March 28th – 2016 Presidential Election – Open Discussion

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905 Responses to March 28th – 2016 Presidential Election – Open Discussion

  1. bdc5551 says:

    Anybody see this yet: http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

    Didn’t read it closely yet, but it’s from a woman who claims to have worked for the Trump campaign and says that Trump never intended on winning the nomination. And is loaded of criticisms of Trumps character.

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  2. For all those worried about dirty delegate counting, Trump has hired Paul Manafort to help with the delegate process. Link here: http://goo.gl/RdoSr0

    From the article:

    “Mr. Manafort, 66, is among the few political hands in either party with direct experience managing nomination fights: As a young Republican operative, he helped manage the 1976 convention floor for Gerald Ford in his showdown with Ronald Reagan, the last time Republicans entered a convention with no candidate having clinched the nomination.

    He performed a similar function for Mr. Reagan in 1980, and played leading roles in the 1988 and 1996 conventions, for George H. W. Bush and Bob Dole.”

    Manafort owns a lobbyist company with Rick Davis.

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    • Sandra says:

      Sounds good. I see now how complex the delegate matter is! I had no idea in prior years. Different allocations, different rounding, different handling of dropped out candidates’ delegates, plus the bartering at the convention … what a mess.

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      • I know. This is the first election that I’ve really paid attention. It seems it’s all geared toward one thing: to give the illusion of public choice while still maintaining tight control of the outcome. It’s disheartening, but somehow, I think Mr. Trump will figure it out.

        Oh yes, there’s going to be a new sheriff in town.

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  3. LoreneTN says:

    I think I saw this on Facebook. If here, this may be a repeat.

    See…even puppy dogs listen to Donald (except that brown dog who must be a Bernie supporter):

    It’s only 39 sec.

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  4. Sandra says:

    We keep hearing what I would say is a myth that most Muslims are peace-loving and some are actually helping the authorities to spot the terrorists and prevent terrorist attacks before they happen. And thus any immigration changes which affect only Muslims will be “counterproductive” if not a “war on Islam” as I heard one nutcase say in a video clip, sorry I don’t have it handy right now.

    So right now on Erin Burnett’s show she’s talking about a report that the Brussels terrorists were very sloppy and they leaked chemicals all over the place. Some dripped down into unit(s) below. A fellow who lives in the building said that the terrorists were nice people and only had a few furnishings, and he would see them come and go with large suitcases. The terrorists kept their bomb-making clothes in the basement. And what do Erin and her guest say about this? It’s the fault of the Brussels authorities! The authorities should have, apparently, smelled the chemicals, noticed the leaks, witnessed the large suitcases, and spotted the work clothes. Right? WHAT ABOUT THOSE HELPFUL NICE MUSLIMS? Why didn’t any of them say anything????

    Do we have even a single case of helpful Muslims or is this just a complete and total fabrication? Nobody told authorities about the Boston bombers’ suspicious activities. Nobody told authorities about Farook and his terror bride. Nobody told authorities about the 9/11 hijackers who were all over the country making their preparations. Is there one single case of helpfulness?

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    • Michelle says:

      That’s the thing–all the opponents of Trump’s temporary ban on Muslim immigration, or the fears that Trump might alienate Muslims all argue that we “need” the good Muslims so that they can rat out the “bad” Muslims. Not once has that ever happened, so I don’t know how they can defend that concept. To me, to blanket “all Muslims” with the same rules would make it MORE likely that the “good” ones would help get rid of the “bad” Muslims, because if they don’t, the “good” Muslims don’t get the benefits of coming in, if they see it as a benefit.

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  5. Stihlgirl says:

    I’m in Wisconsin-just now heard a “Club For Growth” ad stating that a vote for Kasich is a vote for Trump and if we want to stop Trump we need to vote for Cruz. Made me want to throw something at the TV-hearing a lot of negative ads-here’s another one, “how much do we really know about Donald Trump” with snippets of things he’s said from years ago- can’t remember the pac name but it’s like every 5 minutes there’s another one. Wow.

