Post Debate Debrief – It’s Your Opinion That Matters…

There’s a bazillion opinions on the results of the presidential debate last night. The last thing needed is another one. Because, in actuality, the only opinion that matters is yours.

clinton-trump-debateBefore last night’s debate my own opinion was that almost no-one is truly undecided in this election.

Yes, there might be a small number of people who are looking for an excuse to vote one way or the other. But as a general disposition everyone who will vote on November 8th already knew their candidate before the stage show last evening.

As I concluded my own watching of the debate, and the participants/moderator therein, my own thoughts were not about who won or lost – but rather how easy it is to judge the efforts; and yet how challenging it was to step into this breech.

The courage it takes for a non politician to step forward, knowing in advance what opposition will lay ahead. It seems to make much more sense now how candidate Donald Trump spoke about taking that deep breath before going down the escalator in June 2015.

I was reminded of Kambree Nelson’s moment in Costa Mesa California. And in a not-so-unusual way, her words in April speak forward into last night.

So I’ll just leave it at that….

… and remind myself of my responsibility to be deserving of that courage.

Our candidate is doing his part, his best.  What am I doing to deserve it?

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1,333 Responses to Post Debate Debrief – It’s Your Opinion That Matters…

  1. highdezertgator says:

    “By endurance we conquer” Ernest Shackleton (Explorer Antarctica Endurance survival)

    Trump is our “Endurance” Admiral sailing through the sea of NWO Globalism.
    He is taking us back to our home the “Shining city on a hill”.

    America! America!
    God shed his grace on thee

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    • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

      Amen!

      The other RINO/Uni-Party candidates always threw up their hands and stopped really trying when faced with one single thing Trump has had to endure.

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    • Wend says:

      That kind of infrared photo of the ship stuck in the ice is one of my favorite photos of all time, Ghostly and beautiful.

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    • Charlie says:

      Business man has given marching orders. Hang ISIS, hang 30 year political insider, hang refugees/illegals and hang her intentional email server around her neck!
      Simple, clear with laser focus. Keep up mates he’s playing chess.
      He’s setting the table, he’s the outsider : )

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    • shallbe4 says:

      There is nobody like Donald Trump. He is a multi faceted personality. He can be funny, serious, passionate, kind and cranky. He loves people and they love him in return. The man is a winner and has more energy than any man half his age. I think his supporters believe that he will work 24/7 to solve our problems and Make America Great Again.

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      • Juzjon says:

        And you’ll never see him take a knee for the National Anthem nor hold his fist in the air. His profound respect for America and his patriotism makes me…. well, just proud to be on this train!

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    • Esperanza says:

      And remember, Shackleton brought all his guys back….

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  2. Reality Wins says:

    From Hot Gas: Did Hillary get the debate questions a week ago?

    Earlier last week an NBC intern was seen hand delivering a package to Clinton’s campaign headquarters, according to sources. The package was not given to secretarial staff, as would normally happen, but the intern was instead ushered into the personal office of Clinton campaign manager Robert Mook. Members of the Clinton press corps from several media organizations were in attendance at the time, and a reporter from Fox News recognized the intern, but said he was initially confused because THE NBC INTERN WAS DRESSED LIKE A FED EX EMPLOYEE. (caps mine)

    The reporter from Fox questioned campaign staff about the intern, but campaign staff at first claimed ignorance and then claimed that it was just a Fed Ex employee who had already left. No reporters present who had seen the intern dressed as a Fed Ex employee go into Mook’s office saw him leave by the same front entrance. The Fox reporter who recognized the intern also immediately looked o utside of the campaign headquarters and noted that there were no Fed Ex vehicles parked outside.

    https://www.hotgas.net/2016/09/breaking-hillary-get-debate-questions-week-ago/

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  3. Scarlet Gold says:

    Hillary was smooth, polished, articulate, and unspecific – attributes we have come to expect of a long-time professional politician.

    Trump appeared nervous at times, but he was direct and detailed – exactly the attributes we would expect of a non-professional outsider running out of concern for his country.

    Hillary won on style, but she picked the wrong year to show slick political professionalism.
    Barring massive vote fraud, she is finished.

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    • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

      So Hillary was Slick as Sick Ex-Lax is what you are saying………….

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    • georgiafl says:

      Hillary was as slick and slippery as a corrupt lawyer politician.

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      • ShirleyM49 says:

        Talk about being slick. I was just watching a clip on Gateway Pundit and it appears Hillary was giving signals to Holt to interrupt Trump so she can get her pre-planned points across. She would surrepticiously put her hand to her face to signal Holt. Is there nothing this bitch will not do to gain an upper hand? She needs to be dismantled at the next debate.

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    • I cannot agree on that smooth and polished articulate meme, her one eye wasn’t in sync with her other eye the entire time and it just made her look CRAZY. That and the fact that she is obese and looked like she was hopped up on some kind of drug(s). I felt the {{creep}} factor oozing from her and she looked high and euphoric without cause at times. I think we should give Trump a medal for not reaching over and punching her right in the throat. He has nerves of STEEL!

