HHS Secretary Dr Tom Price Interview with Dana Bash – Discussion Senate Healthcare Bill…

HHS Secretary Dr. Tom Price appears on CNN State of The Union to discuss the legislative repair efforts for an ObamaCare overhaul, and overall healthcare reform efforts.

Notice how the various “concerns”, amid all of the politically charged discussion, are always centered around medicaid – or the state run, taxpayer-funded, low income, healthcare coverage. Not a single oppositional argument is ever made about negative impacts for those who actually pay for their own healthcare coverage. The opposition arguments are entirely framed around benefits toward those who pay little to nothing.

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There is a parallel, comparative and representative example of what President Trump’s smart policy team is trying to do with healthcare.  the comparison actually lies within another set of economic policy objectives. However, it takes elevation in thinking to understand the approach and see the similarity.

The comparative reform example is within the banking and finance industry.

For those who have read all the statements, watched the hearings, listened intently to Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, you might have already noted their approach to working around the ridiculously burdensome Dodd Frank regulations within the banking and finance sector. – OUTLINED HERE

Essentially, instead of trying to untangle all the complexities of decades long DC constructs enmeshing and enlarging the bureaucracy around banking, Trump’s team is constructing a parallel system. Cliff Noted for Brevity:

[…] The goal of a 21st Century “Glass Steagall”, ie. Commercial division -vs- Investment division, is created by generating an entirely new system of banks under different regulation. The currently remaining ten U.S. “big banks” operate as “investment division banks” per se’, and the lesser regulated community banks/credit unions (new), with under $10 billion in assets, operate as would be the “Commercial Side”.

Instead of firewalling an individual bank internally within its organization, the Trump/Mnuchin plan looks to be firewalling the banking ‘system’ within the U.S. internally. Hope that makes sense. (read full outline)

Instead of trying to fix a mess of institutional bureaucracy, and nightmarish legislative complexity that might take years, Trump’s “America-First” economic empowerment financial mechanism works around the existing programs by leaving the existing burden of compliance upon the banking and financial entities that created the need for the bureaucracy in the first place; and simultaneously eliminates smaller financial enterprises from those regulations.

As a consequence the lower tier, middle-class financial system, is unleashed and free to operate. This parallel, and much more efficient pathway, is the same approach Trump’s Healthcare Policy initiatives are taking toward the health insurance marketplace.

Stay with me….

Like the financial system, there are too many complex special interests enmeshed within the construct of ObamaCare to generate any reasonable consensus on a one-size-fits-all rebuild. Right now there are legions of paid actors, paid interests, all trying to secure their own individual stake within the aggregate healthcare market.

Big Pharma, Big Labor (unions), Big Corporations (U.S. CoC) and Big Ed (finance and delivery) all have stakes in ObamaCare. That’s a bazillion lobbying interests, representing massive institutional systems, containing trillions of dollars, all simultaneously dispatching their Big Gun Lawyer/Lobbyists to protect their financial position.

♦Unions don’t want health insurance back in/on their liabilities. ♦U.S. CoC Multinational Corporations (Wall Street) don’t want the liability of worker health insurance back on their ledgers. ♦Big Pharma does not want limits to how much they can charge (profits) and they want a small group of decision-makers they can purchase and influence. ♦Big Ed doesn’t want government to lose control over college education subsidies. etc. etc.

{{{Yikes – Piranhas}}}

The initial goal of ObamaCare was manipulatively sold by controlling interests as a program to insure the uninsured, approximately 30 million people (2009). However, that was a farce clearly visible in hindsight. The actual goal(s) were established by all of the aforementioned interests.

Unfortunately, the ObamaCare scheme enmeshed, became self-actual, and weaponized itself -as predicted- against the ordinary middle class American. 150+ million people punished. Essentially, if you are not on medicare/medicaid, or eligible therein, you got screwed on the individual market scheme.

But that’s hindsight. Done is done. That horse has left the barn, rode out of town, and is long gone…. Previous healthcare insurance toothpaste is not only out of tube, but dried, encrusted and licked away by the horse that galloped by… Done is done.

So… understanding the system has self-actuated, Trump’s team has a new approach to reversing the damage to the individual healthcare market similar to the parallel track approach of the economic financial and banking market.

The medicare (federal health insurance) and medicaid (state health insurance) systems will remain the government safety nets for older and lower income populations. [Medicaid income eligibility qualifications in a 0 to 30-50k range depending on dependents.] This should have been the original approach all along; to cover the uninsured by giving them access to medicaid and the entire mess could have been avoided. Alas, that wasn’t the intent of the takeover for all of the aforementioned reasons.

Under Trump’s long-term (3 step) approach – the non-government healthcare market, the majority of the population, will break free from almost all of the ObamaCare government regulations; and the insurance market will be empowered to provide an insurance product that fits the individual needs of the person purchasing the insurance.

♦Dual System Approaches – Much like Secretary Mnuchin is proposing leaving government (via Dodd-Frank) attached to the “too-big-to-fail” group of banks and cutting all else loose from the regulations, so too is Secretary Price proposing to leave government attached to the “at risk population” (Medicare and Medicaid), the group 99% of all political talking points are structured around, and cut everyone else loose from the regulations.

•Step #1 establishes the ability (decouples ObamaCare). •Step #2 allows HHS to frame the parallel system (deregulation). •Step #3 establishes the broader parameters for the non-government health insurance market.

The House passed their Step 1 version. The current Senate bill is their side of Step 1.

It’s challenging to see the sunlight at the end of this complex tunnel, but it’s there.

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93 Responses to HHS Secretary Dr Tom Price Interview with Dana Bash – Discussion Senate Healthcare Bill…

  1. treehouseron says:

    I’ve never understood the focus on the poor aspect of this, either.

    Let me tell a personal story. My mother struggled her whole life with finances, she was diagnosed with Cancer years ago.

    She got rushed to the emergency room, had a team of what I believe to be the absolute BEST doctors look after her, had test after test performed. Had emergency surgery. The doctors did an amazing job removing the cancer from her colon, and then she had a nurse sent to check up on her at home every day for months.

    She had a second surgery months later. She was offered, but refused, radiation therapy, but did have a cutting-edge Radioscopy (I hope I’m getting that right) brain tumour treatment that reduced the size of the tumour in her brain.

