:

    Brent Jensen is a landscape painter whose intention is to depict the colors of nature. He describes his style as impressionist.

    While he lived in Santa Ana, many of his marine and landscape subjects were from the Monterey coastal area. He also paints lighthouses in Maine, oyster boats in Florida, market places in Seattle and vineyards in California. He lives in Northern California, on Mare Island.

    Brent Jensen – Napa Vineyard Church (2016)

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  16. nwtex says:

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  17. nwtex says:

    Society is not well.

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  18. rashamon says:

    I have become the “parent” of two kittens who are still half feral and half cuddly. I am on the list with the no-kill shelter for finding a foster home, but… Given the expertise of those in The Treehouse, if I can corral these cuties to take them to the vet, in addition to neutering and vaccines, should I have them declawed?

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    • WeeWeed says:

      Not unless you are going to keep them. Declawing leaves them defenseless and tends to encourage them to bite.

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    • Old Hillbillt says:

      rashamon:

      If you de-claw them, they will need to be forever “indoor cats”.

      Their front claws are their main defensive weapons in the cat world outside of your house. If you take away their front claws the are (for all intents and purposes) defenseless. Please think it through, Thanks!

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      • mztore says:

        Don’t own a cat at this time, but recently heard that to declaw a cat was the same as removing their digit to the bone. Very painful and not always safe.

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    • rashamon says:

      Thank you all. Such a great bunch of experience.

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    • BakoCarl says:

      Keep up with as much personal contact and, eventually, petting and handling as you can fit in. They’ll come around . . . it just takes time . . . and if they’re kittens, the result is almost a guaranteed certainty.

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      • rashamon says:

        You would enjoy this menagerie. I have indoor rescue birds, a family of cardinals and another of hummingbirds outdoors, a baby squirrel who now plays with the kittens and a great lab puppy next door who is trying to determine his role in this family. I have never raised cats, so your expertise is so welcome.

        They are sweet. We have “discussions” about playing fairly with the other creatures. They think I’m crazy, but so far, so good. Papa Cardinal rules.

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        • “Papa Cardinal rules.”
          In my family too…My dad is a Cooley Cardinal (HS in Detroit) & his grandmother was Hattie Cardinal!

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          • rashamon says:

            Your dad obviously didn’t sport red feathers and a beak!

            If I can catch them, I will try the nail clippers. At about four pounds, they are swifter than me although they show some taming with every hour. Our extended family and neighbors have rescue cats, older and declawed when adopted, so these darlings will probably remain within our community. What characters!

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            • Our younger cat was rescued from near the dumpster at my husband’s work. She’d been owned but abandoned & remained a tad skittish throughout her life. Michael would grab her by the scruff of her neck (like her mom), wrap her in a towel, & allow only one paw out at a time for clipping purposes. Even so, she’d put up a pretty big fuss & rarely got the due/dew? claws cut because of it. Bless you guys in your family expansion!
              I can neither confirm nor deny any info on my father’s alleged attire in any time-frame!

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    • tigsmom says:

      Please do a Google video search of the procedure, then let your heart make that decision. I’ve two former feral kitties that only use their scratch posts.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Then, they MUST stay inside, because they are defenseless.

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      • rashamon says:

        OK, will do the neutering and vaccines first, then let those who adopt them figure our the declawing. Not a big deal for me. What’s a few scratches.

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          🙂

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        • Jacqueline Taylor Robson says:

          Declawing can also cause litter box problems because of the pain of declawing. I have always thought it was a cruel thing to do. Get a good scratch post, and everytime they try to scratch anything else, gently get them to do the post. My kitty has a carpet covered “Kitty-Condo” that she has torn the heck out of, but she loves it and never scratches anything else now. Just rub a little catnip on it, and they get the idea soon enough. Good Luck! They will be worth it.

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          • nwtex says:

            My cats preferred furniture to scratching post….simply because they were obstinate XO Destroyed my couch. I was fine with it. Conversation piece.

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      • nwtex says:

        And no guarantee that WILL stay inside. My cats have broken out window screens and also leaped over me to get out the door. hahaha xxooo

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          My friend has a cat that was declawed by another friend of hers who didn’t treat it right. So she adopted it. She lets it out during the day and tries desperately to have it in before dark. If she can’t, she stays awake all night worrying about it.

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    • Lucille says:

      Declawing isn’t just taking out the claws. The procedure removes the knuckle and makes the front paws small.

