A Confluence of Associated Political Interests….

Many patriotic vulgarians are unnecessarily concerned about recent predictable polling from the state of Iowa showing the vulgarian candidate Donald Trump being replaced as frontrunner by the soft-spoken Evangelical Ben Carson.

Toward those concerned voices we would simply proffer the following reminder:

Remove Donald Trump in 2015/16 and Ben Carson becomes Herman Cain, Ted Cruz becomes Newt Gingrich, and Jeb Bush positions comfortably as Mitt Romney circa 2012.

It really is that simple.

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The entire construct of the RNC/GOPe political scheme has been, and continues to be, a Clinton VS Bush general election battle.  The only consideration amid the affluent puppeteers is who gets to play the role of Bush, either Jeb or Marco Rubio will do just fine.

Any reader can review the annals of CTH historical research to find out for themselves why we chose to engage in a rather lengthy and controversial, albeit factually and empirically sound, analysis of what’s been going on amid the political landscape for several election cycles.

It was, at least initially, more of a curiosity exploration, than a desire to out the machinations of political powers; in part because we, the collective grouping of our association, have always held a firm grip on acceptance for ‘what is’ and strenuously fought against allowing various agenda-filled media presentations to filter our views. Such became the initial quest to find out what motives lay behind those who sell us candidates.

It was also from this reference we discovered the larger, much larger, agenda of the globalists and corporate media types that hold no affinity toward Main Street U.S.A.

Candidate Jeb Bush attends Chamber of Commerce dinner with Fox's Rupert Murdoch and Valerie Jarrett (December 2014)

Candidate Jeb Bush attends Chamber of Commerce dinner with Fox’s Rupert Murdoch and Valerie Jarrett (December 2014)

In rather serendipitous timing, our discoveries of the motives behind the candidates came shortly before the entry of Donald Trump into the 2016 race.  Thus, it became easy to support his candidacy because quite simply there’s nothing to lose.

Without Trump in the race, the Globalist, Wall Street, Corporate Media and RNC/GOPe delivery of Jeb Bush would ultimately be the outcome.  All they had/have to do is follow the exact same plan which worked in 2012.  The electorate, including us, unknowing of the Potemkin Village landscape, would simply follow along the yellow brick road pre-paved with the intentions of interests unseen.  Not a big deal.

When we fully understand this reality, we simultaneously also understand why Donald Trump entered the 2016 presidential race.   Like us, you, Trump sees the Potemkin construct and said “enough”, “someone’s got to get in this race to change the outcome”.

Step one in Trump’s campaign was to tear down the facade of the Village in order to awaken a larger understanding of who is actually behind these constructs.

Thus, Trump was immediately effective at exposing the deceivers amid our own ranks. Immediately Donald Trump drew inbound fire from those who hold a vested interest in retention of the ruse and maintenance of the path.

“You can’t build a border wall” the conservative pundits shouted.  You also can’t stop amnesty, block anti-US trade deals, unhook our economy from the anchor of ObamaCare, stop Iran from nuclear weapons, and/or point out we haven’t had a budget in seven years.

Wait, these are conservatives?

Wow, who knew?  Here was a massive crowd following along the Potemkin path without actually knowing the corporate media types were in on the globalist scheme all along.

All of a sudden the conservative freedom movement was faced with a reality that Megyn Kelly, Charles Krauthammer et al, are simply playing a distracting role while meeting back stage with the Clinton’s, Murdoch’s and worse, for crustless sandwiches and high-fives.

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Just stop this nonsense speak“, was the argument from Jonah Goldberg and those he calls his “politically savvy people“.  “Fall back in line”, move along, and pay no attention to the vulgarian noisemaker – we’ve got a Bush/Rubio to promote….

…And now?

Do you really think those goals change just because an awakening has surfaced?  Not hardly !  They just need to add a level of depth to the facade in order to retain the ruse.

It was only two weeks ago (October 7th) when we pointed out the Quinnipiac poll lead-in.  Remember this: “Stunningly Transparent Observation Bias”

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[…]  It is my hope that Democrats, Republicans and Independents can pause the “us -vs- them” activity for a moment, take a breath, look around and recognize we are all seemingly inside a manufactured political maze.  Then, perhaps contemplate just how controlled this entire fiasco is.

As we have previously stated there are trillions of dollars, and immense national and global power interests, at play within this election.  As each week passes, and absent of Wall Street gaining safety in their preferred outcome, the rabid control mechanisms are pushed into overdrive to tame the vulgarians on both sides of the political spectrum.

(#1) The lead of any print article/outline focuses the attention of the reader toward the content that follows.  Look at the very first mention within the outline provided to give an analysis of the data.  “Ben Carson and Joe Biden” ?

Joe Biden isn’t even a candidate, and the analysis appears to be skipping over the entire reason for conducting a ranking poll (ie. Candidates: Donald Trump et al, Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton etc.) and going straight into a general election discussion about Ben Carson and Joe Biden.  WTF?

(#2)  …”Looking past the nominations“… What the heck?   We don’t even know the outcome (data) of the surveys within this PRIMARY POLL, and the analysis is saying essentially: well, lets just skip over the pesky facts and get to what we really want to talk about… etc.  Whereas those “pesky facts” are the entire reason for conducting a survey.

Where does the voter support for the candidates line up in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania?  Not only did the lead in say they want to skip the substance to get to a conclusion, but now the analysis says you haven’t seen our results yet, but lets look past it. WTF?

(#3) Those who are waiting for Donald Trump’s campaign to collapse…” etc.  What the heck?  Talk about wanting to display a bias, and simultaneously drum up up a self-fulfilling headline.    This presentation is so completely filled with over-the-top observational bias it’s almost jaw dropping.  (link)

So does it really surprise you to see a Quinnipiac poll, two weeks later, promoted from Iowa (polling methodology excluded for some weird reason) which now shows Ben Carson leading Donald Trump?


If this surprises anyone who reads here, you should probably run away.  The political Potemkin Village doesn’t sell here any more than the facade of a 12-year-old picture of Trayvon Martin, or a sold Potemkin narrative of Dorian Johnson and the “hand’s up don’t shoot” ruse.

We don’t cotton to the gaslighting, and darn sure don’t fall victim to it.

