March 21st – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #61

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1,461 Responses to March 21st – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #61

  1. Pam says:

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  2. Martin says:

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  3. Pam says:

    While we wait for POTUS, Paul Ryan is at the mic now.

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  4. Martin says:

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  5. JoD says:

    President Trump is the only person in DC who wants to Drain the Swamp.

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  6. Pam says:

    Here’s POTUS! Yay!

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  7. Martin says:

    Anyone know what he (Gorsuch) means by this?

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  8. fedback says:

    The ban of electronic devices on flights from muslim countries is based on intelligence from the Yemen raid, apparently

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  9. georgiafl says:

    I’m with Rand Paul on Ryan Obamacare Lite – https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/844327286987993093

    Do you think the bill will go to a vote or be pulled?

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    • georgiafl says:

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      • Pam says:

        He’s talking about this bill but the truth is Rand Paul’s bill won’t pass the senate or the house. He should take his ideas and sit down with POTUS and have a real discussion rather than trying to be an obstructionist. He would be wise to listen to POTUS or we will lose the house and the senate next year.

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        • WeThePeople2016 says:

          Exactly. I am tired of his whining. He has tried to sabotage this bill from the beginning. He has been working on the Freedom Caucus members behind the scenes for months. It is his way or no way. He is angry that his name is not on the bill.

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          • SeekerOfTruth says:

            This is not about Trump.
            It is purely Ryan versus Paul people. Neither bill is good – Ryna or Paul’s. The Rand Paul bill would never pass House or Senate. Trump is having letting this war play out because he has no choice tat this time. But publicly giving full support to the House leader and gets points for that.

            But Trump really wants a compromise bill and than mean people like Paul will get some things. But they will also have to let some things go at this time.

            Paul and his people have never been much more than obstructionist and are always opposing things and never get anything passed.

            Myself I hate both Ryan and Paul equally. Neither are good for the country unless they lean how to deal and gets things done even when it is not all their way. Deal and get something done.

            PS. Trump has been to Capitol Hill 4 times already in a couple months. Obama went to Capitol Hill only 14 times in his entire 8 years.

            Trump also invites Congress people to his office several days a week. Heck Obama had the Muslim Brotherhood to his office many more times than Congress people.

            Bottom line:
            If this fails it is on Ryan and Paul not on Trump. Trump met with them all a number of times and tried to make a better compromise deal, but both sides refused to budge much.

            As I stated Republicans are not a team and need some team building to see if they can work together. It may take public failure to get them more humble and willing to deal and work as a team.

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          • WSB says:

            And it’s not even a good way. Rand keeps yakking about everyone buying into groups.

            But it’s the separated groups that still maintain a false elevated floor. One does not need to be in a group to purchase car insurance. We all just buy individually. No employer or AARP ACTING AS MIDDLEMAN. PERIOD.

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        • georgiafl says:

          I thought they had a meeting about it?

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        • georgiafl says:

          Lou Dobbs seems to say Trump likes Paul’s ideas. I’ve heard the same elsewhere.

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          • majorstar says:

            Trump is supporting Ryan’s bill. That’s all we need to know.

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            • georgiafl says:

              Trump has also praised Rand Paul’s ideas.

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              • majorstar says:

                Yes, but Paul isn’t on board with Trump. To me that’s the key factor. Paul isn’t supporting Trump, and is working against him.

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                • Sharon says:

                  Rand Paul is not on board with Paul Ryan! He is not against Trump!

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                  • majorstar says:

                    I just don’t think you can remove Trump from the equation here. I don’t care if Paul voices dissent, but if he brings about the failure of the bill he’s opposing Trump.

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                • Theoldbear says:

                  So Ryan is supporting Trump ? So where have you been for the last two years on the planet Mars with no radio 📻!!!!!

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                  • majorstar says:

                    Look, stop with the sophistry. We know this is Trump’s bill. It will be interpreted that way no matter what dork Republicans try to spin. I don’t care if this were Chuck freaking Shoomer’s bill, if Trump was for it I am for it. Capiche?

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            • Theoldbear says:

              Both have flaws and a real bill with actual structural fixes needs to be written, but this may take time. In the short run Rand Paul is always better than Ryan. There is no bigger swamp creature in Washington than Ryan except McConnell (democrats not included in this assessment). Make no mistake anything Ryan touches is evil and has a pure globalist agenda.

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        • Sharon says:

          The American people will lose not ramd Paul! Paul Ryan bill sucks!