      My older cat was declawed by her previous owner and then when he got tired of her biting, he threw her outside to fend for herself. She’s such a beauty, but with the biting, I doubt if anyone else would want her should something happen to me. So take into consideration the kitties’ future lives should you decide not to keep them.

      Feral cats are special needs animals. Look on the Internet for info on the care/nurturing of ferals. If you want to protect your furniture, you’ll have to read up on that, too. My younger cat was feral and he ripped up the wall corners, door frames and throw pillows. I finally discovered that he will do the clawing bit on the coco mat by the front door and that seems to satisfy his need to sharpen his claws. Ferals are definitely challenging.

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      • rashamon says:

        You all have provided such great information. I have housed just about every animal my kids brought home, but tiny kittens are new. Now I know where to go for fast and smart answers, especially on a weekend! Thanks so much.

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    • nwtex says:

      Personally I wouldnever declaw. I’ve heard of terrible, terrible, terrible, stories. And a former friend did it to her cat against my advice and a few years later the poor kitty was miserable and found it difficult to walk on any surface.
      Do a google search.

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    • Garrison Hall says:

      ” . . .should I have them declawed? . . .” Some advice from decades of cat companionship: never have your cats declawed. If you’re concerned about trimming their claws, don’t be. If they’re outside they’ll take care of the problem themselves. If they’re inside you can buy inexpensive scratching posts for them to use. A little catnip will make the post very attractive to even feral kitties. Our newest edition, a once-feral (no more!) kitten has found a back bookcase with some old magazines that she loves to scratch on.
      Our other cats like an impervious carpet to scratch on but little ‘Tink likes the old magazines. That’s OK with me because I was going to dump the magazine anyway. While I commend you for saving the two kittens, if you’re worried about your furniture, it might be best to let the no-kill shelter find a home for them.

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    • JustSomeInputFromAz says:

      “rashamon” please no to de-claw, also one tip: Cats hate tin foil, if you want them in your home, get a good scratching post and use tin foil to train them where they can and cannot scratch or jump onto….good luck!

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  19. Dora says:

    I can think of a few members of congress I’d like to send into that drum.

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  20. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  21. Dora says:

    I can’t read this without feeling tears well up in my eyes. If there is a lesson here, it’s that we should always be good to our loved ones. We never know when the last time really is the last time.

    ===

    William and Harry’s regret over their ‘rush’ to end last phone call with Diana

    The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry have spoken of their enduring regret over their last conversation with their mother, disclosing they had been desperate to rush off the telephone and get back to playing instead.

    The Duke and Prince, who were 15 and 12 when Diana, Princess of Wales, died in a car crash, said they had been busy at Balmoral when she called them, and had no notion that the short phone call would be their last.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/22/princes-william-harrytell-regret-last-conversation-mother/

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    • amwick says:

      Just between us, the last time I saw my dad, I was running out the door to go trick or treeting. It was Halloween, and I was 12.. I know how those young men must feel. It is a giant cut that stays with you. Human nature, whether you are royalty, or deplorable.

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  22. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the LORD’S name is to be praised.”
    Psalms 113:3 (KJV)

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  23. duchess01 says:

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  24. duchess01 says:

    Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!

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  25. youme says:

    This video is of a Utah Phillips song, “Starlight On The Rails,” from Rosalie’s cd tribute to Utah, “Strangers In Another Country” Exactly how we all feel…strangers in our own country

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  26. Dora says:

    Wow! That’s something!

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  27. “Thanks to First American Muslim President of America , we have wonderfully stupid spectacle of muslims manning security and airports when the fact that its the islamic jihadi threat that is primary reason for the heightened security in the first place !”
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/07/illinois-muslima-migrant-who-worked-at-ohare-airport-charged-with-aiding-isis-wanted-to-bury-unbelievers-alive

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  28. Just wanted to let you guys know that you are an answer to prayer! I’ve been sharing a bit about my encounters here with my husband. He’s been praying for me for years that God would be bringing healing to some of the brokenness in my heart…& you guys & this place are becoming a part of that process!

    Thanks for this place of Fellowship, Freedom, Faith…& Fun! You have been providing a place of Refreshment, Rest, Reinvigoration, & Restoration. Thank you…All of You…for these Gifts!

