Post GOP Debate Open Discussion Thread – Rapid Response Data…

This thread is open discussion.  That said, let me first kick it off by saying that was simply the most incredibly biased debate panel I have ever witnessed; and I’ve watched and participated in hundreds of debates.

Truly I mean that.  The CNBC organization should be ashamed of how they put together planned and pre-scripted gotcha questions that were transparently designed to be both rude in context and crude in delivery.

We expected to see bias, however that panel was so far beyond biased the light from where bias originates wouldn’t reach them for a year.

It appears RNC head Reince Prebius is also upset about it.  (Watch video snip inside tweet):

 

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436 Responses to Post GOP Debate Open Discussion Thread – Rapid Response Data…

  1. sundance says:

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  2. JoeS says:

    He looks a lot like Donald Trump when he was younger.

    Well, I think the debate is wrapped up for me this night. I look forward to the next one.

    It was great spending the eve with all here!

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    • lastConservinIllinois? says:

      This video is great, and very illustrative of why I’m glad I watched tonite

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      • R-C says:

        Funny…that clip illustrates why I did NOT watch the debacle.

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        • be says:

          lol ditto rc .. knew I could come here for an honest assessment without the pain 🙂

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          • NCPatrick says:

            I am glad I wasn’t the only one. I literally waited for it to start on TV, quickly confirmed that it was going to be a goat rodeo, and shut it off, preferring to read the comments here and other places today. It had already been decided that their mission was to wound all of the participants and if they could additionally deliver fatal blows to Trump, that would be the Grand Prize for Journalists. I just couldn’t watch it.

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            • joshua says:

              lol….fantastic….”goat rodeo”…..that is hilarious, and totally descriptive of the MSM communist liberals

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            • stringy theory says:

              I knew in advance it would be a joke so decided to watch a movie instead. Went to bed without my stomach churning. I despise the media in general and refuse to watch their blatant propaganda. Besides, I knew I could get the real scoop by coming to this great site and reading the comments of the posters. I guess somebody has to do it, but I’m glad it wasn’t me. I was a Trump guy before and still am. Nothing will change my mind about him–he’s our only hope.

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        • PatriotKate says:

          Ditto. Exactly why I did not watch last night. What a waste of time.

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    • seventhndr says:

      Media bias during the debates is typical every election, we all know that. What I found interesting was how much the candidates fought back. And I believe most of the spineless candidates only found a pair because Trump had proven you don’t have to be a beta to the media if your a GOP candidate. He deserves credit for steering this entire election into a different direction.

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  3. Paco Loco says:

    The moderators should have had placards that said DNC….the most biased crap questions ever asked. This is going to get really nasty, especially after Trump wins in Iowa and NH and the MSM will orchestrate it. Prebius is a complete sellout and if Rush is right, the Republican establishment wants Hillary to be elected, so tonight’s biased questions were all part of the devious orchestration. The Repbulican convention will be unreal to watch as the GOPe will attempt to deny Trump the nomination. Prepare to be cuckholded by the RNC.

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  4. paulgilpin says:

    i would like for someone to knock this prebius guy into next week.
    i mean it. hit him so hard he wakes up in next week.
    now before i get that admin warning tag informing me that promoting and/or advocating physical violence is not appropriate and/or permitted on this site, let me say this, i am not promoting and/or advocating physical violence. what i am doing is promoting and/or advocating time travel. now regardless of what the high council of the vulcan science academy says about the possibility, or lack thereof, of time travel, hit this guy so hard he wakes up in next week.
    now please note i did not say, to hit him so hard he does not wake up FOR a week, i said he would wake up IN next week.
    now also please note the the hitting and/or striking is merely being done to provide propulsion in this time travel event and is therefore not physical violence.
    i hope that is clear.

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  5. Justice_099 says:

    I actually liked Christie quite a bit in this debate. I was a bit shocked. Not enough to vote for him by any means, but of all the times I have seen him, this one did impress me.

    I was also pleasantly surprised how they got along despite the plan to make them go after each others throats. I can’t help but think they all got together, discussed what they knew the strategy would be, and agreed to say at least one nice thing about another candidate.

    Oh, and somebody really needs to fact-check CNN’s fact-check.

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    • lastConservinIllinois? says:

      Christie is a tempest in a (really fat) teapot.

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    • Piper says:

      justice099-I think he would make a great attorney general for President Trump!

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    • parteagirl says:

      I loved Christie’s response to the fantasy football question.

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      • El Torito says:

        I think he ended Jeb’s run with that response. Thank you Mr. Christie.

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        • marierogers says:

          i am totally puzzled as to why marco got hurrahs for his comments! nothing changes the facts..he has a job and hes been absent and getting paid! thats something to applaud?

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          • peachteachr says:

            Then do you agree with the CNBC moderator who asked the question, marie? Senators who run for the presidency have been doing this forever, well, at least the last 20 years. They were NOT concerned with Rubio’s missed votes or they would have asked the same question of Obama 8 years ago. This was asked to hurt Rubio and not because the moderators believe in truth and doing the right thing.

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            • JRD says:

              Rubio ran for his senate seat on changing the District of Corruption not jumping in the cesspool.

              The fact remains we Floridians are not getting represented while Rubio is still paid $174K for doing nothing.

              If a freshman senator with no executive experience like 0bama was an empty suit, Rubio is an empty suit.