    She was given all kinds of help, by some of the nicest professional doctors and nurses you can imagine. I’m talking physical therapists, nurses, dietitians, you name it. Lots of prescription medication, even rides to the doctors office.

    Her cost for all of this? MY cost for all of this? (I was young at the time)….. ZERO

    All paid for by the government, absolutely 0 cost to her because she was fairly poor when she had her emergency (perforated colon). Treatment, for years at 0 cost, and it was the absolute best treatment possible. She had no insurance, and wasn’t signed up to medicaid or medicare when she found out she was sick.

    To these libs I say Don’t tell me about uninsured people. There are no uninsured people.

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    • snaggletooths says:

      I remember way before obamacare ALL hospital’s having financial plans for people who could not afford medical treatment you were seen then it was up to you to go their financial office seeing what plan they could come up with to help you out, some hospitals had grants for the year plus payment programs.
      In Las Vegas they had UMC hospital who took in all the poor giving them expert treatment and help them with paperwork to get them on SS or payment plans.
      People today not all of course want FREE they don’t want to pay a bill.

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      • treehouseron says:

        Absolutely. It’s just a non-existent problem they keep harping on, if people don’t have money there is already a MASSIVE, CAPABLE safety net to help them. Nobody is dying because they don’t have health insurance…

        Now, the other end of it is, like Sundance is saying, people who actually have insurance are having their lives and finances destroyed because of these policies, that are coached as supposedly helping the poor.

        I’ts just a big con job, the poor don’t need anymore help on health insurance, Medicaid and Medicare already take care of it.

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        • nuthinmuffin says:

          it’s all about demonizing your opponent to promote a fantasy construct…from healthcare to gun control to abortion, it’s all the same technique.

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      • El Torito says:

        One think that I think is different is the amount of unemployed people. The taxpayer always took care of the unemployed, but there were far fewer of them, until Obama. Then the fewer employed had to foot the bill for the much greater amount of unemployed, and it almost worked. The left just happened to collapse the middle class just a little to soon before the general election. Had H been elected, we would not be having this conversation. We would ALL be poor and unemployed, right where the prog loonies want us, more than happy to do whatever they ask for our healthcare. Then would have come surrendering our guns to get healthcare. It almost happened.

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        • nuthinmuffin says:

          obama removed the work requirement from welfare…when you think about his “those jobs are never coming back” comment, it sheds a whole new light on it’s intent. he parks millions of free lunch takers on a government program and doesn’t have to work “hard” on improving the job market. obama is a fabian socialist that only believes in capitalism when it comes to him and his circle of “friends”…and the commoners get to suffer and pay the bill

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    • US says:

      In California all poor had access to free treatment at County hospitals.
      Mexican people I know came over the border to San Diego, checked in at the ER, had their coronary bypass worth a million dollars, then gratefully returned to Mexico.

      There always was medical care for the poor in the USA. Obamacare was a huge lie. Now we are returning to Medicaid for paupers which always existed. Jerry Brown and his Merry Marxists took the Obamacare opportunity to give free MediCal to all Illegal Aliens so that will be something California will have to be stuck with. Maybe build the Wall?

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      • treehouseron says:

        The system (for the poor) we had was fine, we just needed to dry up all the damn fraud, and deport the illegals. The actual deprived American Citizens had plenty of ‘free’ health care already.

        The system for us insurance buyers just keeps getting worse and worse and Ocare made it twice as worse immediately.

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    • Mike says:

      We have to do something about the fraudulent pricing and regulatory costs. Healthcare can be cheap if you can buy competitive supplies and services (operations, personnel $/hr). We have eliminated truly competitive pricing in medicine many ways, partly by corrupt regulators like FDA and medical boards.

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    • jmuniz1 says:

      It’s about control. The GOPe invented Obamacare remember Romney care. If you go to News With Views/ Kelligh Nelson/Obamacare she will prove that part of controlling the people was to grab there Healthcare. It was first suggested by the Heritage Foundation. They elite view we the people as our enemy. Think about this ” last year almost every Republican voted for the TPP. Ted Cruz’ did not vote for it. However,his wife help right it. Just like Gott and NAFTA you can see her resume on News With Views. Now who are the ones fighting our President. The same people that help put all this in place. I personally know Ted Cruz and unfortunately Marco Rubio. I did not vote for either of them. This election was supposed to be Hillary Clintons election and the beginning of the NAU aka TPP aka Fundamentally transformation of our county. However, the people got smart and elected a businessman an outsider to drain the swamp. So we must Trust our President and be aware that the donors in both parties hate President Trump. So why are they going to let him completely repeal Obamacare. They are not. Why haven’t they killed the filibuster because they don’t want to. Not because they are dumb it’s because they feel that socialism is the way to go and they can continue to live there cushy lifestyle while we the people suffer. The Russian conspiracy is just to delay our Presidents agenda. You all must get involved in your local city and county elections and try to run for a local commission race. Think about this is Trump who is an elite had not run we would be done. They already are trying to start another Neo Con Party with the Classical liberals and the Constructional conservatives. They just made former Heritage Foundation and true Neoconservative Jim Demint head of it. This site has mistakenly called Demint a man hated by Washington DC. However, that is not true. He is establishment all the way. He endorsed Globalist Canadian Ted Cruz but because of sites like Drudge and people like Rush Limbaugh even Sean Hannity gave the elites the finger and endorsed Trump. So we the people need to blast the lines of our house speaker and Senate majority leader and tell them especially the Senate Majority leader to end the filibuster ASAP. If we can do that our President can accomplish huge things. So all this mumbo jumbo about healthcare is B.S. It has to be taken apart piece by piece and as time goes buy our President can wead out the never Trump Republicans in his administration. Rush Limbaugh said a few weeks ago that sometimes other elements control these politicians and delay is the way they stop our Presidents agenda. The longer he can be delayed the longer they believe that his agenda will not go through. However with all that being said do not think for one minute that both parties wanted the Democrats to win the last 6 elections that new Republicans won especially the election in Georgia. The lady Handel had the least money of all the canidates she ran against in the Primary. The GOP e like the open borders Senate conservative fund club got growth canidates lost. Then the Democrats sank deep money into a far left candidate who everyone said was a shoe in to win. However, he lost because the people have awoken. They are looking at the donors of the canidates before they vote. The Koch’s are not killers like Gorge Soros and the own our Vice President but they are for open borders and the TPP. The healthcare thing is not important to them.So we must do our best at the local and State levels and let our President work. If not in 4 years who knows what will happen. It’s going to take him 6 years to fix this country and I believe he will be re-elected and we need to work again but we must work to remove those Senators and Congressmen in our party that are not helping him.

