Prescient Concern – Candidate Donald Trump Warned of Attack Over a Year Before 9-11-2001…

trump with hat(Via Buzzfeed) In 2000, 19 months before Sept. 11, 2001, Donald Trump wrote extensively of the terrorism threat the United States was facing.

Trump, who at the time was considering a presidential bid on the Reform Party ticket, went so far as to say that an attack on a major U.S. city was not just a probability, but an inevitability.

“I really am convinced we’re in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers,” wrote Trump in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve. “No sensible analyst rejects this possibility, and plenty of them, like me, are not wondering if but when it will happen.”

Trump even mentions Osama bin Laden by name, in a criticism of an American foreign policy that too quickly jumps from one crisis to the next.

“One day we’re told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin-Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jetfighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan,” The Donald wrote. “He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it’s on to a new enemy and new crisis.”

Trump started a full-on war with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush on Friday, when he suggested Bush’s older brother and former President George W. Bush is to blame for the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.  (read more)

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169 Responses to Prescient Concern – Candidate Donald Trump Warned of Attack Over a Year Before 9-11-2001…

  1. Tonawanda says:

    Game, set, match.

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    • Exactly I would give you a vote up if I could but it won’t work for me.

      FLASHBACK: JEB BUSH ADMITTED ‘LEAKY’ IMMIGRATION LED TO 9/11
      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/18/flashback-jeb-bush-admitted-leaky-immigration-led-911/

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      • emet says:

        Actually the Dept of State fouled up, but it was politically expedient to blame the INS.

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        • jello333 says:

          I actually don’t blame GW Bush the person as much as I do others within the gov’t at the time. I think George was just as stunned as the rest of us when the second plane hit. That look on his face when Card whispered in his ear… NOT what Bush was expecting to hear.

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      • Jett Black says:

        9/11 should be laid heavily and permanently, like a massive stone sarcophagus cover, on Clinton. Virtually all of the planning and the “kick the hornets’ nest and run strategy” took place under Clinton, as did the politicization of law enforcement and intel gathering, which all but killed of human intel from the GME. Further, Clinton gets the booby prize for how he dealt with muslim immigration during and after the Bosnian “war.” Every failure, every misguided policy that facilitated the terrorists’ presence and ability to learn to fly (but not land) commercial airliners were in place from the Clinton administration. Shrub had only been in office for 9 months when the towers fell. Much of that time was consumed by former Clinton operatives harassing and vandalizing the new Bush administration.

        Shrub’s failure wasn’t 9/11–it was his failure to clean house of every Clinton appointee or hire in the executive branch, prosecuting those who actually engaged in vandalism and especially Sandy Berger (Clinton’s National Security Advisor), who should still be in jail on felony charges (he pleaded to a misdemeanor with lots of “helpful explanations” [lies] from department of state about what was actually stolen and what he had had access to) stole classified documents that have never been adequately identified, shortly before his 9/11 committee testimony. That basically says it all.

        Trump is absolutely right to throw this back at Heb, but he should also be slamming it home against the Clintons and all of their cronies and apparatchiks, many, many of whom are still or back in power via <0. He can even take some gratuitous shots at Reagan for his weak immigration policies and failures to follow-up in Afghanistan to prove that Trump is not beholden to any of these past icons–he’s just going to do what we all know is right, sensible, and is already the law. Won’t that be refreshing?!

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        • jello333 says:

          This goes back at least as far as our support for the Mujahideen against the Soviets… probably even further.

          (And BTW, I like your “kick the hornets’ nest and run” line… VERY interesting.)

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          • BobNoxious says:

            The tearing apart of our Intel agencies ability to actually get Intel and deal with threats goes back to the 70s and the dem led Church Committee. Reagan did his best to work around the problems, Bush 41’s short time was mostly consumed w/ the Gulf War & then came Clinton…

            He cut and ran from Somalia, emboldening UBL. He rejected almost every plan the CIA ever brought to him to deal w/ terrorist threats b/c he thought they were “violating international law”. It got so bad that Al Gore had to explain to Bill what “covert” meant and how it enabled the CIA to circumvent international law issues, etc.

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        • BobNoxious says:

          Good post. Trumps refusal to hit Hillary w/ anything beyond a few throwaway lines about emails and being the worst secretary state ever is very frustrating & if it goes on much longer it will become troubling.

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        • archer52 says:

          (didn’t post first time)

          Well said.

          And you just hit on the surface of the problem. Jamie Gorelick, who I think parked over at the Clinton Foundation or some other ally of Hillary and Bill’s waiting for Hillary’s return to DC, created the “wall” between the CIA and the FBI- because of the politicization of the war on terror.

          Plus Clinton convinced Bin Laden- who stated such more than once- that Clinton was a coward and that the US was a paper tiger. That conclusion was created during our withdrawal from Somalia. (Blackhawk Down)

          The group that was surprised the most after 9/11 was AQ. Bin Laden later stated he didn’t see GWB’s reaction coming. Neither did Saddam or Gaddafi, the latter giving up his WMD program after he saw what GWB did to Iraq. The former found in a rathole and strung up by the neck until he was dead.

          I will say that Jeb is wrong by repeating the lie that we have had no terror attacks on American soil since 9/11. That is a patented lie. It follows the same criteria that the MSM followed on the issue of no WMD’s in Iraq. The truth in both cases is that we have suffered attacks- nearly a hundred by my count, and we found WMDs in Iraq, including nerve gas. What didn’t happen is neither met the “threshold” that counted for the MSM and the supporters of Bush.

          In fact, the first terror attack after 9/11 was the DC snipers. Many didn’t study Muhammed’s statements after his arrest. A number of them were jihad based as he claimed he was trying to terrorize America into creating a separate region for Muslims in the US.

          GWB and his supporters were worried about the rise of anti-Muslim terror if he was to point his finger at Islam as the culprit. (He and the others did not want the US to react to this attack like we did to Pearl Harbor.)

          Again, Trump thinking that there would be an attack on American soil by terrorists was easy pickings and not worthy of a gold star for prediction. Hell, we all knew it was coming. AQ had steadily hit us harder and harder for the prior six years, and Clinton did nothing other than blow up a few camels, goats and a tent or two.

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        • Roger Smith says:

          We’ve seen this since “Nam..anything Republicans or Conservatives try to raise alarm about potential threats we are called war mongers, haters, etc. The liberal media has been hard at work demonizing any attempt at real national security, pouring hate on the military and openly support those who wish to do us harm. Yeah, Bush had the CIA reports pleading for some action to prevent what would be 9-11, but running in the backs of that administrations minds probably would be the negative reactions towards any aggressive attempt to thwart attacks. Plus we had a labyrinth of “civil rights” laws that again would protect would be terrorists. That’s why Clinton didn’t do it in the first place. “What would the public think?” Sad.

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    • wanda mason says:

      so if he warned about the upcoming attack a year before the attack how could it be bush’s fault then since he had only been in office for 9 months when it happened,

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  2. TheTorch says:

    Glad you picked up on this story Sundance. It pretty much sums up why Trump is where he is not only in the race, but also with his business.