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        • amjean says:

          President Trump has stated that he
          discusses the issue with Rand Paul
          frequently. Rand Paul is for repealing
          Obamacare and replacing with free
          market solutions, not Ryancare light.

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        • mopar2016 says:

          Why was the part that excluded illegal aliens pulled from the bill?
          I don’t want to pay for illegal aliens, I don’t like them.
          Where is the part about healthcare savings accounts?
          Where is the part about competition and buying across state lines?
          Paul Ryan is trying to please the globalists and lobbyists that own him.
          Obamacare needs to be repealed. It can be done.
          I would rather see a total repeal and no replacement than Ryancare.
          But replacement was a campaign promise and I think they can get it right if they try.
          I’m not a Rand Paul fan but he’s right about Ryancare.

          I think that the president is going to keep pushing us in the right direction.

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      • Peter says:

        Has Rand Paul ever done anything I. The senate? Like pass a bill into law?

        The bloviators on the right that come to the table with nothing but their mouths are driving me nuts …

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        • georgiafl says:

          Maybe their place in the world is to be a counter-weight.

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          • majorstar says:

            So good for the Democrats that they don’t have so many such “counterweights”. These pure and principled “true conservatives” are the bane of the Republicans.

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            • georgiafl says:

              Sometimes they are the conscience of the Republicans.

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              • majorstar says:

                In different ways, I feel any Republican faction can function as a conscience. I see nothing consistently virtuous about the ideology of the “true conservatives” to bestow that title on them. I think they’re mostly asses. And their ideology is largely designed to serve corporate interests, not the common man.

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              • cozette says:

                I notice that Rand consistently lies about what Trump ran on. He says Trump ran to repeal Obamacare. He did not. He ran to replace it. That is very different than what Rand wants and Rand knows that. It is Rand that wants people to have no help at all despite his rhetoric.

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              • amjean says:

                The only conscience of the republican
                party that I can see.

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            • mopar2016 says:

              I’d hardly call Rand Paul a “true conservative”.
              He’s actually your run of the mill Libertarian.

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              • majorstar says:

                Ideologue nonetheless. This isn’t the time to stick it to the President, especially after they gave Obama his way so many times. And… I’m mainly referring to the so-called “Freedom Caucus” which I believe were fervent Cruz backers and style themselves true conservatives.

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          • SharonKinDC says:

            If the counter weight is too heavy, it will capsize and sink the ship. Rand hasn’t put in the work to get 60 votes for his bill, with does not impress me. Perhaps he thinks he can hold out for some changes and if they are good ones, then kudos. However, if that does not work, at some point, he’ll have to decide to grandstand until the end and ruin it all, or gracefully capitulate and support it.

            ‘You can’t always get what you want…but you might just find, sometimes…you get what you need.”

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        • M. Mueller says:

          Ryan’s accomplishments aren’t outstanding either. What a fustercluck!

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        • Oldschool says:

          In the past 8 years, other than o care, no one in congress is passing laws. EOs and judges now doing that.

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        • Sharon says:

          Has Paul Ryan ever passed a bill or accomplished anything during his 17 years in congress should be the question not Rand Paul! We shouldn’t pass a bill if it’s bad even though you claim Rand Paul bill would not pass! Rand Paul bill is better than Paul Ryan! Passing Paul Ryan bill is as bad as passing Obamacare!! Paul Ryan sucks!

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        • Theoldbear says:

          So what has Paul Ryan done ? Answer support Obama and globalist that’s all. Get real, wake up man !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • Timmy-the-Ute says:

        I am not impressed with Rand Paul. I’m know Ryancare doesn’t go far enough, but you can’t get rid of Obamacare unless you repeal it. No one believes the House bill is the end result. There will be a Senate bill and then a conference bill. What is Senator Paul accomplishing by killing everything now and leaving us with Obamacare for a generation or two. It wont’ go away by itself. Replace it with anything and you can build from there. I think Paul is wrong. It Ryancare will pass the House. COC won’t let their boy fail. This is Ryan’s bill and Trump knows it can be improved.

        If Ryancare fails Ryan is dead. That might be good, but it leaves us with Obamacare, which is not good.

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        • Sharon says:

          Timmy you say replace it with anything!? Really!! You sound like Nancy Pelosi past Obamacare to see what’s in it! You people are losing common sense!

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          • mimbler says:

            Absolutely. I fail to see why the republicans won’t just write a good bill, take it to a vote and it either passes or the voters can see who the impeders are. In a year or two when Obamacare goes belly up the voters will insist that the good bill is passed.

            The Ryan bill just seasons Obamacare with republican condiments. It doesn’t really improve it let alone fix it.