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      • YvonneMarie says:

        The bad ones will be voted out for the next twenty years.
        That is my prediction.
        Watch !

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      • dbobway says:

        So many impatient people don’t like to read the truth you write jmuniz1.
        We don’t have a Congress, of the people right now. They are the Congress of the, fill my pockets, elite.

        We need to pass what we can for the middle class. The bill the Congress is choking on, will do wonders for working Americans and their Employers. Immediately, millions will see the results instead of hear about them. Then we can lower taxes as much as the do nothing Congress will allow and more direct affect of more money on workers paycheck will occur again.

        This creates a platform that Americans can feel. The 2018 election will be a bloodbath for the Communist left and most the carpetbaggers will finally get voted out.

        Everybody under 40 has never seen what this country can do. This will be last chance in my lifetime to save our Republic.President Trump is doing exactly what he promised. Let him finish.It will take time to unravel 60 years of indoctrination inflicted by people who despise free will, virtue, human charity and peace.

        Communism must be a global government to complete it’s quest of control. We must be the deterrent, the greener grass outside of oppression.

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    • DGinGA says:

      Your story illustrates why I hate the way the left demagogues this issue by pretending that people who do not have health INSURANCE do not have access to medical care. From the start, and up to today, they refer to this mess as “health care” and “improving access to health care.” I know lot of people who do not have health INSURANCE, and even under Obanacare still cannot begin to afford health INSURANCE. But if they get sick, they can go to the doctor. If they need the ER they can go to the ER. Nobody is turning them away from medical SERVICES because they don’t have insurance.

      The left has done a very effective job of brainwashing Americans into thinking that every single one of us should be able to get any and all medical services we desire at absolutely NO cost to us. I listen to my (affluent) neighbors complain that their prescription drug insurance won’t cover the latest designer drug they see on TV so they are charged $500 per month out of pocket. I know that’s a lot of money, but is there another drug the doc can prescribe that the insurance WILL cover? Sure, but they want the one on TV, and they don’t want to pay for it.

      One neighbor complained recently because her health insurance company would not pay for her to go to Johns Hopkins to have surgery performed by some renowned surgeon in the field. Instead they told her they WOULD pay for her to have the surgery here in Atlanta perforned by an excellent surgeon at Emory University Hospital. She insisted that she read an article online about the guy at Johns Hopkins and wanted him to do her surgery. I told her she could go right ahead and set it up at Johns Hopkins, the difference being that SHE would have to pay for it. She kept characterizing the problem as her insurance company refusing to pay for her surgery. They said they’d pay; within some reasonable limits.

      I don’t know where people get off trying to portray this country as not having world class medical services. We have the best of pretty much everything in this country. But when you want the very best, you have to be willing to pay for it.

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    • TPW says:

      That time has come and gone now even people on Medicare are having to pick up a % of the bills even after co insurance pays……..any increases in SS are eaten up by larger increases in supplemental insurance……..They are screwing with SS and Medicare without ever bringing it up for a vote so the People would not be aware. This pretense by the republicans (repeal and replace) is unforgivable. I said this months ago …that republicans were in on ocare just wanted the dems to take all the blame. They are acting as though the fix is just too difficult or they will put forward such a terrible fix no one will want it. Watch as they all talk about fixing those terrible deductibles and co pays but very few mention the outrageous premiums. The premiums were and are the biggest wealth grab the middle class has ever seen. Insurance Industry is not loosing money ……..they have divided the market into 2 categories ,,,,Individual and Group…….Why is it they never talk about covering those with preexisting conditions in the group market but remain profitable? Those without Employer coverage umbrella and were denied insurance because of preexisting conditions were put in the individual market under ACA and made that market non profitable while being very profitable in the group market…….so what I am getting at is why not let Individual market form groups so as to negotiate price and let the govt. cover those who are high cost in medicaid. To further drive down cost have choice in plans, cross state lines, get rid of FDA restrictions, limit lawsuits, and a million other things that could be done. WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO HAVE EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE……..

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  2. SoCal Patriot says:

    That is a great analysis Sundance…very insightful. Thank you.

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    • carrie2 says:

      No one says that the super rich like Buffet search for every way they can to NOT pay a lot of taxes and so do some of the Silicon Rich who only take a paycheck of $1 and live on charging the company for their lifestyles. My spouse is an Enrolled Agent or in other words a tax expert and there is nothing wrong with taking deductions but avoiding even get a salary from which to take taxes is absurd. We do need to update the tax system and personally a flat system would be best. I remember when I was younger we used only ONE postcard to send in our taxes, and now when my spouse does tax returns even for the not very wealthy, there are pages and pages and pages and they want all this sent electronically! So if Buffet doesn’t want that tax deduction, he can send it along to foreign countries which he already does instead of working to improve our workers. Thank God Trump is now working to get an apprentice training programs to teach electronics to update many out of work people, and also provide us with vocational people as well. The whole system needs a check up from the neck up and you can be sure the super rich will always complain while searching for loopholes in not paying taxed so this phone remark from Buffet is pure hogwash! Since when do you consider anyone making $250K rich? Not in the overpriced economy most of have to live in for sure with housing costs rising, food costs, car costs, dental costs, surgery costs, etc. Get real. We need to get government out of our lives and pockets. We are a Republic and that means we each take responsibility for our positions, income, education, etc. I came from a large poor (real poverty? get real and see that they are buying food, large TVs, cars, etc., and get the illegals off of medicaid and welfare will make a huge different because they are NOT citizens and have no rights and hence should not be supported by we who have to pay taxes), but our parents said get educated and so one brother learned skills in the Navy, and others went to vocational schools and wound up as business mean, and I did the same. There is compassion and then there is stupidity. We need to be responsible for our decisions, PERIOD!

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  3. fleporeblog says:

    That is the fallacy for the left and Uniparty! The folks they are concerned about don’t vote and will reap the job explosion of our President. The voters are the forgotten men and women that vote and aren’t discussed by these morons. Our President knows who he is going to take care of when Phases 1 through 3 are done.

