July 21st – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #183

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1,595 Responses to July 21st – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #183

  1. md070264 says:

    Sun Tzu and the tale of the 2 concubines,,,,,,,Spicer and Priebus maybe?

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    • tazz2293 says:

      For those not familiar with the tale you should read.

      … Thereupon Sun Tzu said: “The King is only fond of words, and cannot translate them into deeds.”

      After that, Ho Lu saw that Sun Tzu was one who knew how to handle an army, and finally appointed him general. In the west, he defeated the Ch‘u State and forced his way into Ying, the capital; to the north he put fear into the States of Ch‘i and Chin, and spread his fame abroad amongst the feudal princes. And Sun Tzu shared in the might of the King.

      One principle shown in this tale that transcends the two thousand year gap is that a demonstration of skills is better than a simple interview. This is a powerful realization when you think about it. How many interviews could you have improved on if you set out to demonstrate your skills and skillset instead of merely showing how good you could answer a series of questions? How often are we told our actions speak louder than words? This is a classic principle that has not changed over time. Consider the quote, the more things change the more they stay the same.


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      • tazz2293 says:

        If not clear. Sun Tzu’s Art of War is what Trump is following.. Trump is Sun Tzu

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        • Gil says:

          We are both thinking in the right direction. For every questionable turn, dont you see a fairly appropriate connection to sun tzu? This is the chess game.
          I have to get a copy of art of war to highlight. Funny, I just saw a nice looking copy at costco yesterday, then saw it was printed in China. Ill find a nice annotated one printed here.
          I want to give it to my son when he is older and he asks “how did PDJT do it mom?” I’ll be able to show him!

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  2. excerpt…read the whole theory,interesting.

    The team members selected by Mueller have nothing to do with Russian expertise. One would think they would at least put a expert investigator with a background in Russian espionage which they have not.

    However on this team they have experts in white collar crime. With how many years Trump has been under audit by a weaponized IRS don’t you think they would have found something by now. Who has not been under that same IRS scrutiny?

    They have a former Watergate team member. As you know Hillary Clinton was also a member of the Watergate team but was fired. This team member would know that and for what reasons.

    Counter terrorist prosecutors also on Mueller’s team appear to have no connection to Russian investigations in fact Russia has been one of the strongest allies against terrorists and no Act of terrorism Has Come From Russia. Hillary Clinton however has direct ties to terrorist organizations such as Al-Qaeda and isil through clandestine operations where the CIA armed both. Benghazi being part of a CIA Outpost and the multiple lies that came from Hillary Clinton’s office regarding it.

    Also a prosecutor of organized crime families including the gambinos. A few years ago the head of the Gambino family still in prison instructed his son to reach out to Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton afterwards vowed to change Rico laws. From what we know of the rumors of the Clinton Foundation that there is often a quid pro quo relationship between those that Lobby the clintons and those that get what they want.
    All around the more I look at this team’s roster Mueller does not seem equipped at all to go after Trump in any significant way. But almost every team member there is something to do with the scandals of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      I’ve been thinking this was the real deal for quite a while. However, the swamp being so swampy, I didn’t post my thoughts and am trying not to get too hopeful.

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      • jeans2nd says:

        That is not like you Sharon. You even took on Fox News on twitter – Sharon’s tweet was featured by Howard Kurtz on Media Buzz, folks. Your voice needs to be heard more often, Sharon.
        And, btw, the connection with the Don Jr. mtg et al has been made. And yes, it def involves the Clintons, and many more. The prob is, no one cares anymore.

        Thank you for speaking for us.

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        • SharonKinDC says:

          Wow! I didn’t realize (or forgot) Kurtz featured one of my tweets. How cool! Haven’t the slightest idea which one it was, lol!

          As for not mentioning this theory, I think Trump & Co. are willing to go along w/ the ‘they’re out to get Trump’ message, whether accurate or as a smoke screen, so sometimes, I feel it’s better to keep mum.

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      • distracted2 says:

        The swamp is so swampy, it doesn’t even resemble a swamp anymore. It’s so much worse. As much as I’d like this scenario to be true, I don’t believe it is.

        Mueller most definitely put together a team of white-collar crime attorneys who have no experience delving into issues with Russia, unless those issues involve money, but they are not investigating Hillary. They are investigating our president and his family and their business.

        The likelihood that all of those Hillary-supporting attorneys are looking to put a noose around her neck is a million to one. And that’s being generous.

        This witch hunt’s only mission is to find some dirt on our president. And they won’t stop looking until they find something.


    • wyntre says:

      I’m all for prosecuting HRC but what about her boss?????

      No one ever suggests going after the real culprit, Hussein O!

