Dems Make Strategic Healthcare Plan for 2018 – Sanders Will Lead on “Single-Provider” Proposal…

Well, don’t say we didn’t predict this reality.  The Democrats are smartly not waiting for any recovery efforts by Republicans; and immediately following the failure of President Trump’s healthcare repeal and replacement approach, Senator Bernie Sanders begins putting their ‘single provider’ alternative together.

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The strategy is, unfortunately, brilliant.  When Obamacare further collapses, and all Americans are being further crushed by the skyrocketing costs, at exactly the moment when the American electorate are at their most frustrated and everyone is in crisis mode – whammo, here’s the solution.

All of the previous opposition to single-provider has been kicked out of the Democrat party.  [Blue Dogs Dispatched] The DNC will unify, as one single voting bloc without a single representative in divergence, behind the Sanders proposal.

As ObamaCare explodes, the factional infighting between the purists in Hillary’s Favorite Republican Caucus and various GOPe proposals will continue.  Directly into this void of leadership will flow the single-provider plan, just as the Democrats and the coordinated media messaging tell the American electorate the solution is right there:

“Medicare for all”.

The only thing the voter needs to do is get rid of the intransigent republicans and give them back the house in 2018 and maybe the White House in 2020.   The Democrat call will be for a deafening mandate. Every activist and social justice group will respond to the thunder-drums.

In the unseen background, the activist Labor Unions will go along with the Democrat plan.  So too will Tom Donohue and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce (GOPe).

AFSCME, SEIU, AFL-CIO will go along because employer removed health insurance premium costs leave more room for lucrative labor contracts.  Tom Donohue will go along because the cost of Healthcare will remain off the ledgers of multinational Wall Street corporations and global bankers.

The Health Care providers and networks of Big Health Care and Big Pharma will go along, because the Democrat plan will apply the same approach as the Industrial Military Complex to Healthcare.  Expansive crony-healthcare contracts provided at the public coffers, with unlimited taxpayer financing therein.  Everyone can get rich.

Promises of big multi-billion dollar government contracts will go to those within the industry who will sign up to help the DNC execute the 2018 election plan.  Billions will be spent with projections of hundreds of billions in later returns on investment.

This is the extremely predictable end result of the opposition put forth last week by Hillary’s Favorite Caucus HFC (aka House Freedom Caucus).

I hate democrats with the force of a bazillion super-nova’s, because their schemes are infinitely easier to pull off than oppose.  However, this ‘Ice-Cream-For-Dinner‘ was entirely predictable.  Thanks to the #NeverTrumpers, this was almost too easy.

Once the government is responsible for providing all the care,… well, a few decades from now, our kids will meet “The Minders”.

…”That was easy… Now, let me tell you about Muh Constitution”…

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996 Responses to Dems Make Strategic Healthcare Plan for 2018 – Sanders Will Lead on “Single-Provider” Proposal…

  1. rsanchez1990 says:

    A few decades? If single-payer passes, the debt will be blown to hell and, as Donald Trump said, we become Greece, we become a country that’s unsalvagable. The minders our kids will meet a few decades from now will all speak Chinese.

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    • BG says:

      Correct, everyone wants to live on other people’s money.
      Socialism provides the mendicants the political justification to do so. The school education system makes socialism the accepted normality in US kids today.
      We let the Teacher’s Union change America with barely a whimper.

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    • Blade says:

      If single-payer passes, the debt will be blown to hell

      They got that covered. I call it the curse of large numbers ( not to be confused with the “law” and probability trials ) and it is where sleepy human sheeple lose focus of increasing quantity when base magnitude is simply incremented.

      When federal spending first went past one trillion dollars ( during Reagan’s 2nd term IIRC ) after years of spending 500 billion, 700, billion. 900 billion, 990 billion, the powers-that-be correctly ( and very conveniently ) incremented the base to 1 trillion. Then 1.1 trillion, and 1.3 and 1.8 then, well, you know. The point is that the nearly 4 trillion dollars that they just managed to spend last year alone sure sounds a lot more reasonable than 4,000 billion or 4 thousand billion or 4,000,000,000,000.

      When the spending went from 800 billion to 900 billion, its magnitude was almost understandable to the average sheep. But that is the same as going from .8 to .9 trillion which radically reduces the impact. Now we routinely lose the meaning of hundreds of billions of dollars in discussing spending ( Bill Gates equivalence ) as we glide through 3.7 to 3.9 trillion dollar outlays with abandon. Who really cares if it is 3.45 or 3.76 or 3.98! In fact they should have a press conference wearing party hats if they managed to go from 3.98 to 3.97 trillion, but they won’t. Rounding errors at this spending level are indeed humorous since they are in the tens of billions of dollars. The cost of the border wall itself.

      Furthermore, the minimum national debt is now 20 trillion or 20 thousand billion. Who really cares if they jack it up to 20.1 or 20.2 or 22. The Congress-scum know full well that nobody cares, even though they are literally stealing money from their not-yet-born descendants to fund their current livelihoods. This is the greatest act of insidious selfish narcissism ever dreamed up by man. But they got a fix for that too. Just stop educating the young. Don’t teach math or even responsibility. Raise them as mindless snowflakes and continue on.

      So yes. the the debt will be blown to hell, but no, no-one will give a crap. And why should they? There is no real limit to how far in the future they can “borrow” ( steal ) from. And they will be long dead before enough people who care show up with a guillotine and a bucket for their heads.

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      • rsanchez1990 says:

        There is a limit. America’s people may not care, but America’s creditors sure as hell do care. Once the US is unable to pay interest on its debt, the collapse will be quick and very painful. The Greek people didn’t care about the debt, until the Germans started breathing down their necks demanding fiscal responsibility to pay their debts to German banks. Greece just gets more unstable by the day, with more and more riots that western media won’t cover because they know this is the future that awaits America if we don’t get our financial house in order.

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        • Pinkie says:

          The US can print more Dollars. Greece has to pay its debts in Euros.

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        • Blade says:

          There is a limit. America’s people may not care, but America’s creditors sure as hell do care. Once the US is unable to pay interest on its debt, the collapse will be quick and very painful. The Greek people didn’t care about the debt, until the Germans started breathing down their necks demanding fiscal responsibility to pay their debts to German banks. Greece just gets more unstable by the day, with more and more riots that western media won’t cover because they know this is the future that awaits America if we don’t get our financial house in order.