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  4. This should be required reading for all the GOP Senators. We gotta see this through and move on to tax reform STAT!

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  5. woohoowee says:

    A point about the Medicaid expansion that you won’t hear the opposition bring up and it’s obvious why….. :

    -snip-

    After Arkansas expanded Medicaid to 300,000 able bodied adults, their waiting list for disabled patient services grew 25 percent. Seventy-nine children and adults died waiting for care.

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/04/20/obamacare-may-increase-doctor-visits-isnt-making-anyone-healthier/

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    • ALEX says:

      Medicaid is bare bones factory insurance. Very few doctors will do it and the results compared to private insurance are horrendous with things like breast cancer..

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      • woohoowee says:

        But there’s a twist with what Arkansas did (that voters told TPTB *not* to do): Take expanded Medicaid dollars and purchase insurance thru the exchange for Medicaid recipients. Does that help clarify what happened?

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      • carrie2 says:

        Alex, you are right as many doctors CANNOT afford to give health care to many and won’t take Medicaid, and rightly so as their expenses in today’s world are very high – computers, printers, nurses, assistants, meds, etc. We need to use our brains and see what a reality is, whereas those democrats/liberals/leftists are only interested in vote and don’t give a damn about your health, which is why we must remove all benefits/perks from Congress members because we the voters did not authorize them and why should they treat themselves better than we citizens and then complain about a health care plan that will help everyone when they don’t have to worry about theirs.

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      • Physicians & hospitals used to do charity care of up to 30% of their patient load and that charity care was clinic based by the hospitals and office/hospital based by physicians. Other than the wait time that day to get seen and the rotating staff coverage it was equivalent in all ways to private insurance care.

        When the Government got involved the cost of doing business for both hospitals & physicians offices skyrocketed. The cost of compliance with paperwork, HIPA, burdensome regulations requiring compliance officers changed the entire landscape. Doctors now spend more time documenting than in face time with patients.

        When the regulations are dialed back, competition instituted, care decisions returned to the patient/doctor rather than the insurance clerk and tort reform is passed healthcare costs will fall sharply. The decreased burden on physicians & hospitals will free up time for charity care.

        Perhaps instead of forcing providers to chase the minuscule reimbursements for medicaid there could be a credit system that would provide something of value to the hospital or medical office, reduced inspection & license fees or medical continuing education seminars instead of fee for service.

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        • TPW says:

          “healthcare cost will fall sharply” When have you ever seen the cost of ANYTHING fall. Government caused the price hikes and unfortunately it will take government to force them to cut the price hikes. This may be the one time I would have to agree to Government intervention. Any cost saving measures applied by removal of rules and restrictions will be scooped up by the good doctors wallet or applied to the bottom line of P/L statement for Hospitals, drug companies, and Insurance companies….guaranteed.

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          • I don’t agree with your analysis. Free market capitalism is what makes prices fall and less Gv’t involvement not more is what’s needed. Force doctors to charge less and deal with the current environment, they will just retire or stop taking insurance at all. Its happening already. Hospitals are going bankrupt and the insurers are leaving the marketplace. Are you for real or farina? Except in a totalitarian state Gv’t doesn’t control prices or force people to work or provide services.

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    • woohoowee says:

      Obamacare Takes Care From Disabled People To Subsidize Able-Bodied, Working-Age Men

      Obamacare’s dirty little secret: the hundreds of thousands of people with disabilities, who are on wait lists because they can’t get services.

      http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/18/obamacare-takes-care-disabled-people-subsidize-able-bodied-working-age-men/

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    • Sayit2016 says:

      “Seventy-nine children and adults died waiting for care.” sigh….Liberals do not even care about these people….as they NEVER talk about them…. what if these people were THEIR families…..

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  6. R-C says:

    Leftist idiot ‘republicans’ like my former senator, Idiot Heller, and his partner in crime, Idiot Sandoval, don’t surprise me in the least. I used to live under their yoke. It’s NO WONDERThey’re both ‘bought and paid for’. (I wonder if they can define the term, ‘republic’. I doubt it. They’re LIBERALS.)

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    • ALEX says:

      What bothers me is did they run on the Medicaid vote or the taxpayer vote..It’s disingenuous and they need to be primaries etc .

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    • NvMtnOldman says:

      I still live in Nv and you are right. They are both clones of their friend dingy harry.

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    • fleporeblog says:

      R-C this POS Heller and I am sorry for referring one of our own like that is going to have his head chopped off! He messed with the wrong MAN!

      Folks our Lion isn’t playing around with these morons that call themselves Republicans. This moron from Nevada, Dan Heller, said earlier today not only is he voting NO but he doubts there is anything that will get him to yes. He is up for reelection in 2018 in a state our President lost. The issue with this POS’s stance is that he falls on the opposite end of the spectrum when compared to the 4 Amigos. Our President has to work with those 4 knowing he will never get Rand Paul to yes.

      He is showing the rest of the moderates (the two women from Maine and Alaska) that they will pay with their careers if the come out opposing this bill. I absolutely LOVE it!

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/key-gop-senator-health-care-law-bill-not-answer-191746000.html

      From the article linked above:

      WASHINGTON — In a potentially significant blow to the Senate Republicans’ plan to repeal Obamacare, Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nev., announced at a Friday press conference that he’d vote against the bill in its current form.

      His statement came a day after Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., unveiled the proposal. Within hours, four conservative senators — Rand Paul, R-Ky.; Mike Lee, R-Utah; Ted Cruz, R-Texas; and Ron Johnson, R-Wis. — voiced their opposition to the measure, saying it didn’t go far enough in actually repealing Obamacare.

      Heller is in a different position, saying the legislation is too drastic. He said Friday that he believed the bill’s changes to the Medicaid program would dramatically affect the residents of his state.

      “This bill is not the answer, and in its current form I will not support it,” Heller said, adding that it “will mean a loss of coverage for millions of Americans and many Nevadans.”

      He added that “it would be very difficult” to get him to support the bill.

      http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/23/pro-trump-group-to-target-gop-sen-heller-over-health-care-bill-239911

      From the article linked above:

      A pro-Trump outside group is launching an advertising blitz against Republican Sen. Dean Heller over his opposition to the health care repeal bill — a bold act of political retaliation against a member of the president’s own party.

