Whoa !! Federal Judge Orders Unredacted Release of Grand Jury Witness Testimony Including Names In Michael Brown Case…

Wow, just wow.  This judge is nuts!

Has he forgotten the example of Ty Da Shooter?  Has he forgotten Jeffrey Williams opening fire on Ferguson police?

According to the Associated Press a federal judge, U.S. District Judge E. Richard Webber, has ordered St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch’s office to release the full unredacted transcripts from the Grand Jury testimony in the Michael Brown shooting case against officer Darren Wilson.

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Specifically, Judge Webber is forcing McCulloch’s office to also release the names of the Grand Jury witnesses who gave testimony during the investigation.  The names will be given to Anthony Gray, a monumentally corrupt attorney who represents the family of Michael Brown.

Those who followed the Brown case closely will note there is every reason to believe those witnesses will be hunted down by the racial apparatus that is embedded inside the professional grievance activists.  They will not be safe:

snitches get stitches

 

“We now get the chance to have an unblemished look at who said what to whom and under what context,” Anthony Gray, the family’s attorney, told The Associated Press. “We consider this to be a huge development in the case — very significant and monumental in terms of discovery.” (link)

It should be noted and emphasized that in addition to the Grand Jury clearing Darren Wilson, the Eric Holder Department of Justice did not find any reason to justify any civil rights violations.  To the contrary, the DOJ final report cleared Officer Wilson and substantiated the entirety of the evidence provided to the Grand Jury.

The continuation of the grievances against McCullough’s office, by the Brown family in general, and Anthony Gray specifically, is a vindictive effort not only targeted toward a financial payday but to also send a message to the witnesses that supporting the rule of law will not be tolerated by the black grievance activists including the ultra-violent gang member and step-father, Louis Head.

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Those witness names along with their sealed testimony will reach the streets specifically because Anthony Gray will ensure it happens.  This is a very bad decision.  There will be blood on the hands of Judge E Richard Webber.

Full AP Article is Available HERE

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CTH Archives on Mike Brown CASE HERE

CTH Archives on Mike Brown Grand Jury Evidence HERE

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233 Responses to Whoa !! Federal Judge Orders Unredacted Release of Grand Jury Witness Testimony Including Names In Michael Brown Case…

  1. Howie says:

    I be surpizes there has be no sebbledent yet. This will not help the plain tiffs i beleebe.

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  2. JohnPaulJohnes says:

    Judge Webber, a one man judge, jury, and executioner.
    Signed death warrant for 12 individuals who participated in a system he is supposed to represent.

    A real live Herod, from the ‘Quick and the Dead”

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    • Kent says:

      There will likely be more than twelve….a few significant others will likely be taken out too….

      Liked by 3 people

      • DMi60ex says:

        When I read the transcripts there were about 8 who agreed with the Officer. there were about 45 total . There were the stories of 8 that were similar and 37 completely different unrelated and convoluted statements. I believed at the time that 38 different people got shot

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  3. golfmann says:

    Soros $$?

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  4. 2x4x8 says:

    anyone seen the Fast and Furious documents?

    Liked by 3 people

  5. Bart Manson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ says:

    Hopefully the witnesses arm up and send a message of their own when the BLM thugs show up.

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  6. Take a cue from the democrats at the IRS and stage an “unfortunate accident” with any and all pertinent hard drives, then plead the 5th and/or say you can’t recall what happened.

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  7. amjean says:

    I am not asking if they will, only if legally the US attorney
    general can override this decision. Or is there no recourse?

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  8. RJP says:

    This is all part of the plan to undermine justice. Bringing the hood into our judicial system – bootstrapping a future where jurors will be fearful to pass an honest, fair judgment on anybody but a white male (unless he is a liberal politician or one of the so-called elites)

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    • Dems B. Dcvrs says:

      Goes further than bringing the Hood in. They are sending message of don’t bother with Justice. Obama’s release of both Federal Prisoners and GIMTO Muslim Terrorists goes to that.

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  9. CountryClassVulgarian says:

    This is just absolutely sick. I am willing to bet this was sanctioned by the white house.

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  10. geoffb5 says:

    Zimmerman-Martin was about intimidating those who might be inclined to arm themselves for self defense. Make them consider the cost they might pay for doing so.

    Ferguson/Baltimore/NYC/San Jose, et al are about getting the cops to not go to the defense of or protect anyone from the predation of Democrat protected thugs, gangs, and mobs.