          There are theoretical limits only but none in reality. Not when you are the biggest kid on the block. In theory FedGov has to pay whatever kind of “interest” that Treasury holders were promised. But ultimately they can just be canceled. Congress can do anything, Nazi Pelosi even said so when asked where they were authorized by the Constitution to regulate healthcare.

          For international creditors like China and the UK, it is a simple matter of who has more muscle, or nukes. It wouldn’t come to that since MAD came along, so they are left with invasion and conventional warfare. Since warfare costs more money than it returns, our creditors will decline that option. Besides, biggest kid on block is the USA armed citizenry. So they have only the choice of international legal warfare, but again, FedGov can just say screw you to any judgments. Remember this is theoretical exploration of some future running up of trillions or quadrillions assuming international creditors are dumb enough to continue acting like drug dealers fronting smack to a degenerate junkie indefinitely.

          The only issue of substance our FedGov really worries about though is here at home. If Social Security checks or Welfare payments or other legislated Socialism gifts suddenly stop, FDIC is terminated and banks collapse, then they need to run for the hills, literally. But they got a solution for that too. Slave Labor. It is the very reason for the entire immigration system and even the illegal alien invasion. Despite every glorious speech celebrating diversity, it is getting dumb cheap labor to load up the front end of the ponzi scheme so the back end detonation gets pushed further away into the future. No-one ever asks why we needed +100 million more people since 1980, or is there any limit on that? Anytime you hear a politician or business or industry or Wall Street talking head saying if you’re not growing, you’re dying, it represents one small part in the giant ponzi scheme.

          Something happened back in the fall of 2008 with the banking crisis. It was curious how McCain suspended his campaign and everyone rushed back to Washington and even Bush appeared spooked after closed door meetings. I think there really is a star chamber of “important” people using ductape and glue to hold the ponzi scheme together. I think it was why Obama was ushered in as a malleable dupe to manage the next few years. And it sure as hell explains why they despised the TEA rallies opposing TARP and later Obamacare, and why they mortally fear an uncontrollable outsider like Trump. The only remaining question is whether the truth will ever escape those back rooms and make it out to We The People.

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  2. Looking for Joe's Place says:

    In all our Cold Anger, let’s also remember to be Merry Warriors !

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    • Billydunn says:

      Is it just me or does Jeff Sessions seems to have just disappeared ?
      Anyone have an answer ?
      Doesn’t Pres.Trump have to pushback at some point?

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      • Sentient says:

        Sessions should immediately commence investigating and criminally prosecuting for fraud, restriction of trade and violations of the Robinson-Patman Act any/all healthcare providers who bill patients $X for a given product or service while accepting as payment in full for that same product or service something less than $X when paid by an insurance company. Send the colluders to the big house.

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        • Michael says:

          Robinson-Patman Act Thank you for this! Next time I want an extra service from the doc and am quoted an outrageous price multiple times higher than what they accept from my ins co I will tell them they can charge me what they accept from CIGNA or hear from my lawyer.

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      • Laronda says:

        Exactly? Where is he?

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  3. Yadent says:

    In the 2012 election cycle, Sander’s state of Vermont voted on and passed legislation for a single payer system for that state. In 2014 the state scrapped the concept as taxes were deemed outrageously excessive for such a system. The Federal government’s own ‘single payer’ system, Medicare/Medicaid, consumed 37% of ALL Federal spending last fiscal year. 1.417 TRILLION dollars. It has been growing at a yearly rate of 9% since at least 2000. I can’t imagine how the government will run a much larger single payer system without either financially imploding in short order or mandating massive wage and price controls and/or ever increasing taxation.

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    • Howie says:

      Vermont does not have a Federal Reserve money tree, does that answer your question?

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    • Sentient says:

      It’ll be massive wage and price controls plus ever-increasing taxes. Probably higher income tax rates plus a brand-new Value Added Tax. If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait til it’s “free”.

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    • Paul Killinger says:

      The only part you’re omitting is their COLLECTIONS from SS and Medicare taxes still cover their outlays.

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      • Sentient says:

        Yeah, collect Medicare tax from all workers over age 15 to pay for Medicare only for the elderly. It’s easy to make THAT work (sort of). Enrolling everyone in Medicare will require more and higher taxes.

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      • Yadent says:

        Are their Medicare/SS collections increasing at a yearly rate of 9%? If not, then their healthcare outlays will soon exceed intake…..if they haven’t already.

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    • mike says:

      They will tell you “No!” on life saving treatments.
      -at first, if its really expensive
      – then if its slightly expensive
      – then if you are over (a useful / taxpaying) age
      – or if you are in an expensive health group (diabetics…)
      – or if they don’t like you
      – or if they owe you money / prepaid benefits

      I lost a 40s something cousin-in-law because she needed intravenous antibiotic and the UK National Health Service would only give her oral antibiotics. Dead in 24 hrs.

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    • NvMtnOldman says:

      Please list the costs of medicar/Medicaid separate . How much of each one is paid by the person and how much is paid by the gubbermint?? I am 81 and have been paying into Medicare for many years, still do today. I also =have paid taxes that go into Medicaid all the time too.

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    • Donald says:

      There should be no room for defeatism at this site. All we need to do is focus on YADENT’S comment here: to build and expand it into a doomsday scenario which Dems will carry around their necks into 018.
      It’s time conservatives faced facts: Medicare is and always was Socialism. IT SHOULD BE USED AS A CAUTIONARY TALE, AND NOT AS SOME SHIBBOLETH ABOUT WHAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT.That it has become economically indispensable is more an indictment of American cronyism capitalism. If in 2017 the Federal Government offered Food Stamps to those 60 and over, in 20 years the program would be absolutely indispensable to those 60 and over, and likely expanded to those 55 and over. AND NO ONE COULD BE ELECTED WITHOUT AGREEING!