      Heller, a Nevada Republican, is up for re-election in 2018 and is seen as one of the most vulnerable incumbents up for reelection this cycle.

      The barrage, which will be orchestrated by America First Policies, a group run by many of President Donald Trump’s top campaign advisers, is backed by more than a million dollars, according to multiple sources familiar with the planning. Digital ads are set to begin running on Friday, and television and radio spots are set to launch early next week.

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      • Sayit2016 says:

        What is the heck is “too drastic”. Has he even read the dang thing ? He claims ““will mean a loss of coverage for millions of Americans and many Nevadans.” as opposed to what the MILLIONS that lost coverage under Obamacare? These stupid stupid STUPID people….woodshed for this guy…..

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      • R-C says:

        In the same way that an apple is not a grapefruit, there is nothing remotely ‘republican’ about Dean Heller. No matter how he ‘self-identifies’.

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    • Sayit2016 says:

      I mean think about it if you’re responsible for the death of 79 people isn’t it kind of like mass murder?

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  7. ALEX says:

    I found myself essentially explaining this article to someone today. They were the classic repeal it and move on. Of course just like Free Trade crowd they always speak in platitudes and sound bites…

    Medicaid and Medicare are going to crash. Democrats have no intention of doing anything but offering more until then. The two track with real definitive changes that allow us taxpayers relief until that crash is the best route…

    I still want some acknowledgement from Insurance companies and the President/Congress in some form how taxpayers benefit and costs go down..We deserve that…I don’t care about the Medicaid scare stories…

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    • carrie2 says:

      Alex, email our President with your complaints, suggestions, etc. at whitehouse.gov/contact#page or at potus45@wh.com because for the first time we can actually communicate with our President. He is open and always seeking to pave a way for each of us that will be of benefit. I generally email him at least once a week and surprisingly he is already working on some of it. He wanted ACA completely repealed and only a couple of replacements for Vets and preconditions. But we have allowed ourselves to continue to vote establishment creeps time after time or those with way too many terms (and way over aged as well) and Ryan has never liked Trump and he and his creeps are trying to do as little as possible to do as Trump would like to seen done. This is second time around on the bill and hopefully the third would be the charm. As to taxes, they are not reductions but rate changes which is a whole different things and will allow us to not be stuck with how much we need to pay this years taxes. The tax rates actually allow more investment by companies, hire more people, and help small businesses to come back and actually flourish. I hope and have told him, but I already knows, that conglomeration has to stop because they swallow up so many business and then sock it to us in every way, so they need to be dismantled and hopefully we see that coming soon as well.

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    • QuestGirl says:

      There is a tax for MediCare, like FICA tax is Social Security. MedicAid is funded by the General Tax.

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  8. Sandra-VA says:

    ObamaCare also destroyed employer provided plans! Increased premiums, huge increases in deductibles and out of pocket to the point that we can’t actually afford to USE the health insurance. I mean, who has $12k lying around to be used for a needed surgery BEFORE insurance starts paying anything out at all. All because of mandated coverage for things that people don’t need.

    Paying thousands more per year for premiums for unusable health care.

    Personally, I think a model based on the church based (and some companies like Wynn) programs that have been saving the day for many would work much better. If every person paid in $2k or so per year, to a community centered health care system with NO INSURANCE companies dictating what has to be provided by whom (like a simple blood test that used to be done in Dr’s office now means you have to go to third party and sit in a waiting room for hours on end breathing in who knows what germs…) then quality of care would go up, prices would be drastically reduced.

    The big hindrance to health care began with HMO’s. They didn’t reduce costs, they increased profits for the companies, reduced quality of care and forced Dr’s to have to hire 10x the clerical staff just to do billing and patient records along with all the red tape. Thus, costs for health care went through the roof.

    Patient centered health care means cut out the middle men.

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    • woohoowee says:

      Our premiums didn’t go up, but the deductibles and out-of-pocket certainly did. It didn’t take long for everyone on our plan to figure out the insurance company is wanting us to spend 10,000 per year out of our pockets plus our share of the premiums. Most of us don’t have that kind of money to spend annually.

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      • Sayit2016 says:

        For years my deductibles were 250-500.00 per year…I never once even met THOSE deductibles. I am thankful for good health today-but deductibles at 6-12 K that is akin to no insurance. I chose to be self insured during the ” dark years” AKA the Obama Admin

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      • Well, woohoo, you don’t have to spent the $10K unless you get sick, do you? So, absent health savings accounts, just get yourself a savings account with whatever your out of pocket is, plus an estimate for co-pays, and you’re home free.

        It’s less than 4.2 years if you save $200 per month. Then you’ll be earning interest on the account, too. If you have to spend some of it, replenish ASAP. This isn’t hard.

        Can’t afford to do this? Quick, check your monthly spending habits. You’ll find the $$$ PDQ!

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        • woohoowee says:

          Well, unfortunately, he has medical expenses that end up being pretty costly. The good news is I can keep my expenses down by taking really good care of myself 🙂

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    • jrapdx says:

      “The big hindrance to health care began with HMO’s.”

      I’ve been saying the same thing for 20 years. It began back in the 1980’s when the first attempts to “reform” health care were first put in place. There were all sorts of variations, but the idea of “managed care” was the fundamental evil.

      It wasn’t “care” that was intended to manage, but reducing how much insurers would have to pay out in claims was the real goal. The methods of restricting what services would be paid for became ubiquitous and if anything have only hardened in recent years. So now we have the horrors of “prior authorizations” for even routine procedures. “Tiered” formularies for medications arbitrarily raise costs for patients for no good reasons.

      This is almost a total waste of time, effort, and money. Not to mention the enormous costs imposed on the care provider re: admin staffing to respond to insurers’ roadblocks. In truth, 95% of the time the requests for prior auth are going to be granted anyway. Insurers don’t reveal it, but having worked in that industry in the past I’ll guarantee the costs of micromanaging physicians’ care of patients far exceeds the amount of money saved.

      Really reforming health care will be getting insurers out of the practice of medicine. They have no business being there.