So let’s digest a few Uni-Party realities to help understand the current landscape:

A TIME analysis of Federal Election Commission records indicates that, while donors to Barack Obama in 2012 have largely transferred their support to Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney’s donors are divided in their support of the 2016 hopefuls. While those donors favor Jeb Bush, having given the former Florida governor more than $5.4 million since through Sept. 30, they are also giving Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Ben Carson significant financial support.

Perhaps most surprising, more Romney money has flowed into Democrat Hillary Clinton’s coffers (more than $640,000 so far) than has been given to Republicans Rand Paul, Carly Fiorina or Chris Christie. (link)

What’s that?  Romney mega-donor supporters support Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and Ben carson?  Gee, who’da thunk?  And also have given $640,000 to Hillary Clinton?  Hmmm…  go figure.

And, to boost the overall narrative, the Des Moines Register today has come out with favorable polling for Ben Carson over Donald Trump?

Ya, don’t say.

And oh, lookie here:


Do you really think this is coincidental?

We should expect to see Frank Luntz’s group selling their post-debate analysis via Fox News on October 28th.  And given the selection of the audience, what facade do you think they’re investing their time and effort in selling?

Friends, there is a battle here in this U.S.A.

The battle is between the Global Elites (via Wall Street interests), and an entire vested corporate media who are selling one side of that internal war, VERSUS you.

Globalists -VS- Nationalists

You can fall prey to the fraud, deception and general maneuvering of those parasites who are intent on the removal of America’s exceptionalism; or you can rise up, see the deception, tear down the facade and join a vulgarian uprising.

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Television Ads – Spending So Far

Top overall spenders

  • Team Bush: $10.7 million ($10.3 million from Right to Rise Super PAC, $400K from campaign)
  • Team Kasich: $5.8 million (from two different outside groups)
  • Team Rubio: $5.5 million (all from the dark-money 501c4 Conservative Solutions Project)
  • Team Christie: $4.2 million ($3.8 million from Super PAC, $400K from campaign)
  • Team Jindal: $3.1 million (all from Super PACs)

Top spenders in Iowa

  • Team Jindal: $3.1 million
  • Team Bush: $2.8 million
  • Team Rubio: $933,000

Top spenders in New Hampshire

  • Team Bush: $6 million
  • Team Kasich: $5.8 million
  • Team Christie: $4.2 million
  • Team Rubio: $1.2 million

Top spenders in South Carolina

  • Team Bush: $1.9 million
  • Team Rubio: $715,000

bush seriousness(spending link)

Jeb Bush – […] Bush’s advisers, under pressure from their donors and from falling and stagnant poll numbers, have been discussing ways to retool the campaign in recent days, and came to the conclusion that a course correction was essential. While recent tangles with Donald Trump have energized the campaign, Bush’s senior team recognized a more fundamental set of changes was required that didn’t involve dealing directly with the party’s surprising—and surprisingly durable—front-runner.  (more)

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129 Responses to A Confluence of Associated Political Interests….

  1. beaujest says:

    How about that man of the people Slick Romney taking credit for Obamacare !


    • kallibella says:

      I know. The jerk. And do you remember the show he put on when he was running and Chief Justice Roberts gave obamacare legitimacy? Oh, didn’t Romney sound and look indignant, promising to repeal it if elected???? Oh, how I fell for that! YUK
      Now, thanks to this website I can see the sick game they play at our expense.

      Liked by 1 person

    • timmypaddy says:

      If I hear one more person compare Trump to Herman Cain I’m going to puke! Did everyone forget that Cain was carrying on an 11 year affair with a woman behind his wife’s back? When it came to light he quit the race. Trump is 100 times smarter than Cain. Trump is not Cain, he’s not Santorum, he’s not Bachman!


  2. TycheSD says:

    You forgot Club For Growth. They are taking credit for Trump’s falling poll numbers in Iowa because of their negative ads. Trump needs to combat those claims.

    Carson’s rise has come at the expense of Trump. People in Iowa are obviously looking for an outsider to win. Carson is probably more in tune with Iowa sensibilities. But he can’t possibly win. The people in Iowa need to wake up.


    • stella says:

      Iowa hasn’t been very good at gauging a winner. Santorum last time, and Huckabee the time before.

      Liked by 3 people

    • kallibella says:

      Rush Limbaugh said on today’s show that Carson has a massive and well organized Facebook presence and that he has more followers than Trump!
      I am beginning to get a very foul taste in my mouth about Carson…I think he is very stelth-y and is thus far mostly unvetted. FNC loves him; doesn’t that mean something?!

      Liked by 1 person

    • R-C says:

      All the while ONE poll is showing Trump “falling” n Iowa, he’s packing them into his rallies there. I suspect this poll was rather carefully engineered to sway the weak.

      But anyway, don’t toss your cookies over ONE poll.

      A) Trump has been in the lead NATIONWIDE for over 3 months now;
      B) Many times the polls have “proven” that Trump was “doomed”-and were ALL wrong;
      C) There is a long way to go yet–don’t react to every perceived “pothole”;
      D) Donald hasn’t spent ANYTHING on political ads as yet–“they” are throwing in “everything they’ve got”;
      E) What IS “Iowa”, anyway? Just another campaign stop, really. (I’m a NH native–“The First in the Nation Primary state. I know. In reality, it’s just another campaign stop.

      Take a breath; take it easy; Trump is fine.

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  3. Doodahdaze says:

    Carson wants to abolish medicare. OK. He will surge.


    • regedit says:

      I keep on saying time for Donald to start going after Carson
      however i hate to admit but i do like his bold approach


      • parteagirl says:

        I’m not sure Donald necessarily needs to be the one to do it. Maybe Rubio will. In any case, if the immigration issue has made Trump rise, it will also be the immigration issue that makes Carson sink.

        Liked by 4 people

      • kallibella says:

        In his rally today in Doral, FL, Trump did say that Carson was very low energy and that this country needs a high energy fighter. I think Trump will begin to hit Carson. Hopefully Trump will dig into Carson’s documented comments about different issues and hit him with that.


    • Eskie Mom says:

      How is this okay? People have been paying into this for years.


      • jello333 says:

        Not okay, not even remotely. Unless some plan is put in place that replaces Medicare with something as good or better, for EVERYONE who depends on it… just NO. Ending Medicare will literally kill people, many people. Were it not for Medicare, my own mom (now approaching 90) would have long since died.