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            • jello333 says:

              Not to defend Rubio (I don’t even like the guy), but yeah… how can you NOT miss quite a few votes when you’re running for office? That’s part of the problem with politics in general, almost as soon as one election ends, it’s time to start thinking about the next one. Pretty messed up, but I don’t know how to fix it. So anyway, if we said that pols had to keep up with their regular day-to-day work while at the same time campaigning for the next election, without EVER missing a vote or anything… well I doubt any incumbent would be able to run for re-election. Hmm… maybe that’s a GOOD thing? 😉

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          • 1harpazo says:

            You missed his point. He exposed the hypocrisy of the media when the Daily Sentinel news rag condemned him for missing votes yet it not only didn’t say anything about Senators Kerry and 0bama missing 60 to 70% of their votes while campaigning, but went on to endorse them.

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    • Christie mis-represented himself. His poll numbers in NJ are terrible. He never spends any time doing his own job, like Rubio. His own constituents want him to resign.

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  6. Pat Dooley says:

    It was better than the previous two debates because it didn’t pitch candidates against each other. Despite the questions, many of the candidates got to express conservative views. Fiorina was good on crony capitalism, for example. Christie was good. Trump was fine. Ben Carson was less sleepy and impressed. Kasich and Bush were boring. Huckabee was an entertainer.

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    • tessa50 says:

      I think they wanted to pitch the candidates against each other, but that the candidates wouldn’t allow it. Which was good, we got to hear them talk about what they want to do vs. attack each other.

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      Carly has a great set of talking points on crony capitalism, gov’t spending, talk about tax reform… But… She didn’t offer any specific solutions. At this point, most already know the problems.

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  7. Piper says:

    I will repeat what I posted earlier on the live stream thread:
    Trump, who has amassed more money than everyone in that building tonight combined, was not given 1 substantive question the entire night, and when he was and got going with his answer they cut him off, while letting the others ramble on and on. I was proud of him for calmly standing there being ignored, if he had butted in or over talked anyone they would have used it against him, glad to see he’s getting better and better at this. Very presidential. By the time the ignorant masses start paying attention to the election, Trump will be a finely tuned candidate! I love him, I have never had a hero in my life, until now!

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    • Raffaella says:

      Agreed. No one gets the unfairness and constant insulting comments like Trump. They never ask him a serious question. They address him in such demeaning way it is breathtaking. I hope Primaries come sooner so they can all shot up after his huge wins.

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    • Tonawanda says:

      Wonderful observations! He looked like a wise general listening to the others.

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    • NCPatrick says:

      Here is how I am starting to see this Republican table shaping up: Trump, by virtue of his age, bearing and business acumen and experience is the CEO and the one who should be in charge. (He couldn’t work any other position anyway.) Then there are others who could perform well in Cabinet positions where they could acquire experience and seasoning and provide President Trump with necessary specialty information. We admire Cruz and recognize that Christie is actually quite a sharp guy and there must be some place for Rubio — they are good guys but not ready to sit in the top chair yet. Trump is. I can see Cabinet meetings where they provide him with their reports, just like any other corporation. In the end the President will decide but I’m very sure Trump long ago learned how to attract and utilize talent. And besides he knows everybody!

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      At the next debate, I think Trump needs to quickly answer or deflect BS Q’s, and get out his message on key topics. If they aren’t going to ask relevant Q’s, he’ll have to go around the mods.

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  8. 22227z says:

    Reince and the GOP booked the gig, and now he is whining how bad it was? Any honest, patriotic red blooded American could and would do better than Reince and the GOP in just about everything, not to mention putting a debate together. I believe it was all on purpose, otherwise they would organize and put a real debate together w/the way it should be done.

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    • Autumn says:

      I completely agree. Reince & Repeat cannot possibly be that incompetent. There must be some value for the GOPe to allow these biased debates or they would stop them. Perhaps it helps them to control who the Republican nominee is by not allowing a grassroots candidate to rise above the fray.(as in 2008/2012). With the liberal moderators constantly attacking and asking inane questions, it is harder for voters to determine the substantive differences between the candidates.

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      • phil fan says:

        “Some value” = simple, they want Hillary to be POTUS and that explains everything about tonight. Sadly for them, happily for us a populist candidate, Mr Trump, has arisen to complicate their schemes. Uniparty not expecting anyone but Jeburrito (lol) or equivalent to challenge and lose to HRC. But Donald Trump building a coalition to beat their candidate Clinton? Problem, big problem so let the lies, smears and games begin.

        What if Hill has to run against Donald?? Horrors!

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      • deqwik2 says:

        They’re crying cause Jeb is not looking good & the debate made Cruz gain more points with Trump & Carson still in the lead….oh the nightmare.

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      • Notmeagain says:

        The Uniparty depends on the media. The candidates managed to get somewhat unified against the media. That makes them all “populists.” Backfire for the plan to goad the outsiders using a third party. That’s what Reince is crying over, the moderators failed and even the handpicked audience saw it.

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    • Optimistic says:

      Another thing that needs to be addressed is the monopoly that doesn’t allow for livestreaming to a wider audience. I hope the presidential debates are not so narrowly proscribed.

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    • El Torito says:

      Reince reminds me of the young corporate climber. Wants you to believe he’s in your corner and supports you. But deep down you know he’s selling you out to please his masters.

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      In the latest piece I read, Rinse whined that there was to be one ‘conservative’ on the panel…’they promised’ he whinged. Well, then WHY THE HECK didn’t you pitch a fit the moment the mod panel was announced?