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      • jrapdx says:

        Arghh! Sorry for the endless italics. Mistake in formatting. Need EDIT function badly…

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      • Sandra-VA says:

        Yes! Authorizations are evil… when I was diagnosed with Breast Cancer, I was forced to go and see a “primary care physician” that I had never even seen before… because my OB-GYN Dr was the one that diagnosed me. I had to go through more poking and prodding that I had already undergone (never mind the high stress I was already under due to the diagnosis itself). THEN, the insurance company forced me to get daily authorizations for every single treatment – surgery, chemo, radiation, the different Dr’s I had to see, MRI’s, X-Rays – everything. And of course, I had to go back to that PCP that didn’t know me for everyone of those Auths despite my Oncologist being the one who was directing my care….

        The added stress I had to go through fighting with the insurance company when some auth was forgotten was just pure evil. They didn’t care that I was fighting for my life… only if some unrelated Dr had approved and requested Authorization for that day’s treatment…

        My care could have been cheaper and less stressful if my Oncologist could have directed my care…

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        • Sayit2016 says:

          Awful… just awful Sandra…Stress on top of a compromised immune system is the one thing Doctors say to avoid ! The studies on the effect of stress on the body are frightening. I am so sorry you had to go through that. I pray that you are on the road to full recovery and free from that hideous disease. love and prayers to you !

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          • OTOH, Sandra, if you got really mad, and I suspect you did, that may have improved your immune system!

            First, while you were angry you weren’t obsessing over BC, and second, your immune system probably kicked into high gear to help you body deal with the stress!

            At least, that’s how it was with me, though, since DH and I had no insurance, our battles were elsewhere, though the reactions were the same!

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    • carrie2 says:

      Sandra, agree with you and why I suggest that Christians get in touch with medi-care where everyone contributes and cover the sometimes huge costs of other members. Also some doctors are getting together and opening their own clinics and charge a monthly fee (depending on income) and a member gets to see whichever doctor is needed for their condition. Way too many BIG hospital corporations are making sure some hospitals have to close down, or when they take them over, service is piecemeal and expensive for the stockholders to get more than they deserve. This has been going on for over 100 with democrat presidents and we need to intervene and reset the programs pronto. As I said above, take time to email our President because he does want to hear from us as he works for us – what a concept!

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  9. MIKE says:

    Thanks to the great posts here I am able to explain why a complete break away or 100% repeal of the dreaded kenyancare is impossible to pull off.
    Without this education I would still be screaming about govt interference in our healthcare a la the grape 🍇 one spark levin .
    Thanks for showing me the bigger picture here, I’m trying to learn more with your prescribed methods. Definitely not the same ole’ same ole’

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  10. The bill must eliminate “essential benefits” that all policies must provide and quite bluntly allow the use of lifetime caps if insurance costs are ever to go down for the average guy. Let me buy what I want already, not what the government mandates for me! My carrier has already applied for a 31% increase for next year – that will bring me to over $2,000 per month for platinum coverage for a couple. I was much happier when I had catastrophic coverage for less than $400 per month for a family. If you want me to subsidize others do it through the tax code, not insurance.

    The other solution is to permit the sale of “unapproved” policies, since we no longer have a mandate. The policy might not be tax deductible, but could provide the benefits desired at a significantly lower cost.

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    • jrapdx says:

      Your point has merit, but there are trade-offs. A policy with limits on conditions it pays for will be cheaper. The problem is that people can’t predict what kind of illnesses they will develop during the term of the insurance. If a condition arises that isn’t covered then it will go untreated or exposes risk of overwhelming financial burdens resulting in bankruptcy.

      This was happening in the past creating a large burden on individuals, families, etc. Medical bankruptcy is a disaster in many cases, causing huge stress, interfering with recovery from illness, reducing employability, etc. The effects on the economy of illness, particularly untreated illness are profound, to the tune of more than a trillion dollars a year.

      In any case, whether paid for in higher premiums or taxes it will be paid one way or the other. Seems to me that as long as it’s made clear what we pay and what it goes for, the mechanism of payment is secondary.

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      • Sandra-VA says:

        Why does a man or post menopausal woman need pre-natal care coverage, or pregnancy related coverage?

        Just as an example of the ridiculous mandated essential coverage that ALL policies must provide.

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          Oh, and those are WITHOUT charge to the recipient of said care.

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        • jrapdx says:

          Absolutely, those mandates are ridiculous for the populations mentioned and obviously sensible to eliminate coverages that couldn’t possibly apply.

          What I was referencing were policies with severe restrictions on services that no one was immune to needing. For example, in the past I’ve seen policies that would only pay for 7 days in an ICU, or wouldn’t pay for any mental health treatment at all. Some policies were and still are ridiculously restrictive in paying for medications down to individual drugs that would be paid for or not. Who is a good enough fortune teller to predict which antibiotic would be needed to fight an infection acquired at some future time?

          The issue is having some standards as to what realistically needs to be covered. Spend a few days hanging around a busy clinic and find out about all the surprising problems that arise. Reasonably a person with lower odds of surprises should pay a lower premium.

          Treatment is expensive but is only a fraction of the total cost of illness to the nation. We all pay indirectly for the burden of illness on the national economy. While addressing all aspects of the costs of illness are important, focusing only on the immediate costs of healthcare and insurance misses the “big picture”. Whether we pay more in insurance, taxes or the costs of goods and services, we’re still going to have to pay.

          The cheapest plan is doing as much as practical to reduce the prevalence and severity of illness among Americans.

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          • I don’t think we should be deciding what is best for other people. People chose what risks they want to run in many other facets of their lives. If people decide for whatever reason that they want a high deductible HSA, a bare bones policy, a capped policy that is their right. Some people may run into trouble but that is the nature of life. Many more people will save $ because they were able to chose the plan that suited their pocketbooks, family history and time of life best.

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            • Plus, some people might be encouraged to pay for their own medical care. You know, out of pocket? Have you seen the HUGE buildings put up by insurance companies? HUGE hospitals put up by public hospitals?

              What makes anyone think they will hit the insurance lottery by getting really, really sick and not having to pay for it? (few)

              And how many insurance buyers will NOT hit that lottery? (lots) This is how insurance works. The extra money goes into those big buildings and huge, well-paid paper pushers.