        • woohoowee says:

          But, but medicare’s time has passed according to The Powers That BE: Now, now, says the Globalist to the flea; it’s all for the greater good, you see.

          They’re some sick puppies.

          Hi, Jello 🙂

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    • I noticed that tonight going through Carson’s Wikipedia profile and I wonder how many of the Iowans realize that Carson wants to do away with medicare? Not many I bet! Trump needs to let Iowans know that a President Carson will take away their medicare benefits. You will see support for Carson collapse.


      I also noticed that Carson has some controversial views on end-of-life care. He has questioned the wisdom of keeping people alive beyond a certain point – in essence he wants to play god. Would a President Carson institute death panels? Doesn’t seem like a Christian value to me!


      Liked by 2 people

      • dondeg says:

        He’s definitely qualified to talk about end of life issues. Probably the only issue he is the real expert on. There is no magic there. There is a thing called point of no return. No amount of hope or prayer can change it. On this issue I would take him seriously. But hell no, he is not qualified to build a wall or rebuild our infrastructure.


    • Murse says:

      Carson falls for the fallacy that people will invest in their own medical account if directed to do so. I once believed in this approach. But the reality is that many people could have purchased catastrophic insurance policies on their own but did not do so and won’t do so if they have to choose. I am with Karl Denninger regarding holding the healthcare industry accountable to anti-monopoly laws. Making healthcare affordable out-of-pocket for most people frees up billions of dollars to be used elsewhere, like infrastructure and the VA.

      For example, my HMO requires me to get an MRI at a single location, which has a retail price around $2500, of which the HMO pays the clinic $1500. The same MRI in one area of Mexico cost $100. Of course, I can guarantee you that Carson would not be willing to go down this path. Practicing medicine used to be a solid upper middle class occupation. Given political protection from anti-trust laws medicine has become a path to wealth, and one that the medical community will not give up willingly.

      More Americans seeking foreign healthcare: http://www.cmi-matamoros.com/news2.html

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    • Abolishing medicare in favor of savings accounts is a loser for Carson. How are people supposed to save for health care when so many are unemployed and under-employed? I can’t see Carson putting people back to work. He has no experience with any type of management or administration.

      Liked by 1 person

    • rodney says:

      Wow, Carson really has a tin ear. Pull the rug out of retirees, that will make him a lot of enemies.


    • oldgrunt68 says:

      Sure, he hates medicare. He is a surgeon, never gets his full pay.


  4. jrcowboy49 says:

    I believe Trump has a great opportunity to win the Republican nomination and the White House. I have no problem in his straight talking points as he is resonating with the public in a big way. He has my support over these wussy PC so-called “establishment” Republicans with no spine! He is his own man and has a platform without special interests influences. No one is the perfect candidate but I believe Trump is our best option to change what is currently wrong with America.
    Straight talking Trump current has my vote over these Republican wussies that hide behind amnesty!
    Trumps comments were correct and the truth is hard to swallow for those entering our County illegally which violates our laws and makes them criminals!
    People are basically fed up with all the romanticizing of people coming into the country illegally and going to the front of the line. When you have a government at any level that rigidly enforces every nuance of the law on its citizens, but willingly and openly bends those laws to accommodate illegal aliens, all that it does is breed cynicism toward the government and resentment of the illegal aliens who get preferred treatment.

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  5. amwick says:

    Vulgarian? Has a nice ring to it. Short, sweet, to the point! Polling statistics are a form of math, therefore unreliable. Just wait until actual votes are counted. ( If you kinda ignore that whole electoral college thing. ) The more this whole dag gummed political monster steams and strains against the Donald, the better he responds. ´Bout time.

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    • dondeg says:

      Vulgarian? Ugh. Whatever happened to plebeian? Can’t we get back to our Roman roots?


      • manickernel says:

        Keep in mind the Vandals overran the Romans. Vandals, Vulgarians, what’s in a name? 🙂


        • dondeg says:

          These libs and camouflaged communist slash socialists have turned the USA into what Rome was when it became so weak the Vandals could overrun it. Rome died from internal rot, just like what has been going on here. I really believe Trump is like an antibody for our society.

          Liked by 1 person

      • chasmaniac says:

        Vulgar : 1.lacking sophistication or good taste; unrefined

        Exactly as we are seen by the ruling elite, and I would gladly wear that description like a badge of honor. By the sorry metric those creatures measure life by an unrefined, tasteless prole is the salt of the earth !.


    • non agenda says:

      What am I missing? Polls that show Trump surging are factual, prove that he’s wanted and right. Per CTH. Poll not so good ? . . . Polling statistics are a form of math We all know how crazy math is.
      Let’s make up our minds. Debunking this poll by reciting Carson’s flaws is, in substance, OT. Not one of Sd’s best.


    • 2x4x8 says:

      the term “Vulgarians” reminds me of “Border Ruffians” who were the pro slavery anti Fed Kansas-Missouri folks, mothers were reportedly calling their babies Border Ruffians to get back at the bad press they got


  6. Rick says:

    Trump vulgarians need to take a deep breath and realize that we’re in for a long, hard fight ahead. The GOPe must silence our voices and disregard our votes!

    I think this upcoming debate will be a big event for Trump. My only concern is that he looked tired and a bit bored in debate #2. Not sharp as a tack. He has a wicked schedule ahead starting with Doral tonight and Jacksonville tomorrow, Iowa and other stops before next weeks debate. Ole Doc Carson is resting and studying. Yeb will be at a family POW-Wow this weekend in Houston reading the tea leaves for his future. NO MAS! The rest of the cast is writing “gotch” lines for Trump.

    I hope Trump will be rested for next week’s debate. HIs schedule is so hectic and it worries me that he will not be on his game if he is tired. If he can make a big showing next week he will dictate the remaining narrative and likely his #1 overall position. I think that IOWA recent sampling of less than 600 voters and Carson’s surge is not what will really happen in when the caucus happen in Iowa in January. I think Trump will turn out tens of thousands more Iowa voters than in the past.

    Go TRUMP 2016

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    • Raffaella says:

      I am concerned too about Trump’s debate performance if he is tired due to his hectic campaign schedule. Carson is so clever to be on a book tour and quietly preparing for the debate.