    Now can you track down the article that Jebby wrote around this time as well please that said something similar? Oh yes there isn’t one! 😀

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  3. Pedro says:

    According to the Washington Examiner, the establishment is getting ready to take down Trump. They can’t let him get to February and Iowa; he wins and so will the American ppl. Let us pray

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    • TheTorch says:

      Yes they will do their worst, but someone should tell them, they need to do it by mid-December, otherwise it is too late anyway! FEBRUARY ?? 😀

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    • R-C says:

      Yes, right…and up until now they haven’t lifted a glove to try to stop him. (Methinks the GOPe will still be “getting ready to take him down” while everyone else is getting ready for the Trump inaugural.)

      Trump is inside their decision loop. They’ve been REACTING to Trump from the start because Trump has been preparing for this run for decades. (And Trump’s vast biz empire ought to give you some idea of the quality of his preparations.)

      This “prescient concern” article shows that Trump is not quite the “lightweight” that others make him out to be.

      “Bring it on,” bought-and-paid-for GOPe puppets. Bring. It. On. Good luck with your scheme–we aren’t buying it. The THOUSANDS of people who pack every Trump rally ought to be a clue.

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  4. crazy says:

    So he was worried about 7+ yrs of the Clinton administration, right? Why doesn’t he say so?

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    • R.T. says:

      9/11 is on Bush, not Clinton (yes, I know Clinton ignored warnings, etc.). But the issue is Bush. He had 8 months to figure it out and he didn’t, despite many warnings.

      STOP PASSING THE BUCK BECAUSE OF YOUR POLITICAL ALLEGIANCES.

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      • Les says:

        Please stop blaming Bush for an act he didn’t commit. It’s crazy and anybody with any sense knows better. It’s okay to like Trump, to go to this extreme doesn’t show support, it shows worship. Why not blame TRUMP for not emptying out the building on 9/11 if he knew all about it? That thought is just as ridiculous as blaming Bush for the Twin Towers, Pentagon, and Flight 93.

        Terrorists are bad. If we knew what they were planning every single time, we could stop them for doing these bad things. Apparently nobody has a crystal ball. Not even Trump.

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        • R.T. says:

          I’m going to try to respond to your incoherent crap, so here we go:

          We’re talking about gross negligence and dereliction of his duties as president to protect the nation (of which there is ample evidence for), but we’re not blaming Bush directly for 9/11.

          This is a distinction you’re apparently not intelligent enough to understand or comprehend.

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          • Doug says:

            Well said. The point is Bush told us how he protected us from terrorist and ran on that in his reelection. The irony being the deadliest terrorist attacked happened on his watch. does that mean I blame him for flying planes into the tower ,,,no of course I dont, but you cant have it both ways in saying your protecting us all when facts show you didnt. You ignored warnings and Clinton didnt take the oppurtunity to take him out. So that being said … Americans are supposed to elect a Bush or a Clinton because of their supposed superior qualifications … makes no sense.

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            • lorac says:

              Don’t let them divide Trump supporters by using political parties to divide us.

              Maybe the point should be, “we” haven’t been taking this seriously and doing it right, but Trump is going to get our country on a safe track…..

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          • Jaxvillekid says:

            Actually it’s your statement that incoherent. Sept 11 , 2001 happened 7 months into Bush’s presidency. Also last time I checked with Gore contesting the election a lot of the transitioning was delayed. I’m curious if God forbid something happens within a year after Trump takes office who will everybody blame?Personally I would blame OBama due to his policies and what seems to be his support or at least his sympathy of Islam. To be honest I’m also suspicious of some of y’all who give Clinton a pass considering how many times we were attacked on his watch. Also how many times Clinton had the chance to get Osama Bin Laden and did nothing. Now one thing is for sure for me. Though I will not vote for Bush at all I still felt a lot more safer during GWB term than I do now with OBama and I served. Another thing all you individuals who cry about all the wars I’ve got a newsflash for you. Islam is at war with us whether you like it or not. What gets me is no one is asking you to fight just support those of us who do. I will take up arms to defend my country and family from these barbarians proudly. If you want to call me a war monger I will wear it with pride. We use to call them warriors. One last thing. This world will always be governed by the aggressive use of force. There will always be war until the Good Lord comes back. Till then lead, follow or shut up and get out the darn way cause some of us have a job to do.

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            • R-C says:

              “Another thing all you individuals who cry about all the wars I’ve got a newsflash for you. Islam is at war with us whether you like it or not.”

              Amen, brother Jax. Your comment rocked. From one warrior to another.

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        • It’s really incompetence and failure to enforce immigration laws and terrorist watch list really. Jeb Bush was Governor of Florida when 12 of the 9/11 hijackers got Florida driver’s licenses that allowed them to rent cars, rent planes and of course, board commercial aircraft without additional scrutiny.

          Mohammad Atta was on the terrorist watch list and there was a warrant out for his arrest but when he was pulled over by police in Florida, they let him go, simply telling him to show up in court the next month. Many of the hijackers overstayed their visas and Jeb Bush let them run around Florida anyway.

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          • Jaxvillekid says:

            Actually the Police officers who didn’t arrest them are to blame. That is unless Jeb Bush was patrolling the highways of Florida that day. I know the guy who trained them in self defense. I use to go to his gym and I don’t personally blame him. He had no idea what they were planning. It seems a little ridiculous to blame Governor Bush for what was a Clinton administration policy. Immigration policy is under federal jurisdiction. I understand Bush is an open borders guy that’s why I won’t vote for him. But it seems a little ridiculous to single out GWB or Jeb. I mean there is plenty of blame to go around. I support Trump but he has given money to Hillary and Bill Clinton and they share a lot of the blame for Sept 11, 2001.

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            • Jeb was in charge of leadership. Lax police reflect lax leadership.

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            • Jett Black says:

              They (Bushes, Clintons, Demonrat congress, MSM) are all grossly and horribly to blame. In his instance, as in nature, the fish rotted from the head–Clintons, who were in power and who were informed of the Bojinka plan, knew who and where the bad actors were, had nothing else significant on their plate militarily (except a peacefully co-existing bunch of women, children, and old guys at an isolated compound near Waco, TX), and had 6 years after being informed of Bojinka to do something–anything, defensive or offensive–about it. Crickets.

              Shrub didn’t help things before 9/11 and didn’t help afterward by spouting the “religion of peace” canard (Islamic republics and their adherants should absolutely have been treated exactly the same as Imperial Japan was after Pearl Harbor), but the genesis, motivation, open pathways, and facilitative policies (like lax immigration enforcement and walls between intel sources/analysts) are on Clinton.

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              • jello333 says:

                Just to prove that I was NEVER a my-party-right-or-wrong robot type, even back when I was a solid Democrat, I HATED Clinton, Reno, and their goons for what they did to the Branch Davidians.

