Epic: Maria Bartiromo -vs- Jonathan Gruber…

Reason #756 Why Donald Trump won the election…

Oh brother, is this video ever epic and telling.  Maria Bartiromo interviews Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber on the impact of ObamaCare on small business and U.S. economic growth.

The cognitive dissonance of Gruber is gobsmacking.  I can’t even describe it, just watch:

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311 Responses to Epic: Maria Bartiromo -vs- Jonathan Gruber…

  1. Sam says:

    This guy is full of crap. My brothers employer offers his employees health insurance. However all he can afford is the bronze plan. He wants to do this for his employees. Now my brothers insurance went from $15 a week before obamacare with a $1000 deductable to over $60 a week with a $6000 deductable. I have a friend that has worked at Target for 12 years had health insurance and other benefits. Since Obamacare, she gets less than 28 hours a week and no benefits. She was getting upt to 36 hours a week before obamacare. I know a lot of people that were full time employees but are now part time because of obamacare and have no benefits now. So Gruber with all his education is an idioit that doesn’t understand real economics!

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    • squid2112 says:

      Ah, but this was the plan all along. Gruber does know what he is doing. He knows exactly what he is doing (has done). The whole goal is to force insurance companies out of business so the feds can takeover healthcare, lock, stock and barrel. This is the infamous “single payer healthcare” they have been working so desperately hard to achieve. For it is one of the primary tenets of Marxism.

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    • mike says:

      Gruber should watch movies of the French Revolution. In his desired world path, his head on a pike is a likeliy eventuality.

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  2. Tom Anderson says:

    Ok, so real people paying more, companies not hiring and admitting it, all of that is not “data”, but a online survey is DATA.

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    • Tom Anderson says:

      Would that online survey be anything like all the online polls that said Romney would win, then turned around and said Hillary would win in an “epic landslide”? Those kinds of online surveys?

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  3. William39 says:

    Companies exist to provide jobs and health benefits to their employees…according to the Left. By natural extension, government is the one that dictates what those benefits must be (remember, you neither built it nor own it!).

    Through this distorted prism, everything Gruber says makes sense. Obamacare slaps businesses with obtuse mandates? Just like minimum wages laws, government believes these mandates have no impact on how you, particularly the small business owner, make decisions to run your business. Because, after all, dulling out employee benefits is your business.

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  4. Frankie says:

    Maria rocked it!

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  5. txfella says:

    This motherf*cker better not ever cross my path……..

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    • mike says:

      He probably already did. Look for something that looks like a very large dog turd with a $x,xxx or $xx,xxx bill (or extortion note) attached…

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  6. Kerry Gimbel says:

    Listening to this video reminded me somewhat of Tucker interviewing Ezekiel Emmanuel last night. Same disconnect. Same arrogance. I wish it was just stupidity. These people know exactly what they are doing. And it’s not in our best interest.
    I must also say Ezekiel looked very stressed. Bloodshot eyes, very irritable. Looks like defending his failed system is taking a toll on him.

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  7. dayallaxeded says:

    As appropriate as bashing Grubber and 0bummerdon’tcare is, the underlying problem of skyrocketing healthcare costs isn’t really addressed by trashing these goons. Doctor visits, meds, and diagnostics discussed in this very comment thread all show that the underlying costs are, in fact, insanely out of control. So what does broad, allegedly non-partisan, objective data have to say about all this? Here’s the site Grubber mentioned–I suspect its data and analytical methodology is about as manipulated as the POTUS polls and climate data have been, but I don’t have the knowledge/skills to do analyze it. Anyone here interested in CTHing (i.e., sunlighting) this?

    http://kff.org/health-costs/report/2015-employer-health-benefits-survey/

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    • nosyneighbor says:

      True – people conflate health insurance costs with health care costs probably because health care cost increases mean health insurance cost increases. We need to figure out what is driving the increase of cost in health care. One reason could be the influx of government funds to the insurance market via Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. (as we’ve seen with government-controlled college loans and the increase in tuition.) But I suspect there is more to it. Unfortunately, I’m not an expert in health care or subsequent costs in any way but it doesn’t take an expert to point out the very real problem. Maybe if everyone had to pay out of their own pocket for doctor visits, tests, etc. prices would come down due to the need for affordability and increased competition in providers? Health insurance could then be only for catastrophic events?

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      • squid2112 says:

        Well, consider that just in tax compliance along, the US citizenry spends over $380 BILLION per year. Now, consider how much money is wasted in healthcare “insurance” regulation compliance and the like. I believe the current estimate is well north of $500 BILLION per year. That is just for compliance alone ! … add in the costs of nearly zero competition, and VOILA! .. you probably nailed about 80% of our frivolous costs in health care/insurance. There have been volumes written about the rest.

        To me, there is absolutely no mystery whatsoever why our healthcare costs so much, and why our health “insurance” costs so much. It is pretty evident to anyone with 2 working eyes and 2 working brain cells.

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        • Jett Black says:

          What do you mean by “competition” in this context? One doctor or hospital or drug company competing with others to deliver better/cheaper services to patients or insurers competing for business? Could be both, but as a practical matter, I think the recent and current insurance regimes have done a good job of forcing the medical providers to cut and streamline, except that we, the patients aren’t seeing any cost savings, only reduced care.

          I agree, anecdotally, that cutting red tape and its incredible costs is a huge factor. Many years ago, my wife and I fell between coverage after a job change at the same time that she was pregnant–pre-existing condition, no coverage for routine pregnancy/delivery. Negotiated with the local hospital, set up a payment plan and paid about 30% of what it would have cost with insurance even back then.