      Why not pitch a fit when CNBC violated their own 3% rule and ’rounded up’ Kaisch and maybe Christie to include them on the main debate stage?

      Rinse is useless. He is either in on the plot, or so terminally stupid, he doesn’t deserve his job.

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  9. G says:

    My wife said, and I agree, this ended up being a ‘Job Interview for VP and Cabinet Posts’ for all to work for President Donald Trump. Makes sense after Cruz shut down the cra$ from moderators…..

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    • amjean says:

      Good point. Donald Trump was the only one who
      looked and acted presidential. The rest know that
      they are only wannabe’s, so they are going for the
      second job, the VP spot.

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    • NVA Patriot says:

      G, Your wife is brilliant – I think that is the BEST summation of this debate I have see.

      To all my fellow tree house inhabitants thank you. Intelligence in a sea of concentrated stupid

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  10. TycheSD says:

    Trump needs to get clear whether he agrees with Jeff Sessions on legal immigration or not. Does he agree with his own white paper on immigration or not? I started supporting this man because he talked tough on immigration. He’s tough on illegal immigration but we don’t need the kind of legal immigration that Mark Zuckerberg and other employers want. They want to replace Americans with foreign workers. That’s all there is to it. Is that what Trump wants??

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    • amjean says:

      Read his policy papers, watch every speech and you
      will see the answer. Don’t let the headlines at
      Breitbart influence you. And here is a hint: Many
      website headlines don’t even match the written
      words in the article as far as content. The headlines
      are meant to inflame.

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      • mnlakes says:

        I agree with your comment 100%. The only thing I would add is that Breitbart is being very deceiving about their support for Trump. I think I am going to go post that on every article they have up today.

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    • nightmare on k st says:

      Looks to me that Trump has the nomination sown up and he is wanting to appear Presidential, and soften some of the more harsh edges as he has to put up his stuff against Hillary

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      • Tonawanda says:

        I think we have to expect Trump to trim some sails (just as Reagan did). That shows he is a prudent man. I would be very surprised if he sells out, but we must necessarily have some faith, just as any voter for any candidate must.

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    • John Hall says:

      Trump is a negotiator. Full stop. He’ll ask for deporting 11 million illegals, a wall, and Mexico to pay for it. He might just settle on deporting criminals, the wall and Mexico paying for it.

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      • jello333 says:

        Exactly. Trump is NOT some mean, uncaring person like the haters make him out to be. I’m certain he has NO desire to hurt decent Mexican immigrants, legal or not, he just wants to START fixing the problem we obviously have. And yes, the worst is the criminal element, and making sure no more illegals come in until something can be done to sort out the ones already here. I’m sure Donald has a much more detailed (and “workable”) plan than what we’ve heard so far.

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      See the exclusive Breitbart interview from yesterday. He’s good. All his positions are PRO-American. He’s ok w/ a brain drain by accepting best/brightest US uni grads. (Think WWII. Was a BOON for the US) Not all foreign grads from US uni’s. Big difference.

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  11. haypa2haypa2 says:

    I found the debate more substantive than the last 2 debates; after Cruz knocked some sense into the mods. I wonder if the next debates are going to be the candidates vs MSM mods. It was entertaining.

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  12. Steve in Greensboro says:

    I never watch political debates. The moderators are usually commie shills for the Democrat party and the “information density” is too low. 2-3 hours to learn what a politician’s favorite color is? Nope.

    But I will say that before I cancelled my cable subscription 3 years ago, one of the last programs I watched regularly was Larry Kudlow’s CNBC program. Kudlow is a smart guy and I usually learned something from him.

    But he would have guests like Jared Bernstein (economic advisor to Slow Joe Biden), David Goodfriend (member of the Clinton Crime Family) and our debate moderator, John Harwood. They were all economic ignoramuses, commies brought on the show to “debate” Kudlow from a commie perspective.

    John Harwood always looked and sounded to me as if he had just burnt a doobie immediately before going on the air. I wonder if he sounded like that last night. But not enough to actually watch the video.

    Kudlow did have some very complimentary things to say about Trump’s tax plan (which looks very good to me too).

    But as I have said many times before, even if Trump were wrong about taxation and many other things, he is 100% right about immigration and that is the most important thing.

    Trump/Cruz 2016.

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  13. francesmuldoon says:

    What I find fascinating is that, Trump, if nothing else has shown the others how to grow some balls. In times past, no debate candidate would dare demand that the time be shortened. No debate candidate would dare criticize the moderators or network. I look to see more of this from the other candidates as they understand that this is the type of leadership the public wants. Kasich showed some balls, as did Cruz. Watch for future debates to be more in line with the candidates demands, than the network’s…or they just won’t show up!

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  14. I think the appallingly rude moderators energized the candidates & showed some of them to be very strong. Donald Trump was simply ignored most of the night & insulted with ridiculous questions, which he handled like swatting flies. Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio & Chris Christie impressed me. Carly Fiorina’s spiel is getting irritatingly repetitive. Jeb Bush looked … scared, rattled & nervous, I actually felt sorry for him. John Kasich droning on about how he was the author & the architect of the last balanced budget…. excuse me, but what about Speaker Newt Gingrich, if anyone gets top billing for that, it’s him. Ben Carson did well but I don’t want him to be our nominee. I want Trump!

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    • JRD says:

      I want nothing to do with corrupt, “Bought and Paid For” Marco Rubio. We Floridians who elected him are well aware of how well he talks but how corrupt he votes.

      Walk away from corruption.