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    • Jenny R. says:

      You can’t be smooth when you’ve got a Joker smile. Hillary probably should have laid off so much Botox; her “natural” smile is pretty fake anyway — that just made it worse.
      She won because her responses appeared more polished, but she gave off a sick, creepy vibe (guess what most folks will remember? yeah, not her policy positions but the “whooo” moment).

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    • shallbe4 says:

      To me Hillary seemed Arrogant and Bored everytime it was Trump’s turn to speak. She is very last century and still speaks as though the most important issue is Breaking the Glass Ceiling. Her demeanor is that of a School Marm and seems to pause after every word as though we Americans are not familiar with the English language. If God Forbid she ever got into The Oval Office she would make Richard Nixon seem like a breath of fresh air.

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  4. Sherlock says:

    Keep your eye on this one folks: Media plans their tactics for debate number two. Mischief afoot.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/in-debate-two-the-questions-are-on-the-ballot/501791/

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    • TrustyHaste says:

      Beware, if you submit a question, they will have your email address and possibly your physical location. I would stay away from this demonic thing.

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      • Sherlock says:

        I’m not worried about that. I’m worried about the fact they will undoubtedly cherry pick questions to try and ding Trump, and then have plausible deniability: “We just gave the public what they asked for, honest. No, we won’t show you the list of all questions, the rankings, where they came from, you’ll just have to trust us.”

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        • Jenny R. says:

          Frame your questions is such a way that any answer can an be easily supported or rebutted given knowledge of the topic and ability to argue a point.
          That way both sides will have to actually work at it.
          That’s the way debates are supposed to work.

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      • Eric Kennedy says:

        They’ve already got more when you simply vote.

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    • Sparky5253 says:

      What a joke. The questions will probably be written by the debate mods and passed off as coming from voters. These debates are all rigged to try to destroy Trump.

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    • Sara in NC says:

      Okay … I really need someone to help me out with this: WHY does the RNC approve these biased moderators??!! Why don’t we have any that are “biased” towards Trump?? I just don’t get this.

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      • I’m only trying to theorize Sara, but the RNC and Mr. Trump both want whatever unusually large audiences they can access, to promote their ideas and get their message out as broadly as possible. You can hate the MSM all day long, but many millions still rely primarily on ordinary TV networks for their news and politics. The debate commission and the two campaigns therefore agreed to accept moderators from NBC, ABC, CNN and Fox News, all of whom have large viewership.

        Debates feature memorable moments and “zingers”, but rarely change a lot of votes.

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      • carac100 says:

        The RNC routinely sides with the Democrats. They’re the globalist-supporting establishment. Trump is the nationalist outsider who is the ant at their picnic. They undermine him every chance they get.

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    • shallbe4 says:

      When they try to sandbag Trump and he is asked a rude question. Deal with it quickly and then talk about one of Hillary’s myriad of scandals.

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  5. ASpade says:

    Ground report about debate. Wife went to Dentist’s office with daughter for cleaning and she overheard Dentist and assistant talking about the debate. Assistant hadn’t seen the debate, both were clearly for Hillary, but dentist said, “He wasn’t that bad. Still voting for HIllary, but he wasn’t that bad.”

    This is in NY.

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    • Arjun says:

      What did Trump supporters expect him to do? Morph into a lion and devour Hillary on stage? And why does anyone think he did bad? Has anyone seen the online polls of people, real people, voting Donald into stratospheric leads? Mind you, Hillary supporters, if they existed, could have made online polls at least competitive. But nope, not even close.

      Hillary supporters exist in majority, behind TV cameras, in editorial rooms and in Hollywood. But they all have one vote each and they don’t come even close to matching the numbers of the populace that will be voting Trump in November.

      The elites (TPTB) screwed up the last 15 years by putting extremely incompetent puppets, think GW, BHO & HRC, in positions of power. That cascaded into incompetency, weakness, & corruption seeping all the way down to lower levels of government driving US down the path of third world status.

      TPTB have to right the wrongs of the past and Trump is the person to do it. I believe they will see the light, else the people will make will it happen.

      End rant. -:)

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    • Wend says:

      My dentists are a father-son team and they are all in for Trump. I’m not sure I’d let anyone for that witch anywhere near my teeth, but that’s just me. My previous dentist was a Larry David liberal and he was terrific.

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    • Jenny R. says:

      Heard similar from my workplace: they thought he did pretty good until the end; and these are flaming hardcore Hillary supporters.
      I think he pulled off what he needed to.

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  6. Trump always says he “hates critics.”

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  7. Bull Durham says:

    Endurance: Fox and Friends, then Florida. Jeff Sessions said they had five stops today/tonight.

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  8. severance23 says:

    Just watched the debate on youtube – live it would’ve been 2:00 to 3:30 am over here in the UK and I need my sleep – and I’m kind of torn. Part of me wanted Trump to eviserate her, but the greater part is pleased that he appeared Presidential to those not already on the train. But I thought the debate, if you can call it that, had three topics – America’s Direction, Achieving Prosperity and Securing America – so where does the birther question relate to any of those three? Or Trump’s tax returns?. I get the feeling that Hillary, along with the media, have used all of their ammo, while Trump still has plenty to use – if he gets the chance to use it.