          My question and essentially the gauntlet I was throwing, related to the oft-repeated argument that things would be even worse for employers and workers without 0bummerdon’tcare; i.e., that the rate of climb for costs is less than it was in years prior to the 0bominable Unreadable Act. If we’re going to do more than just harangue and shout down the Grubberist opposition on these points, we need more and broader facts and analysis, not just opinions and anecdotes.

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        • Orygun says:

          The short version is if you put the government between you and any business it is going to drive the cost up. If we paid cash with no gov’t regulations such as a mile long paper trail it would be half the price.

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      • cheeflo says:

        You are exactly right — restore the competitiveness to the health care market and prices will come down while availability will go up. One does not need to be a health care expert to understand how the market works. ObamaCare has created an artificial scarcity, as most distortions of the market by the government typically do.

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      • mike says:

        A lack of real competition.
        – excess regulations, especially FDA
        – bribery, public and private
        – price fixing tactics
        – medical education and “ethics”

        Genuinely effective and inexpensive medicine is discouraged, disparaged and disrupted in many ways. A part of this is the long term attacks on therapeutic nutrition.

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  8. R-C says:

    “That’s his story, and he’s sticking to it!”

    Gruber is the poster child depicting what passes for ‘higher education’ these days. Gruber is the guy who is passing judgment on whether or not your child ‘earns’ a good grade, and therefore, a college degree. Gruber is ‘case-in-point’ on the utterly broken state of higher education.

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  9. Paul R Wright says:

    My insurance through Aetna, after retiring from UPS after 32 years of service, went up 500%! My deductible has shot up as well! This bozo is a bold-faced liar!

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  10. snailmailtrucker says:

    They didn’t Name him GRUBER for nothing !

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  11. Mist'ears Mom says:

    My Insurance as an individual went up again from 2016-$696.80 a month to 2017-$781.77 a month. My old insurance plan before the unaffordable obummercare act was $255/mth and it was a great plan, it went to $525 org.
    One of the problems with the individual market is basing your part of the payment on your income. This is a huge problem. The cost is outrageous, it is half of my mortgage payment how in the heck can anyone afford this without a subsidy from the gov? Answer is most can’t – so I’ve reduced my income and let the government subsidize the balance. Seriously how can you make $36K a yr and pay $780/mth for insurance? It ain’t happenin.
    I don’t know what world these idiots like Gruber are living in but it isn’t the real world.
    In perspective what kind of car could I be driving for $780/mth? I’d be driving a Maserati and living on a near poverty income. It’s way out of wack and for a reason.
    The reason we are paying $780/mth is so we can cover everyone who is on Medicaid and pays zero and everyone on these plans who get gov subsidies. It is almost a single payer system, doomed to fail under its own weight. Cloward – Pivan…don’t think there isn’t a method to Obummers plan for our nation.

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  12. Luke says:

    This interview was retarded. Screaming at someone every time they try to speak helps no one. I don’t know whether I agree or disagree with Obamacare, but as far as this interview is concerned, the only one behaving like an adult here was gruber.

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  13. DK says:

    Seriously Luke? You don’t understand that it is frustrating to speak to someone who is telling you you CAN pick up a turd from the clean end? If you don’t know whether you agree or disagree with Obamacare, then are you considering whether or not the end of the turd that Gruber is indicating is the part you should grab it by? By all means, let’s all be civil and watch our tone of voice, but you do realize, pointing out demeanor and not addressing the issues is a form of controlling the dialogue by distraction, right? We don’t have to listen if the speaker isn’t talking in well-modulated tones and only showing the deepest respect while being baldly lied to. Did you keep your health care plan? Did your premiums go down $2500/year? That’s not data, right? It’s only anecdotal so it can be pooh-poohed. The economy is growing, right? How about if you deduct government growth from the GDP? Still growing? But not Obamacare’s fault, by any means. Premiums are growing much more slowly now than they EVER have!!!! does that even make sense when your premiums are a house payment sized chunk of your income? Should I get a car or get health insurance? I can’t drive my health insurance to work, but at least when I’m unemployed it will be 100% subsidized. So, Luke, you really HAVE made up your mind about Obamacare. Don’t forget to wash your hands……

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  14. THE MAD RUSSIAN says:

    Well a man come on the 6 o’clock news
    Said somebody’s been shot, somebody’s been abused
    Somebody blew up a building, somebody stole a car
    Somebody got away, somebody didn’t get too far yeah
    They didn’t get too far
    Grandpappy told my pappy, back in my day, son
    A man had to answer for the wicked that he done
    Take all the rope in Texas find a tall oak tree,
    Round up all them bad boys hang them high in the street
    For all the people to see
    That justice is the one thing you should always find
    You got to saddle up your boys, you got to draw a hard line
    When the gun smoke settles we’ll sing a victory tune
    And we’ll all meet back at the local saloon
    We’ll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing
    Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses
    We got too many gangsters doing dirty deeds
    Too much corruption, and crime in the streets
    It’s time the long arm of the law put a few more in the ground
    Send ’em all to their maker and he’ll settle ’em down
    You can bet he’ll set ’em down
    ‘Cause justice is the one thing you should always find
    You got to saddle up your boys, you got to draw a hard line
    When the gun smoke settles we’ll sing a victory tune
    We’ll all meet back at the local saloon
    And we’ll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing
    Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses
    Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses
    You know justice is the one thing you should always find
    You got to saddle up your boys, you got to draw a hard line
    When the gun smoke settles we’ll sing a victory tune
    And we’ll all meet back at the local saloon
    And we’ll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing
    Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses
    Singing whiskey for my men, beer for my horses

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