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    • JoD says:

      Great idea, wish it were true, but a collection of Clinton donor attorneys, one of whom worked for the Clinton Foundation are NOT working on Clinton. This would would be a massive conflict. Those attorneys would not be permitted to work on a case that involved Clinton. Unfortunately, the obvious reason that they were chosen is obviously accurate.


    • Another Reddit kids theory from “GoingFlyFishing”

      If this goes down in a positive way, I feel like Rosenstein, Comey, Sessions, and Mueller will turn out to actually be Patriots. My guess is Comey knew damn well that he couldn’t do anything by himself when he let Hillary off the hook, because the DOJ was completely corrupted. So it was planned that he would do some shady stuff publicly, to get fired. This allows him to hide behind the scenes, and Rosenstein appoints Mueller.

      Now Mueller was tasked with investigating ALL ties to collusion with foreign governments that effected the Election. That would include the Democrats ties. He brings in people that appear to be friends of the Democrats to join his team. The whole deck appears to be stacked against President Trump.

      Sessions recuses himself since he was a firm Trump supporter. Even Rosenstein says uninvolved in the investigation. This may be done so whenever Mueller holds a press conference to reveal his findings, that the President is clean, and actually he recommends charges be brought against members of the past administration, nobody can claim that it was political.

      This is my hope. No idea if it will play out this way.
      I just keep thinking back to Trey Gowdy saying that history will be kinder to James Comey. At one point Mueller and Comey had to be honorable men of the law. Let’s hope they still are, and want to drain the corruption out of our Government.

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      • nkmommy says:

        Your point is interesting given that new FBI Dir ctor Wray is buddies with both Comey and Meuller friends m previous DOJ stints.


  3. GoldenReT says:

    So much of what is now unfolding in the US reminds me of events that played out in Canada during the Conservative Party of Canada’s tenure. (2006-2015 with two minorities, one majority )
    Although your scenario is bigger and badder than anything we saw here, much is familiar.

    Boxes I’ve ticked so far:
     Establishment political party forcefully injected with a strong dose of grassroots
     Unwillingness of opposition, media, and elites to accept said entity
     Disdain for an elected party leader who is not from the elite and/or who refuses to endorse “accepted” views and policies
     Subtle and overt interference in elections and governance by foreign funded entities masquerading as non-profit do-gooders
     Rejection of election outcomes (we had one outright opposition attempt to simply “take over” just months after an election)
     Unrelenting media collusion and attacks; everything the government did or tried to do was wrong, evil, mean, like the Nazis
     Unwillingness of many federal “public servants” to work on behalf of the government of the day; leaks; eg. accusations of intimidation of scientists; rejection of real “science” and “facts”
     Unrelenting efforts by opposition and media to find a scandal that could end the government

    Yes, this is absolutely a fight for the future of western civilization.

    PS – Suspicious Cat may require back up – perhaps it’s time to draft a Baffled Beagle; Puzzled Pug; or Dubious Dalmatian.

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  4. Bobjasper says:

    Yea I tend to agree mueller ain’t after trump

    The Bloomberg article and something about Rex tillerson are curious timing

    I don’t think it is real and whoever fed Bloomberg that info is scared

    The purpose of that article is to goad trump into shutting it down

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  5. MfM says:

    It’s Official!!!

    On Monday evening, July 24, the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, will become the eighth president to visit a national jamboree. President Trump’s visit will precede that evening’s stadium show. Experiencing a presidential visit is a once-in-a-lifetime experience — all Scouts, Venturers, leaders, and staff should begin preparing for one of the Jamboree’s signature moments.


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  6. budmc says:

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  7. sunnydaze says:

    Bummer. Looks like McCain is “back to work”. Aaaaargh.


    • RedBallExpress says:

      It will all be a show the MSM will play along with at this point. Believe me. You don’t get a hole cut in your head and bounce right back to work.

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  8. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Well, this is interesting. The Art of the Deal in the making, again?

    Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram)

    7/21/17, 7:35 PM
    Capito to join Trump at National Scout Jamboree in WV this wknd. Keep in mind Capito is a key vote on health care


  9. budmc says:

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  10. Deplorable Canuck says:

    This may be a stupid question….do we know what Mueller is actually investigating? Or is everything assumed? E.g. the media is jumping all over the WaPo article about going after Trump’s business links…but again an unnamed source…..

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    • Bobjasper says:

      Nope we dont

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    • The info is unsourced, therefore we can do no better than to guess. It’s logical Mueller would investigate President Trump’s business links. Also those of his family members working in/with his many companies. Any investigation to determine possible crimes or misdeeds would ordinarily look at financial transactions. Unlike unrecorded conversations, they produce documents.