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    • Junebug says:

      You are exactly right. None of those questions related to the topics that were supposed to be covered. Same with the last question about why Trump said Hillary doesn’t look presidential. Who cares! It was an obvious gift to Hillary so she could play the woman card and say Trump bashes women. No other reason for asking that question.

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    • Kaco says:

      Your are right, and even with Holt trying to get Trump back on track about the birther, (paraphrase) “the topic is racial relations”.

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  9. JoD says:

    Need your help.
    Could someone please help me understand,
    why an earpiece at a debate is not cheating?
    Info wars has a screenshot of HER bending over.
    There is NO doubt that she is wearing a backpack remote.
    You can easily see the battery pack at HER waist and the wire leads
    to the earpiece. I am 100% certain.
    Why isn’t this yuge?
    Think of it. Someone is off camera feeding her info!
    The miserable bitch can’t do anything w/o cheating!

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  10. Co Gal says:

    Last night I wanted Trump to come out attacking more. After reading all the comments and listening to talk shows today I think he did the right thing just staying all and holding his temper. I wonder how Hillary’s lengthy and mean personal attack is going to work for her.

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    • Shadrach says:

      I think poorly. I heard outtakes from her rally (?) on the radio today. She can’t keep that patronizing sorta smug tone out of her voice, thankfully. If you didn’t understand English, you’d think “what a nasty woman, I don’t like her.” That tone will not help her at all…..you just can’t help feeling that tone is directed at you.

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      • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

        Hillary is one of the original Mean Girls.
        She would throw an anvil to a drowning woman.

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      • Guyver1 says:

        Exactly.
        That smug, arrogant, condescending, dismissive attitude reminds people of every (insert choice word here) they have ever dealt with.
        This is what she is. That is why they were keeping her hidden under her rock, with very, very limited campaign appearances.
        They knew her attitude is seen as a plus by the proggies because they think and act just like her- but they also knew that normal people would be disgusted and repulsed by it.
        But they could not keep her hidden forever.
        The general public got their first taste of it with the ‘Deplorables’ speech.
        It backfired so badly that they had to shove her back under her rock to hide her.
        But they had to bring her out for the debate. They could not avoid that.
        And the vast majority of people were disgusted and repulsed by what they saw- the real Hitlary, not the false image fabricated by the media.
        In the end, it will not be her lies, corruption, or even her failed ideology that will bring her down.
        It will be her ‘I can do whatever I want and none of you lowly, little things can stop me’ arrogance that will do her in.
        Us ‘little things’ will stop her on Nov. 8th.
        And kick her arrogant butt from one side of the country to the other in the process.

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  11. Somebody says:

    Heads up Treepers, apparently they are going to take questions submitted and then voted on at the next debate http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/in-debate-two-the-questions-are-on-the-ballot/501791/

    Sorry to link to the Atlantic, but within that article is a link to where to post questions and vote
    https://presidentialopenquestions.com/

    Sundance this probably needs its own thread

    Treepers, please get the word out and also help me get word to Sundance.

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    • Sherlock says:

      See above, already posted, but I agree it may be deserving of a thread of its own. May also be time for some of those online petitions demanding more fair treatment from the moderators (who will be even worse this time out, given their track record). Petitions certainly will not change their behavior, but can focus attention on their ploys.

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    • Sara in NC says:

      So this time the biased moderators will ‘pick’ the questions that are hardest on Donald and easiest on Hillary. This is ridiculous.

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      • Guyver1 says:

        It is.
        They will ‘pick’ no questions that could possibly make Hitlary look bad.
        Those will go into the ’round file’.
        If they do take one or two of those to try to look evenhanded, they will feed them beforehand to the Clinton campaign so she can prepare a defense.
        However, that will backfire. Most people are now aware of the raging media bias (Mr. Trump flushed it out into the open where everyone can see it now- another thing we can thank him for).
        It will make people more determined to tear the witch and her media acolytes down.

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  12. NYGuy54 says:

    Reagan blew the first debate against Mondale in 1984. He won. Obama did the same thing. Trump will still win this thing.

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    • Shadrach says:

      Trump didn’t blow it, he just didn’t eviscerate her like we’d all like. I’m not sure eviscerating her is the right move anyway….even if I’d pay money to see it.

      If Hillary eviscerated Trump would it make you more likely to vote for her? It wouldn’t me…it might make me less likely to vote for him, but it wouldn’t make me more likely to vote for her.

      Trump needs to make the audience like him. Nothing else matters. Reagan blew out Mondale by laughing at himself, not by being a policy wonk or by eviscerating anyone. Something to think about….

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    • I don’t know how much of an impact this debate will have, but it’s worth noting that in the case of Reagan and Obama (and George W. Bush in 2004) these were incumbents who were leading in the polls going into the first debate. So they had enough of a cushion that they could have a bad night and still be in the race. Trump has been closing the gap but he is still behind in crucial swing states and a bad performance at a debate watched by a record audience does not bode well. Again, I really don’t know how much of an effect this will have but it can’t help Trump it can either have no effect or give Clinton a bit of a boost.

