January 15th – 2016 Presidential Election – Open Discussion Thread

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517 Responses to January 15th – 2016 Presidential Election – Open Discussion Thread

  1. Mo says:

    He’s a great defender of Cruz, even going into Cruz’a ‘mind’ and telling us a-holes what Cruz meant when he dissed New York values. Pathetic.

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  2. SharonKinDC says:

    Through out the entire process thus far, HOW the candidates frame their attacks is quite instructive. To me, Trump comes out way ahead of the pack for several reasons. The following are what I’d call Trump Principles in Battle:
    1. He’s a counter-puncher. Doesn’t start stuff, but he’ll finish it.
    2. If he has something to say, he’ll do so in public. No differing messages to various groups.
    3. When he DOES hit, he strikes the politician.
    4. He never targets the PEOPLE.
    5. He DEFENDS the people against attacks from other politicians.

    Cruz’s latest adventures fail on the Trump Principles.
    Cruz thought he’d be ‘clever’ and parrot the line Trump said indirectly about Cruz’s father, that not many Evangelical’s come out of Cuba. This was a worthy hit from Trump because Cruz Sr has been on the stump for Ted for a couple YEARS and he uses Evangelicalism as a selling point. (Of course, most have zero idea re the Dominionism) It IS fair game, considering the rather sickening manner that religion is being used to equate with worthiness to hold a political office. It wouldn’t matter if Sr was Hindu, Catholic, or Jewish… However, none would have the same success and inroads across America. Trump wasn’t bashing Evangelicals, or religious Christians. He DID indirectly poke a bit at Sr & Jr MOTIVATIONS regarding USE of their faith. Fair game.

    As far as religion goes, Trump’s been quite honest. He’s a Mainline Protestant who went to Sunday school and regular church services as a child. As an adult, he doesn’t attend regularly. Nor does he pretend to go for the piety award. In fact, he’s quite up front in admitting he’s a flawed human, blaming the failure of two previous marriages on himself.

    Contrast: Cruz denigrated VOTERS. Specifically, New Yorkers. Considering Cruz shows up in NYC with his hand out looking for $$$, it made his attack all the more hypocritical. That is simply astoundingly STUPID. That he underscored his ‘cleverness’ by using the same phrasing as Trump, illustrates he can frame an argument…and miss the entire point. IOW, he ‘gets’ the tactic, but not the strategy, nor apparently, can he accurately weigh the wisdom and merit in employing a tactic with differing details. Very smart man, who is incredibly stupid and tone deaf.

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    • Katherine McCoun says:

      Yes, you are right. Support for Trump comes not just from his policies and his perceived ability to lead and negotiate, but also from his genuine love of country, authenticity, honesty and integrity. We believe he will do as he says he will do. We believe it is not just campaign talk. When he says he isn’t sure if he has ever asked for forgiveness, I pray for him, know that I won’t go to him for deep theological questions, won’t emulate him on this point, but I support and vote for him because that is honest, genuine & I am not voting for my next preacher but the next POTUS!!! He has character – good! He was honest – good! He hasn’t asked forgiveness – I will pray for him and disagree with that. But I am voting for him because of his plans to national security, trade, Constitutionalism, etc. not to write my next devotional or be my prayer partner.
      I figure I will disagree with some of his policies, some of his choices etc. No one agrees with another person all of the time. But I trust that he will have certain guidelines in his policies that I do agree with and that he will not completely flip flop on things like the boarder and 2nd amendment. And when there is trouble he will come down on the side of Americans not America’s enemies

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    • stringy theory says:

      As always, excellent and insightful analysis. Good work!

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    • This may sound controversial, but in my experience the liberals that I know love our country. We recognize the same problems, for the most part. The big difference is the solutions. Leadership is about persuading people who disagree on the solution and bringing them to your side to solve problems. You can’t lead people who disagree on the problem or don’t seek a solution (ISIS, Commies etc) One reason Trump is so appealing to a whole swath of people in our country is we all want to Make America Great Again, and he knows how to persuade and lead those who disagree on the solution. Thats a winning coalition for the USA

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      • Agreed! If you listen to Bernie he is hitting the same list of issues (less of course the big ones Trump brought up). The difference is the proposed solution. For example: Trump – bomb ISIS, take the oil, freeze their bank accounts; Bernie – fix Global Warming.