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  4. BG says:

    Cheer up….
    From the Battle of Kings Mountain…… Patriots vs Loyalists

    “The day seemed ominous. “The sky was overcast with clouds, and at times a light mist was falling,” Collins recalled. “Our provisions were scanty and hungry men were like to be fractious; each one felt his situation; the last stake was up and the severity of the game must be played; everything was at stake—life, liberty, property, and even the fate of wife, children, and friends seemed to depend on the issue: death or victory was the only way to escape suffering.”

    Nothing much changes really…..

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  5. zaq123 says:

    Is he going to push the same, single payer, that his beloved, Vermont tried and had to scrap?

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  6. andi lee says:

    We’re struggling here in America, yet “every hour Americans are paying $2.93M in foreign aid”.

    $2.93 million dollars per HOUR.

    https://www.nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/foreign-aid/

    I know it doesn’t help to bring this up but I see/hear/read soo much poverty, homelessness, child hunger, and gangs perpetrating senseless crime, right here – in Houston. Add illegal immigration expenses. Pisses me off!

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  7. Panzerakc says:

    Is Bernie going to hold any meetings at his new house?

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  8. These comments are just mind-boggling for me; I’m an old lady who has spent the majority of her life working in public service, yes an elected official, retired b/c I just will not lie, cheat and steal for anyone; more to the point, Sundance is spot-on!!! He is telling you the truth. When Donald J. Trump announced his intent to run for President; he was telling you the truth.Now, Pres. Trump continues to tell the truth. People can listen, hear the truth and believe the truth or live in that alternative universe in the mind that helps you to sleep at night and move along foggily all day, everyday, doing just what needs to be done to get through another 24 hours.
    Do what you will, believe what you want; reality will eventually set in. Sundance is not negative, he is truthful and realistic. Pres. Trump is not bombastic and Hitlerian, he is truthful and realistic.
    One lesson I learned, after many years of experience in politics: If the subject and banter seems unrealistic, doesn’t make any sense, soap-opera drama driven,complete lies, utter gossip, etc., etc., it is the direction the party will move in to bring in the majority of the followers, in order to move their agenda.
    It is 100% accurate. Everytime I ever heard or said myself, :”Well, this just make any sense at all. How stupid are these people? This cannot possibly work.” It worked, it got passed, useful idiots bought it hook, line and sinker and voted for it or hated the politician,public servant, the opposition was trying to destroy for reasons the public never, ever knows…not ever.
    Never, ever believe anything is impossible in politics. As I was taught (seriously_), it takes 1) start a rumor, 2) spread the rumor…..

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    • BG says:

      Hmmm…really.
      If you were a public servant you liked govt and taxpayer transfers to you who produced nothing. Don’t be shy. Pull my other leg.
      Healthcare is majorly socialised in the US right now. It will be completely so in a decade or two, if you want the Mayo clinic you will insure yourself for that. Top medicine like top cars will mean you pay…..a lot.
      The last thing the State wants to do is “empower” the poor with transferable health vouchers that would reduce the cost and improve the quality of medicine. People don’t spend on rubbish when they have a choice, but that transfer of control is not what the crony state wants…so it won’t happen.

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      • Jedi9 says:

        You know why BG? Because people like you and many others already admitted defeat in demanding free market healthcare. As the saying goes you get the government you deserve. If you are not willing to fight for it, instead complaining that elected officials did nothing, and continue to do nothing is no ones fault but the American electorate who continue to sit on their couches expecting someone else to carry the load for them. Guess what? That is what everyone else thinks too! I don’t see anybody organizing on the right to begin a march into Washington DC demanding to fix healthcare and hold politicians accountable! That is what it has come to, more apathy and fleeting expectations that is absorbed in comfort foods, TV shows, and more of the same distractions to make us all forget who is really winning this fight!

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        • BG says:

          You don’t get it even at this late stage, do you.
          Free market Healthcare can only exist for sovereign individuals with work or stored wealth.
          If you think the other bottom 150 million are not going to get anything but pretend low level Healthcare forever because they can’t pay or insure and you won’t subsidise them you’re in ga ga land.
          The only chance of you not massively subsidising the bottom is the secession of a State that has that in its new constitution.

          It will be forced upon you, you silly boy. The only way the bottom get Healthcare is if the top subsidise it in some way.

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          • Angry Dumbo says:

            Well said, BG. Thank God not everybody at the CTH has taken ill.

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          • Jedi9 says:

            Sorry but I respectfully disagree with your premise and you completely missed my point. But go ahead keep think along the lines of subsidized and low level healthcare, because that is not the point in addressing the problem with this morass! In order to have effective health care, especially in the US the cost issue has to be addressed first, something no one is willing to address because they think by addressing insurance companies and this underwriting is what dominates the narrative instead of actually looking at free market competition which ultimately will drive down costs. Look at at Singapore’s healthcare system, or Japan’s? They don’t have the problems that the US has right now, which pays the most in the world for healthcare and is clearly insane. Why doesn’t no one want to sincerely address this issues of cost is pretty basic. Because our system is corrupt with special interests writing policies in order to game the system by way of monopoly, and they have the politicians in their pockets. Try living in a country like Japan or Singapore for a year to really gain some perspective, which by your premise I can see yours is myopic!

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            • BG says:

              “Look at at Singapore’s healthcare system, or Japan’s.”

              You demolish your own argument. These systems are totally socialised. The taxpayer subsidises everyone. if you want more you can insure privately for more.
              And that’s all she wrote.
              That said, a voucher system is an excellent way to allow people to shop for the best possible standards of treatment and lift standards everywhere. ie. no-one uses bad providers.The same would work brilliantly for education.

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              • Jedi9 says:

                Thanks for cherry picking my statement, while ignoring the rest of it. Singapore is not completely socialized and either is Japan’s, and seeing it is obvious you haven’t lived there to experience their healthcare or know intimately how they work, it’s useless truly to have this discussion with you. So go on, beat your chest in thinking you won this argument, thus the adversarial narrative in winners and losers is the American Achilles heel. Watch much football do you? Did your team win today?

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          • mike says:

            Harry Browne, Doug Casey et al have long discussed the succession of the individual…at least since Carter….

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  9. Odysseus says:

    Jeez, sounds serious! If only we had some governmental mechanism whereby a determined executive could block a legislative proposal unsupported by a super-majority…If only…

    Why are the Super-Trumpers here worried about single-payer? Surely you’re not concerned he’d actually SIGN such legislation?