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      • Guyver1 says:

        The ‘polls’…pffft.
        Yeah, right, like the Clinton News Network ‘poll’ where the sample was 41%Dim and only 26% Rep.
        The ‘polls’… bwaaahahahaha!!!
        Same ‘polls’ that said he had ‘reached his ceiling’.
        Same ‘polls’ that said he had no support and would lose the primary.
        Same ‘polls’ that say it is ‘close’ in Florida (It is not. I live in Florida. Florida has been solidly in the Trump column from day one. You can take that to the bank.).
        The ‘polls’… pffft!

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  13. Concerned says:

    Best looking front row ever:

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  14. Jimmy Jack says:

    To your belief that there aren’t any undecideds at this point I have the results of the latest Bravo WWHL poll. When asked if the debate changed people’s minds on who they’d vote for 96% No, 4% yes.

    Since poor Andy Cohen is so shocked by it I expect another Trump vs. Hillary poll shortly.

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    • Wendeyzee says:

      Can anyone explain to me why he sort of agreed with Hellary about taking guns away from anyone on the no fly list, I was really disappointed about that. My husband is on one for some unknown reason, he was career military 25 yrs and with a security clearance, he has been trying to get off the list for years now.

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  15. SharonKinDC says:

    You can now vote once per day. Crooked’s people have been active the past 24 hours. Please put this on your daily ‘to do’ list. Thanks!
    https://worldwide.vote/hillary-vs-trump/#/results/day

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    • severance23 says:

      That was at nearly 150K earlier on, now it’s just over 60K? Is nothing free from ‘massaging’ these days?

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      • SharonKinDC says:

        Click the bar to show the total unique voters, v. the 24 hour voters. The map turns red and far more voters. IOW, Hillary’s pals have infested this poll w/i the past 24 hours.

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        • severance23 says:

          If they have,it’s had little effect. Hillary now only has 7 countries voting for her, she’s even lost Iran. Luxembourg and Ukraine have both turned to Trump as well. I know it’s only a bit of fun, but it’s interesting to see the level of support from our supposed enemies Russia and China – both in the high 80s.

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  16. NJF says:

    Despite MSM talking points, the overwhelming consensus seems to be, “Trump won”.

    The Nuclear Option: Trump Was Very Good – And Will Be Even Better – Breitbart

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/27/nuclear-option-trump-good-will-even-better/

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  17. jupitercomm says:

    Sundance’s OP for this thread poses some questions & this is one thing that pops out: “Before last night’s debate my own opinion was that almost no-one is truly undecided in this election.”

    I didn’t quite agree w/ this frame at first when SD said it before the debate, but after sleeping on it (as my grandpa would say), it was the right one. My read of “collective water cooler talk” among Trump supporters & conservative personalities on Twitter is that there were too many expectations & too much tendency to play armchair campaign manager. Part of that is useful for maintaining hype & engagement, but there’s a huge downside, too.

    Now you have people repeating the analysis that Trump missed opportunities, or so-and-so wished Trump would’ve done xyz… To be clear, I don’t agree or disagree with these sentiments b/c I don’t think the motivation is legitimate. As philosopher Harry Frankfurt said, an overabundance of BS is inevitable in a society where people feel socially pressured to give opinions regardless of how well informed they are.

    Why is this a downside? It tricks people into psyoping themselves when they believe their own BS. The MSM & those above them know this, they encourage it. It’s like putting out red-herring conspiracy theories so that anxious people obsess over those & miss actual conspiracies unfolding.

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    • Katherine McCoun says:

      Believe it or not there really are some people out there who wait for the debates to decide although I do suspect that these people are already leaning toward one or the other

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      • TrumpIllinois2016 says:

        If these people exist, they are so unengaged in the process that they probably won’t vote. Probably don’t even know the date that the election will be held.

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  18. Katherine McCoun says:

    About the debate: So Hillary says that Mr. Trump only believes in equal if the women preform equally well. Isn’t that appropriate? Equal pay for equal work is the whole point so if someone is doing sub par work then oughtn’t they pay less for the sub par work? At least this is what I thought. When she says as a criticism then what is her position? That women should receive equal pay for sub par work or even if they can’t do the work? I thought equality meant that men and women were to be judged on performance, be judged blindly on the subject of sex but judged on ability and performance. Very confused

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    • Concerned says:

      I’m in total agreement with you. I’m female, too. Equal pay for equal work and that means same degree of difficulty and same level of quality.

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      • Shadrach says:

        Female, agree. We can’t be treated equally if we demand special treatment. What is so hard to understand about that? One or the other, Hillary. Not both.

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      • VegasGuy says:

        ” Equal pay for equal work and that means same degree of difficulty and same level of quality.”