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        • Athena the Warrior says:

          Clinton is to blame but so is Bush for ignoring intelligence warnings about Osama including the August 6, 2001 memo.

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        • RINOKiller says:

          Im sorry

          This is not Breitbart.

          So you can post over there like the rest of the trolls

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      • manickernel says:

        Stop with the blind ignorance of what actually occurred.

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      • joanfoster says:

        To the extent that Trump may face Hillary, the comment is pertinent. The Clinton Adm. is mired in the muck and filth of 9/11 as much as GWB.

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        • lorac says:

          She wasn’t in the Clinton administration. I don’t think that will go anywhere, especially as she’s not even running as similar to Bill, as a Clinton centrist, she’s running on an Obama III platform. Her husband isn’t the one running, and she’ll be the first to point that out, as she did in 2008. Better to focus on her and her record, if you want traction, IMO.

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      • notasmidgeon says:

        I will gladly vote for Trump for President and have contributed to his campaign. I do not think it’s in his best interest to pull an Obama and blame Bush. We’ve had the Bush blame game for 7 yrs now.

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        • sandraopines says:

          I just don’t get why headlines are Trump Blames GWB. I haven’t heard him say that at all. He is trying to use the situation for multiple reasons, one is Immigration dangers. There is much to be learned here if we don’t wear our heart on our sleeves about it. I haven’t heard Trump blame anything but POLICIES in place then vs Jebbies candidate policies. This isn’t personal at all. Jeb would like to make it personal for political gain but it doesn’t fly in reality IMHO.

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          • Betty says:

            “He is trying to use the situation for multiple reasons, one is Immigration dangers.”

            Another reason is to point out the the fact that even though he was not the president or a governor (handing out drivers licenses in FLA) he was on the ball enough to recognize the danger we faced from illegal immigrants and tried to warn everyone.

            “In 2000, 19 months before Sept. 11, 2001, Donald Trump wrote extensively of the terrorism threat the United States was facing.”

            “I really am convinced we’re in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers,” wrote Trump in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve. “No sensible analyst rejects this possibility, and plenty of them, like me, are not wondering if but when it will happen.”

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        • SharonKinDC says:

          This ALL started because Trump refused to let Jeb get away w/ the false statement ‘my brother kept us safe’. Hello? 9/11 happened. He didn’t blame GWB, he pointed out Jeb’s lie. Then the MSM ran with it. Since then, Trump noted lax immigration policies were a big issue. They were. Again, he didn’t lay blame. He stated fact.

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      • Jett Black says:

        No, it’s solidly on Clinton. Just like <0, Demonrats always set up their successors with a million traps and time bombs. 9/11 was one of them. The Clintonistas in the bureaucracies was another one. There are more, but hopefully, you get the point.

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      • facebkwallflower says:

        He actually had more than eight month. By this article other, like Trump, take fifteen years to think through these things. Heck, Trump had it figured out while merely considering a run in 2000, so one would think if someone thinks they are qualified to be president they would have understood before running for office,ya think?

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        • Jaxvillekid says:

          It was a few days over 7 months. Also all Trump knew was a terrorist attack was coming. Unless your saying he knew when, where and how. Tell you what I’m gonna make a prediction that we will have a terrorist attack again. It will be terrible. Now I support Trump but I have a funny feeling that once he gets elected he will understand its a little harder when you sit behind the desk in the Oval Office. And once again who are all of y’all gonna blame if we get hit with another attack within a year of Trump winning?

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      • Millwright says:

        Actually, RT, internecine warfare – aided and abetted by various political factions, financial managers and media mavens – bear the most guilt for 9/11 . But the “failure cascade” dates back at least FDR’s first administration when the “New Blood” ( political cronies ) came to town with sticky hands and empty pockets anxious to grab all the power they could. And it was the same forces DDE described as “the military-industrial complex” in his farewell warning to Americans. However, if fixing “responsibility” is the goal it becomes self-evident. We are ! We voters failed to properly fulfill our duty to hold our congress critters chief executives to their duty to supervise and control all levels of bureaucracy.

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    • PremAmerica says:

      Yes, his book and this article is a criticism of Clinton…. It was published before Bush became President…… Trump will get to it in the general election……

      But now, he is in the primary……. And Jeb must be destroyed……. Trump has no choice….. Thad Cochran is Senator because the establishment WILL scorch and destroy… Anybody who falls for the “good of the party” and “unify the party” arguments will simply be destroyed by the party…….

      And yes, like it or not, G. W. Bush is involved…… His brother is running for President and trashing Trump every day…. His chief of staff (Karl Rove) is on TV trying to destroy Trump every day….. His press secretary Dana Perino is on TV bad mouthing Trump every day…. His speechwriter Marc Thiessen is on print media and TV trashing Trump every day….

      I could go on all day……

      Trump has to show that he is just as willing to scorch the earth if need be…. It will get much worse if the Republican establishment doesn’t back off…….

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      • snaggletooths says:

        Trump is hasn’t even begun to double down on this yet. Jeb will soon be a distant memory.

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      • michellc says:

        This is very true. I’ve been hearing for awhile from Conservatives how they want a fighter, they want the guy who brings a gun to a knife fight. Well, Trump has shown and is showing he’s willing to bring a cannon to a knife fight and some folks are getting queasy. Love or hate W he was President when 9/11 happened and maybe he didn’t have enough time in office to clean house or demand laws be enforced, but not much house cleaning was done after 9/11 either and laws continued to not be enforced. Trump has to show just being better than Obama is not good enough, in order to make America great again and in order to protect America someone has to be willing to clean house even if it means burning the entire thing down and our laws must be enforced.
        We’re living on borrowed time and Presidents and Congress for years haven’t been demanding our immigration laws be enforced and we now have who knows how many Islamic terrorists living next door along with deadly Hispanic criminals.
        When/if he wins the nomination is the time to go after the Clintons, if he doesn’t defeat the GOPe his tough words on the Clintons would make some feel good but they’d just be wasted words.

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      • pumpernickel says:

        I think you are right. Trump is dealing with the primary right now, not the general. Trump has also said that he doesn’t think Hillary will be the Democrat nominee, so there isn’t much sense in going all out on Clinton at this time anyway.

        Besides, I really don’t think at this point G.W. deserves defending. No, Bush didn’t cause 9/11, but it isn’t just Obama who left our borders open. This country is in a huge mess, as much because of W.’s decisions as those of others. This website has helped clarify just how connected to the establishment the Bush family is, and clearly they did not work to fix the immigration problem that at least played a part of 9/11. Whatever games the Bush family is playing, it is time those games came to an end, and the entire lot of them are drop kicked to the curb.

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    • Not right timing. Right now the fight is on for the GOP Republican nomination. Don’t worry, Hilliary will get her turn come 2016 just after Trump secures the nomination and there’s plenty more ammunition than that for her and the Dems.

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  5. TheLastDemocrat says:

    This seems like a genius move – both the establishment and Jeb are in the position of defending GW Bush; Jeb has already been, so the establishment that want him as the candidate have to follow along. Against Trump having an opinion that matches CIA intelligence ignored by GW.