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    • Sandra says:

      It’s pretty funny when you think about it, they know Trump supporters are very loyal so don’t try to change our minds. So they go after the Kasich supporters. I don’t think the Kasich supporters are stupid to fall for an ad like that, especially when they have seen the recent polls which put Kasich ahead of Cruz. 🙂 Hmmm, maybe a vote for Cruz is a vote for Trump, eh?

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  6. FatLadySings4U says:

    This is a really good article. Trump will take PA by a landslide. That’s my hope🙂

    Voters in Old Gop Establishment Bastion Have no Taste for ‘Stop Trump’
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/28/donald-trump-republican-establishment-northeast-pennsylvania/82337778/

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  7. entagor says:

    Drudge is holding back on the NE story. Maybe people are hoping Drudge will commit on some angle of this, at which point they intend to sucker punch Drudge. Drudge drives a lot of the news. Drudge isn’t giving somebody an opening

    I suspect Cruz would race to call a presser and denounce Drudge with the same line he used on Trump. The MSM would divert all their panel shows to the Drudge Problem right up to the next primaries which I think is the point

    In the long run, I think Cruz hurt himself by his jack rabbit leap to blame Trump. This is a Cruz weakness. He likes to win and take a scalp, when a win would suffice. People get the uneasy feeling it is the scalp and not the win that matter It is part of the Cruz creepiness

    Cruz didn’t hold all the cards when he went after Trump with his outrage speech. He was too greedy to take a scalp
    Trump had one card when he released the side by side wife pics: A Cruz agent had started it by serving up a pic of Trump’s wife on a bed of lettuce.
    Instead of playing Hamlet, Trump turned it into Prime Rib versus Chuck Roast

    I once got this fortune from a fortune cookie “Remember, to be loved, one must both love, and, be lovable”

    Ultimately t’were the Chuck Roast that was betrayed, by a fool’s gamble

    Even if they forget to tell the public who played the first card, Prime Rib comes back to haunt, like the Ghost in Hamlet. Act I Scene V

    Ghost
    I find thee apt;
    And duller shouldst thou be than the fat weed
    That roots itself in ease on Lethe wharf,
    Wouldst thou not stir in this. Now, Hamlet, hear:
    ‘Tis given out that, sleeping in my orchard,
    A serpent stung me; so the whole ear of Denmark
    Is by a forged process of my death
    Rankly abused: but know, thou noble youth,
    The serpent that did sting thy father’s life
    Now wears his crown.

    HAMLET
    O my prophetic soul!

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    • nole2016 says:

      I wonder if Drudge has an idea of what the NE will release next and is waiting for the kill shot.

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    • Wiggy says:

      I’m still waiting for the million dollar lawsuit against the Enquirer by Ted or Amanda Carpenter. I would think if he was not guilty he would be filing the lawsuit rather than trying to go low class and falsely blame Trump.

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  8. Zen Masta says:

    I just watched a video with Roger Stone saying that Mr. Trump just hired one of the best delegate vote counters in the business. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvWOGAHsZcA

    It won’t be so easy to steal this election from Mr. Trump!

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    • Melania for 1st Lady says:

      Malzberg: Do you know, for a fact, that Lyin’ Ted had sex with at least one of these women?
      Stone: Yes.

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      • truthandjustice says:

        This is great! Suggest everyone share as much as possible !!!!

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        • redsequin4 says:

          Thank goodness DT has hired someone to handle this delegate mess. He sounds like a wonderful edition to the DT team and someone who’s going to be invaluable at the convention. And also Roger Stone is amazing and seems to be on top of everything.

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        • StormyeyesC says:

          WHERE is RUBIO”S denial??? Telling…………….

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      • Katherine McCoun says:

        Good food for thought in this interview. Getting the 1237 delegates is important and most American’s will agree that its only dirty tricks if Mr. Trump has the nomination taken from him after getting the majority. If he does not get the majority its open and arguable that it is “fair” according to the rules at the time the campaign began. But if Mr. Trump reaches 1237 and then it is stolen it will be obvious for all to see.
        And yet, as pointed out by Mr. Stone, it can still be done via rules changes, etc., even if Mr. Trump gets the 1237 as rule changes happen Before the 1st vote!! Delegates unfriendly to Mr. Trump can help vote in rule changes that steel the nomination. Winning the most delegates matters but also choosing those delegates that are to represent the people’s choice in their state honestly (in states that Mr. Trump wins) matters. Wow! What a tough campaign. But Hillary won’t be any easier so good have a tough match to practice!