    • ALEX says:

      Keep in mind it’s perfectly legal for anyone contacted by Mueller to speak out…It happened all the time during Whitewater investigation…

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  11. budmc says:

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    • David says:

      He is telling the deep state to Obstruct Justice and the Rule of Law to ensure the Constitution and the United States is completely destroyed. UNBELIEVABLE! There is no real code here…it seems to be very clear. He must be very worried about Grand Jury Investigations and Indictments…this is why they are resisting and delaying giving documents to Judicial Watch for Clinton Emails and Louis IRS investigation etc. Judicial Watch is going to inform President Trump and he will go after the documents since Judicial Watch is helping President Trump drain the Swamp.

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  13. Jimmy Jack says:

    Treeper Alert

    You should all know that Dana Loesch’s husband called Sundance’s tweet “#fakenews garbage”

    You may want to show some support if you are on twitter.

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  14. jeans2nd says:

    “In the months leading up to the infamous raid on Kim Dotcom’s New Zealand mansion and his now defunct cloud storage site Megaupload, the entrepreneur was under surveillance.”

    “Between 16 December 2011 to 22 March 2012, New Zealand used the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB,) agency to spy on the private communications of Kim and Mona Dotcom, plus Megaupload co-defendant Bram van der Kolk.”

    The U.S. was also involved in spying on Kim DotCom. Recall this was during the OBAMA Administration.

    “GCSB is an intelligence agency of the New Zealand government responsible for spying on external entities. It is forbidden by law from conducting surveillance on its own citizens or permanent residents in the country”

    “there was a total of 87 breaches”

    “NZHerald is reporting that the spying on Kim Dotcom appears to have gone on for two months longer than previously admitted.”

    Shall we enter the Time Machine?
    Trump claims Obama wiretapped him during campaign; Obama refutes it

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  15. SR says:

    Now what Session is feeling from deep state and fake news. They are attacking him now and he is trying to play by the rules as a nice guy. Hillary and Obama gave special consul to PTrump what Hillary suppose to get. So Session you can save everyone and come back in game.


  16. jeans2nd says:

    Read The Forensicator’s review last week. It holds up.

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  17. George says:

    I don’t think Mcconnell or Ryan could ever be on an intelligence committee. Is there a waste, fraud and abuse committee. Going down like a Democrat. collusion maybe, obstruction for sure


  18. From the Fuel Prices Earlier Today..
    It’s ALL Important to Us…
    I checked over at South Carolina Fuel Prices…
    (I’m in South East N.C.)
    Fuel Prices in South Carolina…
    Drum Roll..
    $ 1.69 ! Gallon.. (In South Carolina)
    It IS $1.99 here
    Prices I’ve NOT seen since, I think ….. SINCE just after 9/11???
    If President Trump were to release the SPR, (727 Million Barrels) of Saudi light crude, OH My….
    Look for prices to drop another .50 cents?
    THINK of the Economic Engine CRANKING -UP!
    Lower Food Prices!
    Lower,, MADE-IN-THE-USA goods!
    Lower transportation cost(s)!
    I looked for graphs on Gas prices, (Historical) this is the closest one I could find)

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    • wheatietoo says:

      What will make fuel prices go down, Crossthread, is more refineries coming on line.

      There are several in the process of being built.
      I think I read somewhere that there are 11 new refineries in the works…which if true, is great!
      But as you can imagine, it takes a little while to get them built & then up and running.

      Oil Prices are at about where they need to be…because if they drop any lower, it will hurt our Domestic Producers.

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  19. http://truthfeed.com/kamala-harris-money-trail/93698/

    California Democrat Senator Kamala Harris, who is being touted as a possible presidential candidate, has been linked to a large donation to the firm that helped promote Senator Bernie Sanders during the 2016 presidential campaign.

    According to recently revealed information, Harris paid the online media firm, Revolution Messaging LLC, $400,000, from July of 2016 and continuing on into this year, well after the presidential election was over.

    Despite claiming that she’s not planning to run against Trump for president in 2020, many are saying that these continued donations are indicative of the opposite, and that Harris is indeed considering a presidential run.

    While many Democrats see Harris as a viable candidate, especially compared to the more radical left-wing choices the DNC has to field, other liberals see her as too “centrist” for their liking, as the Democratic Party has gravitated towards far left ideology.

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  20. Joyful Noise says:

    Beware of movie theaters near you! I went to see the new movie about Dunkirk (love the history). In addition to the regular previews and ads before the feature film, there was a little propaganda infomercial with Al “the global warming savior” Gore against President Trump. Boy, it really riled me to see our dear president attacked. At the conclusion of the indoctrination, I heard a man give a raspberry. Then, I said “Go Trump!” There were another group of people behind us who said some things against our president. My family gave me the riot act on the way home for speaking up politically in a theater. They felt they might be physically assaulted in liberal Oregon. Maybe I should have been quiet, now I’m in the doghouse with the fam. It may not be the appropriate place, but it pains me to see our president being misrepresented. No more Regal Theaters for me, and I let them know it.

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