    • dondeg says:

      Man, if he brings us this stuff about super pacs that he said at Doral tonight, he is gonna dominate the debate. Everything else is, to use his words, “peanuts” compared to the monied interests.

      Liked by 3 people

    • parteagirl says:

      I learned several years ago that one of the differences between an introvert and an extrovert is the way you get your “battery recharged.” An introvert recharges by getting alone and an extrovert recharges by being around energetic people.

      It make sense to me that Dr Carson is more introverted, and that Trump, as an extrovert, is absolutely LOVING these rallies! I went to the Dallas rally and you could tell he was relishing the entire experience. Travel will fatigue anyone, but I love that Trump is packing in as many rallies as he can. I think they put a spring in his step!

      Liked by 3 people

  7. moogey says:

    Stop the illegal invasion. Without borders, we officially become a welfare state for any global populace that sets foot on our land. The backs of the working American people will literally be broken and America will cease to exist. There is one candidate who campaigns to close the border.

    One candidate – Trump 2016

    Liked by 7 people

    • kallibella says:

      I heard Ann Coulter say that currently we have approximately 25% of Mexico’s population in the US. Mexico’s population is around 123.7 M. That means that the US has around 31 M Mexicans living here.

      Ann Coulter explains that it is a very good example of how taking in so many people from a single country does not make us more “diverse” (the preferred word of the left), but that it makes us less genuinely American and more of something we are not, in this case Mexican.
      The other problem is that a sizable proportion are not assimilating and therefore they don’t learn English and the rest of our culture, and especially the philosophy that informs the freedom-worldview that is distinctively American. I agree with Ann in this matter. If this keeps up we will be speaking Mexican Spanish, accent, cadence and all.

      I respect other cultures but at the expense of mine!

      Liked by 3 people

  8. Juan says:

    Maybe when the Bush clan meets this weekend they will decide the appropriate time & place for him to announce his withdrawal.


    Liked by 1 person

  9. patrickhenryrevisited says:

    We say Grace.
    An we say Ma’am.
    And as far as polls go,…..
    We don’t give a damn.

    TRUMP 2016!

    Liked by 8 people

  10. Thank you for all of this, Sundance & everyone.

    What do you all make of Jeb’s campaign on supposed death watch? Did he really run low on funds? His PAC has been running a lot of ads by me. As of now I still think Jeb & Trump will be the last 2 standing. It will be interesting to see if Jeb tries to take down his protege at the debate or elsewhere.


    • sunspots7 says:

      Yeb! is cutting staff and slashing salaries, and his poll numbers are stagnant. To the eGOP pundits that can only mean one thing — Trump is finished and is dropping out of the race!! Woo hooo!

      Yeb! Yeb! Ye…oh forget it.

      Trump 2016

      Liked by 5 people

    • patrickhenryrevisited says:

      jeb’s an empty head standing in the middle of the road with the Trump truck bearing down on him.
      There’s a big family and donor pow-wow this weekend in bushville.
      The family may not pull the kid out of the traffic, but a lot of the big money behind him may opt of being roadkill.

      Liked by 1 person

    • boutis says:

      !Jeb is running into the Scott Walker problem. He is campaigning and not catching on, spending a lot of time raising money and now his old man and brother are having to do it too, simply to pay a bunch of greedy, grasping, failing consultants, advisers, and hangers on. I hope they fire Rove first. Busting it, making a fool of yourself, begging for money, only to be advised and lectured by some slob and a bunch of fools on what to do which is always wrong would be infuriating at some point. Walker got sick of it and quit which was smart but he lashed out at Trump for beating him and his worthless “team” in anger.

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  11. Steve in Greensboro says:

    The GOPe is attacking Trump using all its proxies (Grahamesty and the other phoney candidates, Fox News, WSJ, etc.).

    How about Trump returns fire? He and Carl Icahn might fund a Dave Brat type candidate to run against Ryan in his district. Surely Wisconsin is economically damaged enough by global trade and open borders, two specialties of Ryan’s, that there might be an opportunity to elect a pro-American Republican or at least split the Republican vote and get Ryan out.

    Which would be worse for America? A first term Democrat or an amnesty-traitor like Ryan? And does anybody think that Paul Ryan as Speaker will do anything other than obstruct a Trump anti-amnesty agenda?

    Liked by 3 people

    • R-C says:

      First, Trump is dominating the polls nationwide by doing what he is doing. “Most Bang for the Buck”.

      Second, I think Trump has already returned quite a bit of fire–every time somebody attacks him, the stomps their guts out.

      I think I’ll just sit back and let Trump do his thing.


  12. Ziiggii says:

    If this surprises anyone who reads here, you should probably run away. The political Potemkin Village doesn’t sell here any more than the facade of a 12-year-old picture of Trayvon Martin, or a sold Potemkin narrative of Dorian Johnson and the “hand’s up don’t shoot” ruse.

    :clap: BRAVO ! :clap:

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  13. amjean says:

    I would suggest that people who post on this site who
    are concerned about the polling showing Ben Carson
    leading Trump in Iowa know what a corrupt media
    can do to affect the outcome of an election. This
    was most obvious when the media blacked out
    any negative facts regarding Obama and misconstrued
    or made up lies about his competition. It is currently
    highlighted by the cherry picking of polls and
    poll numbers that have them report
    erroneously regarding Trump’s poll numbers.

    Trump has come in and upset their apple cart.
    It will only get more vicious. Then there are the low
    information voters. They will cling to a headline
    in order to choose their candidate.

    We are all concerned and should be.


    • Eskie Mom says:

      I pooh-poohed concerns about Carson earlier (because of the nature of Iowa in spite of TRUMP’s enormous following), but I came across something that disturbs me later. Every once in a while, I’ve been checking the Facebook ”likes” for TRUMP & Cruz. I wish, now, that I’d been checking Carson’s as well. Carson has 500,000 more ”likes” than TRUMP. WTH? There’s something really hincty about this for me.

      I wonder just how much is going on that TRUMP supporters haven’t come across yet.

      (Having said that, the Reuters Daily Tracking has our man at 32 & Carson at 19, nationally)

      Liked by 1 person

      • I remember how Obama was made the Democratic nominee in 2008 by the DNC giving Obama Hillary’s votes. It scares me what the RNC will do to prevent a Trump nomination. The electors can pull all types of stunts to get the preferred outcome. These fake Carson polls may give the RNC ammunition to sway the nomination away from Trump.