    This action is to intimidate witnesses into silence or that they should repeat whatever the local community organizer has decided is the “community” line. Omerta.

    The next breach will probably be the jury deliberations, both “Grand” and “Petite” so that that secrecy will be gone and juries too will have to toe the line that an organizer draws.

    All of these need repetition and wide publicity to be effective. The one against the cops has been most repeated so far. AFAIK.

    Using force and the threat of force to get people repeat a lie, a lie they and those in power know is a lie, is the way to condition them into complete submission to anything those wielding power fancy at the moment.

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  11. Katherine McCoun says:

    Can they become part of a wirptness protection program? If they were promise secrecy can they sue?

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  12. Linda Ruth says:

    We should be reminded that honorable judges actually do become targets for elimination if they won’t conform to the unConstitutional agenda of the government in power–Obama/DOJ/AG/DHS/IRS. Any judge who does conform gets rewarded and keeps his/her position. Actually making lawful decisions will put anyone at risk for being a living target. And don’t forget Robert McCulloch is targeted, now. “They” want him gone!

    Top US Federal Judge Assassinated After Threat To Obama Agenda
    Posted by EU Times on Jan 9th, 2011
    A Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the top US Federal Judge for the State of Arizona was assassinated barely 72-hours after he made a critical ruling against the Obama administrations plan to begin the confiscation of their citizen’s private retirement and banking accounts in order to stave off their nations imminent economic collapse, and after having the US Marshals protecting him removed.
    According to this SVR report, Federal Judge John McCarthy Roll was the Chief Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Arizona who this past Friday issued what is called a “preliminary ruling” in a case titled “United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al” [Case Number: 4:2010cv00703 Filed: November 30, 2010] wherein he stated he was preparing to rule against Obama’s power to seize American citizens money without clear and convincing evidence of a crime being committed.
    http://www.eutimes.net/2011/01/top-us-federal-judge-assassinated-after-threat-to-obama-agenda/

    Was Judge John Roll the actual target of the Giffords shooting?
    Monday, February 14, 2011 by: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer
    “Just days before being murdered, Judge Roll had issued a preliminary ruling with intent to rule against the case of ‘United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al’. The subject of the case involved giving the Obama Administration power to seize citizens’ assets regardless of whether or not it could be proven that they committed any sort of crimes. And Judge Roll had planned to declare it unconstitutional.”

    “Judge Roll’s unwavering commitment to the Constitution was a major roadblock for those trying to advance unconstitutional agendas. Few, if any, judges are as knowledgeable and principled as Roll was on constitutional issues. And from what is known of him, he could not be bought off by political lobbyists. In fact, many from both sides of the aisle were upset at his decisions because they did not always strictly align with any one political party. As a result, he received many death threats throughout his tenure as a judge. But when considering how significant his contributions were to both Arizonans and to Americans at large, why is his murder being left out of the headlines?”
    http://www.naturalnews.com/031326_Judge_John_Roll_Giffords.html

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    • Elizabeth Rider says:

      Instead they wanted us to think it was some target on Sarah Palin’s website, and somehow that dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks Gabby Giffords somehow posed a serious threat to her and conservatives.

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  13. VegasGuy says:

    White House involvement? This Judge was a Clinton nominee…Just saying….

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Richard_Webber

    Judge Webber was a federal judge to the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri. Webber was nominated by President Bill Clinton on August 10, 1995, to a seat vacated by Edward L. Filippine. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on December 22, 1995, and received his commission on December 26, 1995. He assumed senior status on June 30, 2009.

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  14. BobNoxious says:

    I cannot stress enough as a member of the MissouricBar how outrageous and unprecedented this decision is. I’m in shock. McCullough is partly to blame for opening this door in his misguided effort to appease the mob when he took the unprecedented step of releasing some GJ testimony. But this judge has just thrown out over 200 years of jurisprudence that says GJ proceedings are SECRET, period.