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    • bolshevict says:

      Thank you. The two biggest no-brainer savings in health care are what you are talking about and tort reform. Fixing those tow takes massive costs out of the system no matter what the system is…..
      Your premiums are so high because, among other things, the state back-cracker association paid off a few state senators to force every plan to have coverage for stuff like multiple trips to back-crackers, maybe some dietary stuff, all sorts of stuff on the Christmas tree of “Chiropractic care”…..and then there’s the “counseling” industry, psychologists and psychiatrists…..lots of stuff from areas where people who LOVE going to the “doctor” can force all sorts of spending on a whim…
      I hate it that the “mandated coverages” scam –which is really racketeering when you think about it–gets wrapped up in the boring, pedantic-sounding “let insurance companies sell across state lines” category, when competition is a very small part of the actual potential cost savings.
      Everyone should be able to buy a policy that doesn’t cover chiropractic, counselling, dietary, pregnancy, etc etc….
      What would happen is that if people who WANTED to have backrubs covered had to buy a policy that covered it and those who don’t want backrubs don’t have to subsidize it? The coverages for patient-initiated treatments like chiropractic and counselling would be priced right out of the market.
      Let me buy a catastrophic care policy, $10,000 per year deductible, 100% thereafter….

      This is WAY too long, I’m sorry, but last point…Historically, about 1/2 of medical expenses, globally, are the transactional, under $10k drugs, stitches, flu shot etc…the other half is from the big catastrophic claims. Eliminate the insurance for the transactional crap, use it for big claims only, the average person is going to save over one year’s deductible every two years. Insuring small claims is massively wasteful, both for individuals and to the system.

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  11. R-C says:

    More on the Clownish Nothingburger Network’s interview:

    And what of Warren Buffett? Oh, so unctuous…oh, so concerned about the plight of the poor that he would lambaste wealthy members of congress for ‘voting themselves a tax cut’. HOG WASH.

    Warren Buffett is a corporate rapist. He swoops in and purchases an electric company. He halves the quality of service and doubles the rates. Customers are forced to either pay through the nose, or curtail their usage in order to make ends meet. (And it’s not easy to do that in a place like Nevada, where those two Uni-Party turkeys hold sway. Temperatures there are +100 degrees for most of the year–simply turning off the AC isn’t really a great option. And the state of Nevada? Oh, they then clamp down on the alternative: solar. They’re all in bed together.)

    And does the oh-so-unctuous Warren Buffett care about the plight of his customers? Nope. Pay up, or shut up. He cares about his bottom line. What a HYPOCRITE.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      Maybe we can impose a Billionaire’s tax. Every person who has over $2bill in assets must immediately donate 50% to the Government for social programs like medicaid. That would solve the problem ASAP 😀

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    • woohoowee says:

      Since Buffett and Bash both are so concerned (lol) about poor people’s health insurance maybe someone will ask them: “Your concern for the poor is touching, how many families have you purchased health insurance for?”

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  12. snaggletooths says:

    “Notice how the various “concerns”, amid all of the politically charged discussion, are always centered around medicaid – or the state run, taxpayer-funded, low income, healthcare coverage.”
    I noticed right off the bat our local online news sites running articles all from this angle all about the poor and medicaid.

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  13. sundance says:

    White House messaging [“KISS”] “Obamacare has led to higher costs and fewer health insurance options for millions of Americans. President Donald J. Trump promised to repeal and replace this disaster, and that is exactly what he is working with Congress to achieve.”…

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  14. snaggletooths says:

    All these folks for medicaid expansion as if Medicaid is something glorious its not its a great safety net for the very poor & disabled and that is all it should cover. Instead its trying to cover many groups including illegals & refugee’s so many also do not realize doctors & who can blame them don’t want to except all these medicaid folks some take a % but like we all know their reimbursement is so low they don’t want a whole practice of medicaid patients.

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  15. julegate says:

    My question regards the Banking System and the “parallel system”. Would the To Big To Fail Investment Banks still have checking/savings accounts? If so given their risky if not down right illegal behavior why would anyone keep their money in that Bank? If one of the 10 Banks fails does not the bail-in from depositors take affect? Helen Chaitman, who wrote JPMadoff discovered 50% of Americans have their checking/savings accounts with Chase Bank. How will a Bank failure affect the system? How will that affect the rest of us even with a firewall?

    https://chaitmanllp.squarespace.com/jpmadoff/

    I read from someone that President Trump’s idea was to let the To Big To Fail Banks destroy themselves.

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    • youme says:

      If those too big to fail banks actually fail, they will take everyone down with them including foreign banks. Almost happened when Lehman Bros. and Bear Stearns went under. Even the failure of the hedge fund “Long Term Capital Management” kicked the legs out from under the entire banking system and if it weren’t for the federal reserve putting a gun to the head of the major banks and making them fund the LTCM bailout, we would be living back in the stone age. Absolutely no one knows where the systematic risk is right now. Out of the 14,000 economists in the US, only a handful were raising the alarm just before the 2007/2008 financial crisis.

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      • julegate says:

        Which is my point. What is the point of a “parallel system” of Banks? The risk to us all is still there and is not being addressed. I personally think President Trump knows this.

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        • Eileen says:

          Not all banks are members of the Federal Reserve System. The nature of the 2008 meltdown was a credit freeze. If the President frees smaller banks from burdensome regulations, they would be free to lend, thus making money available for small businesses, which I expect would be a major jobs driver as they usually are. Also what prevented the big banks from failing is the infusion of TARP funds from the U.S taxpayers. If Trump allows the big banks to fail and makes credit available to small banks, they can provide the liquidity needed to keep the economy going. I don’t see how allowing big banks to fail is any different from Google failing or closer to the financial market – a company like Prudential failing. Hedge funds fail all the time, yet we don’t see the whole system locking up.

          When big banks control all the money, you will have financial disaster. What would happen when they don’t? Well just depositors of the big banks lose and those who had the big banks execute trades for them. What would be bad is that the big banks are market makers so there would be nobody taking the other side of trades; given how the financial system works, this may just have to be collateral damage. Or maybe the Federal Reserve can do that since they already day trade. Retail participation in the stock market is at a historic low, so this may just affect the big money.

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  16. Howie says:

    There oughta be a free no fills health care for poor people and leave everyone else alone. No, not a Caddy. No, not abortions birth control and a Luxury Hotel Room.

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  17. Brian L says:

    Why does it seem like Ann Coulter is doing her damnedest to undermine Trump’s presidency?

    Starting to make me think she’s just like Levin et al, gonna be out of business complaining about politicians if things actually start being fixed.