      • rodney says:

        Don’t trust the Facebook “likes” you can buy likes if talk to the right people at Facebook. Fact is they have people all over the world that are paid to “like” people and things.

        Facebook is all about data mining and selling people’s info along with hyping others for the right price.


      • sandraopines says:

        I posted a reply ^^^ about us watching the facebook “likes” go up unnaturally with others. I believe they were purchased.


      • R-C says:

        They actually PAY people out there to “like” stuff on Facebook. That is a very wildly unreliable polling source.


    • dondeg says:

      Yes, we need to spread the word about how corrupt all this is and how the media is trying to play mind games with us.


  14. TexasRanger says:

    Donald Trump Still Crushing The Polls Despite The Lies By The Media

    Animation Video Oct-19-2015:

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  15. The Boss says:

    Good call SD on the implication of the current Iowa ‘polls’. I well remember the 1st Quinnipiac poll and your analysis. Quinnipiac is whoring for the establishment, as I’ve said before, and said again yesterday about their latest excuse for a poll. One obvious motivation for QP’s garbage output is Trump’s pledge to downsize the Dept. of Education. There goes the easy money, which sources are telling me helped fuel a Quinnipiac building spree in Hamden CT. Without easy money, the higher education cartel will be unable to support expansion plans, infrastructure maintenance and cushy living arrangements for students. And they know damn well they’ll not be able to recoup lost funds through tuition and fee increases. And with broke alumni, annual giving won’t close the gap.

    Back to Iowa….On cue, FNC led off earlier with the second Iowa poll which confirmed the demise of Trump. The Des Moines Register poll (in conjunction with Bloomberg) is another shoddy poll of 401 supposedly random responders. We know the media are largely biased. Enough said. We know Bloomberg is rabidly anti-gun (though he’s protected by armed guards) and Trump is pro-gun. We know Team Carson isn’t spending big in Iowa. And I think it’s fair to say Iowans aren’t easily influenced by $1 million in attack ads – though Larry Sabato at UVA would disagree with me on this point. But he works in the education cartel, just like Quinnipiac polling.

    Let me close by saying what we’re seeing in Iowa is not unexpected. It fits neatly in the narrative laid out in “The Road Map Series”. We will see more of this Iowa nonsense, and worse, in the next few months. We proud vulgarians all need to remember that we are in an insurrection. Thanks again for the post.

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    • TwoLaine says:

      Let’s not forget that the Des Moines Register called early on for TRUMP to remove himself from the race. He then banned them from his IA events. They are special snowflakes like HuffPo. Anything from their readers is tainted with their own bias,

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    • dondeg says:

      Higher ed needs to be massively downsized. But the bloat is all on the administrative side, which has been well documented. Several years ago they gave our university president a $200k raise so the salary could be “competitive” with other institutions. $200k is the salary for about 6 junior faculty positions.

      On top of that rigmarole, DOE has become like a nazi on higher ed, with the regulations it is forcing on universities. Its a nightmare for the students and the faculty. And the faculty unions have just gone along with it. What the main street Republican is to the GOPe, is what faculty are to the higher ed system today. Which is to say, getting screwed royally.


      • The Boss says:

        Administrative bloat has infected public school systems too. The one example I love to repeat…What purpose does a middle school guidance counselor serve? It used to be guidance counselors were in high schools to help graduates head to college, technical schools, the work force or the military. Now what? To help ensure little Timmy who aspires to the 7th grade will make it there from 6th grade? Where the hell else would little Timmy go after 6th grade?

        When our first born (and others’ children) progressed to middle school from elementary school, the parents were treated to an orientation class hosted by a middle school guidance counselor. He went into exquisite detail explaining to adults how we should attend break out sessions in alphabetical order. “So if the first letter of your last name begins with an A, or a B, or a C, or a D or an F, you should go to break out room 1”. And so on, until he demonstrated to all his proficiency in reciting the alphabet in correct sequence, plus his ability to count to 5. This jack ass is probably a school superintendent now, or possibly the US Secretary of Education.

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        • The Boss says:

          Time for The Boss to go to sleep. I left out E. Sheesh!

          Liked by 2 people

        • dondeg says:

          Yes, I’ve seen this too with my kids. The public schools are unrecognizable from what they were when I was in them in the 1970s. Its a vicious cycle that needs to be broken asap. Stupid citizens and a corrupt media are the exact opposite of what our Founding Fathers intended with the Bill of Rights. Time to water the tree of liberty again…


    • R-C says:

      Like your analysis 1,000 times! Well done.


  16. flawesttexas says:

    I wouldn’t worry about Iowa. It didn’t help President Santorum or President Huckabee

    Vulgarian in FL

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  17. jeans2nd says:

    ““Stunningly Transparent Observation Bias” CNN radio (local radio, Cumulus station) announcing poll results ‘Carson beats Trump’ cites both polls, never once mentioning that the poll is for Iowa only. Even I could hear the deliberate biases.

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  18. notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

    Why that’s NO CHOICE at all.
    They might as well run Lois Lerner the old IRS battle ax.


  19. Arkindole says:

    Work. Locally. In. Meatspace.
    They. Can’t.


  20. We don’t cotton to the gaslighting, and darn sure don’t fall victim to it.

    Thanks for that, SD. With all of the recent disappointments (nolle prosequi of Lois Lerner, disappointing result of the Clinton appearance during the Benghazi investigation, and the “Freedom Caucus sell-out over the SOTH Ryan endorsement) I was starting to second guess myself.

    Now I’m just filled with Cold Anger, and an even greater resolve to hold a steady course.

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    • patrickhenryrevisited says:

      Pile all those disappointments on top of each other…
      That mountain still; ………..

      Ain’t no hill for a stepper.’


  21. Ivehadit says:

    Go Donald! Another great speech tonight. LOVE you addressing the polls!!!

    Liked by 3 people

  22. Garrison Hall says:

    Once again, thank you Sundance for an excellent analysis. For this you get two ears and a tail . . .