        I think you are edging towards equal pay for equal ability….That is the actual determining factor. Hillary spouting equal pay for equal work is far too black & white for practical purposes. Sure, it sounds good to the average worker that has experienced self perceived inequality in pay because “they know someone working with them that makes more doing the same job….” What they don’t acknowledge is the degree of proficiency when comparing themselves to their peer.

        But that is the nature of the beast. no female (or male) is going to say …That guy (or gal) is making more than I do because they do the job better than I do. Self reflection is easy when looking at the reward & ignoring the effort put forth.

        So the argument becomes a political talking point that in reality can never be accomplished. Why? Because we are human & all of us have varying talents that can be employed, regardless of the task at hand. The closest Hillary can come to that is “minimum wage” But even there, some will eventually be making more than others in the same position, just by longevity in the position..

        But, hey…..it sure sounds good, doesn’t it?

        The only true, & completely “equal” ability is a manufacturing plant utilizing robotic production for specific output quotas. Each robot is identical to the next..But, alas…. you don’t “Hire” those….You “Buy” those.

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        • Yippeekiyay says:

          Well said. It is even harder in today’s workplace where we have to work with generations of younger people who have been taught a whole different meaning of the word equality. With all of the new laws that are being forced on businesses today, it’s no wonder that we can no longer produce what we once did when people still had a work ethic.

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    • Prothonotary Warbler says:

      Exactly correct!

      What Hillary is advocating is for a female employee to earn as much as the best-paid male employees for doing less work, and less “important” work, at that.

      She’s saying, for example, that a female cashier at a department store should make as much money as the male manager, even though he’s been there longer, has more responsibilities, and puts in twice as many hours a week. Also, even though he’ll be fired if the store as a whole underperforms expectations, while she’ll only be fired if she personally underperforms her own individual job expectations.

      That’s Hillary’s definition of equal pay for women, even though she herself pays her own female employees less than she pays her male employees on average.

      There are a lot of women where I work who make, like, twenty or thirty times as much money as I do. I have zero problems with this, because I didn’t spend ten years in an expensive college to learn to do my job, I don’t have to continue taking expensive classes just to maintain the required certification to do my job, and I work forty hours a week, period. Those women absolutely deserve to be paid much more than I am!

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  19. NoOneButTrump says:

    Thank you, Sundance, for this stark reminder. Donald Trump was on that stage last night for me. He stood there for 90 minutes of political water boarding for me. In return, I can offer him three things: some of my hard earned money, my vote, and refraining from being an armchair presidential candidate.

    In case you’re wondering why I’m not listing volunteering, it’s because federal law prohibits me from doing so. Thank you to all who have the freedom to volunteer and do so. Hats off to you.

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  20. sassymemphisbelle says:

    this is an interesting take on the debate from a Czech Reddit user:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtXbO4kUAAElpiS.jpg:large

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    • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

      Sassy, that person’s analysis is Spot On – 100% accurate in my opinion.
      BTW did Gennifer Flowers attend last night?

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      • sassymemphisbelle says:

        thank you for posting the actual image, i haven’t got that method down yet 🙂
        i don’t know if GF was there or not. i began watching, starting scaring my dogs with my screaming at the tv, so i listened only online and checked in here and on twitter.

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      • Guyver1 says:

        Trump is using strategies right out of ‘The Art of War’, by Sun Tzu. Required reading at every single military academy on the planet.
        I know Trump has read it- he attended the New York Military Academy from age 13 until graduation. The title of his book, ‘The Art of the Deal’, is another pretty good hint.
        Flexibility. Deception (such as feigning weakness in order to maneuver an opponent into a trap).
        One of the tactics is to let the enemy attack first. The enemy will attack you in the same way that he believes would be most effective against him- that is human nature.
        By letting the enemy attack you first, you trick him into showing you what his weaknesses are.
        And then you strike at those weaknesses and obliterate him.
        Don’t worry, people, Trump’s got this. He laid out a really delicious trap, and Hitlary and the MSM walked right into it.
        The last debate, the one people will remember most because it will be the one closest to the election, that is when he will strike.
        It will be epic.

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  21. Sandra-VA says:

    One thing I noticed about the lecterns… Mr. Trump’s microphone was SHORTER than Hillary’s. If you look hers is bent at the top and directed to her face, Mr. Trump’s is too short to direct towards his face and be positioned correctly – he had to constantly lean towards it, constantly moving it.

    I have a feeling that the wrong microphone was put on the taller lectern…

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  22. janc1955 says:

    Trump is out of his element on a debate stage, as anyone with his background, experience, and skills would be. Seems to me presidential debates are a creation of the political class, not the doer class, and are meant to showcase the usual words-words-words-and more words that for decades have been virtually meaningless, completely disconnected from action.

    Perhaps once upon a time these debates were a useful vehicle for voters, but these days, they’re dog and pony shows put on by the left wing media to showcase the left wing candidate while simultaneously trying to harm the R candidate. I’m sick to death of politicians attempting to charm and convince me with their words. I’m ready for a POTUS who’s an America-first DOER. I honestly couldn’t care less whether he can “perform” on a debate stage. I’ve seen enough of smooth operators on debate stages.