      Marco Rubio is The District of Corruption’s poster boy. He is ethically bankrupt and will say or do anything to attain wealth and power. He cares about nothing but Marco Rubio.

      He wants to be Hillary Clinton when he grows up. He sold his soul. “For Sale” is permanently etched on his balding forehead.

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  15. BigTideFan says:

    I like Cruz more & more & more.

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  16. facebkwallflower says:

    I just don’t get it; Carson in second. The man slurs when he talks and constantly looks down ( concentrating not to say “uhm”?) and when he does engage eye contact, it is obvious it is something he is concentrating on to actually do. So, he slurs and talks lazily and is called deliberate with his words, serious, and soft-spoken. He closes his eyes constantly when answering questions, something he does not do when giving speeches and it increases when answers are different than ones he gave in the past. He admits in this debate he did not know about a very important subject and thus, changed his mind because he now has studied and researched a lot on it and now knows. Huh? A couple of weeks, if that is really study? Gimme a break. Now, excuse me but he should have known where he stood before he started to think he was presidential material. But, even with this,he will be seen positively, “He is so honest and so humble see how he admitted he is still learning. Trump would never admit he was wrong.” Like, I can’t believe people really are buying this sheetski from him. WHY would anyone want someone still learning in office over someone that is an expert????? I. Just. Don’t. Get. It.

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    • nightmare on k st says:

      There are a lot of humble people in the job of cleaning toilets for a living, why Peter Principle, Carson.

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    • WHY would anyone want someone still learning in office over someone that is an expert?????

      That’s a very good question to ask of any Carson supporter. I gave one such critter in the family, so (a couple of moths ago) I asked him why he supports Carson. His answer was that je likes Trump because of his demonstrated leadership abilities, but he supports Carson because he views him as being another outsider who has not been corrupted by DC politics, and (also) because Carson is more cautious about what he says (meaning he thinks Carson will be less likely utter rhetoric that could ignite another war).

      Personally, I believe that anyone who takes the POTUS job will have some serious OJT to do, so I don’t necessarily think Carson’s lack of knowledge on a single issue would be that big of a deal. But his stances on the issues which he claims to be informed on are a different matter. That, and the nature of some of his associates and advisers. Armstrong Williams comes to mind here. As does Carson’s recent adoration for Al Sharpton:

      Last week, I had the pleasure of speaking at the National Action Network’s (NAN) 17th annual national convention in New York City. NAN is one of the leading civil-rights organizations in the United States. It was founded in 1991 by the Reverend Al Sharpton to “promote a modern civil rights agenda that includes the fight for one standard of justice, decency and equal opportunities for all people regardless of race, religion, nationality or gender.”

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  17. JohnBoy says:

    Someone should tell Donald Trump to offer Carson the Vice President slot.

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  18. NJF says:

    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!

    Flipping thru all the channels, and some political hack on MSNBC just stated “we probably should have a brokered convention.”

    Holy crap….i mean this obviously has been the goal, but they’re bringing it up pretty early. Clearly they don’t think they can knock out Trump…

    It’s time for the silent majority to “put a bullet in” the GOPe.

    Trump will eventually have to go nuclear in exposing this BS.

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  19. Representative Press says:

    What happened to “let the market decide?” I thought you guys were big on allowing the market to dictate policy and impact our lives. How do you guys rationalize what CNBC (a business channel) doing is anything other than the result of market forces? I notice all the complaints about the questions asked but not a single suggestion or proposal to improve the situation. If you want a fair system then all the questions should be selected and voted on by the American people but of course the powers that be don’t want that because it would then be a reflection of the will of the people.

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    • Jett Black says:

      You haven’t read many of the comments, then. There have been several suggesting specific, intellectually honest and diverse potential questioners/moderators as well as particular topics, such as debt, Chinese currency issues, etc. Your idea of a “market” question selection process doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, but maybe there is a way to put out a list of questions or topics on social media for “the people” to vote on. That would be an interesting approach and one that might let really smart, “plugged-in” candidates, like Trump shine.

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      • Representative Press says:

        I was talking about the candidates bitching about the questions. And I started to look over the transcript about the supposed “bias” and found Ted Cruz complaining in the transcript but having just read the prior questions I could see CRUZ WAS FABRICATING THE EXAMPLES OF “BIAS.” I did a Google search and found I wasn’t the only one to realize that Cruz was simply lying when he started his complaints such as “”Donald Trump, are you a comic book villain? Ben Carson, can you do math? …” I had just read the questions asked of Trump and Carson and that was not asked! So before many here fall for Cruz’s deception, look at what was actually asked. And as I said, when I googled those things I saw articles written making the same conclusion: “Ted Cruz’s best moment of the Republican debate was also completely wrong” http://www.vox.com/2015/10/28/9633420/ted-cruz-republican-debate
        So come on guys, you think a candidate should just be allowed to bluff and lie his way into nomination?

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        • Great Kabuki says:

          Wake up, this is a rigged game, like the umpire looking the other way or the butcher with his thumb on the scale. The original CNBC press release issued in January 2015 said this:

          ENGLEWOOD CLIFFS, N.J., January 16, 2015—CNBC, First in Business Worldwide, today announced that the network was selected by the Republican National Committee to host the definitive Presidential debate on the economy in the pivotal state of Colorado in October 2015. The CNBC debate will focus on the key issues that matter to all voters—jobs, taxes, the deficit and the health of our national economy.