    Since this is a political campaign we shouldn’t be too surprised if poll numbers change from point to point. To be sure Trump’s stunning popularity has been unanticipated (and, in some important ways, even unique) but we really shouldn’t expect him to consistently maintain 20 point leads. Even if Trump gets down to a 1 or 2 point lead, that’s still a win—and if he wins by only that much the country still wins. It’s worth remembering that in previous presidential contests candidates rejoiced if they managed to eek out a 5-10 point lead from time to time. And if they won by 5 points, why, that was considered a “landslide”.

    Finally, while I like Carson, Sundance is absolutely correct in understanding that Carson’s campaign is being conditioned by the GOPe splitter stretegy. If Trump weren’t in the race, the GOPe/Uniparty would be lining Carson up for a crash and burn along with the other sacrifical splitter candidates.

    Be of good cheer, Treepers. Donald Trump is fully aware of the kind of contest he’s in and I seriously doubt that he is overly concerned about a change in the polls. This is still a horse race and there’s lots more drama to be had before the fat lady sings.

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  23. TexasRanger says:

    Donald Trump Takes The Wind Out Of Jeb’s Financial Sails!

    Animation Video Oct-2015:

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  24. sundance says:

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  25. Ivehadit says:

    Barbara knew best….
    And based on how Dana Perino was acting this week…she may prove right.

    Liked by 2 people

  26. In interview with Jake Tapper Trump says that Carson is for amnesty & citizenship. Yes!


    Liked by 1 person

    • And Carson wants to abolish Medicare!


      And seems in favor of end-of-life death-panels


      Playing god by deciding who gets to live and who gets to die doesn’t seem very Christian to me!

      Liked by 3 people

      • FireAm 85 says:

        Best to go in for the kill with 20+ million viewers watching at the economic/financial debate on CNBC next week.

        Liked by 2 people

        • folma says:

          These two have been on Carson since the get-go in 2013. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/12/ben_carson_in_his_own_words.html

          Carson is a patsy. Look at some of the info in their article, Trump could do some research on some of it. Also, Carson’s story about Popeye’s needs to be exposed as a bix=zarre lie–it makes no sense yet nobody qustions whether it ever happened. Carson is supported by both sides to get rid of Trump. He is a leftist sleeper candidate–ther is no other explanation on how the media refuses to vet him or call him out on his plethora of contradictory statements — this is not evolving-this is pure Obama type lying.

          Liked by 3 people

          • Mind bending. I would’ve never pegged American Thinker for touting Carson, must really just be Trump haters. Carson is way out of his league in wanting to become president. He’s a nice man and a great social reformer. THAT’S IT. He has zero experience and zero knowledge how to create jobs or grow the economy. Wanting to, is just not enough. You need KNOW HOW and expertise. Trump has that.

            It is amazing that Americans could even still believe we have time for such nonsense as romantic stories about having “frugal mothers” or personality contests, pastor contests, or other silliness. This country is $19 trillion dollars in debt and if that direction is not reversed this next administration, there will be ZERO funds and time for any social issues for decades to come. Anyone else getting in the office except Trump: Think BREAD LINES, more crime, more illegals, more wars, huge influx of islamic hordes of males coming into this country wanting sharia law forcing their ways on us, more abortions and selling of baby parts, big pharma scams and more black market methods of making money that become rampant when in a crashed economy.

            The human ego and pride is so blinding that these folks actually not only entertain the idea that there is time left, but also rest comfortably in their own folly about it. I don’t think anyone doubts that Trump could pull this economy around. The doubts they do have is that our economy will somehow just magically turn around and perhaps that it isn’t even as bad as Trump says it is. DENIAL. Really they have no idea. But when billionaires who live in rich comfort actually come out of the woodwork concerned about losing our very republic, I’d say it is time to take up and notice. That in itself is an omen to be heeded.

            We can have confidence that Trump will drive this message home. He’s becoming more polished as he goes on too.

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  27. Nightcrawler says:

    In 1996, Patrick Buchanan ran for president as a Republican on a populist platform- much like Donald Trump. He won New Hampshire and a couple other early primaries. Immediately thereafter, and I mean immediately, the American press- in coordination with the European press and the Vatican, that’s right- the Vatican!, assaulted Buchanan, his candidacy and his supporters. He was condemned from the left and from the right. As a supporter, that’s when I first became aware of the ‘layer of control’ over and above what we know as ‘retail politics’.

    By the end of March, Buchanan was out of money, losing races to Bob Dole (for Gawd’s sake) and withdrew his candidacy.

    That’s how powerful this group was 20 years ago. I think it is much stronger today.

    General Electric was estimated to be the 4th largest corporation in the world in 2012. In 2014, it’s net profit was 15.23 thousand million dollars! This month, “an alternative investment management fund”, Trian Fund Management L.P., purchased a 2.5 thousand million dollar interest in GE. Trian is partly owned by Nelson Peltz (former director of H.J. Heinz Company- John Kerry, anyone?). Mr. Peltz has an estimated personal net worth of 1.93 thousand million dollars and has been awarded “by the National Association of Corporate Directors (NACD) in 2010, 2011 and 2012 as among the most influential people in global corporate governance.”

    GE doesn’t care whether we drive a Suburban and heat our homes with natural gas or drive a Prius and install solar panels on the roof. GE owns substantial subsidiaries in both oil & gas production and in ‘alternative energy manufacturing’. GE gets their money either way. It’s the same with our politics- Republican or Democrat, they’re just ‘brands’ to our global overseers.

    All of this is preamble (sorry to be so long). The length, width, depth and power of the forces arrayed against Donald Trump make Hurricane Patricia look like spit against a Kansas wind.

    However, this only serves to make me prouder and more enthusiastic about Trump. As surely as you and I can see, he has to know what he is going up against and it is absolutely a tsunami! Two main differences between Buchanan and Trump: (a) Trump refuses to lose. I don’t believe there is a ‘quit bone’ in his body, and (b) Trump, unlike Buchanan, is not depending on his doners to pull him through the ‘Perfect Storm’ that is surely approaching.

    I do not believe Mr. Trump can defeat the corporate global cabal, but I pray he can withstand the thousand arrows, that he can breach the wall, that he can crack the fortifice, that he can collapse the guard tower…..that he can create the opening….and that’s all we need! All we need is the wedge. Brave men and women will follow. We can take our country back. The bullies will flee! It can be done!