            But republicans will own it and be held responsible when it implodes.
            Mike

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    • benifranlkin says:

      why r u asking us if u r with Rand Paul? I think he is doing self-fulfilling prophecy and hope he is wrong. methinks he has some animus for Paul Ryan

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      • Pam says:

        I think Rand Paul thinks any bill that doesn’t have his name on it is a bad bill.

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      • georgiafl says:

        I am not ‘with’ Rand Paul – I’m just not with Ryan’s Obamacare lite that gives health care to illegals and has other big problems.

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        • WeThePeople2016 says:

          If it was Obamacare lite, President Trump would NOT be signing the bill. I have faith in our President and in his judgment.

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          • georgiafl says:

            I’m willing to trust that Trump isn’t going to sign anything that compromises his Contract with the American Voter.

            https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_landings/contract/O-TRU-102316-Contractv02.pdf

            ‘Promises Made – Promises Kept’ was posted in the arena last night!

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            • WeThePeople2016 says:

              He knows what he is doing. We need to trust that. Rand Paul’s bill would NOT pass the House nor the Senate, but he doesn’t tell anyone that. Also, when questioned about NOT having the 60 votes in the Senate, Rand Paul then says, well, that is not my problem that the votes are not there. Rand Paul does not care if the GOP and Trump goes down with the Obamacare ship. Trump knows that it has to be done in 3 phases because of the Senate rules. Sundance thoroughly wrote about this several times last week. Maybe it needs to be posted again.

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              • Sharon says:

                RAnd Paul is not trying to sink the trump ship geez! Paul Ryan here is the snake! Wake up people! I can’t believe after all the things Paul Ryan has done and the snake he is you people are falling for his trap! Rand Paul is more trustworthy than Paul Ryan any day!

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                • Theoldbear says:

                  Right on ! He just has quirky libertarian bent. But he is not a RINOe globalist and Obama lover like our boy Lyin Ryan ….

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          • amjean says:

            Trump is playing the long game.

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        • Hollywood Bungalow says:

          Hoping someone can confirm that the illegals healthcare issue was pulled out due to concern with reconciliation and parliamentarian rules. I’m willing to give a pass.

          Rand Paul is a dog. Are we willing to keep OC or make an 80% improvement?

          Party of stupid!

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    • I am going to trust President Trump on this one. If the freedom caucus doesn’t like it, it may be the way to go. Freedom Caucus is funded heavily by the Koch Brothers and Club for Growth according to open secrets and I don’t trust either one.

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      • Pam says:

        Exactly. That’s exactly why they don’t like him because he doesn’t answer to the special interests. Heck, club for growth came against Mike Huckabee of all people.

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      • WeThePeople2016 says:

        The Head of Club for Growth was a huge NeverTrumper all throughout the primary and the election. Trump called out Club for Growth all the time during his TV interviews and on the campaign trail. No surprise there. Same with the Koch Brothers.

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      • georgiafl says:

        Doesn’t sound like the bill is near ready to put in the oven yet.

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      • The problem is in the numbers. The Freedom Caucus says they have 27 members. Ryan can only afford to lose 22 votes. If that caucus votes against, the House bill fails and it won’t even go over to the Senate. So every major player is trying to make a deal with them. I have no guess as to who will be more persuasive, or more persuadable.

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    • Yes he sold me tonight on Dobbs.

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  10. Pam says:

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  11. Lucille says:

    “Trump Justice Department: Muslim convicted in Brooklyn Bridge jihad terror plot should lose U.S. citizenship”
    March 21, 2017 4:06 p.m. by Robert Spencer
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/03/trump-justice-department-muslim-convicted-in-brooklyn-bridge-jihad-terror-plot-should-lose-u-s-citizenship

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  12. Trumppin says:

    Just came upon this – President Trump is speaking at this moment
    LIVE: President Donald Trump Speech At The National Republican Congressional Committee Dinner 3/21

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  13. Pam says:

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  21. NHVoter says:

    Ugh why?

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  22. Sandra-VA says:

    So, this seems to be a new trend… accuse Trump companies of unfair competition…

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  23. Abster says:

    It really hurts to think these R politicians don’t want to hop on board. They seem to forget why we elected President Trump.

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  24. Trumppin says:

    here is a great little 10 minute video on the various forms of Government and why we are Not a Democracy and why we are a republic – should be shared with every democrat!

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  25. Trump's Aussie Mates says:

    I note that MSM is reporting the ban of certain electronic devices as carry-on luggage on certain flights as a ban relating to a number of “middle eastern countries” rather than “Muslim-majority countries”. What has changed? Oh, silly me, it’s because Dems support the new restrictions.