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  18. Troublemaker10 says:

    Tom Price dies an excellent job on messaging in this interview.

    I was also reminded by Mike Needham, Heritage Foundation, this morning when he participated in a panel discussion about the problems with our current Medicaid program.

    Remember this?

    Oregon Study: Medicaid ‘Had No Significant Effect’ On Health Outcomes vs. Being Uninsured

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/05/02/oregon-study-medicaid-had-no-significant-effect-on-health-outcomes-vs-being-uninsured/amp/#ampshare=https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/05/02/oregon-study-medicaid-had-no-significant-effect-on-health-outcomes-vs-being-uninsured/

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  19. QuestGirl says:

    ObamaCare gutted our entire healthcare system.

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    • treehouseron says:

      They’re trying to ‘insure’ everyone has equally miserable, equally expensive health ‘care’. At least before, even with prices spiraling out of control, it was at least POSSIBLE to get decent health care.

      We’ve got to get the prices down not just on the insurance but on the actual treatment.

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    • treehouseron says:

      BTW that comment was meant to say the Democrats and Obamacare, not the current American Health Care Act which I support along with our President!

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  22. fleporeblog says:

    This is the last and final piece of Barry’s legacy that is about to go by the waste side. All the bastard will have left is the Iran deal that our President is getting the Arab coalition to help destroy in the future. They can’t allow this monstrosity to fall. They are getting paid and paid well because there is nothing left to fight. This BS about a full repeal and phase 2 and 3 never happening is a LIE!

    The concept of a pure repeal bill doesn’t exist! It never has existed! SD has told us numerous times that the bill that Barry from Hawaii vetoed in 2015 was NOT a repeal bill. Beyond the fact that we have only 52 Republican Senators, a full repeal would need 60 Senate votes. Here is the reality for folks that are pushing the full repeal flag: many Republican Senators would NEVER EVER vote for a full repeal. We would need 70 Republicans to have a chance at getting 60 to vote for a FULL REPEAL.

    The Republicans can only do so much through the process of reconciliation. This bill is a good bill. It helps states that expanded their medicaid because of Obozocare ample time to deal with the ramifications of no longer receiving government funding. That won’t occur until 2024. This bill doesn’t penalize folks that decide I am not buying health insurance. The House bill would have them pay a 30% surcharge if they went without insurance for 63 days. This bill has no such penalty.

    This bill also takes freeloaders ability to milk the damn system away! It allows states to impose a work requirement on non-pregnant, non-disabled, non-elderly individuals receiving Medicaid. Look what has happened in states that provide EPIC benefits. When you can’t freeload, they run for the hills and find a DAMN job!

    http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06/13_alabama_counties_had_85_per.html

    From the article linked above:

    13 Alabama counties saw 85 percent drop in food stamp participation after work requirements restarted

    As of Jan. 1, 2017, there were 13,663 able-bodied adults without dependents receiving food stamps statewide. That number dropped to 7,483 by May 1, 2017. Among the 13 counties, there were 5,538 adults ages 18-50 without dependents receiving food stamps as of Jan. 1, 2017. That number dropped to 831 – a decline of about 85 percent – by May 1, 2017.

    For all those that say Phase 3 is a pipe dream, bills have already been passed in the House!

    http://www.thebenefitbureau.com/house-passes-bill-allow-tax-credits-used-pay-cobra-plans/

    From the article linked above:

    Phase 3 is actually four pieces of legislation:

    While the Senate was working on its own legislation to eliminate the Affordable Care Act, the House moved ahead with a second piece of legislation to further chip away at the landmark health care law.

    The aforementioned Broad Choices for Americans Act.

    The Verify First Act, which would bar illegal immigrants from receiving tax credits under the ACA or the AHCA.

    The Veterans Equal Treatment Ensures Relief and Access Now (VETERAN) Act, which would allow veterans the choice to stay in the Veterans Affairs programs or instead get financial support for a private health care plan.

    The Protecting Access to Care Act, which would cap malpractice payouts at $250,000 for damages that don’t have a direct economic impact, like lost wages or medical expenses.

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  23. spaulj67 says:

    So what happens if we don’t get the votes and Obama care collapses? All that would remain is the private market. I think the President could decide not to collect the tax in any state without an Obama care option as well. What if the President enfored the Sherman act as well. For some reason this law is not enforced on healthcare? Why not? Name any other industry not required to publish prices before service? The solution is less not more government.

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  24. Apfelcobbler says:

    The Dems have successfully fudged up the distinction between medical “health insurance” and “healthcare” in the public’s mind. It’s no accident – they are masters of intentionally misusing language as an endrun to the Propaganda War.

    The New Deal/ Roosevelt idea that insurance should have any connection to employers is absurd, but we’re way past that now!

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  25. 6x47 says:

    The delicious irony of course is the mega corporations and institutions were willing to accept these regulatory burdens as a form of protection against competitors: The high cost of compliance is a burden they can bear but it crushes lesser firms.

    Now Trump et al are letting all the little fish go while the Leviathans are kept, all alone in that horrible mess they helped create.

    Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

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  26. I’ll probably catch heat for this but I thought the interview was pretty fair up until she said (paraphrasing) people like you will get a tax cut when this bill is passed, but in reality it benefits the 6.5 million Dr. Price cited the most.

    She is better than Tapper & Wallace. That isn’t much since they are both cut from the same cloth.

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  27. Hate to harbor on the past but this wouldn’t of happened if Justice Roberts was intellectually honest. Since Obamacare wasn’t overturned by the supreme court that allowed over 20 million onto the medicaid expansion. That is the biggest political dilemma. I hope Justice Roberts is remembered as a coward and a liar.

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    • 6x47 says:

      He is.

      My summary of Chief Justice Roberts’

      “The law is un-Constitutional, but if it weren’t then it would be Constitutional. Therefore I will rule not on the actual law but to uphold a fictitious law that does not exist, and in so doing I will tacitly (and explicitly) acknowledge that the arguments of the plaintiffs seeking to overturn the law are correct. I will also reject the arguments of the Obama Administration, and instead re-argue the case myself in order to uphold the law.”

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  28. 1wanderingtruthseeker says:

    Government has no business involved with our healthcare and medical care is not Constitutional right. Compassion for the poor is up to the individual. Not is for free. Somebody’s paying for it with working class citizens money.

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