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      • SharonKinDC says:

        I’ve been saying the same thing for years, sanj! The liberals & even ‘progressives’ I know, are good, decent people. Furthermore, most live ‘conservatively’, even if they aren’t religious. They work hard, pay their bills, try to save what they can…. The garden variety D’s I know are the same.

        Most also really are lousy on the topics of history and economics. The garden variety D’s are a bit better, especially the engineers (who aren’t already R’s or I’s)

        Most have bought into the R’s are evil propaganda to varying degrees, which is a pity. So while I’ll rant against ignorance about facts, I try to avoid demonizing all, because it’s not true AND that’s no way to win people over!

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  3. Katherine McCoun says:

    What Cruz is completely not picking up on, a evidence by the NY Values gaffe, is that this election is about American Values – the old fashioned American values, that used to be universal and pervasive throughout society but now seem to only be found in Conservative circles (and that the GOPe give lip service to during election time but vote against when it counts). The American Values of patriotic love of country, America first, thrift, hard work, honesty and integrity, pride in the numerous high points of our country’s history, helping one’s fellow countryman (and then the rest of the world) personally (not volunteering other’s money to help out one’s fellowman), pride and believing in the American Constitution, freedom, etc.
    NY, even in the City, believes in the American dream and in America as a country and shares a love of country. This is not an election in which we old fashioned, true blue Americans want to be divided on social/cultural/religious issues. Yes, most NY has a reputation for being socially liberal. But that is not where this election is being decided and what is burning in most voters hearts. It is about our nation as a country, our safety, our borders, about bending our Constitution so far it is breaking, about the rule of law, about the separation of powers and about the Elites v. the majority of the country. And the Economy!!!! Trade Agreements!!!!
    Pie in the sky liberalism doesn’t put meat and veggies on the table for my family! Capitalism does!
    Smart, Fair free trade does!!! and Trump is the man to do it!
    We will not be fooled by the GOPe into voting for them based on social issues. They count on social issues to keep us in their “big tent” but they drop the ball on those social issues so even if that was what this election is about why bother? They let a few elected officials vote conservatively enough to keep the social conservatives happy thinking they have a voice. We are not fooled by that this time and we are not seeing that as a priority.
    Yes, those things still matter to us. But what difference do they make if we no longer have a country? First things first this election. And much progress is being made on the state level of some of these very important issues. I am thinking specifically of abortion. State elections have shown that they matter on this issue in particular, unlike voting as a single issue voter in national elections.
    There are fundamental issues at stake this election and we will be distracted or divided.
    Cruz doesn’t get what this election is about and his NY Values comment cements the evidence of this misunderstanding — or that he does understand is trying to divide and obscure the support for a united and strong America vote.
    On the issues of this election America is united and strong, patriotic Americans are found everywhere. some places less than others but none the less they are everywhere!!!
    When Obama won again in 2012 I was greatly disappointed. However, 1 thing I thought might come out of it was — “well, good. Now no excuses to the left as to why their polices didn’t work. They can’t say ‘only 4 years! if we had 8 year could have worked!’ Now it will be 8 year of far left leadership and policy. Let America get so much of it they get a belly full and get sick and never, never have to go through this again!” I think this 8 years has been a huge dose of reality to the pie in the sky promises of the far left!

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    • Cruz is pandering plain and simple. He is trying to win Iowa by using traditional methods. Middle America ‘believes’ they are different than the big cities (small town values, more moral); this is a fact. Cruz is pretending to be religious because he thinks he needs to be to win Iowa like the people there are blindly stupid to the rest of the worldly issues going on. This is the same reason Santorum (who won Iowa before) keeps hitting on abortion like that is the only thing anyone cares about. Cruz is pretending to be ultra religious, and he tossed out that NY thingy to pander to Iowa to insinuate that Iowa does not like NY’s lack of morals. That is all there is to this.

      Cruz is playing the traditional politician game of trying to get the religious vote, trying to get the Hispanic vote, trying to get the Black vote…by pandering directly to those groups. In the mean time, Trump is out flanking all the traditional ‘methods’ and going straight to the heart of everyone at the same time. He is baffling everyone by not being traditional. The pollsters must be going insane because he is not doing anything they have professed for decades they need to do to win. When Trump wins he will make all the pollsters irrelevant all at once! Ouch.

      Just listen to Huckabee (another one that won Iowa trying to appeal to the religious) this morning complain about Trump’s methods and message and how it is ruining everything in Iowa. ‘He is doing nothing he is supposed to be doing and he is winning! This is ruining the game in Iowa and will forever change it….whah…’ The panderers are being left behind as everyone flocks to the truth…and they cannot stand it!