          “We are honored to once again be selected to host this vital conversation. The U.S. economy, jobs and our nation’s position in the world has always been and will continue to be, for a majority of voters, at the center of their decision-making process when they cast their vote,” said Mark Hoffman, CNBC President. “Our daily mission across all platforms is to elicit direct answers to substantive questions and we are committed to work hard in this debate to do exactly that.”

          Jobs, taxes, the deficit and the health of our national economy? How did that go? This is the real fantasy football game.

          Here are the questions asked of the candidates. To keep things simple, I’ve broken them down by candidate and translated them into shorter versions that more accurately reflect the true intent of the questioners.

          To All the candidates
          • Hello losers, what’s your biggest weakness?

          To Rubio (6)
          • Aren’t you too young?
          • Don’t you hate your job?
          • Aren’t you too immature and irresponsible to be president?
          • You managed your own money poorly. Aren’t you a real loser?
          • Don’t you want to undercut hiring and wages for highly qualified Americans?
          • Aren’t you lying about your tax plan?

          To Carson (6)
          • Don’t you understand that your lousy low tax rates will create more deficits?
          • Why shouldn’t the government control drug prices?
          • Aren’t you a flaming hypocrite for serving on a board that loves gay people?
          • Don’t you have bad judgment because your picture is on a company’s website that you gave a speech to?
          • Aren’t you a big hypocrite when it comes to government subsidies?
          • Aren’t you’re a moron for proposing people use health savings accounts?

          To Trump (5)
          • Aren’t you a clown running a comic book campaign?
          • You went bankrupt. Why should voters every believe anything you say?
          • Do you think Rubio or Zuckerberg is a bigger idiot?
          • Shouldn’t you let all your employees carry weapons in the workplace?
          • Aren’t you a moron if you think you don’t have to cut entitlements?

          To Kasich (4)
          • Who are the crazy candidates that you hate?
          • Shouldn’t you support more corporate hand-outs with the Ex-Im Bank?
          • Shouldn’t you legalize pot in Ohio to bring in more money?
          • What will you do to give everybody a free ride in college?

          To Bush (4)
          • Aren’t Republicans know-nothings?
          • Should the coach still put you in for some vague question you were asked four years ago about tax increases and budget cuts?
          • Why are you going to screw poor people by lowering capital gains taxes?
          • Isn’t fantasy football gambling that needs to be controlled by the government?

          To Fiorina (4)
          • Why did the HP board fire you?
          • Isn’t one of your defenders a nut?
          • Shouldn’t we tax sales on the internet?
          • Shouldn’t the government make companies set up 401K’s for employees?

          To Cruz (3)
          • You oppose raising the debt limit so you’re not a problem solver are you?
          • I only get paid 77% as much as a man. What are you going to do to help me get a raise?
          • What do you think about the Fed?

          To Paul (3)
          • Do you oppose the new budget deal because it doesn’t cut enough?
          • What do you think about the Fed?
          • Was Ronald Reagan right that Medicare was socialism?

          To Christie (3)
          • Aren’t you trying to rob senior citizens of their Social Security?
          • Shouldn’t we jail more corporate executives?
          • What are we going to do about global warming?

          To Huckabee (2)
          • What will you do about income inequality?
          • Does Trump have the moral authority to be president?

          Of 41 questions, there were zero on jobs, one on the deficit, two on the economy, and six on taxes. The other 32 questions were gotcha, personal attack questions, cribbed directly from DNC Headquarters (still at the Watergate?). Of course, it backfired because for a brief moment in time, eight of the ten candidates actually seemed to work together to beat back these left wing hacks/Demo operatives. All of them, except Bush and Kasich, seemed to actually see what was going on.

          This is the real war a conservative must engage in and win. And it’s time to pick sides. The media has finally openly declared war on me and every conservative; the more people that understand this reality, the more open the process you allude to will be.

          Let’s get a fair game!

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          • Representative Press says:

            “translated them”? Stop playing games and deal with the actual questions that were asked. What the heck happened to personal responsibility and integrity? Isn’t that what you claim is the cornerstone of your politics? Instead you seem to think this is a game where you must BS talk for your favorite team. Listen, CNBC is a business channel and to claim that they are “liberal” is dishonest. Stop blindly making excuses for con men. I am not the only one who saw the dishonest game Cruz was playing. The candidates were asked substantive questions, Cruz fabricated questions and launched into his dishonest media criticism in order to dodge the question he was asked!

            “Cruz himself was also asked a substantive question. The moderators asked why he was opposing a bipartisan budget deal that would avert a debt ceiling crisis, a Medicare crisis, and a Social Security Disability Insurance crisis. Rather than answer that question, he attacked the moderators for refusing to ask substantive questions, during which he pretended a slew of unusually substantive questions were trivial political attacks.” http://www.vox.com/2015/10/28/9633420/ted-cruz-republican-debate

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            • Great Kabuki says:

              First, I re-wrote the questions in an mildly amusing way to cut thru the BS to elicit what I think they really meant. If you don’t like it, go back and read the entire transcript like I did…it’s readily available.

              If you think the talent that works for CNBC isn’t liberal (with a few rare exceptions) you are willingly blind. This isn’t the “play it straight” talent from the 90’s. Go read anything Jim Cramer has ever written; he is at least honest about his liberal politics. It’s group think to a large degree. I know of what I speak.