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      • More than one. That was interesting.

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      • Michelle says:

        “Do you know for a FACT that he had sex with any of these women?”

        RS: Yes.

        “How many?”

        RS: More than one.

        Roger Stone was completely unblinking and totally solid in his response. He didn’t glance around, sound unsure, or anything like that.

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        • Tejas Rob says:

          Well, Stone said with certainty that Teddy had been dipping his wick. Cruz can now sue Stone if this is all false. I won’t hold my breath waiting on the lawsuit to be filed.
          Stone is a shark. Trump knew what he was doing when he got him on his side.

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      • Sandra says:

        Trump might not be successful in reclaiming any of the delegates in Louisiana from the dropped-out candidates. Some of the states have laws that allow this. At least it doesn’t take any delegates away from Trump, so if he wins 1237 he gets the nomination. However, if South Carolina is playing games, as Stone says, requiring that delegates to this year’s convention must have also been at least year’s convention (if I understood Stone correctly) and none of Trump’s delegates fulfill that requirements, then this does take delegates away from Trump and that cannot be accepted in any state.

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  9. Michelle says:

    Looks like Trump was right again. He wasn’t buying that the iPhone couldn’t be unlocked. Unless the FBI is lying.

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/29/technology/apple-iphone-fbi-justice-department-case.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

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  10. Eric Kennedy says:

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    • Michelle says:

      Ok…what I see in this clip are two people who are very ugly on the inside. That’s how their behavior comes off. And clearly Cruz has memorized his response to the NE! That’s his 25-second speech that has the drive by untrue statement at the beginning and then the pivot to the distraction part.

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    • They didn’t handle that well. Carly looked at the ground when Ted was lying about Trump planting the story. This video is very telling.

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    • liberty2828 says:

      Carly took the mike and more… from Ted Cruz.

      That was embarrassing… he needs a woman to support and defend him.

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      • Wiggy says:

        liberty said: “he needs a woman to support and defend him”

        Where is Heidi and why was she not beside him to support and defend him instead of Carly? Has ANY network host have the integrity or guts to ask Cruz this?

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    • StormyeyesC says:

      wow………..total dodge!

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    • LoreneTN says:

      Ahhhhh…the new theme of the week (or day)…”a serial philanderer.” That’s not going to stick either.

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      • TheTorch says:

        How nasty are these two, seriously, how anyone could support either of those is beyond me.

        If this is what they are like in public just imagine what they are like in private.

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  11. Melania for 1st Lady says:

    Fox News Latino: #CruzSexScandal takes off as Lyin’ Ted fails to forcefully deny.
    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/opinion/2016/03/28/rick-sanchez-cruzsexscandal-takes-off-as-senator-fails-to-forcefully-deny/
    Lyin’ Ted’s got some ‘splaining to do!

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    • redsequin4 says:

      “But while Americans were coming to grips with the story, news outlets were running away from it. Running is bad enough, but framing the story incorrectly is even worse. By Friday afternoon, networks resigned themselves to covering the story essentially this way: “Ted Cruz is defending himself against Donald Trump’s accusations about cheating on his wife.”

      He totally nailed it. The media is running away from this story and blaming DT because that’s the agenda, hurt Trump, give Cruz a pass. This can’t go on much longer.

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  12. arkansasmimi says:

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    • redsequin4 says:

      Lyin’ Ted is spinning faster than a golden silk spider.

      The NE didn’t write the story about DT cheating, they wrote it about you Ted. If it’s not true, then sue. Otherwise we’ll have to assume there’s truth to the accusations.

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    • TheTorch says:

      Yes Teddy, accept he did not attack your wife you lying SOB.

      You know someone from the Trump campaign should point out if Cruz gets this worked up over a little tweet, then what would he be like as President ?

      Turn the temperament argument back on him, he clearly gets very wound up with anything to do with tweets! So clearly he won’t be much use in a pressure based job like the Presidency!