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  6. lurker99 says:

    Wonder how many “reporters” already knew about this article (and sat on it)…………

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  7. NCPatrick says:

    Oh thank you soooo much for posting this stunning article, Sundance. I know I’ve never read it before, but no wonder Trump made the gently toned remark he did in the interview! I have been agonizing over why he did it, but now I know. He predicted this would happen, even put it into print and named the chief terrorist enemy 19 months before the catastrophe. It must have made him truly sick to have been so right! Bless you, Sundance, for setting the record straight. Even Rush was pounding on Trump today and I hope he has a chance to eat his words tomorrow!

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  8. R.T. says:

    Checkmate, Jeb.

    Trump opened up this narrative without coming across as a “Truther”. He’s getting some of the Sheep talking, at least, about the failures of the Bush Admin. It’s brilliant.

    But there is still resistance from former Bush supporters. They will just have to leave behind their RINO allegiances and get on board the Trump Train.

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  9. flawesttexas says:

    Trump is pwning Jeb…and Jeb, GOPe are clueless about it

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  10. Ellie says:

    So happy to see this! It makes me even more resolved about why I will vote for Donald Trump. He may not have all the answers, but he understands the threats we face and is willing to level with the American people. I want to hear the truth! No matter how bad it is! Trump is the only one willing to say it. The rest of these people are pathetic. JMHO.

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  11. hocuspocus13 says:

    The fear of Trump by those who fear the truth 🇺🇸

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  12. dizzymissl says:

    George W. Bush unleashes on Ted Cruz

    “I just don’t like the guy.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/jeb-bush-george-bush-donors-ted-cruz-214933

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    • joanfoster says:

      I bet you don’t like the guy, GWB. You probably think that Trump will just politely go away and endorse Ted. I’m sure that would make your mom’s pearls explode and your dad might have to jump out of an airplane – this time without a parachute. We really don’t give a sh*t what you or your ilk think any more. You showed your colors by insisting on open borders even after 3000 Americans died in one day due to a terrorist attack which could have been prevented had you listened to the intel reports you were receiving. No instead of keeping us safe, you are in a kindergarten class reading fairy tales and now your brother who is the essence of all fairy tales is running for President and we are suppose to sit up and listen. Well, it may be time for you to listen. Go back to Texas, pound sand or do whatever it is you do to make yourself look like a hero. It’s not playing in America any more. By the way, in the event you ever lose sleep over the thousands of deceased and crippled members of our armed forces which you willy nilly sent into iraq to avenge your father’s honor, I am sure big pharma has a solution provided under Obamacare.and it’s covered under the Medicare Drug Plan you saddled the American taxpayer with. Now saddle up buddy and get the hell out of our face. We have heard enough from you.

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  13. Les says:

    It doesn’t seem like such a big newsflash to me. There were acts of terror before 9/11, just not on this scale. 9/11 is the first time they used commercial airplanes for the attack and they killed a bunch of people, but it wasn’t the first, or last, attack on American soil.

    I’m glad Trump recognizes and speaks to the threat, but so did Bush. Y’all are too used to being Obama’d and are feeling like Trump is saying a new truth. He isn’t. And he couldn’t have stopped those planes, either.

    I keep a more even keel, keeps me from burning out too quickly or people thinking I have completely lost it. I know every candidate has a good and a bad side. I think we would be better served by being informed of Trump’s bad side. Many of us have already decided to vote for Trump, now I need to know the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I am wary of the Obama-Level of idolatry I see on the Internet and feel it needs to be tempered with some even-handed reporting. There is only the One Messiah.

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    • dizzymissl says:

      If Trump’s immigration policies were in place 911 would not have happened.

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    • JRD says:

      I have NO allegiance to the corrupt gopE. They are part of the Uni-Party.
      It’s time to wake up. The corrupt gopE is not on your side.
      Just when are you going to get it?

      It’s the permanent political class against “We the People.”

      The Bushies motto is: Better a Democrat than someone who is not one of us! And you are still defending them. They are not defending and standing up and fighting for you.

      If the Bushies want my respect they have to earn it. Respect is not freely given.

      I’m sorry but I don’t suffer from Battered Conservative Syndrome.

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    • Ellie says:

      Don’t misread the bloggers here as having “Obama-Level idolatry”. Far from it. We have no illusions about Donald Trump. You are right that Trump couldn’t have stopped those planes. But the difference is a President Trump would not allow those conditions to present themselves that allowed 9/11 to happen in the first place. For example, when Trump says he’ll send Syrian refugees back if he’s elected, it’s because he understands the threat they pose. I for one am sick and tired of politicians that don’t give a crap about American citizens and taxpayers, first. We are the priority, not refugees, illegals, and non-citizens. Which is why I support Trump. A vote for President Trump is the middle finger to the pathetic weasels that inhabit Washington, DC (District of Corruption).

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    • Oh really?
      –Jeb Bush failed to enforce immigration laws. Jeb Bush was Governor of Florida when 12 of the 9/11 hijackers got Florida driver’s licenses that allowed them to rent cars, rent planes and of course, board commercial aircraft without additional scrutiny.

      –Mohammad Atta was on the terrorist watch list and there was a warrant out for his arrest but when he was pulled over by police in Florida, they let him go, simply telling him to show up in court the next month.

      –hijackers overstayed their visas and Jeb Bush let them run around Florida anyway. Jeb might want to rethink his immigration policy before someone blames HIM and not just his brother for 9/11.

      THEY COME FOR ❤ LOVE JEB SAYS !

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    • RINOKiller says:

      Sundance,

      What’s a Breitbart troll doing here?

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  14. Murse says:

    “….a review Jeb Bush’s 2013 book Immigration Wars reveals that Jeb Bush himself agreed with Trump’s argument and admitted that our “leaky” immigration policy was responsible for the attack.”

    I love how pols seemingly forget that their comments are eternal.

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/10/jeb_bush_agrees_that_911_happened_due_to_bushclinton_immigration_policies.html#ixzz3p3sTPIwg
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  15. kallibella says:

    The obvious question that comes to mind is, if Trump could see this coming, if he [minus all the intelligence apparatus at POTUS’ disposal] could see and understand that something major, like a terrorist attack could be a very real possibility, why did our government dismiss the threat, why the reluctance to act sooner and not take the whole thing as seriously as a total outsider like Trump took it????!!!!!! What has our country become????!!!! We are in danger today maybe as much as ever!!!

    Remember that prior to the 9/11 attacks, the USS Cole had been targeted and attacked, and several sailors were killed. That happened in Yemen a hotbed of Al Qaeda in Yemen/Arabian peninsula. Prior to that during the Clinton administration also, two of our embassies in two different African countries, one of which I believe was Kenya, were bombed and many died. Some Arab country had offered intelligence on OBL and Clinton didn’t take the opportunity to kill him. We had enough indications something was indeed brewing and the attacks had been getting more extravagant.