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  28. jello333 says:

    Yeah, I’ve also been a bit surprised at the dire concern by some over these two Iowa polls. For one thing (as Sundance noted), WHY should anyone be surprised, knowing who’s doing what behind the scenes? But on top of that, even if the polls are technically accurate, it’s probably NO BIG DEAL. Along with the possible “evangelical bias”, the poll respondents seem to be the types who have attended caucuses in the past. Do we seriously believe these will be the ONLY ones who attend the caucuses THIS time? Or might it not be possible that the number of people attending those caucuses will rise dramatically, most likely due to Trump’s candidacy? Not Carson’s candidacy… TRUMP’s candidacy.

    So anyway, here. Here’s something I posted yesterday in the other post about the first Iowa poll. (I hate to do this, because it ruins the effect, but since I got slapped down a couple times when I posted this before, the following is satire.) I may be even MORE concerned now than I was yesterday!!:

    It’s all over for Donald.

    His once huge lead, his massive rallies are no more. The enthusiasm of his supporters has evaporated, as has that of the man himself. Trump’s famous self-confidence has disappeared, he now seems to be a broken man. Gone is the arrogance… even his hair has gone limp!

    On the other hand, Ben Carson! The Good Doctor is a juggernaut! His rallies have become the happening of the season, filling 50,000-seat stadiums with ease, with tens of thousands more clamoring to get inside. The Pope has reportedly requested audience with Dr. Ben, who will no doubt oblige when he has the time.

    Sorry Mr. Trump… you’re fired!

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  29. John Hall says:

    This RDD telephone survey was conducted from August 27 – September 8, 2015 throughout the state of Iowa. Responses are reported for 1,038 likely Iowa Republican Caucus participants from a total sample of 4,504 registered voters.

    This RDD telephone survey was conducted from October 14 – 20, 2015 throughout the state of Iowa. Responses are reported for 574 likely Iowa Republican Caucus participants from a total sample of 2,833 registered voters.

    This RDD telephone survey was conducted from December 27 – January 8, 2016 throughout the state of Iowa. Responses are reported for 38 likely Iowa Republican Caucus participants from a total sample of 174 registered voters.

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    • Raffaella says:

      Lol. Perfectly positioned.

      But I think we will see the most accurate polls at the end of January because all pollsters want to prove their accuracy and be regarded as a good pollster. As a result They will show a huge last minute Trump surg. Until then, Trump numbers will be falsely low.

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  30. TycheSD says:

    Trump did really well in that Jake Tapper interview.

    Iowans need to be shaken up. Do they always want to be the state that picks losers? Carson is NOT capable of beating the rest of the Republican field and he cannot beat Hillary. That’s all there is to it. Trump is the only Republican who actually has a chance of beating Hillary – period. Certainly, Iowans must get that at some level – if they’re honest with themselves. They need to put aside their religion for a bit and do what’s best for the country. And Trump needs to level with them, that he really is the only guy who can beat the Democrats. Do they want to win or not? Maybe the GMO corn IS screwing up their heads!!

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  31. screwauger says:

    Thank you SD! I needed that. Much appreciated. Going to start from the top and read it all again with reference links.

    Liked by 1 person

  32. Otis says:

    Super Story!! Thanks!!


  33. kallibella says:

    Another great article, Sundance! I really appreciate all the effort and time you/you all put in to explain what is going on and the reasons for the machinations of the elites in the establishment and all those who don’t care about America and our concerns.
    If it weren’t for this website I would be supporting Rubio or Cruz.
    So glad I am not. I’m all in with Trump!

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  34. Thank you Sundance. I have been worried about these polls. You give us hope for a Trump victory.

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  35. I just don’t see Jeb getting out. The Bush family has suffered defeat before (father Bush lost his run to Clinton); but they don’t strike me as quitters. Besides, it’s way too early. Perhaps they are lying low for a while hoping more candidates to drop out or tank in the polls. The family meeting and all seems more like reorganizing, regrouping, and changing strategy, perhaps father Bush has some new sinister ideas. Like strategies to take Rubio out. And to shut Trump down, although I think the Bush arrogance and legacy prevents them from even truly taking Donald Trump seriously. They might figure that all the PAC ads will take Trump out so they are not worried as much about him as they are of Rubio and yes Ted Cruz. They are stuck on stupid and sticking to their JebMap original target and want Cruz out (TEXAS). Remember, they are so out of touch with America they still see Cruz as a threat. And they think Cruz is one of the non-establishment candidates.

    The thing about both Bush and Clinton dynasties is they just don’t get that it’s OVER. There is a new day dawning, and it doesn’t include them. Like when cell phones replaced the old clunker phones. Or DVD & CDs replaced cassettes. America has changed and they are no longer relevant. I think Bernie Sanders proves that on the Dem side and of course we see Trump proves that on the Republican side. And because of their self-importance and over inflated egos they won’t even see it. Ironic too because everyone falsely accuses Trump of this, but the fact is that he would never continue to run if he saw people were not wanting him.

    In this video Jeb is determined to view his candidacy as McCain’s who was down in October carrying his own bags at the airport, broke, and low in the polls. He wholly intends to win and come hell or high water will keep on believing he can win. Interestingly he flat comes out and says he doesn’t care what the people think and is more concerned about proving himself than listening to what we want or think. I found that to be the most disturbing. Like a spurned lover who just will not take no for an answer and keeps showing up forcing themselves on their romantic target.
    [VIDEO] http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/jeb-bush-brother-george-doesnt-have-to-rescue-me

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    • rodney says:

      Jeb’s campaign is a massive cash furnace with nothing to show. This is why the confab in Texas, probably to find more willing donors(suckers).

      I think the donors realize that Jeb is a loser and are looking for other more viable candidates like Rubio and Carson to derail Trump. Either will do since the GOPe has no intention of promoting a viable candidate for president.


      • yes, that is true about the DONORS. donors can see the writing on the wall, they’re pragmatic, they’ve got money on the line and have no romantic ideals about it nor time for silly candidate ego or dreams. so sure they don’t care if it’s Rubio or Jeb. But for the man Jeb Bush himself? he is not seeing his defeat and he and his dad and bro are not ready to throw in the towel. however, the candidates themselves are driven by different forces, not pragmatic, they’re led by desire, ego, pride, ambition, and dreams about becoming president and in the light of failing polls continue to run on DENIAL.