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  4. SouthCentralPA says:

    Alright, so which one of you just called into Rush and tried to give him the business … ? 🙂

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  5. truthandjustice says:

    Re concerns about Evangelical votes (going to Cruz) – be encouraged —- there’s more of us that are for Trump than most think:

    From pastor Carl Gallups – of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church who gave invocation at Pensacola rally:
    “.. Gallups is warning doubters the Donald is the real thing when it comes to fighting for Christians, conservatives and America.
    “He loves this nation and its heritage, …..He’s the anti-Obama, .. opposite of Obama… commander in chief material, he has that kind of presence, and he’d be tough on our enemies.”
    Gallups called Trump a “salty New Yorker,” but nonetheless rejected Sen. Ted Cruz’s recent allegation Trump’s supposed “New York values” were a liability.
    Trump is, . at the least, unashamed to publicly declare himself a Christian and could reverse the anti-Christian measures the pastor sees coming from the Obama administration.
    “What we need is something that gives Christians the opportunity to practice our faith, share our faith and call our nation to repentance without being attacked and mocked for doing so,”..
    Many evangelicals evidently believe Trump can provide just that.
    ..has a surprising amount of support from evangelicals, which Trump is moving to consolidate with upcoming appearances at Liberty University and Regent University. .. observers believe evangelicals are rallying to Trump because previous politicians supported by the Christian Right have failed to deliver on key policy issues.
    ..Gallups believes it is Trump’s image as a man of action that is winning over so many conservatives.
    “Trump commands the presence of a room when he walks in,….I call it the ‘Trump Factor.’ I think most Americans think if he’s in charge, they’ll respect us and our enemies will even fear us if they need to. And he’s the kind of guy who can get things done.”


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    • liberty2828 says:

      Good Shelley! Also loved the reply about Graham endorsing Bush…

      “It’s like saying your mom agreed to be your prom date”. Haahahaa


  6. NHVoter says:

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    • Polar Vortex says:

      strident – loud and harsh. Interesting word for Trump to use in his tweet about Cruz in the debate last night. Since I don’t believe Trump does anything by accident, any thoughts on why he chose strident, instead of loud and harsh in his tweet?

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      • mad3703 says:

        I like the second definition of strident as well…presenting a point of view, especially a controversial one, in an excessively and unpleasantly forceful way.

        Ted Cruz the strident Cuban-Canadian Senator from Texas.. until he lost re-election bid and went back to defending the Chinese.

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        • kathyca says:

          Yes. I think that’s why he chose that word. When I use it, it’s almost always in the context of describing a person who has taken a position and been “strident” about it. Not just loud and harsh, but loud and harsh in the context of attempting to make a point or in support of a particular argument or position.


    • truthandjustice says:

      Funny – “strident” is one of the descriptive words his college friends said about Cruz:



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    • KitKat says:

      I’ve always thought that Cruz’s supporters represented the Ted’s real inner mind.

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  7. truthandjustice says:

    Ha – for those that have been concerned about Rush being pro-Cruz — just heard a caller who is like “us” and they let her on – which is encouraging. She said she didn’t think Cruz was so “Conservative” at all and reminded her of a preacher her grandma listened to on the radio asking for donations for prayer cloths, etc. — in other words, a “used car salesman”, snake-oil, etc.
    She said Trump on the other hand didn’t need the money, fame – he’s doing it because he’s a patriot. She told him he should go ahead and say he’s supporting Cruz and get rid of the confusion. Rush acted surprised and said there wasn’t any confusion and didn’t understand her statements……………LOL

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  8. Backspin says:

    Rushy Limberger is stuttering , backpedaling , and apoplectic today like NEVER before. The Cold Anger blowback is evident. // Fake Talk Radio is Finished. Even late night AM Radio is safe and censored these days. John B. Wells is one of the few Independent voices left. -The Giant is Awake.

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    • stringy theory says:

      Yes, we have had years of as you say, “Fake Talk Radio,” and never got it until Trump smoked them all out. I don’t think we’ll forget after this is over.

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  9. NCPatriot says:

    Rush was generally positive toward Trump today and talking about the GOPe refusal to want to embrace their conservative base , evidenced by the debates last night.