    Are you?

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    • Yadent says:

      I believe SD mentioned elections in 2018 and a White House election in 2020. If the fickle voters decide that something for nothing is available, the Uniparty could retake control with both elections. Of course if NOTHING is done via healthcare by 2020, we will probably be witnessing a federal financial meltdown as healthcare spending at the fed level will be near or at 50% of ALL Federal outlays……

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      • Jedi9 says:

        Exactly! Which is why this strategy was part of the plan all along. Something has to be done now and sooner rather than later to address the corruption that is being funded by the likes of Koch Brothers, Tom Donahoe, and Trumpka that are fueling the uniparty apparatus. As Einstein once said, we can’t not solve problems with the same methods in which created them in the first place.

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        • john graham says:

          this could all have been avoided…if the republicans would have simply defunded obamacare in 2011…like they promised to do….and we need to stop thinking the govt needs to provide medical care for everyone….THIS BILL WAS AN EXCREMENT SANDWICH…AND TOO MANY ON OUR SIDE WERE WILLING TO TAKE A BIT

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          • mamadogsite says:

            Don’t forget…..Because they were paid NOT TO defund, repeal and replace by big $$$.

            It was in their best PERSONAL FINANCIAL INTEREST not to tinker with it, but to blabber in front of TV cameras their anger and indignation against Obamacare, and how hard they were working for 8 years to repeal and replace. Stupid plan after stupid plan were suggested, knowing full well they were essays representing the will to fail.

            2018 and 2020 folks. Get busy on your phones and with postcards . Bug your Representatives daily…tax reform…the wall…BUDGET CEILING..(how much do you want to bet they will shut down Government over the budget??????????????)

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      • Paul Killinger says:

        So what? The Federal Reserve will just print more cash to fund it.

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    • Howie says:

      The GOP is now, thanks to The Freedom Carcass, in the political position of blocking FREE MEDICARE FOR ALL, in favor of some plan that does not exist. Losers.

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      • john graham says:

        like phase 2 and phase 3??? if this is such a good plan, vote on it…don’t you remember what the dems did to reagan on amnesty…THIS IS THE SAME GARBAGE

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    • Sentient says:

      President Warren would sign it.

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  10. Howie says:

    Compare a complicated HSA ACCOUNT you buy in another state to Free Medicare for all from a marketing point of view.

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  11. jakegr says:

    I wish liberals would accept the simple reality that you can’t have single payer and open borders.

    If you want to accept gobs of refugees and low skill immigrants, while at the same accomodating poor blacks who are increasingly losing jobs to said influxes of immigrants, then you simply CANNOT provide generous welfare benefits.

    The liberal worldview is a FANTASYLAND. There is no scarcity of resources in liberalworld. “The rich” always have more to give.

    I don’t want single payer at all. But if a liberal faction gave a coherent proposal of generous welfare + closed borders, then I could actually respect them again.

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    • Howie says:

      FREE MEDICARE FOR ALL eliminates Medicaid for all practical purposes. Medicare itself has no provider networks. So many easy sales points. Just a small…..to start with deducted from a paycheck or subsidized payment for Part B. The people will buy it hook line and sinker. The Freedom Carcass has guaranteed it. Sundance is right on the money IMO.

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    • Mariposa 323 says:

      Then you need the open borders so the immigrants can pay the taxes to afford the free healthcare . 1 plus 1 equals 2 .

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    • John Galt says:

      “I wish liberals would accept the simple reality”

      Our educational system is devoted to precluding that possibility.

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  12. Keln says:

    Sounds bad, but two things here:

    One, the so-called “Freedom Caucus” cannot, in principle, support single-payer, even if they want it.

    Two, Donald J Trump is president, and he will not sign any such bill from the Democrats.

    It isn’t brilliant. It’s retarded. No such bill would get anywhere. No matter how untrustworthy Republicans are, they still want to win reelection in 2018. So they can’t support government healthcare. The tea party types would ream their asses for it.

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    • Joshua2415 says:

      The freedom caucus won’t be needed if Ryan and McConnell allow it to come to the floor for a vote. There will be more than enough republicans voting with the democrats to pass it, and probably enough to override a Trump veto.
      No way republicans would support a taxpayer bailout of big banks either right?
      “Never let a serious crisis go to waste” – R. Emmauel

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    • Paul Killinger says:

      They won’t have to. The Dem’s plan is to wait until they elect their next Pres and have simple majorities in Congress, and “Medicare for All” will be the “shiny object” to get them there.

      Then the so-called CONservatives can rail against it to no avail. Meanwhile, thanks to their “support” to retain O-care they’ll have plenty of money from the Chamber and the Koch Bros to get themselves reelected.

      Mission Accomplishrd!

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    • vfm#7634 says:

      Not to mention that the only way to fund single-payer is to tax our asses off.

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  13. Howie says:

    On his island in Bora Bora Obama has a big banner out. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Thanks to the Freedom Carcass and Never Trumpers. I have watched their posts here in the Cruz Bot invasion for the last few days…to them all I say….

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    • It’s not a coincidence how many Never Trumpers are members of the Freedom Caucus. These members act as though they are the ultimate conservatives in congress when most are nothing more than globalists, just like their Koch Brother masters.

      The last picture posted in the article pretty much sums up the agenda of the Never Trumpers/Freedom Caucus. I don’t doubt for a second that most voted for Hillary.

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  14. Azrajo says:

    No doubt Paul Ryan will be thrilled. He is busy now greasing the skids for Trump on tax reform .by the way follow the money who’s wife lobbied for the health care industry ? Is that why he kept his bill under lock and key until the last minute ?

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  15. Fingolfin says:

    Hey Sundance, thanks again as always for laying out the battle space and explaining what the uniparty PTBs are really up to with new policy proposals and/or media narratives like this one from Bernie Sanders. We’d all be up a creek without a paddle without you.

    That said, I’m beginning to find myself feeling more and more frustrated by all the posts like this one which only explain how Trump is getting beat (and/or how the PTBs are out playing Team Trump), and don’t provide any of your incredible insight into how Trump can/will counter.