    Blessings, in Christ,
    Valerie

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  29. golsono says:

    wr recently experiencied an instant death. hard not to be angry. model family. not fair. my wife struggling to cope. angry with God

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    • The book I Wasn’t Ready to Say Good-bye helped me and includes grief from sudden and unexpected death. Books by George Anderson helped me for grief support. They were my only way to cope at times with pain and separation. Your feelings are understandable and it is important to allow them. You say that your wife is struggling. These books may help her. I will look for you on open thread if there is any way for me to help you. Your helping your wife through grief will be seen and every act of kindness and care for her will mean more than you can know now. There is much that cannot be understood during our time here. Your acts of love will be seen and understood for all time, and one day the answers that you seek will be given.

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    • So sorry for your loss. Struggling to cope & anger are normal. God is the source of comfort ultimately. May you each come to that place of peace in time…but it does seem that certain wounds in life never completely heal–yet the Lord can give grace & strength to go on in spite of the confusion & pain.

      Psalm 119:50 (NIV) “My comfort in my suffering is this: Your promise preserves my life.”

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    • So sorry to hear about your loss. Unexpected and instant death is a heartbreak …no way to prepare for it.

      At times like this all one can do is to be carried by others. Rest assured you and your wife will be in my daily prayers.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      I’m so sorry.

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  30. If dear jackphatz ever sees this story of mine, it should be at least a year from now. It may offer some consolation then, not now.

    Some 50 years ago, my two daughters and husband and I had just moved back to the States after several years abroad. We were outside visiting friends at their apartment pool, having a couple of beers and watching the girls explore the enclosed patio. It was a lovely, warm day.

    Suddenly I heard a soft splash, glanced over, and saw our two-year old floating face-down in the pool. I didn’t even think, but jumped fully-clothed into the pool right next to her. I lifted her up with a big smile on my face, as if to say, wasn’t that fun? but inside I was trembling like a leaf.

    She looked at me with a dreamy look as the pool water streamed off – I think she was marveling at how the bottom of the pool looked. She was not coughing and sputtering, so I said in my nice mommy voice, I think it’s time to come in now. We went right home. I felt soooo guilty!

    Here is what I conclude from this: God is not cruel. If for any reason my daughter had not been rescued in time, she would have met her Maker in complete calm Peace.

    I firmly believe that jack’s little granddaughter did not suffer one bit. I believe G-d just reached down and rescued her little soul before she recognized what was happening.

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    • kyasgrandma says:

      I have not lost a child in this way but I want to thank you for your courage in sharing your story of near loss.

      It is almost impossible to share these stories with others. Until you have lost a child or nearly lost a child, I am not sure you can understand.

      So thank you very much.

      I firmly believe each child has a guardian angel.

      Matthew 18:10:
      “Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you,
      That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.”

      This verse brings me comfort in many circumstances – both personal and non-personal. A child in dire circumstances is never alone – no matter the outcome on this earth.

      And so – I pray without ceasing: Lord Jesus Christ, son of the most high God, have mercy on all of us. Always.

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    • Thank you for sharing that experience…it’s hard to unmask the soul especially in areas so closely associated with pain & near loss.

      3 of our four kids have had near drownings. Our oldest before age 2 in Traverse Bay, MI. He was used to the lake water near my parents’ Cottage but the bottom didn’t drop off as quickly as the Bay. Someone took a series of photos & in the last one basically just his nose, mouth, & cheeks are still out of the water. I was wading nearby (pregnant w/ his brothers) & one of us grabbed him…but I don’t think he realized the danger nor did he get afraid then.

      A couple years later that same son was on a midnight boat ride with me, my husband, my brother, & his 2 similarly aged kids. The boat started taking on water & when slowing down to check the situation water gushed over the back end & the whole boat sank in a manner of seconds (the hull had a puncture we didn’t know about at the time & what should have been an air space was largely filled with water), leaving just the tip bobbing above the surface. Our son, who couldn’t swim at the time but was wearing a life jacket, was terrified & clawed bloody gashes in my neck as my husband swam to get us help. It was a pretty eventful evening & even was written up in the local paper because so many people had heard us shouting for help & word does get around a small town.

      I’ll save the second son’s near drowning for a separate post. My youngest & only girl was knocked off the dock by my parents’ Cottage by my youngest special needs son accidentally, due to his own balance & equilibrium problems. I was in a beach chair just feet away & snatched her up out of the water before even my husband did. Like your daughter, she was also face down in the water & seemed entirely unfazed by things. My heart still speeds up just thinking about it.