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  26. JoD says:

    There are 435 members of the US House of Representatives and 100 members of the US Senate.
    Can you name 5 (1%) members who have President Trump’s back?
    Good Luck!

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    • Educated Citizen says:

      There 60 million + voters that are with President Trump and the 435 members will need these votes in under 2 years to stay employed

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    • Oldschool says:

      They all need to be primaried and replaced, but remember, that’s how most of the freedom caucus got elected. We wanted them to obstruct laws like o care. Well folks, they are doing exactly what we sent them to do. We never anticipated Trump and if we could all be objective, Ryan’s bill sucks. It may be the least of evils, but it is NOT free market conservative principles.

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    • NC PATRIOT says:

      Chris Collins, Duncan Hunter, Mark Meadows, Louie Gohmert, ?Chuck Grassley

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  27. truthandjustice says:

    The latest adjustments to Ryancare deleted the provision to crack down on illegal alien coverage.

    The provision would have allowed the Treasury Department to access data at the Department of Homeland Security to verify that healthcare tax credits went only to U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents, not to illegal immigrants.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/ryancare-updates-provision-crack-illegal-aliens-deleted/

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  28. Martin says:

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  30. NC PATRIOT says:

    He sends out ONE tweet yesterday “The Russian nonsense is Fake news–used by the Dems to explain why they lost the election—-”

    Reaches 100,000,000 people. Weak ? Really?

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  31. jeans2nd says:

    This Reuters article raises many questions, re: Tillerson, NATO, Montenegro, new date for NATO meeting, Russia. Unnamed sources, leaked Tillerson letter?

    Exclusive: Tillerson urges Senate ratification of Montenegro’s NATO membership
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nato-montenegro-exclusive-idUSKBN16S2VH

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    • ALEX says:

      Reuters, AP etc are on warpath with disinformation against Tillerson, because he has shut them out……I suggest everyone read any article like this and only trust the actual quotes or a transcript…

      In other words, 99% of the words in these articles are to shape a narrative and many times they are from leaks…Its interesting to take the spin out of the story,and examine the actual quotes

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    • Thorfinnr says:

      Can’t believe we can’t see Russia’s position here. Montenegro is right next door to Kosovo which is, of course, Muslimville. The former Yugoslavia, which, like Russia, is Orthodox Christian, is trying to contain the spread of low IQ Muslims who have children like dogs have litters. If these folks don’t care about the misery of their wives, what do you think they think of their children. Suicide vests. These angry feral mobs are being released upon Europe now, and the Catholic church has a pontiff who aids and abets them. I know you all may think Putin is some evil, scheming political KGB agent, but the guy has shown he is honestly concerned with the survival of Orthodox Christianity. I believe that is his motivation for involvement in Montenegro. Vlad the Impaler didn’t run these creeps out of Romania by being Mr. Swedish Stuart Smalley Al Franken. Western Protestants like Tillerson and Trump don’t understand the revival and life and death fight Orthodox Christianity is undertaking in Eurasia. And I’m a Western Protestant.

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  32. ALEX says:

    Trump used the words wire tapped…Easy to deny that. I would be interested in a list of the people who live in Trump Tower..Paul Manafort has lived there for years. Story today said a Russian gambling ring a few years back, unrelated to Trump obviously…

    We need a senator when Comey testifies to ask about surveillance of any Trump associate in Trump Tower…Obviously Trump ran his campaign out of Trump Tower. I don’t trust the Obama administration not using this entire episode to infiltrate Trumps campaign…

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  33. Walt says:

    I get everyone is entitled to an opinion on healthcare but I have a representative in President Trump. I voted for him and I stand with the decisions he will make. You all need to breathe easy and quite with all the hysteria.

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    • BakoCarl says:

      Really agree here. Trying to follow the “progress”, changes, who’s the good guys or bad guys, who said this, who didn’t say that, who’s making good deals, who’s pushing bad deals, whose worse Ryan or Paul . . . and all this before the senate goes at it with a meat cleaver . . . is the perfect prescription for a migraine headache, heartburn, IBD, and excessive flatulence all wrapped up into one neat little package.

      So, what to do? “I have a representative in President Trump. I voted for him and I stand with the decisions he will make.” Right on, Walt!

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    • amjean says:

      My nose isn’t up Trump’s behind.
      I love the guy, however, as a citizen
      of this country it is my duty to
      question and research what our
      government is doing.