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    • VegasGuy says:

      Could be the work of this guy…..
      RONALD S. SULLIVAN JR.
      Clinical Professor of Law
      Director, Criminal Justice Institute

      http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2ln8j6x0u/missouri-eastern-district-court/brown-et-al-v-city-of-ferguson-missouri-et-al/

      Filed: 1/7/2016, Entered: None Docket Text ORDER: Motion for Leave to Appear Pro Hac Vice 36 is GRANTED. Ronald S. Sullivan, Jr. shall be admitted pro hac vice for the purpose of representing Plaintiffs in this matter. So Ordered by Judge E. Richard Webber on 1/7/16. (MAC) (Entered: 01/07/2016)

      This Prof. has been vocal on this case in the past….
      An LA Times article from Nov 2014.……GJ underway below…..

      http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-82099652/

      {SNIP}… “This was a strategic and problematic use of a grand jury to get the result he wanted,” said Ronald S. Sullivan Jr., director of the Harvard Criminal Justice Institute at Harvard University. “As a strategic move, it was smart; he got what he wanted without being seen as directly responsible for the result.”

      “Sullivan called the case “the most unusual marshaling of a grand jury’s resources I’ve seen in my 25 years as a lawyer and scholar.”

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      • oldiadguy says:

        Thanks for the info, that’s answers my question how Gray got the judge to agree to his request. I had dealings with Gray during my IAD days and found that Gray wasn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer. I agree that it was probably the work of Sullivan that got this unusual ruling.

        Take Care

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      • oldiadguy says:

        Take a look at Sullivan’s background and connections.

        “Sullivan was elected President of the Black Law Students Association at Harvard Law School and served as a general editor of the Harvard Black Letter Law Journal, now known as the Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Journal.”

        “Prior to joining the Harvard faculty, Sullivan worked with the D.C. law firms of Baach Robinson & Lewis and Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom,[1] where Sullivan quickly gained experience with high-profile cases, such as those involving President Clinton.”

        “He was recruited by then-Dean Elena Kagan to become part of the Harvard Law School faculty.”

        “Sullivan supported fellow Harvard Law School alumnus Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election where he chaired then-Senator Obama’s Criminal Justice Policy Group.[4] As a law student, Sullivan was mentored by fellow legal heavyweight and Obama supporter Charles Ogletree, and the two have remained close friends.”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_S._Sullivan_Jr.

        Looks like something is in the wind and it isn’t good.

        Take Care

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        • VegasGuy says:

          Ys, I agree…..something is in the wind for sure. Perhaps they will attempt to intimidate the witnessess & twist their testimoby in the Civil trial to place it in different context.

          This guy Sullivan appears to be full bore BGI in his endeavors. Here is just one such example……

          https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/10-29-13SullivanTestimony.pdf

          TESTIMONY OF RONALD S. SULLIVAN JR.
          PREPARED FOR THE
          COMMITTEE OF THE JUDICIARY
          SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE CONSTITUTION, CIVIL RIGHTS, AND HUMAN RIGHTS
          OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE
          October 29,2013

          Interesting read…..BTW, Sabrina Fulton was present with him.

          {SNIP} pg 11..“I am honored to share the dais with Sybrina Fulton, Trayvon Martin’s mother.”

          {SNIP}… “The Trayvon Martin matter is a case in point. The very existence of this law emboldened Mr. Zimmerman to disregard the command of the 911 dispatcher and follow Trayvon Martin, arrogating law enforcement —what should be a public function—to himself. This private law enforcement attitude, made possible and emboldened by Florida’s Stand Your Ground law, coupled with a permissive concealed carry law, was the “but for” cause of Trayvon Martin’s death. But for the fact that Zimmerman exited his vehicle that evening, Trayvon Martin would be alive today.”

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          • oldiadguy says:

            VegasGuy

            Yes, something is definitely going on here is St. Louis, exactly what the end game is, I haven’t been able to figure out. I miss the old CTH where fellow Treepers would join in the search for the truth. Now, Most folks seem content to make crazy claims against the judge, he’s crooked, he’s been bribed, he is an activist, he is following orders from Lynch etc. rather than search for the underlying truths. It is maddening!

            They need to remember that the prosecutor is the person who conducts the grand jury proceedings and it is the prosecutor’s responsibility to protect the activities of what transpires in the grand jury room. When McCullough released redacted grand jury transcripts in an effort to claim things down, he opened a door that Gray and Sullivan walked through.

            Since the grand jury transcripts were already public, I can’t see how Webber could have ruled any other way. Whether we like it or not, Gray has the right to depose the witnesses to the incident in order to prepare his case. The material I’ve seen that was requested is the same that I’ve seen requested in many other law suits, with the exception of the grand jury testimony. It is a mess.