      My youngest son is the only one without near drowning…unless you count coming close to drowning in his own fluids with Congestive Heart Failure as a 2 pound-ish infant prior to his Open Heart Surgery at 2 months old. With 2 Heart Surgeries, a Brain Surgery, & a Liver Transplant he has likely approached death more than the rest of our family combined. His life & related matters are subjects populating much of my writing…& my life…He’s scheduled for surgery #18 this Thursday so we should be spending that night back at the University of Michigan Hospital again…

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    • This is following on from my post here 7/23/17 at 10:23pm…

      Our second son’s near drowning was a pretty big deal for our whole family. All four of our kids had been invited to a neighbor boy’s birthday party. He lived across the street with his grandfather who practiced a religion that didn’t believe in celebrating holidays or birthdays, so the party was at a different location. Since we had to take the kids there & pick them up later we decided to go out to dinner for the interim. Our kids were pretty young then & we couldn’t afford babysitting nor did we have family/friends to trade off childcare with so we basically virtually never got out on dates for years…

      Anyway the house in question had a backyard pool. It was above ground mostly and round & it was much deeper in the center than on the perimeter. We told the adults in attendance, there were many & we only knew the birthday boys mother, that our kids were allowed in the pool only with direct adult supervision because they were not strong swimmers. We set up various rules for our kids privately, including how to handle their special needs brother…& then we went to eat. This was before either of us had a cell phone so we were just planning to pick them up at the end of the party.

      We got to the parking lot at the restaurant & I was really overcome with anxiety for our kids safety. It was an intense feeling that I couldn’t seem to shake. We talked things over for a while & prayed together & ultimately decided to trust our kids into the Lord’s care. We prayed for His Protection over them & then we had our meal. I was intermittently concerned during the meal (I’m not a “typical female” in that that wasn’t my usual approach, not that I often got chances “away” from my kids) & we’d re-discuss again & my husband was convinced that we could/should trust our kids to God’s care.

      When we picked them up at the end of the party they all ran to us chattering saying “Brandon almost drowned!!!” & then they told us the story. Various kids had been in the pool & eventually only ours were left swimming. Though quite a few adults were in the yard talking & drinking apparently no one was paying attention to our kids. While they hung on the edges of the pool they all were fine & I think their feet could even touch the bottom, which may have sloped down into a point, like a funnel. Anyway somehow Brandon (our second son & Josiah’s twin) ended up more toward the center of the pool, I think he had attempted to swim across. He got into trouble & kept going under & sputtering. His older brother, Nathaniel (whose near drowning experiences were in my previous post) decided he needed to help B (after the kids tried to get adults’ attention to no avail). N swam over an went under to push his brother up to air and also to push him toward the edge. When N did this he wasn’t sure he was a strong enough swimmer to make it back & knew full well he might drown himself but determined to rescue his little brother anyway. And of course Josiah & Clarissa had a front row seat to it all!

      God did watch over our kids & protect them & we weren’t present to intervene in any of this apart from prayer & prior instructions. I honestly don’t know if we made the right call about continuing our “date” after my “premonition”…it was almost like if we hadn’t taken that step away from our kids we maybe never could have ever fully done it (apart from leaving them with trusted family), especially because of overwhelming & intricate special needs dynamics. To this day I still pray when Josiah goes walking far enough to cross the street. Even though he’s 21 he sometimes forgets to look before crossing the street. I literally saw him almost hit in a gas station driveway Up North this summer. How tight should we hold on to them? Even if we do everything “right” (which is impossible) we cannot control the world around them/us. A close friend of my brother’s dropped dead at 17 of a brain aneurysm…

      I too hope that jackphatz doesn’t read any of these posts until much further down the road…but I also wanted to share about some of our near misses…& to thank God “for there but by the grace of God go I”…

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  31. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen

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  32. duchess01 says:

    SUNDAY, JULY 23, 2017
    The ETERNAL LORD of LIFE and the King of Fears

    http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2014/07/the-eternal-lord-of-life-

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  33. TreeperInTraining says:

    Two good things happening….

    Things are heating up on the Awan brothers AND it looks like Eichenwald may have been fired by Newsweek.

    Awan:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/awan-brothers-busted-fbi-seizes-smashed-hard-drives-debbie-wasserman-schultz-aides-home/

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