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  34. Bull Durham says:

    Gorsuch is the best candidate for SC in 60 years. He has a great sense of humor, a judicial temperament, outstanding intellect, loves people, is grounded as a father and husband, loves nature, is spiritual and philosophical.

    And he pisses off the Dems!

    I watched about 8-9 hours of him today off and on and he was terrific.

    I don’t care if conservatives think he is one of theirs.
    He’s an American who loves the brilliance of the Constitution as an elegant social contract for Rule of Law and equity for all people in our society.

    Amazing!

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  35. truthandjustice says:

    Sarah Palin on Comey:

    “The swamp runs deep. Where are Congressional ‘investigators’ on this conflict of interest issue? Why aren’t dots more clearly connected by those in authority, those privy to information that we peasants are not? Why is tainted Comey still part of Team Trump? How long does he get to ride the train?”
    .. Comey has a connection with the Clinton Foundation due to his involvements with organizations that either donated to or worked with the group, but failed to disclose it during the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails.

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/03/21/sarah-palin-says-trump-should-get-rid-of-comey-due-to-clinton-ti/21904826/

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    • Walt says:

      She is great at telling others how to act. She has strong beliefs she should of ran. I am tired of pundits opinions. Instead of telling President Trump how to do things figure away how to spread sunlight on swamp creatures that are preventing his agenda!!!

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    • WSB says:

      I hate to differ with all of you but please read ‘Adios America’. You will not understand Coulter’s sense of urgency unless you read that book.

      Ann has so much research about the cultures that are opposite of ours. With the rape/sodomy of the 14 year old girl in Rockville, Maryland, Ann has warned that most countries other than the US have cultures that include child rape and child brides/slavery. It goes for Central, South America, the Middle East and the Far East.

      The US is an exceptional nation…because we are the EXCEPTION. Different than other countries that allow debauchery, countries that are not made of law but dictatorship, socialism, fascism or communism. These are countries that demean women, children, and good fathers.

      The USA is a country of LAWS. 95% of other countries are not.

      You see? That leaves Western Europe, Australia. And New Zealand.

      There is your answer.

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  36. Martin says:

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    • jakegr says:

      I will say a Lord’s Prayer for him that day for sure. I don’t trust anyone in Brussels.

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      • sunnydaze says:

        yuck. Me too.

        Blech. I know it’s impossible, but I wish he’d just stay away from these disgusting Western European countries and their “leaders”. They all stink.

        Broad brush, I know. And I’m excluding UK from that, til they prove otherwise.

        If they wanna see Trump, let them come here. Or arrange for everyone to meet ….in Russia. LOL.

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    • soozword says:

      I wish PTrump would announce his intentions for the U.S. to completely withdraw from NATO if they continue their open borders policies. Don’t see the point in NATO if they aren’t going to vigorously defend themselves from the Muslim hordes.

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    • JT says:

      France and Germany are worried because they want us to keep paying to protect them, while they sit back and laugh at us stupid warlike Americans. those days are over! watch Trump say it to their faces.

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  37. ivehadit says:

    It is clear: The globalist republicans do not want to repeal Obamacare and the NeverTrumpers want to stop the president and, by extension, us.
    WE WILL NOT FORGET IN 2018… AND BEYOND.

    Please everyone get on the phones tomorrow and tell your congressman to SUPPORT TRUMP.

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    • I’m with PowerLine blog’s Paul Mirengoff on this when he writes:

      “No Republican should support replacement legislation unless he or she is confident it will result in better outcomes with regard to premiums/deductibles. If Democrats won’t support legislation that’s likely to produce that result, Republicans should either push such legislation through without Democratic support (overruling the Senate parliamentarian) if necessary or let such legislation be voted down.

      “Republicans have no obligation to pass replacement legislation they don’t like in order to patch up Obamacare. The Democrats created the current mess. If they won’t cooperate with the GOP in fixing it properly, Republicans shouldn’t take the political hit that would come with pretending to fix it on their own.”

      http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/03/tom-cotton-nails-it-on-the-ahca.php

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  38. Peter says:

    Pages like this is advocating violence. The left is completely unhinged and they have a long history of hate and hate groups. Nothing has changed. When I see posts like this I report them to the authorities.
    We can’t take anything For granted. Disgusting.
    If inappropriate delete but the more reports the better.

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  39. sunnydaze says:

    I rarely do this, but I heard Rachel Maddow is going to expose Russian hacking that turned Bernie peeps against Hillary or some nonsense, tonite.

    This could be a great show that will further destroy Dem credibility among voters.

    It’s on now!

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