    I can now understand why Trump instead of dropping the issue has intensified the argument against Jeb!’s assertions of W keeping us safe.

    Trump is casting this issue from the immigration angle, but I do believe that if he would have been president no visas would have been granted to any muslim from any part of the world and I believe he would have done whatever possible to protect us and prevent attacks.

    This is yet another symptom of insiders’ mentality. There seems to be a lethargy and languid attitude about pressing matters among those who are too deep in the beast that has become our government.

    We need Trump!

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    • NJF says:

      The rubber stamping of the visas is indefensible. And it’s still happening.

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      • kallibella says:

        I would have expected muslims to be the last ethnic group to be awarded visas into the US after 9/11 and I was expecting illegal immigration to be severely curtailed. I thought those were the logical and most reasonable things to do…But we still are not doing those things and that’s why I think we are not as safe as we could be.

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        • Jill says:

          You have to wonder what is going on behind the curtain when we ignored Russian intelligence regarding the Tsarnaev brothers. We even ignored the warnings from the Ft; Hood shooter himself. You can’t make this stuff up.

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        • SharonKinDC says:

          Worse, post-9/11, GW approved some 20k student visas from Saudi, iirc.

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          • kallibella says:

            That is crazy. Only way for me to understand that is to consider how chummy the Bushes are with Saudi Arabia. This attitude cements my belief that often, too often, politicians act as if the US belongs to them alone as opposed to its citizens, whom they dismiss with noticeable disdain.

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      • SharonKinDC says:

        I think Trump is worried about what has been let in…and what will be let in w/ the ‘refugees’…in addition to campaign hardball.

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        • R-C says:

          Sharon, you had me at “Trump is worried about…”

          It’s nice to see a prospective leader actually giving these issues some sober thought without looking through the campaign donors’ prism. “Gee…what would my campaign donors want me to do about ‘X’?”

          We desperately need a president who will do what is right for AMERICA, and not do what some powerful constituency group thinks is right for them, covered in “song-and-dance” sauce.

          Trump 2016!

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    • smiley says:

      under jeb’s watch as Florida governor, some of the hijackers held Florida driver’s licenses, lived in Florida and trained at a flight safety school in Vero Beach.

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  16. manickernel says:

    The head of security for the Towers knew there would be an attack. He knew it would be on the Towers. He warned of it and they practiced evacuations for it. He did not realize it would be multiple jets flying into the Towers though. Plenty of people predicted the attack, as it was not the first one by a long shot. Not even the first on the Towers.

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  17. Trump is playing Jeb like a grand piano… lol

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  18. justfactsplz says:

    The talking heads have been all over this 9/11 deal all day. I’m so glad S.D. discovered this. Even if the media knows about it they won’t report it. However, the public has a right to know why Trump said what he did about G.W. Bush.

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  19. Buck Weaver says:

    This link takes you to a Google book page where you can read a few chapters from Trump’s book, “The America We Deserve”. It includes the quotes used in this Buzz Feed article, and so much more. His writing, his thinking, and his foresight really is extremely impressive. I couldn’t get the tiny url to land where I wanted it to, but just scroll around. http://tinyurl.com/ntp5mfz

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  20. ‘But Rubio is a foreign policy genius!!!!’ Lol

    Meanwhile

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  21. coltlending says:

    It’s astounding. Had all the government agencies from the president down done their jobs, 9/11 wouldn’t couldn’t have happened.

    There were multiple instances of Intel on middle easterners wanting to learn to fly but not land being sent to various FBI offices and the were all ignored.

    That and the fact the hijackers entry and financing was total missed is astounding, yet you short the IRA like Denny Hassert and they don’t miss a thing.

    Granny and your kid get felt up before boarding a plane.

    I was on a flight from Chicago to Portland about four years ago and four Achmeds were allowed to poach musical chairs at the rear of the plane playing loud prayer music. WTF?

    I clearly remember — no — reporting on WTC 7 imploding on 9/11. None zippo nada.

    I also remember thinking “controlled demolition” as I watched the building implode on live TV that day.

    I can’t remember an airplane crash with no massive engine debris except the Pentagon and that field in PA.

    Something stinks.

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    • stella says:

      A friend of mine was killed in Indiana in a plane crash where the debris looked like confetti. He was identified by his wedding ring on the part of his hand that they found. Many others were never identified. The plane had ice on the wings, the pilot lost control, and the plane went nose down into the ground at high speed. Just like the plane in Pennsylvania. Just because you never heard of it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. It does. There are pictures on line.

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      • coltlending says:

        Evidently, the metal the turbine blades are made of does not melt at the tempretures the jet fuel would have caused.

        There was no engine debris at the Pentagon or WTC sites. WTC7 what brought that down? I think the explaination was debris. That does not seem plausible.

        I’m not an expert. I’m relying mostly on what I saw on TV and that looked like a controlled demolition.

        Video has come out of firemen in the lobby saying they heard explosions in the basement.

        Is a lot of this stuff fabricated? I don’t know, but there seem to be a lot of unexplained occurrences.

        There is also the matter of how fast the rubble was thrown away and the steel shipped to China.

        Given all of that, I will never forget watching it live on TV and thinking controlled demolition. The buildings imploded straight down.

        Where else in the world have steel structures gone down like that?

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    • mcfyre2012 says:

      The aircraft were fully loaded with fuel and flew into the buildings at their maximum speed. There wouldn’t be “massive engine debris.”

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  22. BobNoxious says:

    This is absolutely comical. Donald Trump’s comments from 2000 are no different than countless other remarks prior to 9/11. I’m sure a LexisNexis search would turn up almost identical remarks from George W. Bush- minus the blame America first type remarks about our military presence overseas causing more terrorists.

    Good lord. This is embarrassing

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    • manickernel says:

      Well, to channel Pelosi, I guess we will have to vote for him to see if he is for real.

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    • dizzymissl says:

      George Bush was president or a candidate. Trump was a businessman.

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      • BobNoxious says:

        Kids in middle school & high school knew of UBL & his desire to conduct a large scale strike inside America. What he said in his book was absolutely no different than what countless others, inside and outside of government knew & said, publicly.

        UBL plainly spelled out his desires for all the western world to see & hear in a 1998 interview w/ a CNN journalist & shortly after he attacked our embassies in Africa…. Anyone paying any sort of attention knew what they wanted to do (especially when coupled with the 1993 bombing).

        The way this is being portrayed here is so out of character for the intelligent & reasonable folks that make up this web community.

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  23. jello333 says:

    Alright, I’m doing what I promised myself I wouldn’t do: Get emotionally involved in this campaign. I mean yeah, I’ve slowly, gradually come around to supporting Trump. But at first it was more along the lines of “It would be pretty cool if this guy could win, and shove it in the Status Quo’s face.” But now I’ve reached the point where I think it’s IMPORTANT that he wins… I’m really starting to feel he could actually make the US, and the whole world, a better place. Really strange, considering just a few months ago I considered him one part good businessman, and three parts clown. I was dead wrong.