    Then a woman Trump supporter called and asked Rush why he didn’t just come out and endorse Cruz and be honest about his support. Then she said “you keep saying he is the most conservative—-but he is not always conservative at all—he flip flops on many issues like immigration, the trade bill, the Iran Bill etc” then she said she wasn’t voting for a used car salesman, a super debater or a televangelist —-she was voting for a Commander-in Chief! Priceless !

    I think Rush was stunned——-luckily he was up against a break—and never went back to follow up on her call after the break.

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  10. Regina says:

    sry if this is a repost –

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  11. mad3703 says:

    This is a very interesting article tweeted by Scott Adams today — American Spring great read


  12. Summer says:

    The Cruzbots think that their Canadian Idol won the debate “hands down” and attracted “millions of voters” across America by disparaging NY values. If the next few polls show Cruz surging, they might have a point. Somehow I doubt that, though.
    Closer to Iowa, even the fake polls will get less fake. The pollsters should be concerned with the public perception of their credibility, after all.

    Anyway, the NE swing states won’t like his comment, I think. Florida is for Trump. Nevada is for Trump. So, which state’s majority of delegates does Cruz win by dissing NY? Texas? Iowa?
    I can’t wait for the actual voting to start, the suspense is almost unbearable, lol.


  13. Doodahdaze says:

    Remember. All candidates are splitters except Trump. The goal is a convention power play. Is now, always has been. Bush is the annointed one.

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    • Yup, because I read yesterday that ‘winning’ a State to count towards the 8 needed means 54% of the total votes for that State and not just having the most at the end of the day. There are supposedly some Super Delegates held in reserve or something. THIS is apparently why winning 8 States outright is typically so difficult. So Trump may ‘win’ Iowa with 40% but that will not do it. Same with all the other followup primaries. Totally absurd.

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  14. SeekerOfTruth says:

    Ted Cruz undisclosed campaign loan from Goldman. Illegal and this article explains details.

    PS. I am out to Iowa this weekend to swing some votes.

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  15. mjalbaine says:

    interesting article I just read off Drudge:


    “As a result, the federal government’s debt has now soared to nearly 600 percent of total revenue. And the Fed has spent the last eight years leveraging up its balance sheet 77-to-1 in its goal to peg short-term interest rates at zero percent.”

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  16. wyntre says:

    Michael Savage firmly in Trump’s corner and says he won the debate over Cruz.

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  17. Sanj says:

    Newsmax has a bunch of Pro Trump and anti Cruz articles on their homepage. Someone is going to lose their job.

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  18. TheLastDemocrat says:

    on hannity – rubio just repeats the party unity to defeat hiraly meme.

    if they want to beat hiraly, what better than getting behind the clear front-runner?

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  19. Dora says:

    This is nasty!! I can’t believe I used to admire this man! What happened to the Glen Beck of a few years ago? The one whose Washington DC rally I attended in 2010? That man seems to have been replaced by a monster!

    Trump Pimps 9/11 as ‘New York Values’

    Source: http://www.glennbeck.com/2016/01/15/trump-pimps-911-as-new-york-values/?utm_source=glennbeck&utm_medium=contentcopy_link

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    • NCPatriot says:

      Beck also told us this morning that he didn’t understand some of his audience (Cruz won his poll—-but not by much–against Trump. Then he said if we elected him we would be electing another narciasist like Obama, who might even be worse1

      (I am thinking he doesn’t know Trump very well, and of course the solution is to elect another first term senator with absolutely NO executive experience.)


      • TheTorch says:

        Beck is horrified because he said right at the beginning that Trump had no chance, he probably will never even file his financials etc. This guy always likes to think he can make accurate predictions.

        Instead, he is usually wrong on everything isn’t he ? and Trump is cleaning his clock.

        But Beck is the Cruz no.1 fan boy and can see no wrong in anything he does or has done, he is running to his defense big time today. What this tells us, is that he knows Cruz got smashed last night, and he is absolutely shocked by it.

        Now we have another story swirling around today of another undeclared loan or something by Cruz…

        Cruzbots are on suicide watch so they will be unhinged like never before, watch the meltdown commence…


  20. NHVoter says:


  21. Dora says:

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  22. Dora says:

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    • Martin says:

      Probably explains why he was so late to his rally in Iowa this morning. I guess Stupidanopoulos is ready for another butt kicking by Trump.


  23. Dora says:

    TV spot “Our Country” begin airing in Iowa and New Hampshire

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  24. drdeb says:

    I received this as a text today and I could not resist re-posting it.