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  13. Sandra says:

    Scavino tweeted that there’s a Craigslist ad offering to pay people $15/hour to protest the Trump rally in WI. https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/714623007566782464 Gee, remember when Trump was accused of paying people to attend his ralliers? Looks like his detractors were blaming the wrongs side. Now, are these protesters from Cruz? The ad makes it look like Bernie is supporting it, but since Cruz is so good at employing junior high school tactics I’ll blame him.

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  14. redsequin4 says:

    WOW! Great article on the Maine primary.

    Did Ted Cruz Really Win Every County in Maine?
    3/22/2016 11:28:00 PM JIM B
    http://www.politijim.com/2016/03/did-ted-cruz-really-win-every-county-in.html

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  15. arkansasmimi says:

    Funny right there!!

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  16. arkansasmimi says:

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  17. arkansasmimi says:

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    • Sandra says:

      A lawyer who represented the so-called “D.C. madam” says he has phone records that could influence the outcome of the presidential election, and he’s threatening to release one or more names on the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court if he’s denied a hearing on his right to distribute them. Montgomery Blair Sibley, the late madam Deborah Palfrey’s colorful attorney, has been subject to a restraining order since 2007 barring him from releasing the information, which he says includes 815 names, addresses and Social Security numbers of Verizon Wireless customers. […] Cruz was first elected to the Senate in 2012 but represented Texas several times during Supreme Court arguments while Palfrey’s business operated.

      I’ll tell you this? If it IS Cruz then he is absolutely pooping bricks right now. Heidi too.

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      • georgiafl says:

        Cruz didn’t go to DC until 2012. Would he be among the miscreants?

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        • Dawn says:

          Cruz worked for Bush in DC I think

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        • wheatietoo says:

          Cruz has spent a lot of time in DC…working for Dubya, then arguing cases before the Supreme Court….before he was elected Senator.

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        • Wiggy says:

          Here is some info on Cruz from Wikipedia: “Between 1999 and 2003, he was the Director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and domestic policy advisor to George W. Bush on the 2000 George W. Bush presidential campaign.”

          He was elected to the Senate in November 2012.

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      • Linda Ruth says:

        Palfrey was “suicided” to silence her after she announced she had incriminating detailed information. If Sibley has the same information she had, he won’t live to release it either, unless he has a dead man’s switch. Which means that someone else is holding the info for him and will make it public if Sibley dies.

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        • Lulu says:

          He sounds as though he’s ready to spill the info with or without the court’s agreement. Believes it would be a public service – clearly has something to do with one or more candidates.

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  18. arkansasmimi says:

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  19. Capital Children’s Choir. So inspiring, hard to put in words. Please feel free to move to a different forum if this is not the best place. I hope you enjoy like I do:

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  20. Pam says:

    It looks like a third stop has been added to the WI schedule this week on Saturday.
    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule

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    • Wiggy says:

      Yes there are now 4 stops, Janesville, De Pere, Appleton and Wausau.

      Notice they are all in the daytime and none at night? Suppose it may be for security reasons?

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    • MtnCougar says:

      Thank you. Wow, this is a great article with some really good statements…

      “Granted, Trump is not a fountain of eloquence like Reagan. Nor does he roll off his tongue intricate policy specifics like the glib shamans of Washington do. But what he does do is bring to America its last best hope to right the sinking ship of a once great country through the sheer force of his personality.”

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  21. Nottakingthisanymore says:
    • Wiggy says:

      She is just trying to deflect attention from serial philanderer Ted Cruz. Besides, why was she standing beside Cruz instead of Heidi? Uh oh.

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  22. lineabirgit says:

    Update from the flip side:
    The Hillary people are very angry with Bernie. Apparently Bernie is being mean to Hillary, polls show Bernie supprters wont vote for Hillary if (when) she gets the nomination, and the BERN THE WITCH meme has them particularly incensed. LoL

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    • Wiggy says:

      Now that is funny. The low class Republicans say if Trump in the nominee they will vote for Hillary. Now Bernie says that if Hillary is the nominee his supporters will vote Republican.

      Hypocrisy abounds among Americana.

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