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    • manickernel says:

      I with you too, though some of the Trump worship that seems to be developing is a bit much. The guy really is smart despite his public “persona”. Hell, he grows on you after a bit.

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    • kallibella says:

      I didn’t like Trump at all when there were rumors he might enter the race. I just didn’t like his attitude about things he had said before, although what I remember most is his complaints about China.

      I heard in the news like the rest of us about the other candidates when they first threw their hat in the ring. I was particularly waiting for Scott Walker to announce and was optimistic to hear he had been doing well in Iowa.

      Trump was not a consideration of mine at all. But when I started paying more attention and seeing how he was resonating, I perked up. The moment that made me think of him as possibly getting my vote was after the first debate.

      Ever since I’ve been trying to learn as much as I can about all the candidates, especially the ones who could get my vote, and finally realized that Trump makes the most sense to me.

      I am sick and tired of the establishment and hope that by electing an outsider like Trump we can get back on the road of rebuilding the damage that has been done to the Constitution. I really fear how the current POTUS has overlooked the Constitution and circumvents it still every chance he gets. I hate that they believe themselves above the law, and up to now they are because there is no one making the case to stop Oevil and his assaults on the Constitutional.

      But as has been commented up in the thread, I do NOT worship Trump. I don’t have that kind of admiration for him. He is only a human. I do evaluate him on the skill set he has spoken about and consider those things to guide me in supporting him or not. I am looking for leadership skills and a can-do attitude and I think Trump has thus far shown he can do the job of Commander-in-Chief.

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      • michellc says:

        I was totally against him, he did speak not once but twice about Oprah as VP and I could never stand his personality. I just flat out didn’t like him and believed him to be a dyed in wool liberal. I started being grateful to him that he not only changed the conversation but made it possible to have the conversation on illegals and amnesty. Before him there was no conversation, it was all about telling us what was going to happen and all of us who disagreed were racists and bigots and hated children. I still wasn’t on board though, then the first debate happened and I realized with the attacks he was the only threat.
        I got on board with voting for him but still didn’t really like him and still had my doubts that he wasn’t a liberal and still didn’t trust him. I still can’t say I trust him, trust is something that is earned in my book and he hasn’t been given the chance yet to earn it. However, I have more trust in him than I do any of the others except for a few such as Jeb and Rubio and I trust they will force amnesty down our throats.
        Trump though I am starting to like and respect, which is totally different than I felt about him a few short months ago.
        I doubt I will ever agree with him 100% of the time and it’s not possible he will be a perfect candidate or a perfect President and I certainly do not worship or idolize him but if he does no more than secure the border and deport a fraction of the illegals, he’ll do more good for the country than any President in many years if not my lifetime. Even Reagan didn’t do that.

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        • prescient11 says:

          Michelle, this describes me perfectly. When I found out his dad was a Goldwater guy and that Trump helped get Reagan on the NY ballot in 1979, I did my research. If anything, I think Trump has been a closet conservative/nationalist this entire time.

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          • michellc says:

            I get it said to me that he won’t do what he says and sadly I’ve came to accept I’m going to get burned by anyone running for office. However, like I tell them nobody was saying it until he showed up, a few would skirt around it but nobody would come out and say they should be deported and our border should be secured.
            So, I’ll take the risk because if it isn’t done then we only have a few years left until it all comes crashing down anyway.

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      When we think about the donor class impact on other candidates, most tend to think about crappy policies said candidates will back, like amnesty, etc. Perhaps, it goes beyond, though? Even into some of the pc BS which apparently blocks common sense from prevailing? Another point that separates Trump from the pack, is that he seems to apply common sense to everything! And thus, ends up with the right point of view 99.9% of the time.

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  24. TexasDude says:

    I liked W. Overall he was a good president. However, he did not campaign on being a war time president, but an educational one whose compassionate conservatism would be the lazier focus of his main objective, domestic affairs.

    Then 9-11.

    Many a lefty wished this had happened under Clinton. Well, it did ( Trade Center bombings and the USS Cole). What did he do, not a damn thing other than symbolic!

    W took the fight to them and I applaud, but he did not understand that we were at war (and still are by the way).

    Trump is right. The buck stops with the president. At least it should. Moreover, the signs were there, but R nor D took it very seriously.

    Today, no one takes our border problem seriously except Trump.

    We need a leader who will fight FOR America and not go along this globalist path we are on.

    Trump is the only one saying he will fight.

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    • jello333 says:

      Militarily, I hope Trump stays out of everything around the world… with one exception. I’d like to see him destroy, totally and completely so there’s not even one molecule left, the slimy things known as ISIS. Of course I also want him to do that without killing a whole bunch of innocent people in the process… something our recent “leaders” seem unable or unwilling to do. (I’ve stated my preferred solution to the ISIS problem here a few times, which doesn’t even involve killing, but I’ll not go into that again in this thread.)

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  25. sundance says:

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  26. emet says:

    Missed the hijackers but caught Jebs wife failing to declare and pay duty in thousands of dollars in wearing apparel

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  27. czarowniczy says:

    Rick Rescorla knew the WTC would be attacked again long before Trump or most anyone else even guessed at it. He was the chief of security at the WTC for Morgan Stanley and went as far as conducting evac drills for employees to minimize casualties from a terrorist attack long before 911. He died leading employees out of the South Tower.
    We had Tenet at the CIA who was reportedly talking with Rice over attacks he felt were close – just 2 months before 911. We have the scores of analysts who saw Operation Bojinka get busted and KNEW that stealing airliners and using them as kamikazes was the coming threat – and the FBI agents (among others) who were looking into various Mideasterners taking large aircraft flying lessons in the US but were told to stand down even after a few flying school owners started calling with doubts about these students’ intentions.
    I guess the main difference is that only Trump’s running for president; he may be a stand-up guy but let’s not try to make him look like the Most Interesting Man in the World.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Whoops – I forgot – all of the military ‘war college’ writers in the 70s and 80s who wrote about the inevitability of Mideast terrorist attacks inside of the US – but they ain’t running for office either.

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    • jello333 says:

      And I don’t know if this can be considered some kind of defense of GWB, but in my opinion I don’t believe the guy knew nearly as much as other people in his administration did. Maybe he should have gone out of his way to make sure he WASN’T kept in the dark about anything important, but I’m one of those who think that yeah… Bush WAS kept out of the loop at times.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        There were other things to be dealt with and it was the duty of the intel and State folks to keep him abreast of the salutations that had the potential to bite him/us in the nether regions. There used to be almost a race by the various intel/policy folks to get to the WH for the AM situation briefing and various policy folks decided what was to be briefed. I believe thaty gad Bushj been in the Big Seat for more than the 7 or so months he was he’d have had a better idea who the wonks were and what their agenda were – he’s also, from what I’ve been told, too much of a nice guy to ask for heads on a platter when something went wrong. He ate what others prepared and served.