            However, I don’t believe that the Michael Brown lawsuit is the main act in this on going drama. There has been a lot of prep work leading up to the recent court decision. The Post Dispatch has been preparing the battle space as it were with numerous articles concerning police misconduct, especially after Shahid brought up the Anthony Lamar Smith shooting several months ago. Since the officer, Jason Stockley has been charged with murder, more and more disturbing details about the shooting have been coming out, as well as some video that someone has been sitting on for over four years.

            From what I’ve read and heard about the Stockley/Smith case, it has the potential of being very bad and I believe that the effort to resurrect the Michael Brown case is an effort to inflame the public for the next act. I posted my thoughts about this in a previous comment and provided links to some of the articles. If you missed my comment and links, here it is.

            https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/06/whoa-federal-judge-orders-unredacted-release-of-grand-jury-witness-testimony-including-names-in-michael-brown-case/comment-page-1/#comment-2562300

            If you have the time and/or inclination to read through the articles I’ve linked’ I would be interested to see what your take is on the situation.

            Take Care

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            • VegasGuy says:

              Thanks for the update. I did go through all the links.

              Good info on those similar cases involving STLMPD. Interesting that Neil Bruntrager, who was Wilson’s attorney, is also Stockley’s attorney. I wonder if Bruntrager is representing Wilson in this Civil trial?

              Within all the articles you posted, the one aspect that caught my attention was this…

              http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-police-secret-settlements-total-million/article_c141859b-3766-5b3d-8b30-2b6dbf4aef26.html

              {SNIP}… “In my considerable experience, police departments do not settle and certainly don’t settle for a lot of money unless there is clear evidence of liability, clear evidence the shooting was unjustified,” said Jon Loevy, of the Chicago firm Loevy & Loevy. “Anything short of that and they decline to settle.”
              “I can tell you from experience, they don’t just cough up money routinely. They fight hard, they are reluctant to resolve cases and there is just not that kind of money lying around unless there is merit.”

              Yet, in other articles you quote, it does appear that many settlements were made without public disclosure.

              Also, these cases you quote involve many witnesses accounts with conflicting versions of the each other as well as differing from the officer versions. Similar to the Brown / Wilson case.

              But ultimately, in the Brown case, enough witness testimony tended to align with Wilson’s version of what occurred, and that was determined by both the local GJ and the DOJ.

              So, there are similarities, including the involvement by Anthony Shahid .
              I could see the Judge allowing the Wilson GJ testimony both for discovery and for the reasons you outline regarding plaintiff attorney need for contact info for depositions and the full testimony that was presented.

              The Civil suit was not going very well for Crump, et al…..
              Actually, several counts were dismissed back in July 2015.

              http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-police-missouri-idUSKCN0PO2GV20150714

              {SNIP}….The judge said two counts of the lawsuit can stand for now, but may fall later because Brown’s parents may not be able to make those claims for Brown, who was 18 years old and an adult when he was fatally shot, the newspaper said.

              {SNIP}…Among the four counts that were dismissed, two were not in dispute, U.S. District Judge E. Richard Webber said, as they addressed claims related to state civil rights, the Post-Dispatch reported.

              {SNIP}….Two other counts related to claims against former Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson and former Police Officer Darren Wilson were also dismissed after Webber deemed them “redundant,” the Post-Dispatch said.

              Here is another article regarding that….

              http://fox2now.com/2015/07/14/judge-narrows-mike-brown-familys-lawsuit-against-ferguson/

              {SNIP}….U.S. District Judge E. Richard Webber on Tuesday dismissed four of the seven counts from the suit filed in April.
              He told lawyers for Michael Brown Sr. and Lesley McSpadden that they must make a more persuasive claim for damages on behalf of their late adult child.

              I suspect that Sullivan, with his entry into the case, has developed a different strategy and is pursuing past activity of the SLMPD in general with regard to officer involved shootings, witness inconsistencies, & the subsequent undisclosed settlements.

              Actual presentation of a successful case by Crump, et al, is highly unlikely. Crump’s MO is file a suit & coerce “go away “ money, then move on to the next “victim”.

              So, as you suspect, there may be a connection to these cases & the players.

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              • VegasGuy says:

                Sorry…I left out one important aspect that could be the key to a connection of the cases…
                This may be the “smoking gun” that Sullivan is hoping to uncover….The undisclosed settlements in other SLMPD cases….

                http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-federal-judge-dismisses-several-counts-of-brown-family/article_92b8118d-584e-5ce2-9ebb-41481fec8468.html

                {SNIP}…. Webber said that he would allow the Brown family lawyers time to explore whether the existence of a city insurance policy means that Ferguson cannot claim “sovereign immunity” against another part of the lawsuit.