              I guess the real question is what the real purpose of one of these debates actually is? Sell ads at $250K each? Check. Deliver a big audience? Check. But if it was to elicit real information to compare and contrast the candidates, this was a fail by any objective standard regardless of your politics. These folks had a clear agenda. The vast majority of the 41 questions were so poorly constructed or framed as “so when did you stop beating your wife” that they don’t deserve much respect. If the purpose is to show how bright, shiny, and amazingly clever the talent is, then I guess it’s a big win for CNBC. They were honestly ill prepared and wanted to become part of the story. Becky Quick’s performance in regards to the Trump / Zuckerberg questioning was so pathetically bad it was a joke. She had the right facts, no doubt from a staffer, but was so poorly prepared she asked him where she got the information! WTF?? C’mon, that’s so minor league (from a professional point of view) that it’s embarrassing. Also, any fair and objective journalist (how they promote themselves) should never become the story. So what was this about the day after? Them.

              They hectored, interrupted and talked over the candidates. By any standard, that’s ridiculous. And unprofessional. They were the ones driving the clown car this time around not the candidates. And it backfired big time.

              Bottom line: The RNC got duped…again. And now the candidates are taking matters into their own hands. Viva la revolucion!

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              • Representative Press says:

                “poorly prepared”? By your own admission what Becky Quick asked Trump was accurate and Trump lied. And by asking Trump “Where did I read this” it gave another opportunity to expose Trump as a liar or incompetent. Perhaps she didn’t expect Trump to deny what he has has written on his won website BUT in that same debate she did return to that very issue and informed him ” I found where I read that before. It was from the donaldjtrump.com” Trump didn’t acknowledge that her question was correct, he ignored the fact that he denied saying what is written on his own website. Why do you feel the need to spin things for these liars and fault the moderators who had to deal with them?

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                • jello333 says:

                  Dude, sorry but Hillary is gonna get destroyed by Trump in the General. Recall first that I’m a lifelong Dem, and that I STUPIDLY supported Scum Obama in ’08. Also, I don’t like any of the other Repub candidates, but I’m strongly behind Trump. I also like Bernie, but there’s a few things I’m not happy about, and even if I was, once Donald got into the race it’s CRYSTAL CLEAR that he has far more leadership potential than Hillary and Bernie combined. (Hillary is just Obama 2.0 anyway.) So try not to get too stressed over the coming months. It’s gonna become more and more obvious that Donald Trump WILL be the next president… and that’s a good thing. Relax.

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                • Representative Press says:

                  Don’t assume I support Hillary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7MAJVcsghQ

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                • jello333 says:

                  Okay cool… and nice video. (BTW, I like Mike Gravel.)

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            • Great Kabuki says:

              One other point I forgot to mention in my earlier response. You never mentioned that the original premise of my post was that the CNBC debate was supposed to be about jobs and the economy. The facts are that not a single question from these brainiacs was about jobs. So the Business Network didn’t even bother to re-read their own press release for their reason for being. Oops.

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              • Representative Press says:

                I have the transcript bookmarked and I can search it. Here is a question about jobs: “HARWOOD: Governor John Kasich, you’ve called for abolishing the Export Import Bank, which provides subsidies to help American companies compete with overseas competitors. You call that corporate welfare.

                One of the largest newspapers in your state wrote an editorial, said they found that strange, writing, that if that’s corporate welfare, what does Kasich call the millions of dollars in financial incentives doled out to attract or retain jobs by his development effort — jobs Ohio.

                If subsidies are good enough for Ohio companies, why aren’t they good enough for companies trying to compete overseas?”
                So why do you continue to insist on things that are not true?

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                • Great Kabuki says:

                  You are correct the word jobs did appear in his boring question. Congratulations!

                  Of course, you miss my entire point: why didn’t they ask candidates many more in-depth questions about 92 million people so discouraged out of the workforce, falling wages, urban unemployment over 40%, jobs not available for those graduating from college, the role of technology replacing workers, the minimum wage, the effects of trade policy, etc? Why waste time on these critical issues when it’s important to focus on trivial things like if Rubio cashed in his IRA or whether Trump’s campaign is a “comic book”? CNBC is the one who broke their promise of what the content would be, not me. And not the candidates.

                  The purpose of any public forum like this should be to help educate and illuminate. Honestly, I don’t know who I would vote for if I had to do so today: I am truly undecided among these candidates. But how you defend this joke of a process (this debate) is beyond bizarre. If this is the new standard for journalism, then I think the next Dem debate should include insightful questions like these:

                  Secretary Clinton, it is well known that the former President Clinton, your husband, is a serial womanizer. It was reported by your former nemesis, now ally, David Brock, that you were in charge of Bimbo eruptions in the 1990’s. Please explain to our viewers what your role was in your husband’s war on women. And can you guarantee us that he won’t embarrass you, or the nation, in the event you are elected?

                  Or maybe this one:

                  Senator Sanders, as an avowed Socialist, many people have seen photos of you wearing a Che Guvera t-shirt at a May Day rally. I wonder if you agree with the following statement by Che: ‘My ideological training means that I am one of those people who believe that the solution to the world’s problems is to be found behind the Iron Curtain.” And were you aware that in 1960 he invented Cuba’s first corrective work camp,’ what is also called a slave labor camp or gulag?”

                  If this is the new standard, then bring it on!

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  20. Rancid Pubis is SO upset about the CNBC crew that the next time they call about hosting a debate, Rancid won’t pick up the phone until the 4th ring.

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  21. zelda says:

    Why do the Republicans continue to let this happen? Yes, this is the worst it has ever been, but it happens every year. The Republicans always allow the left to moderate the debates and subject their candidates to this type of abuse. Next time, the candidates should just walk off the stage. I hope Trump and Carson decide to pass on the next debate if the moderators are leftists.