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        • jello333 says:

          That’s more or less what I think too. I believe all the talk about Cheney (and others) having much more behind-the-scenes info than Bush did, is largely true.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            As I said a year or so ago, we’d talek about having dreams where plane swere crahing intyo buildings for a long time after Bojinka – wife still doesn’t want to hear about it – and the discussion was about how easy it would be to steal a plane and do it but it was just so outrageous it was bere talk. Surprise.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Beer talk – or beer editing – hence the creative typing and lager than life editing.

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            • jello333 says:

              Even though I knew what was going on, it still didn’t seem real at first. My mom called and woke us up, told us what was happening (planes crashing into the buildings), so we quickly jumped up and turned on the TV. The first thing I saw was a replay of the 2nd plane hitting (which had just happened a few minutes earlier). Did I freak out? Nope, because I didn’t realize what they were showing was real. My thought was, well actually I may have said this out-loud to my wife… “Why are they showing some movie scene?”

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            • lorac says:

              There was a woman – maybe FBI? – but she caught on to all these Muslims learning how to fly but not to land. She was practically screaming at the top of her lungs to the higher ups, but no one was interested….

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              • czarowniczy says:

                Roger that, Sibel Edmonds and they fired her too. She worked on some ops that were, arguably, a violation of diplomatic protocol, and also testified about the FBI withholding knowledge of the 911 attacks they’d received months before they were carried out.She was a perfect example of how the whistleblower laws don’t work.

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        • Jett Black says:

          Too many of those “others,” at functionary levels were Clintonistas. They were enemy moles who killed GWB’s presidency with a death of a 1000 cuts. If they withheld or massaged intel that could’ve been used to prevent 9/11, God will surely sort them appropriately.

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    • TexasDude says:

      One of the problems we had was the Gorelick wall instituted under Clinton. No one could talk to each other.

      Yes, even Hollywood predicted Islamic terrorist attacks using planes, but no supposed serious person took head. One president was more concerned about getting hummers in the Oval Office while another did not appreciate the situation and first concerned himself with domestic issues.

      Dems effed us and Repubs ignored. Thus, 9-11. Under W.

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      • Jill says:

        BTW, Gorelick was chosen to sit on the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. She went on to Fannie Mae as a Vice Chairman from 1998-2002 and was paid over 26 million dollars. During her time at Fannie Mae, it was discovered Fannie Mae ran two sets of books which led to huge bonuses. She was forced to resign. Gorelick went on to serve on the board of Schlumberger Oilfield Holdings Ltd. from 2002 until June, 2010, during which Schlumberger aided Iran and Sudan in avoiding sanctions. Schlumberger was recently fined $232.7 million.

        Gorelick is now at WilmerHale.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        The various intel folks were sitting in their own corners, and there was State…
        The Cold War was over and lots of duplicative agencies were competing for the seats at the table – duplicitous too. Bush had inherited the Clinton State, DoJ and FBI – you remember, the ones who let AQ bomb the WTC the first time – and his team and the leftovers were just all in the wrong place at the wrong time. I blame Clinton and his half-assed krewe, they dropped the ball on WTC Bombing One and set the stage for TWO.
        It takes a POTUS a while to get his crew in place and working without squeaks and he has to live with what his predecessor left in place. Had AQ have planned the hit a year or two later I wonder what would have happened?

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      Even hardening cockpit doors would have been a relatively easy fix… Didn’t Oz harden theirs before 9/11?

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Problem would have been hardening pilots – do you think that, prte-911 – a US pilot would have stayed behind the hardened cockpit door as the hijackers slit flight attendants’ throats and moved on to passengers? To me teh best methods would have been to adopt Israel El-Al screenings but even now US airlines refuse as it involves ‘profiling’. El-Al hasn’t had a plane hijacked in over 40 years.

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        • SharonKinDC says:

          Actually… yes. Most are ex-military. Then again, if the cockpit doors were already hardened, it’s likely they’d have come up with a different plan.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            You still gotta be a real hard ass to ignore the screams that would have come from the passenger areas as the hijackers tried to convince the pilots to open the door. – wasn’t as if they were planning on getting out alive as it is. Now that the doors are hardened they will – they are calling the shots, we’re in a reactive mode.

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  28. I wrote this earlier to a friend re Trump & 9/11:

    Sorry for the DM but I’m answering your Trump 9/11 tweet
    I’m not answering publicly b/c I don’t want to give myself a headache!

    What Trump is doing with his 9/11 comments is tying Jeb to his brother’s unpopular presidency. Jeb has been trying to distance himself from his family name but Trump set up this trap for him.
    I happened to like GWB even though I don’t agree with everything he did but with these comments Trump is trying to finish off Jeb.
    If Trump wins the nomination you can bet that he’ll go after Bill Clinton for his failure to listen to pre 9/11 intelligence but for now Jeb is Trump’s biggest threat. He’s already taken him down but now he’s finishing him off.

    I am close to several people who work at high levels for Trump & have observed him over the years. Trump is very calculating & shrewd. Everything he says has a reason behind it.

    For example he may at first glance come off as insulting. But when he relentlessly attacks Jeb for being ‘low energy’ or Rubio for being ‘sweaty’ or Carly for ‘that face’ he’s imprinting word association into your subconscious. Now he’s doing that with the 9/11 comments. Jeb keeps walking right into his trap.

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    • TexasDude says:

      Fail to listen is what W did. Clinton criminally ignored and instituted detrimental policies all the while fighting and vilifying US citizens.

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  29. drdebdrdeb says:

    Donald J. Trump 2016
    Make America Safe and Great Again!

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  30. Jett Black says:

    From the easiest, though not the most reliable source, but on this point it’s got the key points and dates right:

    The Bojinka plot (Arabic: بجنكة‎; Tagalog: Oplan Bojinka) was a planned large-scale three-phase attack by Islamists Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to occur in January 1995. The attack was to include the assassination of Pope John Paul II, the bombing of 11 airliners in flight from Asia to the United States[1] (which would kill approximately 4,000 passengers and shut down air travel around the world), and the crashing of a plane into the headquarters of the CIA in Fairfax County, Virginia.[2]

    Despite careful planning, the Bojinka plot was disrupted after a chemical fire drew the Philippine National Police’s (PNP) attention on January 6–7, 1995.

    PNP passed the information on to their ally, the USA. Who was president in 1995? And for 6 years thereafter? They all have a piece of this, but Clinton’s is the biggest and nastiest.

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  31. clash108 says:

    I”m sorry, but Bush didn’t have a keen eye on Osama. His attention was focused on Saddam. In fact, after the attacks, he tried his best to tie Saddam to Osama It was all hope and no substance. Yes, Clinton left him with OBL, but when he took office, it was his inherited mess to deal with. And yes, Clinton had a great chance to kill OBL,. but it was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who planned the attacks, so they most likely would have been carried out anyway. OBL was more like an owner of a sports team, KSM was the GM. The plan was already in effect, it was just a matter of time.