                Maybe the “secret settlements” aspect will bolster that claim that Ferguson cannot claim sovereign immunity”? But they will have to show that SLMPD has jurisdictional supervision over the FPD. If they can prevail on that, they might see some sort of a payday….

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                • oldiadguy says:

                  Thanks for the quick reply. I’m off to work and I will be replying more in some detail when I return this evening. Since the replies columns are getting rather narrow, I will be posting at the end of the thread.

                  Take Care

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    • Linda Ruth says:

      From a lawyers perspective. does this portend that practicing law according to the Constitution and standardized jurisprudence will no longer be acceptable in Missouri? If what this judge is demanding is not challenged as illegal, what laws cannot be ignored from now on in Missouri and be subjected to any judge’s personal interpretation? Thus far, Obama and his AGs in the DOJ have been doing just that federally, even overstepping the State, as in Ferguson. Weak State Governor for not standing his own ground, it seems. Just my opinion with no knowledge of law. 🙂

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    • Maybe he is sending a signal to the jury in Baltimore that the jury in the disgusting Freddie Gray trial better come up with guilty pleas, as Mosby’s case is falling apart and she is highly embarrassed.

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  15. TrumpFanGirl says:

    While we are painting a target on folks, why not release the GJ jurists names!

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  16. thehozer99 says:

    This could be the catalyst that gives us Martial Law.

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  17. Why doesn’t Darren Wilson sue the family of Michael Brown??????????

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  18. WTH? They are tearing it all down. All of it and people just allow it. How would one even begin to fight against this?

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    • asawasa says:

      the same way people have always fought against tyranny. “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” – JFK

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  19. Millwright says:

    Seems the progressives are “staking out” some new ground apparently discontented with the success of intimidation tactics for those that oppose them. We all know the black thug meme “Snitches Get Stitches”, but just in case some in “de hood” haven’t got the message, here’s how its gonna go down. IOW this “judicial decision” is pure intimidation and threat.

    It may be a lot of folks from the mainstream political herd are taking every opportunity to “stake out their turf” by whatever means necessary.

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  20. robertnotsowise says:

    how quickly we forget about the murder of DeAndre Joshua – who backed up Officer Wilsons’ claims

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  21. Backspin says:

    Don’t worry , Faux and Rush and their kind will be all over this …………sometime next year.

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  22. tonystake660 says:

    If ever a Judge deserved to be lynched, this is the guy. Someone get a rope.

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  23. joshua says:

    Damn….we shoulda picked our OWN cotton…..

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  24. oldiadguy says:

    VegasGuy

    The SLMPD is the police department for the City of St. Louis, which is a county within itself and at the time of the shooting was under state control. Ferguson PD is in St. Louis County, which has the St. Louis County Police Department, SLCPD, to police the unincorporated areas and those municipalities that have a contract with the SLCPD for police services. There is no connection between the Ferguson PD and the SLMPD.

    Like you, I don’t see the Michael Brown suit going anywhere fast, it is a loser. That is why I believe the MB suit is a sideshow. It is being used to re-engage those who were out in the streets during the riots for another purpose. My guess is it is going to be used for political purposes.

    You are correct relative to Jon Loevy’s statement that police agencies settle law suits, sometimes for vast sums to have the case closed and sealed. During the discovery phase, the plaintiff gets just about everything and often times find details not publicly known that could cause the public to question the integrity of their police agency. The higher the settlement, normally the more damming the information.

    The case that concerns me is the Stockley/Smith shooting. This case has been simmering for a long time. Stockley was charged with murder after Anthony Shahid started to press the case again. There were a lot of details in that case that were not made public at the time of the incident or after the civil case was settled for $900,000 dollars. Years after the incident information and videos are just now coming to light.

    Something is not right here. It is an election year when Shahid brings this case back into the spotlight and the prosecutor develops new evidence and issues a murder charge against the officer. Where was that evidence 4 1/2 years ago? There were possibly two eye witnesses to the shooting who videoed the aftermath and they apparently weren’t interviewed? You have Sullivan join the MB civil case and he has direct ties to Clinton and the Obama administration and indirectly to Shahid. However, Shahid has a relationship with Anthony Gray that goes back to the mid 2000’s.