    Dear Abby,
    My husband hasn’t worked in14 years. All he does is get dressed in the morning and hop in his fancy car to visit his cronies. Hes cheated on me many times with young girls who could be his grand daughters. I know because he brags about it. He smokes fancy cigars and drinks expensive Champagne day and night. We sleep in separate beds because hes always telling me he knows I`m a lesbian and my varicose veins and ugly face turn him off! Should I clobber him with my frying pan, or should I leave him Abby?
    Your advice will be appreciated,
    Mad as Hell

    Dear Mad as Hell,
    You dont have to take that kind of treatment from any man. I suggest you pack your bags and move out ASAP!! Dont resort to clobbering him with the frying pan, and try to act like a lady!
    Remember ……. you`re running for President of the United States, so try acting like it!

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  25. stevendufresne says:

    Already apologizing


    • KitKat says:

      Unfortunately for Ted, political apologies always look weak and insincere.

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    • TheTorch says:

      Yes fascinating to watch this unfold…

      He made a huge mistake, now they are looking at the internal polling data likely, along with the TV media and social media reactions…

      Scared to death, they now issue an apology.

      The problem is – they knew this was a mistake before the debate, they also knew Trump would likely mention 911. Cruz had a perfect opportunity at the debate to apologize on live TV and neuter the issue, it would also of meant Trumps response would of had far less effect. Instead he chose to run with it, and the result must be horrifying inside Camp Cruz.

      It is too little too late indeed, the damage is already done, they should of done this prior to the debate.

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      • TheTorch says:

        LOL – some apology ? I think he might of just made things worse, good grief… 🙂


        • KitKat says:

          You’re right. I should’ve clicked the link, for some reason I didn’t notice it. It’s not an apology at all. Well if he wants to play the tired old game of partisan divisiveness that’s his choice, but it’s really no different than what Obama did, just from the other side. The people are tired of the unending partisan games.


      • liberty2828 says:

        Terrible apology NOT… watching it is even worse. Yikes

        “You’re right, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton and Andrew Cuomo and Bill de Blasio,” have asked me to apologize,” Cruz said. “I apologize to the millions of New Yorkers who’ve been let down by liberal politicians.”

        Cruz continued with a litany of “apologies” to jab at Governor Cuomo and Mayor de Blasio.

        He apologized to those “denied jobs because Gov. Cuomo won’t allow fracking.”

        He apologized to the New Yorkers who are “pro-life and pro-marriage and pro-second amendment who were told by Gov. Cuomo they have no place in New York.”

        He apologized to the “African American children who Mayor de Blasio tried to throw out of their charter schools that were providing a pipeline to American Dream.”

        He also apologized to New York law enforcement and first responders who de Blasio doesn’t stand with and instead “stands with looters and criminals.”

        During Thursday’s debate, moderator Maria Bartiromo asked Cruz to explain past comments he had made about Trump embodying “New York values.”

        “You know, I think most people know exactly what New York values are,” the candidate said.

        “I am from New York. I don’t,” Bartiromo said.

        So the GOP conservative explained: “Listen, there are many, many wonderful, wonderful working men and women in the state of New York. But everyone understands that the values in New York City are socially liberal or pro-abortion or pro-gay-marriage, focus around money and the media.”


    • shelleybear66 says:

      Read the entire “apology”! It was completely disingenuous! He basically said he apologizes to New Yorkers for being held hostage by Liberal Politicians like Trump, Clinton and Deblasio! Not an apology @ all!

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    • FireAm 85 says:

      Raphael jr’s arrogance blinds him.

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    • WeThePeople2016 says:

      It was a snarky apology though. Not much substance and not genuine.

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  26. dizzymissl says:

    This is so good:

    American Spring: Software is eating politics and the elites have lost control. http://wp.me/psk70-1Vy43 via @naval

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  27. WeThePeople2016 says:

    I am reading on FB from some Cruz fans that flyover country will “love” what Cruz said about New Yorkers but that they think that Trump politicized 9/11. I think their ignorance is getting the best of them. I also think that Cruz supporters are in denial about their candidate. He came across as snarky, arrogant, self-absorbing, and a know-it-all last night and he is continuing it today. He has trashed a large segment of the U.S. with his holier-than-thou attitude. The pandering to the evangelicals will be his downfall.