    In other words, it would be awesome if you could end posts focused on situations where Team Teump is currently on the defensive with how they might be able to counter and return fire. (n.b. I completely understand if you’re not sharing your counter strategies bc doing so would tip off the uniparty and undermine Trump’s ability to fight back).

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  16. Howie says:

    If you think this is irrelevant to the topic….think again. Welcome to the New Improved Sesame Street.
    China’s New “Social Credit Score” Brings Dystopian Science Fiction to Life
    https://futurism.com/chinas-new-social-credit-score-brings-dystopian-science-fiction-to-life/
    In China, Your Credit Score Is Now Affected By Your Political Opinions – And Your Friends’ Political Opinions
    Things that will make your score deteriorate include posting political opinions without prior permission, talking about or describing a different history than the official one, or even publishing accurate up-to-date news from the Shanghai stock market collapse (which was and is embarrassing to the Chinese regime).
    https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2015/10/in-china-your-credit-score-is-now-affected-by-your-political-opinions-and-your-friends-political-opinions/

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    • Howie says:

      Wall Street, Main Street, and Sesame Street. The new pardigim.

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    • China has long since been the model nation of the “new” world “order”. That’s why the words were first uttered there by Nixon in 1970 or 71…

      Meanwhile, the world itself fiddles.

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    • trapper says:

      China’s history and culture are so different from America’s history and culture they might as well have dropped from the sky. Chinese deference and subservience and bowing and scraping and being just one small ant in a giant ant hill is part of their cultural heritage. It was not imposed by the communists. The worked with what was already there.

      America’s heritage and culture? It can be summed up by two words, the second one is “you.” We even have a simple salute that requires only a single digit. Quite a difference.

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  17. Peter says:

    I had a funeral where I had to tak with my liberal friend of 20 years – he refuses to speak to me since nov 8th. In the old days, we freely talked politics, usually with laughter.

    What made us laugh this time ? We sat and for the first time in my lifetime, I sat and we bashed the stupid CONservatives, together.

    How stupid are they? He knows single payor is coming – they all do – and Friday is part of the story that made it happen. Idiots.

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  18. Dora says:

    Is this what the dems want for us?

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  19. Paul Killinger says:

    All this proves is one 74 year old Socialist is smarter than ALL the self-described CONservatives in CONgress!

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  20. Southrider says:

    There’s a good reason its not in the constitution.
    Single payer is the dream of the left. Shortly thereafter “we can’t say you don’t have the right to own a gun. We’re just advising you guns are dangerous so you’ll have no coverage if you own one”. Sorta’ like a leash on the individual like CO2 regulation is to energy.
    Oh, and once you’re old and there’s too many old whites and not enough old …(fill in the blank – asian, gay, whatever) you’ll be told your coverage is being ‘right sized’ or the like.

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    • Kristen says:

      Yup. And the politicians will take money from big pharma while they add products you need to take to keep your coverage. No flu shot? No coverage. No statins? No coverage. Etc. After all, it’s “free,” right?

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  21. ZZZ says:

    brilliant or just pre-planned and conniving?

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  22. jeans2nd says:

    Sorry, guys. Cannot share your fatalism. A few decades from now – or less – “The Minders” will meet OUR KIDS, which, oddly, includes my kid and my kid’s kids. My money’s on OUR KIDS.

    It ain’t over yet. Y’all discount we Crazy People way too much (which is prob a good thing). And we Crazy People are not going anywhere. Count on it.

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    • Howie says:

      Prepare for probing.
      In general, quality of life (QoL or QOL) is the perceived quality of an individual’s daily life, that is, an assessment of their well-being or lack thereof. This includes all emotional, social, and physical aspects of the individual’s life. In health care, health-related quality of life (HRQoL) is an assessment of how the individual’s well-being may be affected over time by a disease, disability, or disorder.[1][2]
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_life_(healthcare)
      For better or worse, regardless of your stance on them, health assessments are on many corporate wellness checklists. So we figured we’d build one that best matched our unrivaled approach to behavior-changing worksite wellness – with the following just-as-good-as-if-not-better-than-the-other-guys features:
      http://www.sonicboomwellness.com/health-assessment

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      • jeans2nd says:

        Add in Activities of Daily Living, an assessment nurses have been using for decades now. That still hasn’t stopped us. There is always a way around the “system.”

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        • Howie says:

          You got it. Beware the company safety officer….soon they will follow you home after work to check your lifestyle. In our Merchant fleet the spys were the medics that would go from one vessel to the other.

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      • Concerned Virginian says:

        Howie
        Medicare has been doing the “quality of life” thing, implicitly OR explicitly, for some time now.
        I had to fight Medicare and Pennsylvania Blue Cross 12 years ago when my father suffered a stroke. They wanted him to have Palliative Care only in a nursing home. I got them to agree instead for skilled nursing rehab. My father lived another 2 months. Only 2 months, you say? Not very long. BUT—my father WANTED TO LIVE.
        RIGHT NOW, I am fighting Medicare and Virginia Blue Cross for my husband. He’s 106 and has cancer. They are starting to deny claims, reducing doctor payments, etc. He’s 106, you say? Well, life doesn’t owe him anything. BUT—he WANTS TO LIVE.
        You MUST know that “Quality of Life” criteria is determined by MEDICARE and PRIVATE HEALTH INSURERS, NOT YOU or your loved one.
        THAT is the case in countries that have SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE: England—Canada—France—you name it. THAT is what BERNIE SANDERS and ANYONE who supports Single Payer Health Care for the United States wants. The PATIENT’S WISH TO LIVE IS DISREGARDED.
        And, if Single Payer Health Care is brought to the United States, the “Quality of Life” criteria will be used for EVERYONE, not matter of what age.
        ONLY the VERY wealthy and/or members of the NEW NOMENKLATURA will be permitted to LIVE and to get better medical care.

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    • john graham says:

      I can’t believe our side has come to this…FEAR …REALLY….that is what you are going with??? how about we get the govt out of healthcare??? anyone think of that , sundance??? or are you sticking with you starting point…of the govt has to provide healthcare??? that is what replace means isn’t it??? or is it just the fact that you want our side in charge of healthcare, that makes it okay now???