    Something is just not right here and I believe there is much more to come, just what I haven’t figured out just yet. However, whatever it is, you can bet that Shahid will be involved.

    By the way, Brother Shahid appears to be a follower of the CTH as I found some of the photos created by the CTH folks relative to the MB case on Shahid’s twitter page.

    https://twitter.com/anthonyshahid1

    I don’t know how to link a specific twitter posting, but if you page through his postings to the following dates you will find the photos.

    2-15-15
    2-12-15
    2-05-15
    2-04-15

    The photos that Shahid used on his twitter postings can be found in this CTH article.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/29/the-instigator-how-one-saint-louis-man-originated-the-hands-up-dont-shoot-mike-brown-controversy-and-created-the-eye-witness-testimonials/

    Here are some of my favorite Twitter quotes from Shahid.

    “I aint mad at you white folks, I know y’all can’t help yourself. Its written in your DNA as DEVILS.”

    “Are you any better than your fathers. The white man is a born liar and hypocrite.”

    “We must continue to agitate against these racist bastards.”

    And the white folks are the racists?? Wonder why I am concerned about a new outbreak of violence relative to the Stockley/Smith shooting? After viewing the information that has been made public I found a lot of information that could be exploited by a guy like Shahid.

    Shahid also has a Facebook page that is interesting.

    https://www.facebook.com/AnthonyShahid1

    Yes, I believe the Stockley/Smith shooting is going to be the nexus of the next big show. I have more to discuss about the S/S shooting, but I’m hesitant to put it out on an open site, especially since the person whom I believe we need to watch maybe watching us. I wish there was a way to do private messages.

    Take Care

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    • VegasGuy says:

      I tend to agree with all you state. Good that you can confirm that Ferguson PD is independent of SLMPD. It is what I believed but was not certain.

      With the lack of Ferguson PD being subservient to SLMPD, then my thought of tying in SLMPD undisclosed settlements to possible undisclosed insurance arrangements that Ferguson possibly might also have, is not going to be valid.

      Still, a key point the Judge made was that the Brown case has very weak standing & if Ferguson can not be proven to not have sovereign immunity, that is another potential of yet another count potentially being dismissed.

      That leaves just the remaining counts of the Brown family claiming Michael’s dependency. But the Judge also indicated that as Michael was over 18 & an adult, those counts may also end up being dismissed. The potential for a Civil win seems to be deminishing.

      With Shahid’s involvement in the S / S case, maybe the objective is to present a “new”” victim that Crump et al can attach themselves to. Shahid spearheading the charge & coming up with a new martyr to have the BLM rally behind, would need exposure & clamoring in the streets to get it jump started.

      That is a task that Shahid / Crump are well up to. So maybe that’s where this is headed if the MB Civil case fails in total…..Sort of a back up that’s been put in motion.

      As you point out, the connections between Shahid, Sullivan, & Crump, all being part of the BGI, does lend itself to something being “cooked” up. Just what, at this point, I am clueless to. But clearly, Sullivan joining up with Crump & Gray, and a new strategy being developed for the MB Civil case, warrants being watched closely.

      A slow death of the Brown case coupled with a steady rise in interest of the S/S case might be a connection that’s brewing.

      The untimely release of the full GJ testimony, along with identifying the witnesses, could lead to some ufortunate incidents in & around Ferguson. And that could start the firestorm, so to speak.

      I know you have other undisclosed infor on the S / S case, and I wonder if perhaps one or more of the Brown GJ witnesses have connections to individuals that case? That would be one way to reignite the BLM cause & just replace MB with a new victim with similiar circumstances. And that could get the “fires” burning again in & around the St.L general area (pun intended).

      Shahid’s involvement with the other cases you brought up leads one to believe that something is afoot. And you are correct that it is a powder keg in the midst of the election cycle. I would be interested to watch developments where Shahid utilizes Brown GJ witnesses ( or information pertaining to them), to instigate something in Ferguson, while the meme of a potential “new” victim the S/S case starts to develop ……

      I have pretty much exhausted my stored data & resources concerning the points you brought up. I have not been able to research any further connections at this point, but I am sure there are many yet to be discovered.

      I will watch with interest in the direction of the Brown case & how it’s outcome might potentially tie in with the S/S case. Let’s watch to see if they appear to overlap & coincide with one dying out while the other gains momentum & see who of the BGI jumps on the wagon.

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