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  28. TwoLaine says:

    TRUMP Bump Twitter Follower Update:

    Wednesday, January 13, 2016 – PM – 5.67M
    Thursday, January 14, 2016 – AM – 5.68M
    Friday, January 15, 2016 – AM – 5.69M
    Friday, January 15, 2016 – PM – 5.7M



  29. TheTorch says:

    Beck says Trump has an enemies list.

    Do you think Bush, Cruz, Rubio has an enemies list ?
    Trump will use IRS against his enemies.

    This is the rubbish BECK is now spewing.

    He is meaning enemies list like Obama does, and therefore will operate in a similar way.

    My response to Beck is simply this:

    YES I do believe Bush, Cruz and Rubio has an enemies list.
    It is the people, that is their enemy. They serve only one master the Globalists not the people, not the country.

    YES I do believe Trump has an enemies list.
    It is the Globalists and the media, who are fundamentally against the people and the country.

    Beck is in meltdown, to think I used to listen to this guy.
    He does not realize it, but he has become the very thing he apparently hates.
    If you want any more proof of just how bad that debate was for Cruz, this is IT.

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  30. Polar Vortex says:

    From a commentator on Hot Air

    Cruz is done. Trump has the gift of lobbing grenades that strike right at the core of someone to devastating effect, Perry stepped up first and got dismissed as “wearing glasses to look smart” (i.e., he’s stupid), Jeb was “low-energy”, Carly was “that face”, Carson was “the sociopath”, Rubio “the kid” sweating under the bright lights, now Cruz tries to step up and he’s already been branded as the 9/11 First Responder-hating Canuck. Add to that his Goldman Sachs hypocrisy, his TPP/Corker votes, flip-flopping on immigration, and he’s a cooked chicken. All that’s left is for Trump to carve ’em up for the dinner table.

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  32. Sanj says:

    This is what leadership and persuasion are all about…..got that Teddy

    I couldn’t copy the graph but Trump goes from 22/77 Favorable unfavorable to 66/33

    The Fix
    This is the single most stunning poll number on Donald Trump I have seen
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    By Chris Cillizza January 15 at 2:21 PM

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    Donald Trump, as I tell anyone who asks, defies virtually every political rule I thought I knew.

    There’s no better encapsulation of Trump’s up-is-down-and-down-is-up effect on presidential politics than a new number from the just-released NBC/Wall Street Journal poll.

    The question asked is a simple one: Could you see yourself supporting [fill in the blank candidate] for the Republican nomination for president? When NBC/WSJ first asked GOP voters that question about Trump last March, fewer than one in four (23 percent) said they could see themselves voting for him.

    To say that things have changed since then is an understatement on the level of saying Tom Brady is a pretty decent quarterback. Witness this chart built by the indispensable Philip Bump.

    It’s hard to overstate how remarkable it is that the number of Republicans who could see themselves backing a Trump nomination rose 42 — FORTY TWO — percentage points in 10 months. It’s all the more remarkable when you consider that Trump was already totally known by the GOP electorate last spring, meaning that his gains since that time are almost entirely the result of him changing peoples’ minds. And it’s something else entirely when you consider how Trump got here — a mixture of bravado and anger sprinkled with a dose of controversial statements and seeming gaffes that would have felled lesser candidate many times over.

    Trump’s improvement on the “could you see yourself voting for him” question is amazing enough in a vacuum. When you compare his rise on the question to, say, how Jeb Bush has fared on it, you begin to appreciate the true remarkableness of what Trump has done. Again, this chart comes courtesy of Philip Bump.

    If you need a single chart that tells the fact-really-is-stranger-than-fiction story of the Republican race to date, that’s it.

    What a race. I can’t even begin to wonder what’s coming next month when voters actually start voting.

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  33. Nnud says:

    Ted Cruz is Crude, Rude and Repugnant


  34. Nnud says:

    The Canadians are going to rue the day they let Teddy’s parents into the country to bear him


  35. yakmaster2 says:

    Someone said in an earlier thread that since Anderson Cooper is one of the Debate Moderators for Sunday night and the open mic comments of Trump are being pushed with such (faux) outrage by CNN and others, Trump should casually bring up Cooper et al calling Tea Party folks “TEABAGGERS.”

    When the term was first coined I thought it was just a derisive way of saying the Taxed Enough Already movement was radical—like the Boston Tea Party uprising. But when I asked my husband about it he said his co-workers had a definition of “tea bagging” that was sexual. Then I was infuriated that the American Press would PUBLICLY call American citizens something like an expletive. And they got away with it!!


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