    Just wait until the Presidential debate. It will be more of the same with the left as moderators. We will be seeing another Candy Crowley.

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  22. Steve in Greensboro says:

    How about this idea? I don’t think Trump likes these debates, nor does Carson. I think if those two could convince Cruz, the three of them could boycott the remaining umpteen debates. The three of them comprise 60% of the voters in the most recent polls.

    The remaining single-digit candidates candidates (OK, Rubio is 11% — so sue me 🙂 could hold their own GOPe debates with whatever mainstream media Democrat shills they want to.

    At the same time as the GOPe debates, Trump, Cruz and Carson could hold a real 3-way anti-GOPe discussion about the real issues. Perhaps someone like Mark Levin could moderate. I mention Levin, because 1) he is smart, 2) he is anti-GOPe like the three candidates and 3) I trust him.

    That I might actually watch. And Americans might actually learn something.

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  23. dodo says:

    The moderators were trying to divert attention from the fact that the democrats are dead wrong on immigration, and Trump is 100% right on immigration, IMO. Immigration is terrifying those who have come in contact with these dangerous “migrants”

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  24. Trent Telenko says:

    An interesting pro-Cruz comment at this link —

    http://therightscoop.com/boom-frank-luntzs-focus-group-really-loved-ted-cruz/

    “One note I learned this morning on the Cruz campaign and how organized he is. Only candidate running that has a county election supervisor set up in every county of the first six states voting. Go Cruz!”

    I don’t think I have heard similar regards Rubio or Carson. Nor any of the “5%-ers”.

    There are a lot of implications in this, beyond Cruz outlasting Jeb Bush in the primaries, that is.

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    • facebkwallflower says:

      I recently quit rightscoop because any expose’ on Carson by thoughtful readers seem to disappear and those poster are never to be seen again. The only time they let anti-Carson comments are if the comment is outrageous and at same time identifying as Trump supporter to make it look like Trump supporters are haters. How convenient that one of the posters that put up some good docs and info on Carson and also some commentary with insight were removed before the debate so now now more expose stuff about him not being exactly upfront about his involvement in the glyconutrient company. So, all those Carsonites are still booing the only time the mods got it correct during the debate. If anyone hasn’t been kicked off there, go try and get up the videos and links with him just loving the product and the company. In fact he loves it so much and knows them to spout off their mutual pet charity.

      As to Cruz, good for him having someone in every county but planning is no good if not effective. With that level of “force” there should be a bigger Cruz imprint going into this debate and if he gets a bump it is because of the debate exposure and not from the effectiveness of his ground troops. Is that how his government plans will work? Sort of the same thing with his battles; he chooses noble battles but if change is not the result of his fighting than what was the point? I suppose if the point is to be seen as an outsider for running for president then the battle was won. Yet, the war booty was establishment, as in non-outsider, donor base. So, he is a planner but not one that gets it done. He has no success getting things done in DC, when it comes right down to it and it is now to the point that when he shouts from the rooftops many, including his colleagues, just hear the boy crying wolf again. Really too bad he has wasted the gift of being a Senator by focusing on being president. If he had not stopped in the middle of the fight he may have just made some headway. He went to Washington, started a war, fought a few battles, and did not follow through until win. Now that is a record I don’t want to see attached to our CIC. America has had enough of not being in it to win. He should have stayed working and fighting right where he was placed, finished his term, and then ran for president based on his won wars. He walked off the battlefield. At least this is one way to look at it.

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    • jello333 says:

      I doubt Cruz has much serious thought of beating Donald… but he’s obviously got SOMETHING planned. I know there’s a lot of talk that Trump should take him as his running-mate, so I suppose it could be that, or something else altogether.

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  25. Jeff says:

    The debates are just circus
    So does the Rover splitter play move over to Marco Water Boy now ? Or is the installation of Raul Rino Ryan enough to stop Trump and give Republicommies a block to President Trump ?

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  26. manickernel says:

    Wow. He doesn’t hold back. (Sorry if this has already been posted elsewhere)

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    • Buck Weaver says:

      That’s a retweet, right? Trump seems to have a different way of retweeting than anyone else.

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    • Representative Press says:

      But “How to break this disagreement? By going to the fossil record. Here’s a Sept. 30 press release from CNBC announcing the terms of the debate. The money line comes in the middle of the release: “Those candidates will take the stage at 8PM ET for two hours of debate.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2015/10/28/trump-beats-chest-over-length-of-cnbc-debate/ So it was always going to be 2 hours.
      “An CNBC spokesperson confirmed the initial plan was for 2 hours of debate time plus 14 minutes of commercial time.”
      But by Trump math that would supposedly be 3 to 3 AND A HALF HOURS! Trump claimed “Everybody said it was going to be three hours, three-and-a-half [hours], including them. And in about two minutes, I renegotiated it down to two hours so we could get the hell out of here.”
      But what Trump claimed isn’t true is it? And I note a comment from that site that points out “according to Mr. Google, the only person I find who says CNBC wanted a 3-hour debate is Trump himself.”

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      • SharonKinDC says:

        The point is, CNBC tried to pull a fast one, in a phone conference w/ the RNC and candidate reps. Made the news in multiple outlets. It was the reason WHY Trump called Carson, and they threatened a boycott. The whole point is CNBC tried to renege on their deal, worse, pitch it as a done deal…and Rinse wasn’t objecting. It took the campaigns to do so.