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    • Miss America says:

      Debates are not the outcome of the “political class” per se; it has more to do with so many lawyers becoming politicians. Trial attorneys must have the gift of gab. My son has this gift….he can talk and schmooze and argue and debate for hours, or give a speech and not get nervous…or perform on stage. (OTOH he is dyslexic and can’t spell anything.)

      As comfortable as Mr. Trump has gotten
      giving speeches in front of crowds, he is not naturally comfortable on a debate stage. It is not, alas, among his many talents. But that’s OK with me….I’m voting for POTUS, not Debate Captain.

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      • janc1955 says:

        Great point that I neglected to mention. I should have said presidential debates are a creation of the lawyer-political class, where talking is king, and doing is … meh.

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  23. Sandra-VA says:

    I did not watch the debate because I knew what was going to happen… and instead I read all the comments by Treepers 😀

    Personally, I don’t think debates do any good in advancing positions/agendas of political candidates. All you have to do is watch the rallies, watch their policy speeches… that should be enough to contrast and compare. Having to endure the bias of so called moderators is just not something I feel is of any use.

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  24. Keln says:

    My Twitter thoughts about the debate:

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    • Concerned says:

      Hillary’s economic plan is apparently to put as many people out of work as possible and make the few who are left working (and not corrupt enough to be funded by “foundations”) support all the rest.

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  25. Merle Marks says:

    My take…after watching Fox interview, I amazed that President Trump doesn’t bitch and moan and whine about obstacles…it is part of the game. He is even smarter than I have credited him for. He doesn’t get down…he is not taking it personally…he doesn’t “hate” Hillary like many of us here do…he doesn’t cry about Lester…he says ‘Oh, geez…he was tough, he was tough”…like facing Nolan Ryan fast balls as a batter…he doesn’t take it personally!!!! He doesn’t get emotional, because that interferes with planning and strategy. There isn’t a person on this webpage who hasn’t been totally blown away by Trump’s efforts, yet many say that he missed opportunities. Maybe…but let him continue to amaze. We are ALL worried about this country being under Hillary’s control..I get it. But if Trump were to lose, it won’t be because he should have said this or that in a debate and didn’t capitalize on it. It will be because too many people in this country didn’t care enough to protect our liberty…too many closed their eyes to the evil stealing America right out from under them and too many stood by and cheered as the election was stolen. Hillary Clinton isn’t the problem, people. 50% of this country is the problem. Hillary is the weed that grows in the untended garden. The problem isn’t the weed. It is the disinterested gardener. TRUMP/Pence 2016

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  26. Keln says:

    Oh, by the way, I polled my two sons a few minutes ago. They got to stay up late and watch the debate last night, without parents around (I was in my study watching it and commenting here, wife was at the gym watching while working out).

    The oldest one is not really into politics. He likes Trump, but he’s not really a fanatic or anything. He said the debate was “great”. He said Trump clearly won. I asked him why he thought that. He said he made some great points and Hillary just looked fake (and old lol). I asked what his favorite point was, and he said it was when Trump offered to release his tax returns in exchange for Hillary’s emails.

    I then went upstairs and asked my youngest boy. At the ripe old age of 12, he is very much into politics and a Yuuge Trump supporter. Yes, he actually understands what is going on, and I didn’t coach him.

    I asked him the same questions. He said Trump won “big league”. I asked why. He said because he made some great points and because he could tell Hillary was getting mad. I asked him what the best point Trump made was…he said the same thing as his brother, about the tax returns for emails.

    Considering they both said the same thing, I wonder how much that particular line from Trump might have stuck out with people.

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  27. Katherine McCoun says:

    Dailymail.com with a survey that conservatives must not know about because it is the Only poll I have seen in which Hillary comes this far out ahead. It is on the front page. Scroll about 1/2 way down
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

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  29. I didn’t know that when Candy Crowley left CNN that she had undergone a sex transition and moved to NBC !!! 😎

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  30. Tparty says:

    Sundance, my opinion is that Donald Trump has outperformed the polls this season and all those semi retired voters and exasperated Democrats are the reason. The monster vote is looming and they will not be swayed by rigged polls and corrupt debate shenanigans. The monster vote has developed it’s own gravitational force thus building mass and momentum. It shows up in online post debate polls much as you described earlier in September.

    Tparty

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  31. entagor says:

    During the debate Hillary made a weird move that went on too long. It was a bobble head-shoulder moment
    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/26/watch-hillary-clinton-shimmy-presidential-debate/

    Breitbart mentioned the MSM is editing the duration of the ‘shimmy’. Search engine now brings up a bunch of copy implying that Hillary is starting a new dance craze, it is going viral, etc.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/27/hillary-clinton-does-the-hillary-shimmy-during-debate—creates/

    This is damage control.

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    • Kaco says:

      Right, Hillary is the farthest from “hip” anyone could be. No, this won’t catch on, it’s fabricated B.S. trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.