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      • Howie says:

        How else can free health care be provided to poor people? The problem with government is that they pay off all the expensive crooked ancillary’s at the same time. As in anything government the graft costs more than the care. The graft factor is at least 50 percent of the cost.

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      • asawasa says:

        you are being a useful idiot. of course we want government out of healthcare and everything else as much as possible. the key phrase is AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. unless you or someone else is willing to take up arms and violently overthrow our current government, your all or nothing approach doesn’t work. so for the rest of us living in reality, we will try to do that can be accomplished.

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        • Concerned Virginian says:

          asawasa
          If you are are referring to Howie, he IS NOT a “useful idiot”.
          And regarding the “violently overthrow our current government”, take out the “violently” and you’ll get the “soft revolution” of the Bernie Sanders/Chuck Schumer/NeverTrumpers, etc, types.. That’s also part of the “living in reality” that WE, THE PEOPLE are living in.
          If you’re talking “useful idiots”, THEN you’re talking about the Antifa/NeverTrumpers/MSM, etc., types.

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  23. deplorablegracie says:

    I plan on bringing thirty pieces of “silver” (nickels) in a pouch💰to my “Freedom” Caucus rep’s district office. For politicians to do this to the American people, they must have no soul, no conscience. I just can’t fathom.

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    • john graham says:

      bring it to ryan instead…he is the one who convinced you that govt need to be in charge of your healthcare

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      • Sentient says:

        LBJ did that 50 years ago. Even Reagan didn’t undo that. George W Abuse made it worse with his Medicare Part D. All the tri-corner hats and Gadsden flags in the world won’t convince people that giving the mentally ill the right to wander around babbling yet free of government overreach is a good thing.

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  24. trapper says:

    Let’s not confuse our objectives. We should hold our focus on our existential struggle, which is a globalist/nationalist conflict. How America organizes and pays for healthcare for our citizens is not part of the globalist/nationalist battle.

    As emergent nationalists our first priority should be to secure and defend America’s borders, protect onshore jobs for American citizens, and project a foreign policy abroad that clearly identifies the interests of American citizens and then actively promotes and defends those interests. These should be our first and highest priorities, and pursuing this nationalist agenda is what we elected Donald Trump to do.

    However, internally, as proud America-first nationalists, we may among ourselves have principled disagreements as to how the American healthcare delivery and payment systems should be structured. Single payer? I’m willing to listen and have the discussion. Not being an ideological conservative, I don’t wake up every morning and light a candle on the altar of free market capitalism. But I expect that if we seriously have the discussion it will become clear very quickly that at the base of any single payer system is the same socialist pipe dream that has caused every socialist system ever attempted to collapse.

    But hey. Sure. Let’s have the talk. Just remember, it has nothing to do with the globalist/nationalist fault line we should be focused on. It’s a distraction, and probably a deliberate one.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      “light a candle on the altar of free market capitalism”
      Fair market, not free, trapper. There is a difference.

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      • Willy says:

        Getting rid of 45,000,000 illegal aliens sucking the govt healthcare teat would be a good start… Building a wall to keep them out would be an even better start. Fines, jail and forfeiture of all assets for employing illegals would be even easier and quicker.

        And you know what?

        Ike did some of it! Look up OPERATION WETBACK, Eisenhower’s successful program.

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  25. Howie says:

    Schmoe and Mika have trotted out Jim Jordan….hahahaha!

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  26. @rogo000 says:

    I don’t suppose too many people were glued to the TV back during the Democratic Presidential debates but for myself I had to watch one debate between Hillary and Sanders. Only one statement stuck with me. At one point they were discussing “Obamacare” and Bernie Sanders jumped in and said he was one of the chief architects in writing the bill. I was thinking to my self, “you got to be sh***ng me”. This guy helped write the first mess of a health care bill and now he wants to step up and do it again. Send that socialist to Venezuela or Greece.

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  27. tvollrath66 says:

    This is a report about half the babies born are born with mothers on Medicaid. This is what makes up a big part of the budget.
    We cannot keep paying for people to come here and have babies. NM is 72%

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/24-states-50-babies-born-medicaid

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  28. Jeff says:

    OH SURRRRRRRRE you can own a gun . That is IF you can afford the premiums under single payer RISK rates set by UN-elected bureaucrats . Sure you’ll get care . That is from the age of 14 to 40 under the COMPLETE LIVES SYSTEM .

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  29. jeans2nd says:

    Y’all go on ahead and indulge yourselves in your pity party. Do enjoy it now. It will not last.

    Bernie Sanders will propose single payer. SO WHAT?

    In the meantime, HHS Sec Dr. Tom Price will be rewriting Obamacare regulations – Phase 2.
    The newly-dispatched Blue Dogs will join with the Mod GOP to pass Phase 3 – laws that will regulate the regulators.

    Good grief, what happened to American Innovation? Shirley it did not disintegrate with the supposed defeat of Ryancare.

    It IS only DAY 67, for cryin’ out loud.

    Y’all need to come to my North Coast. People are really really po’d. Fun and Chaos reign supreme.

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  30. amwick says:


    http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/03/made-obamacare-great-again/
    Ouch. I don’t think single provider will gain traction with voters when it is explained that you will lose half your income to tax…. HALF!!!!! and that is a conservative estimate. I am not throwing in the towel yet.

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  31. saintoil says:

    I don’t see much pity here, lots of cold cold anger at the uniparty frustrating our agenda and cementing thier COC inspired coup to hold on to Obunglecare. We should be winning and moving forward but we are replaying the Omnibus bus running over us again. Deju Vu and just unexpected after a hard fought victorious battle against the corrupt witch.

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    • Howie says:

      We knew congress would just dither and slither in to the new year and CR. No surprise to me. Alls we have is the presidency and his personal powers. Some of his cabinet and most of the field ee’s in the agencies are still there. We know what they will do before they do it. Our Rines are combat hardened veterans starting from the GZ campaign. Lots of green troops showing up lately. Stick with the vets. We can smell the enemy a mile away.

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    • georgiafl says:

      The Omnibus Bill was also Serpent of the House Ryan’s bill.

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      • georgiafl says:

        Ryan was just as much an Obama enabler as Boehner ever was.