        Methinks you are a troll..,

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        • Representative Press says:

          Trump CLAIMS what you said but there is no proof and the things that we can read show Trump was no more truthful about the “3 to 3 and half hour debate” than he was about what he about Zuckerberg ON HIS OWN WEBSITE! What made the news was Trump’s claims. There is nothing we can find to support his claims. a Sept. 30 press release from CNBC which we can read said ” two hours of debate.” “An CNBC spokesperson confirmed the initial plan was for 2 hours of debate time plus 14 minutes of commercial time.” Don’t call me a troll just because I am pointing out facts you don’t like. If there is proof to back up Trumps claims I will be happy to read it.

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  27. ctmom says:

    Rubio needs to find out what is going on in his own home state regarding H1B visas. Maybe talk to the Disney IT employees who are training their Indian replacements.

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  28. pageoturner says:

    Jeb Campaign hits panic button: http://dcwhispers.com/jeb-bush-campaign-hits-panic-button/

    By the way – this is a great site for inside political info.

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    • Justice_099 says:

      I’d love to see Bush out as much as anyone, but this Rubio-boosting in the media is just pathetic. Yeah, he got a jab at Jeb, but in all seriousness the media is playing up something rather mundane while completely ignoring his voting record and considering that issue ‘put to bed’ now.

      There is a reason for not only this, but for also tossing him that slow-ball right down the center about his tax policy.

      Make no mistake. It couldn’t be any more obvious what is going on.

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      • Mike says:

        First get Yebito out of the way. Then Rubio will fade or capsize on his record and positions, if not skills, while against Cruz, Trump and Carson. As a young senator, Cruz is the anti-Rubio factor for direct comparison.

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      • jello333 says:

        As Sundance has said, this is the game they’re gonna play the rest of the way. If they can’t bump Jeb! to top, they’ll try one “upstart” after another to try to deflate Trump. Even if they have to lie and fake it at every turn, where that “upstart” is concerned. It’s been Carson for awhile now… and now it’s time to add little Marco.

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    • jello333 says:

      HA! During that confrontation between Bush and Rubio over missing votes, I hadn’t noticed Donald jumping in at the end. You can barely hear him, but he says something like, “I told you they didn’t like each other, didn’t I?” 😀

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  29. Juan says:

    This just in …. CNBC has filed for approval to change their call letters to better reflect on who they are . They now wish to be known as CDNC to accurately describe their agenda.

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  30. Redware says:

    So will the bleeder be moderating the next FOX debate? Why doesn’t Priebus tell FOX who the RNC wants as moderators and threaten to cancel it if he doesn’t get his way.Oh wait,better let Trump do it! Priebus had his chance.

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  31. TwoLaine says:

    Yesterday they made fun of TRUMP, immediately, for this.
    Today it is all anyone is talking about.
    Including hypocritical outrage from Faux..
    TRUMP, Right AGAIN!!!!!
    Leading the way!

    And, he TRUMPed them all in the debate polls, AGAIN!

    He’s Unstoppable! 😉

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  32. Athena the Warrior says:

    Here is the video showing why CNBC wouldn’t ask Trump any serious economic questions. Watch how easily he commands the topic of currency manipulation and trade (scroll down for Trump: Currency Manipulation:

    http://www.cnbc.com/top-video/

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  33. manickernel says:

    For those that missed the debate, you missed seeing Jeb end it for himself. That alone was worth catching.

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  34. JunieG says:

    Do we have any information on ratings?

    I listened last night on internet radio, and caught a few pirated broadcasts until they were shut down. Is CNBC the only place to watch it? That is disappointing.

    So badly moderated, a disgrace and a farce. Never so glad I cut cable years ago. I miss it not. I will not throw a penny their way.

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  35. Lea says:

    Yesterday, right after I mailed a postcard to Mr. Trump,
    I posted this on CNBC’s facebook page (not as eloquent as SD would have written, but…)

    Last night’s debate questions asked of presidential candidates where more sophomoric than is asked at a high school class presidential debate. It was deplorable. The only reason these ‘debates’ are being held is to bump the ratings of the alphabet soup news networks so they can charge more for their commercial time slots. They do not add anything to the candidates campaign, nor to the voting publics ability to make an informed decision when it is time to vote. The networks are the only ones to gain from these productions.
    In closing, these televised debates along with their moderators, for both the Republican and Democrat parties have all been disgraces to America and her people.
    SHAME ON YOU!

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  36. denison4 says:

    Santelli is a decent person, probably the most astute one on CNBC when it comes to stocks and bonds. Cramer gets most of the attention and when he doesn’t he has a hissy fit about something to get cameras back on him again. Nobody there gives better advice on what’s actually happening in the economy than Santelli. I thought surely the CNBC business people would hold a decent debate, and was surprised when they turned out to be worse than the other moderators. Santelli I suspect felt embarassed being there when he saw how the other moderators were acting. Here’s a ranking of them, I’d have put Santelli at the top, but I realize Cramer has a daytrading fan club which is probably why he got first place in this ranking.
    http://freebeacon.com/blog/cnbc-debate-moderators-ranked/
    Other than those two, this ranking is the same as mine, and I’m glad Harwood was at the bottom, he was dripping bigoted and hateful vitriolic poison, barely able to contain himself till he lost it by lying about Trump, as if it was his job to argue with Trump and try and win it with an obvious lie. Reminded me of Dan Rather, but worse.

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