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  32. NoeliCannoli says:

    THE CLINTON INFOMERCIAL. After having a day to reflect on the so-called debate last night, I kept thinking that the format seemed naggingly familiar. Finally I hit on the similarity: a cheesy television infomercial. I am talking about the ones in which the seller is hawking a product, and the producer uses the device of having an interviewer ask the precise questions that highlight the product. In the more elaborate infomercials, there can be comparisons to a competing product that is cast as inferior and ridiculous. Anyone who has watched late-night television knows what I am talking about. The more subtle ones try to appear to be a genuine program, and only the legally-mandated disclaimers reveal that it is a paid infomercial. In this analogy, Hillary is both the product and the huckster seller, and Lester Holt is the phony interviewer. Just like the classic infomercial, the interviewer’s questions are furnished by the seller with the singular goal of making the purchase of the product more compelling. Watching Hillary’s responses to the questions, it was very clear to me that they were all expected and familiar; the answers were spoken instantly and sounded distinctly memorized. One could argue that her team may have anticipated some of the questions for the debate prep, but what are the odds that they would anticipate all of them? Last night I assumed that the questions had been conceived by Lester Holt and leaked to Hillary’s handlers, but I now suspect the more insidious possibility that the questions originated with Hillary and were furnished to Holt, who dutifully delivered them. If this sounds farfetched, consider that after a Hillary team telephone conference with the major media, not less than 4 major newspapers had almost identical articles besmirching Mr. Trump’s honesty published the day prior to the debate. This is truly a battle and we must all proselytize and recruit our “army” to elect President Trump and Make America Great Again!

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  33. GREENMIRROR says:

    Speaking to Donald’s ability to “get things done”(and personally I’m no fan of anything that gets in the way of Liberty in America, but see a “temporary” exception in this case) what are the chances CHICAGO institutes “stop and frisk” before inauguration?

    Donald says I will sign pledge..everyone signs pledge. Donald says show birth certificate…birth certificate shown. Donald says a wall needs built…all candidates fall in behind him. Donald says gangs and bad people crossing the border criminally…flood of someone doing the killing/raping history comes to light. Donald says refugee program is dangerous…boom…pew..pew..pew.

    Yea I think Chicago will be on its way to being cleaned up before the NBA Bulls play the final game of the season. How about that James, Wade, Melo, Paul?

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  34. justfactsplz says:

    Sundance, I had to dry my eyes after reading your post before I could read the comments and leave this comment. I have been pondering your last sentence, “what am I doing to deserve it?”. It’s easy for me to answer what you have been doing. You have been doing painstaking research and educating your readership on the peaks and valleys of this election cycle. You provided the GOPe roadmap for all to see. You broke down polls and their meaning for us. You pointed out seedy campaign contributions on forms candidates submitted. You gave us tripwire alerts. You taught us about Cold Anger. And on and on and on. You have done so much to help our Lion fighter.

    The rest of us, what have we done? We have volunteered for the Trump campaign. We have donated to the Trump campaign. We have done battle on blogs and on twitter and facebook. We have become citizen journalists. We have talked Trump to friends, family, and neighbors.

    We are deserving of our great candidate because we are patriotic Americans and we have the same vision and love for our country as he does. And in return for our support, Trump loves us and fights for us. You see it’s a two way street, this deserving that you speak of. Thank you once again for all you do for us here at the Treehouse. WOLVERINES!

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  35. Timmy-the-Ute says:

    I have not said much about the first debate for I didn’t watch it. Got yo watch the old blood pressure. But I can say this much. All last week everyone was saying that unless Hillary collapsed on the stage the media would say she won, and even then she would get a sympathy praise. But it was also said the as long as Trump acted presidential and was said nothing that could be used against him in a ad he would win by default. Looks like Trump won clearly. I am not saying Trump should play safe, but this is exactly what he wanted to achieve in the first debate. All Trump needs is one line and he will be the winner in the debates. Just as Reagan said, “There you go again”, or Trump to Jeb!

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  36. Hillbilly4 says:

    After reviewing the many comments on The Debate I think Mr Savage comes closest to understanding what we saw. Hillary PLANNED her attack with the BEST team she could assemble. And, in many regards her ‘team’ won. Her ‘team’ out coached his ‘team’. While polls say he won, clearly she had the better ‘team’ plan.

    She cannot win on facts, she cannot win on physical strength (force of personality), she cannot win on her ‘resume’. BUT, her ‘team’ had prepared for a ‘psychological’ attack” and it was brilliant. Her ‘team’ beat Donald’s ‘team’, period. He fell into the trap. Simple. How it was done- the attack on his inherited wealth($14 million), and her constant referring to her hard-working father…as if his family was not hard working. Her attack on how little business people have suffered under Donald’s business practices, etc. They used Donald’s pride against him.

    Donald must assemble a better ‘team’ that approaches the next debate differently.

    He must learn to absorb the blows, and attack her on her pathetic performance. He came close, but did not deliver the knock-out blows that were there for the taking.
    He can deflect the Moderator by by simply answering, ever so briefly, the question/issue simply: Yes/NO, I agree/ I disagree, etc….then use the rest of the 2 minutes attacking her sorry ass. Sort of like what Reagan did: “there you go again”. His reply about his taxes and her emails was the best counter-punch of the night. You will notice NOT one question further on this scandal…the moderator would not go there at all.