    And it was a mess. Bush should have been better than Clinton. He wasn’t. Instead of making influential efforts to reorganize two bureaucracies and coordinate them (FBI and CIA), he did nothing. Instead you had two agencies that hated each other, didn’t trust the other, and didn’t share crucial intelligence. Instead of recognizing the problem of how easy it was to infiltrate into our country and take the steps to deter it, he lacked that vision. A President with his eye on the ball would have recognized these problems.

    Trump saw this back then, and he was listening to people who were shouting at the top of their lungs that we were going to be attacked on our soil. If he was President, the attacks may have still occurred, but the odds would have been greatly reduced, because IMO, he would’ve made the necessary steps because he had the vision that our real problem was Al Qaeda, not Saddam.

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  32. Justice_099 says:

    Actually the real story here is how people are arguing whether this was all Bush or all Clinton’s fault. Taking party lines of course.

    Neither of those people had your or mine best interests in mind, before, during, or after 9/11. The establishment is the problem and both of them were a part of that. They’ve got you all tossing the football back and forth just like they want.

    I’ve said many times how the whole destruction of this country will occur because every 8 years, we will blame the ‘other’ party for the damage caused and then feel good that we corrected the problem by putting the other party in place. But they are the same party! They all plan to continue the destruction. But depending on party, we look the other way when it is our side doing it. This is exactly what they want. It’s like people know it, but just can’t help but do it anyway.

    Stop being puppets people! Have we NOT learned by now that “party” is all just a charade? Seriously? Our country is bleep-ed up because of BOTH parties. Both!

    Until the American people can stop being so easily manipulated, I just cannot find hope that we will ever turn this around.

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  33. kallibella says:

    Isn’t it interesting how the old is new again, and how history is not passe but rather relevant going forward???!!!!

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  34. conservalicious says:

    Rush Limbaugh is talking about this right now 10/20/15 12.22pm on his show. I think he has been at the Treehouse again!

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  35. ThankYou,Treepers says:

    The known terror risk since Munich ’72 has been islamic terror which is called “jihad”.

    Trump’s pre 9/11 words of warning included neither “jihad” nor “islam”.

    As noted in comment above, even Hollywood was anticipating before 9/11 hijacked planes being flown into buildings.

    At the risk of loosing my welcome here, please tolerate the thought that Trump needs to grow from naïve to learned about islam and now is the only chance to stimulate that growth in him.

    Once elected, his need to be sensitive to public feedback ceases.

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  36. R-C says:

    And, judging by the volume of the comments on this article, Donald J. Trump has once again accomplished his mission: keeping his name in the forefront for another week.

    Trump 2016.

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  37. Emmalee says:

    “The 9/11 Commission tries to uncover what kept intelligence agencies from preventing September 11, it has overlooked two vital factors: Jamie Gorelick and Bill Clinton. Gorelick, who has browbeaten the current administration, helped erect the walls between the FBI, CIA and local investigators that made 9/11 inevitable. However, she was merely expanding the policy Bill Clinton established with Presidential Decision Directive 24. What has been underreported is why the policy came about: to thwart investigations into the Chinese funding of Clinton’s re-election campaign, and the favors he bestowed on them in return.
    In April, CNSNews.com staff writer Scott Wheeler reported that a senior U.S. government official and three other sources claimed that the 1995 memo written by Jamie Gorelick, who served as the Clinton Justice Department’s deputy attorney general from 1994 to 1997, created “a roadblock” to the investigation of illegal Chinese donations to the Democratic National Committee. But the picture is much bigger than that. The Gorelick memo, which blocked intelligence agents from sharing information that could have halted the September 11 hijacking plot, was only the mortar in a much larger maze of bureaucratic walls whose creation Gorelick personally oversaw.”
    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=12894

    “It funny according to the Clinton admin and the ‘mainstream media’. there was a working relationship between Al Queda and Saddam. The Clinton administration explictly refrenced Iraq in their 1998 indictment of OBL.

    How’s actually lying and spinning and flip flopping. Ol Fritz Hollings (d-SC) even scolded the Bush administration on 9-12-2001 for not seeing that Iraqi newspapers had predicted the Al Queda attacks on the Pentagon NYC and the WH (Flingt 93) a year in advance. Interesting how the dems and the media has tried to flush all this down the memory hole.

    First up The 11/5/1998 indictment of OBL that linked Al Queda to Iraq via the NYT archive:”
    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/threads/al-queda-and-saddam-links-before-9-11.37585/

    Rot in h$ll, Bubba.

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  38. Emmalee says:

    This is on you, Bubba. Hope diddling an intern which took priority over America’s national security was worth it.

    LIE some more, Bubba.

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  39. Emmalee says:

    “Al Gore may have contributed, in his own politically ambitious, selfish way, to the deaths of some of the victims of the terrorist attacks Sept. 11.

    Following the downing of TWA Flight 800 in 1996, Gore was entrusted by President Clinton to investigate airline safety. He was named chairman of the White House Commission on Aviation Safety.

    The Gore commission produced what most observers considered to be a tough preliminary report unveiled Sept. 9 of that year one that included tough counter-terrorism procedures.

    Gore sent a letter to airline lobbyist Carol Hallett promising that the commission’s findings would not result in any loss of revenue.

    In what can only be seen as a pure political payoff, the Democratic National Committee received $40,000 from TWA the next day. Within two weeks, Northwest, United and American Airlines ponied up another $55,000 for the 1996 campaign.

    In the next two months leading up to the November elections, American Airlines donated $250,000 to the Democrats. United donated $100,000 to the DNC. Northwestern put $53,000 more into the kitty.

    Following the election, in January, Gore floated a draft final report that eliminated all security measures from the commission’s findings, according to Victoria Cummock.

    Fearing more political heat, Gore pulled back the draft report. A month later, the final report was issued.

    But there were two things missing from the report, said Cummock there was no deadline by which those requirements would have to be implemented and no funding mechanism for ensuring that they were.

    Thus, the requirements were not in place Sept. 11 of this year when terrorists hijacked four airliners, crashing two into the World Trade Center, another into the Pentagon and crashing a fourth in Pennsylvania. In fact, they are still not in place.”

    http://clintoncrimes.tripod.com/ClintonsBinLadenGateMotherofallScandals/id5.html

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  40. Emmalee says:

    “When Clinton was advised to pass a law requiring that driver’s licenses for aliens expire when their visas do (so that a routine traffic stop could trigger the deportation process), the White House rejected the idea on the grounds that it would constitute racial profiling”

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  41. Emmalee says:

    “Myth: On August 6, 2001 Bush was briefed by the CIA about possible Al Qaeda attacks inside the US. Bush ordered no special precautions, and spent the rest of August on vacation.
    Fact: Bush Administration Takes Action

    The Counter-terrorism Security group (CSG) – which brings together WH officials with officials from all relevant federal agencies – began to meet several times per week, with telephone contact between key officials several times per day. ”
    http://clintoncrimes.tripod.com/ClintonsBinLadenGateMotherofallScandals/id10.html

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