        Of course this doesn’t apply to Trump, as he IS pragmatic and if he saw the people didn’t want him, e.g., evidenced by tanking polls of 5%, he would not be inclined to hang on at all costs nor run on denial. He is also not in the race with dreams of becoming president. He was actually called by an unshakable realization that America is in trouble and knows he can help in a real way.


  36. Trump or Carson, by Strengthen The US, Published on Oct 22, 2015
    Outsiders are leading in the Republican candidacy for President. Compare the two front-runners, Donald Trump and Ben Carson.


  37. TexasRanger says:

    Jeb Bush Is In Complete Denial and Totally Underestimates Donald Trump.!

    Perhaps Jeb believes The GOP Establishment, RNC and Super Pacs Will Save Him Through Their Slander Ads, Primary Rules Manipulation and Vote Rigging.!

    But The Trump For President Is To Strong and Massive To Be Overcome – We The People Are Not Going To Take It Anymore.!

    Vote For Trump In Your State Primary Elections in 2016.!

    Fox News Video:


  38. 22227z says:

    Funny, “Vulgarians”. I went to the Richmond rally and saw mom and pops, young people, elderly, black, hispanic, white, asian, ADA, you name it. W/the exception of the BLM and the Illegal protesters I saw thousands of normal, healthy, stable, well behaved everyday Americans. I have been to Trump volunteer trainings, and again, we had a variety of people, that all seemed very polite and normal to me. No one was vulgar, crude, or rude. Some had never been involved in politics before and they were older people. One lady was 55 years old and has never voted in her life, and there she was, wanting to know what she could do for the campaign. Most of the volunteers had worked for GOP campaigns and stated their disgust w/the party. Many had driven over an hour or more to get to the trainings. Kudos to them! Trump is bringing them out in droves. It is a movement.

    Thank God, people are waking up, it has taken long enough. I get great pleasure out of knowing the GOPe is having hissy fits over Trump. It just proves to me that Trump is the way to go. Vulgarians are like a newer, better version of the Tea Party. This time it is a Tea Party w/leadership. When I am around Trump supporters we have discussed how we feel party-less, swearing off the Tea Party, the GOP, and DNC. I have met numerous young people that are so excited the first president they get to vote for will be Donald Trump. My first POTUS was Ronald Reagan, it was a big deal so I can relate to their joy.

    I will do everything I possibly can to make sure Donald Trump wins by a landslide. Sign up for his volunteer list and go to the meetings, do the bumper stickers, hats, yard signs, phone calling, attend rallies. It is all very fun, and you meet the best people! I see a fellow Vulgarian out in public and we have an instant bond. WE CAN DO IT! We can MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!


    • TwoLaine says:

      Mine was also Reagan. I remember it well. Of course, I may find out later it was actually for someone else. Only time will tell. 😉

      Yes, the Genuine Enthusiasm for TRUMP is Contagious, and it exceeds all self-imposed boundaries, INCLUDING International.

      He is a Man of The People. One who works hard every day, like the vast SILENT Majority:), and his efforts SHOW. Millions of lives are already better because of TRUMP. He has so many accomplishments, even since he 1st announced! Just think!

      He knows the formula, and he wants to share it with the USA for FREE! No Salary. No handouts from Super PAC’s.

      IF you are the little guy, and would like to also help his campaign with a LEGAL citizen contribution, he appreciates that, but says it is not REQUIRED. It may pay for some of the jet fuel while he is out campaigning, and visiting with the American voters across the USA.

      What we are seeing from the TRUMP Trash Talkers is PURE, UNADULTERATED JEALOUSY.

      This MAN, who was once an accepted and admired part of their inner circle, who shared his wealth with them freely, and his PATIENCE, is beating them at their OWN GAME!

      Last night he put in THE FINAL SCREW! You say you are not puppets, you say I am NOT SERIOUS, and you are, THEN DENOUNCE YOUR SUPER PAC’s! EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM! STAND on your OWN merits! Show us what you got!

      IF they did that, they would drop out like flies. HOWEVER, it would be a SMART MOVE for each and every one of them! They are all fighting for the same pool of $$$. It’s pretty obvious and MOST DISGUSTING to the vast majority of Americans. They probably won’t do it though. They stupidly think they can’t afford to. That just tells you they are not serious about what you want. It’s all about what they want. SPINELESS!

      EXCEPT TRUMP. He’s spending his time with The People. Asking for nothing more than their VOTE. And telling us THIS SYSTEM MUST BE CHANGED!

      Look back at every TRUMP video for 30 years. He told them what needed to be done. He put his confidence in them, as did we. The same lies we accepted, he accepted. He gave them PLENTY of time. And, Plenty of HIS TIME and MONEY. THEY Let Us ALL Down. For YEARS!

      TIME IS UP!
      #TRUMP2016 !


  39. keebler ac says:

    Vulgarians are like a newer, better version of the Tea Party. This time it is a Tea Party w/leadership.
    I agree! We’re all part of a real and genuine reality show – We live it! One thing can be said about Donald J, he embraces people in his large fold and is inclusive. He believes in abundance rather than scarcity.


  40. TwoLaine says:

    And then there were 4…

    OCTOBER 23, 2015
    Democratic National Committee Women’s Leadership Forum
    Lincoln Chafee Presidential Campaign Withdrawal Announcement

    Former Governor Lincoln Chafee (D-RI) announces he will no longer seek the Democratic nomination in the 2016 presidential election in remarks at the Democratic National Committee Women’s Leadership Forum.



    • jello333 says:

      For some reason I always liked the guy, back when he was still a Rep, and now. Actually I guess he’s one of those types who seem to be TOO nice a person to be in politics.


  41. WakersToast says:

    Iowa is the perfect place for Carson to win. Along with the other cooks who had no chance like Huckabee and Santorum (both at 1%)


  42. TycheSD says:

    Maybe this was already posted, but doesn’t seem like Carson will be that popular after people get word about this. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/ben-carson-medicare-medicaid-215055


  43. Centinel2012 says:

    Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:

    Realistically the only one that can break open this globalist conspiracy against we vulgarians is Donald trump. But we have to keep in mind that everything we hear and see from now on will be that Trump can’t win and isn’t qualified.


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