    OF COURSE they will not bring up Benghazi,of course they will not bring up the EMAIL/SERVER scandal, of course they will not bring up Abortion (the creation of an international floating ship to sit just off a country’s open-sea 12 mile limit to offer free abortions…which is the only time in history where the Pope and Muslims agreed 100% to oppose the Clinton empire); of course they will not bring up her support for the Irag war, of course they will not bring up the sale of Uranium resources, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

    Donald, is fully capable of this kind of debate but his ‘team’ must prepare differently. Learn a bit of jiu jitsu tactics. He cannot fail on facts, history, or resume. But use her strength against her.
    What has she done for the inner cities? what has she done for flood victims, what has she done for victims of Illegal Immigrant’s violence? Why is she trying to ‘nation build’ in other countries and will not help Build our Nation? Where are the jobs she promised Upper State new York? If she cannot deliver jobs in New York..how can she hope to create jobs for the USA? She won’t and she can’t.

    Newt had the best summation of what we saw: a Presidential contender born when Donald did not attack her where he COULD have. He remained a gentleman, he refused to get down in the gutter with her….there is no need to, he is the better candidate, period.

    AND..never let the case of calling Americans ‘deplorable’ go…EVERY answer can have a reference to this speech of Hillary’s. ‘Well, for me and the basket of deplorables who are my heros, you know them by another name: American citizens …WE say this……”

    So the scorecard for now:
    Team Clinton: 1 Team Trump: 0
    Candidate Clinton: 0 Candidate Trump: 1

    God Bless Donald and these UNITED States.

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    • Her team did NOT win. Trump accomplished the 3 things he wanted to accomplish (see my post below). Hillary accomplished only 1 thing: that she is not dying and can make it through a 90 min debate (with 6 breaks that is) and that she could hide her illness and wrinkles and pull off looking “healthy.”

      If you or anyone thinks it’s about zingers and missed opportunities, THINK AGAIN. The absolute main thing that is blocking new voters and undecided voters from Trump is the caricature of who the MSM has created Trump to be in the media. You must know that until this debate he has been unable to show who he really is to those who’s only media diet they feed on is the MSM. They don’t see all the Trump rallies and read and know what we his supporters know about him.

      ONCE YOU SEE THAT THIS IS YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY TRUMP DID HOW HE DID AND HE WAS BRILLIANT AND SUCCESSFUL!

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  37. Thomas Berwick says:

    The “Missed Opportunities” Tactic

    My apologies if this conclusion has already been mentioned but it has been on my mind since listening to all the debate analysis.

    Knowing that Trump is a self-actualizing person with an IQ over 150, I have to conclude that his “missed opportunities” during the debate was a PLANNED TACTIC. Trump had to know that “missing an opportunity” would be discussed widely by both friend and foe. So, why appear less presidential by attacking when the media would INDIRECTLY do the attacking for him by elaborating on those “missed opportunities”.

    Sure enough, the media (mostly unfriendly) covered each “missed opportunity” in detail. The MSM thought they were hurting Trump by pointing out all of those “missed opportunities” when, in fact, they were hurting Hillary by exposing all of her negatives.

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  38. For all the second guessers and those who hate Hillary so much they envision pounding Hillary’s head into the ground vicariously through Donald Trump, who think the debate was some kind of zinger battle. THINK AGAIN!! IT WAS TRUMP’S CHANCE TO MAKE 3 THINGS CLEAR TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE who never got a chance to hear from Trump directly on via the MSM which they are attuned and of which continually skews who Trump and his policy is.

    WATCH & LEARN!!

    David Stockman says the debate wasn’t about who won what round or who won or didn’t win because Trump needed to do three things and he successfully did them, therefore it was a grand success for Trump.

    (Length 6:37 min)
    David Stockman says Trump had 3 main objectives to accomplish during the debate and he successfully accomplished all 3; and that Lester Holt was in the tank for Hillary Clinton.

    1) He needed to confound the caricature of him that’s been created by the the elite media that he’s some kind of bigoted ego maniacal rude wild man who’s too dangerous to be president. HE KNOCKED THAT OUT OF THE PARK. He showed that he’s calm, competent, courteous and he came across that he is totally able to be the president.

    2) He hit the nail on the head when he made clear that this election is a referendum on thirty years of status quo, failed wars, soaring debt and a failed economy; and that he was against the war in Iraq BEFORE the war; and how Hillary was for the war and represents the status quo and failed wars, soaring debt and failed economy. AND I THINK HE DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT.

    3) Trump clearly dialed in on the fact that the US economy is in bad trouble and it’s not this fantasy recovery and success story that Obama talks about, that the Fed and Wall Street wants you to believe, vs. how Hillary started off the debate saying isn’t it wonderful how much we got done and we have to do more of the same. THAT IS, TO USE A HARSH TERM: A LIE!

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