        The Freedom Caucus went along with all of it too.

        (expletives deleted)

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  32. tuskyou says:

    Ted Poe was just interviewed on cnn by Camerota. He said there are more of him (we’ll see) and made it very clear that everyone had input but they still voted no. The perfect being the enemy of the good. Touched on tax reform and few other things. I hope his interview shows up here. Thanks in advance to anyone who finds/posts it here.

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  33. flawesttexas says:

    Koch = Soros

    There is no difference

    Freedom Caucus emboldens Socialist Bernie Sanders

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  34. During the 8 years of the Obama Presidency our Supreme Court, Senate and House of Representatives allowed the Chief Executive to run the country and create rules and regulations without significant response from any branch. Not only did they not oppose his decision to ignore them but funded his every request.
    During the last 16 years our political parties and our elected representatives working together created $20 trillion in taxpayer debt, removed all debt limit restrictions, signed up for trade agreements that resulted in the closure of 60,000 factories, loss of millions of jobs, record numbers of American requiring government assistance, the loss of trillions of dollars in citizens savings and investments and 1% percent interest rates on IRA’s and savings.
    We face an onslaught of illegal drugs and people due to open borders and sanctuary cities, unaffordable healthcare, an expensive out of control collegiate educational system and public educational system that is dysfunctional and failing generations of children, and a government approved and taxpayer funded abortion program that kills children and sells their ‘working human body parts”,
    Washington is not a swamp but a national septic tank that collects and distributes political sewage to/from at least 50 different sources called state legislatures bribed by the grants paid for by taxpayer money. West Virginia receives $14 Billion in federal grants each year but collects only $4 billion in taxes etc. Mountaineers are not “always free” but have become government dependents.
    The results of 100+ years of thoughtless reelection of people unqualified to maintain their own checkbook is finally paying off for the politicians but is destroying our republic. Our representatives are elected to preserve and protect our country and its people. In Washington D.C that is a joke.

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  35. I’ve been saying all along that this is where we’re headed….medicare for all. That doesn’t mean I support it, it just means that if we have such a system then why reinvent the wheel and create another bureaucracy.

    Personally, I believe the payroll taxes will be much too high to support medicare coverage for the entire population. As you know, it stands at 15.3% and for many folks, this is higher than their blended rate for income taxes. (I know since I’ve prepared thousands of tax returns as a CPA). However, if this becomes reality, Congress will be looking for other sources of revenue for medicare….another prediction.

    As a side note, I recently read a proposal that suggested we lower the medicare age to 55. As a result, medical insurance rates would fall for everyone else making coverage more affordable, according to the article. Sorry, I don’t have the link.

    Just saying, that’s all and no, I’m not Bernie Sanders.

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  36. wizzum says:

    And the cost will be a levy on working people of 15% bringing the tax rate up to what it is now from whatever POTUS brings it down to. Win WIn, they can say taxes have been reduced but adding the levy on doesn’t reduce the income to the IRS

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  37. ectrimm says:

    1. HR 1628 did not remove the individual mandate, it only set the upfront tax/penalty to zero. Thus, one still technically had to have “insurance”–(the mandate is about control; which is really what “government” healthcare is all about; its not about care or the Feds would have included themselves in the program.)–otherwise the fee/tax/penalty would have to be paid on the back-end to the insurance companies. Bait-and-Switch One [Read the Bill]

    2. Funding for Planned Parenthood was only eliminated for one year. It would have returned as the mod Rs in the House and Senate (i.e. the New Democrats, which apparently represents a lot of folks on this Board) would not have supported the Bill otherwise. So all of you claiming that the HFC enabled PP are just plain wrong. Additionally, there is an interesting use of the word “may” in the reading regarding this subject–Bait-and-Switch Two. [Read the Bill]

    It would be helpful if more people on this Board would stop speaking from their on “resources” and actually consider a primary source. There seems to be a lot of “former” democrats and liberals who have forgotten why they were liberals and democrats.

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  38. BHLiberty says:

    You could be right Mr/Ms Sundance! If the Democrat party inserts themselves into the Healthcare argument or fix, let them do so! (As many people know, the liberals have been dreaming of a single-payer system because it works so well everywhere else! sarc!) But they have one problem, and that is we now have a Republican President who yes, campaigned on repealing the ACA and create a system that everyone could love! (his words) The other problem the Democrat Party has is trust! Since their healthcare bill was passed it has been and continues to be a disaster! It would take a lot of convincing by many to get a bill, like you suggest, passed despite the corporate interest! Personally, I hope you’re wrong but I understand you’re trying to point out what could be political reality not necessarily what you advocate! I think we have a long way to go before this happens! I’m going to put my trust in a man, President Trump, who never walks away without a fight and I might add, very clever!

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  39. Chewbarkah says:

    If enacting Single-Payer in the wake of an inevitable ObamaCare collapse is indeed the Democrat’s strategy, then why is Pres. Trump signaling outreach to Democrats to get enough votes to pass an even more watered-down reform bill? Such an effort could be expected to go nowhere, while further alienating the conservative elements of Congress, and the electorate. Perhaps his tactic is to make the general public completely aware that 1) ObamaCare is collapsing on its own; and 2) that the Dems’ cynically intend it to — before swinging back to the right to pass full repeal. That makes sense up to a point, because showing that ObamaCare is kaput either way removes the reason for resisting repeal. The problem is that the Dems control the organs of propaganda, and the Republicans are not good at getting their story told..

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  40. Sunshine says:

    Trump could intercept this by reaching out to Bernie and asking him to work with his team on a new plan. If Bernie refuses, it makes him look bad.

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  41. I am happy Trump is catering to the democrats and moderates that brought us Obama for 8 years.

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  42. Those dumb conservatives. If they had not stood in the way of blocking comprehensive immigration reform a couple of time, we could have saved all the money being spent on a stupid wall. There would be no need for one because it would be too late. Troublemakers…they are.

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  43. Jenny R. says:

    Well, now is the time for the “Freedom” Caucus to put forth their grand plan for healthcare reform then — since they were so forceful in stating that Ryancare was a bad idea (and yes, it was, but again — never make the perfect the enemy of the “ok, for now”).
    They will have to keep in mind: some of the electorate will like the Dems’ ideas for single payer (because they are stupid); some will go along with it (because they are increasingly desperate); and finally that nearly everybody thought healthcare costs were a problem prior to Ocare (so they can’t just hit a reset button).
    Time to set out a truly conservative challenge to Berniecare — but it will gore some of their handlers’ sacred cows (like funding illegals/open borders, and corporations…and the desire for single payer, because it will make the people their serfs) — will they have the salt (and patriotism) to fight for it???
    Color me doubtful….but they should have their feet held to the fire nonetheless (and Ryan’s side of the GOP, because they are just as guilty a party as well…Ryan could have made that bill a lot less of a stinker, should have served the President better, but nooo).

    As for the Dems’ idea: probably time to start hammering that it will indeed raise taxes, lower actual care; and make serfs of us all (you will have to live as they tell you to, and you won’t have enough money left to engage in anything but existence anyway, so there’s that).
    Maybe start asking if there will be any exemptions: namely well connected politicos and unions, from their glorious single payer system…or will it just be all the wealthy who can arrange for operations outside of the country.

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  44. MissV says:

    Right, I can see it now: Trump the Chump Signs Single Payer Health Care Bill – Put Forth by Loser Sanders.
    Wow. Just wow.

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    • Can you imagine him having to open his golf courses up for the single payer system. After all, when the doctors prescribes a round of golf as therapy to clear your mind and keep you fit…….. there will be no reason to have luxury golf courses for the rich and crappy ones for the poor. Those crappy ones would just add to the stress.

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    • Lin Rei says:

      Please do not be disrespectful to President Trump and to all his supporters on this site. I realize you are likely paid to Troll, so at least you called yourself out by being so obvious. Attack POTUS, you are attacking us. Disagree with potential policies and directions is fine. Trashing and trolling not.

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      • Do you think moderates like you are the only ones who voted for Trump? Moderates are the reason we are in this mess. If it wasn’t for conservatives , there would be no President Trump. There would not have been 3 million illegals that voted for Hillary in 2016. There would have been 30 million and they would not have been illegal. They would have had voting rights if the conservative, tea-partiers,,etc. had not stopped the immigration bill.
        Besides, how is it that I am trashing Trump? You don’t think Trump is smart enough to know what single payer leads to?

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  45. Luis says:

    Sundance is sometimes correct but not always accurate and unfortunate misrepresenting Ted Cruz. Nobody is perfect but actions and not words are evidence of where the truth is. Ted Cruz has consistently exposed Bernie Sanders and socialists communists (democrats and some republicans) who they want to use government as a power tool to take away freedoms. Those interested in the truth will find multiple occasions where Mr. Cruz exhibits the difference between freedom of choice and how Bernie Sanders single payer (Hillary’s healthcare proposal) will ration health providers and creating the death panels. It was Ted Cruz who filibuster in the senate Obama Care with some support of Rand Paul and others.

    Paul Ryan is a liberal and a proven looser. Republicans will loose control of the house and Trump’s presidency agenda may get derail is we let him remain in control of the country. After all he betrayed President Trump. Yes and although late and I did not like it but Cruz did come back, endorsed Trump and campaign for him to win.

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  46. pcockroft says:

    Trump should go back and do what he knows is best as it is. Start with tax reform then infrastructure as these have solutions. Health care is a true drain as no one wants to spend money on health but want it when they are sick. It is that person’s responsibility to take care of themselves.our town has a center who is supported by the community for indigent and has some of the best care anywhere. The hitch is it cost 20$ per month and you have to have a job no matter what the pay.. So work or no health care no freebies. And that includes all .This is how a free market health care can work as most,people will donate time,money and necessities to help others. We will loose our good doctors if we pay a salary,,or become too busy because the government makes what they do cheap. Let the free market determine care not insurance, or government,or pharmaceutical companies.if medicine is cheaper elsewhere allow people who o shop there and medical procedures too..Hospitals pay taxes as other companies but that money be used for research. Make our health care Great as it once was and keep the government out and doing what the government is suppose to do and certainly,not business or car manufacturing or medicine.

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    • Willy says:

      Trump should go back to what he knows best….
      Hes a builder?
      BUILD THE FRICKEN WALL, THEN.

      Huge confidence builder for those of us who believed his rhetoric. Absolutely mandatory if healthcare is ever going to get fixed, by driving out 45,000,000 enemy invaders who are destroying this country the hell out of here. And then keeping them from walking back in.

      Why wasn’t the WALL started on day 1????????

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  47. Kelly says:

    Totally irrelevant to the topic, but Bernie’s picture in this post are a bit disconcerting. No one get to close to him while he’s posed like that!

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  48. litlbit2 says:

    Okay Sundance, take two, vent! Put thinking cap on. When we all signed onto the Trump Train, nobody, nobody thought we had a snowballs chance.
    Look where we are. We did not get here by listening to the losers!
    It was President that lifted us, now with President Trump+us, wow!
    We have the right man, President Trump, we have a movement like no other, we have the biggest supporter, HE is watching.
    Just think without the above we would be wearing Burkas!
    It is less than 70 days in, much has been accomplished including the exposure or the establishment, uni-party, agenda drivers.

    Now it is time to really go to work, third down and a cloud of dust, move it!

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  49. Dee Lewis says:

    My Mom developed Myeloma, possibly from working too close to the WTC on 9/11. She had a great Doctor who when other meds started failing her, enrolled her in a new experimental drug being tested. She was doing well. Then Obamacare came along and even though she was on Medicare, they would not take her anymore because they said now they have more forms to fill out, get rated and less money. Unfortunately they dropped my Mom as a patient and she had to go to a new Doctor at a large hospital where she just became a number. She passed away in a matter of months.

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    • Sentient says:

      It would be different under Medicare For All. There’d be less paperwork because everyone would be included. Doctors and hospitals would take what Medicare pays or quit the industry. Your mom would not get the experimental drug under Medicare For All. She would have to fly to India for treatment.

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  50. Michael says:

    No doubt craven politicians of all stripes will support “Medicare for all” as is one less thing the must dodge.

    We’ve gotta protect our phony baloney jobs!

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