NBC National Poll – Trump 28%, Carson 23%…

Lots of disclaimers in the methodology of this poll (pdf below). Consider accordingly:

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150 Responses to NBC National Poll – Trump 28%, Carson 23%…

  1. R-C says:

    And today we’re faced with the latest breathless “Trump is DOOMED!” moment–they’re up in arms over his comments re: Bush & 9/11. Sheesh. (Eyes rolling here.)

    It’ll be Trump in 2016, by a landslide, period, the end.

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    • Galadriel says:

      I’ve been reading threads about the latest Trump controversy today, and it always follows the same pattern. Trump says something controversial that could be interpreted several ways, so it turns into a never ending argument about what he actually said and what he actually meant. Then others pop up who say, “Well yeah, if he really did say it then so what, I actually agree with him.” Then it turns into a deeper discussion about if this is really true, and so forth. Then the people on the other side- the Libs and lofos start having all sorts of cognitive dissonance because Trump – a Republican- just said something that they totally agree with already. It’s hilarious.

      The discussion brought up in today’s controversy is how bad of a president was W and how much respect should we afford him. Yeah, let’s win by defending the W presidency, that will really work! Ironically, the people breathlessly telling us that what Trump said is beyond the pale are stirring up this discussion, leaving a lot of people actually agreeing with Trump and respecting him for having the guts to say it. Genius.

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      • mjalbaine says:

        I watched what he said. The shitty Right Scoop was appalled by it like a sheep.

        What Trump said is right. W was pres when it happened. If you’re pres that’s a serious job, don’t start fucking around. You gotta take care of shit and you gotta take care of it pronto. He could’ve allowed the FBI and CIA to share info again. I blame Clinton more for it but W still did nothing. So Trump is right and he was just telling the truth and anti-Trump conservatives (or idiots) are freaking out and trying to use this opportunity to take him down. Get real

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      • moogey says:

        It is the tried and true attack methodology by the Progressive Marxists. Take a case that can’t be defended totally one way or the other and head off to the races.

        Trayvon & Zimmerman & Brown & Wilson are two instances where we saw the same tactics.

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      • Stinky-Inky says:

        Meanwhile, the other guy named Bush gets to wear the albatross and the more he tries to defend his brother, the tighter it gets.

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      • SharonKinDC says:

        And Yeb! the idiot, bit on it… and further tied himself to Bush2. The funny thing is what Trump said was undeniable. 9/11 happened under Bush2’s watch. Even noting, ‘blame or no blame’… the fact is irrefutable. Unless there was a stand in for Bush2!

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    • PatriotKate says:

      Trump only gave a classic, accountable answer – i.e. “The Buck Stops Here.”

      Whine, whine, whine. Of course, it should fall on Bush’s shoulders. He was CIC, there WERE ignored warnings and responsibility must be laid at the feet of the right people.

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    • PremAmerica says:

      The interview was recorded yesterday, edited and aired today. So we don’t get to see the complete exchange. So, who knows what actually happened.

      But what was aired starts with her asking Trump, “Bush comforted Americans after 9/11 and Obama comforted Americans after Sandyhook… Can you do that?”

      It is a stupid question because Atilla the Hun could be President when something bad happens, give a speech, and everybody would say how wonderful he was….

      Trump’s in effect said “they were the President, they gave a speech, everybody applauded, so what?? They stunk as leaders…”

      Naturally, the Faux Outrage Industry is up in arms….

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      • 1american1st says:

        Haaaaaaa Haaaaaaa Haaaaaaa Trump is so genuine, he just tells it like it is, no matter who it offends and Political Correctness can go to Hell. What a breath of fresh air!

        Is Murdock peeing in his pants yet?
        Better yet, is Jeb peeing his pants?

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    • well, i wish Trump would bring up the KATRINA fiasco. that was on Bush’s watch. and was avoidable, infrastructure!

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      • SharonKinDC says:

        He’d have to rip that crook, Nagin to shreds. That rat b-tard was holding out for advance $$$ for the city (to dole out to cronies) before agreeing to the evac.

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      • rashamon says:

        Isn’t it the governor’s call to ask for aid? Neither the gov nor Da Mayor made that call.

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      • I lived thru Katrina and lived 40 miles north of new Orleans. I will never forget the helicopters! Actually it was the N. O. mayor that dismissed until it was way too late to evacuate N. O. and it did not stop there! Next steps in Commander in Chef Kathleen Blanco who was in CHARGE of the National Guard. You need to ask her why it took into the 2nd day after Katrina to dispatch the military. The President had no NONE control over her authority. Next, after mayhem was already in place, was the rescue of tons of folks. Ask what most of the police were doing in N. O. yeah, looting jewelry and other places that had high stakes boutte! They also hit the fancy caddy, vettes, and other dealerships and later caught in places like dallas, Houston, etc. Now do not forget they had many wonderful police who had to stake out downtown N. O. actually like fort apache and would go out and try to stop the killings and other bad things going on. At night they would get food, ammo, and other essentials dropped by helicopter. I know this to be true because one of the snipers who were brought in there by some of our finest soldier snipers I knew. He told me about some of the details. So do not in this case blame President Bush for this fiasco. Yes, his folks who oversaw were caught with their britches down but then Bush brought in General Honore and he did the JOB! Security and peace came back to N. O. and folks who needed desperate help were rescued. You can also blame the mayor for the many deaths in the nursing homes. It was a welcome sight to see the presidential helicopter (2 of em with the same markings) to protect the president.
        BUTT! It was on Bush’s watch but he was not one of the main players involved.
        brcajun

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  2. Galadriel says:

    With Jeb! at 5% I’m starting to think he’s permanently toast. No doubt they would try to resurrect him if they could, but I don’t know how you get back from that. And Rubio isn’t going anywhere.

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  3. don welch says:

    trump/hillary would make good theater but she is a lock.

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    • amjean says:

      I am copying/pasting what I received in an email a few minutes ago –
      its lengthy, however, will remind you of all the scandals, some of which
      I had forgotten.

      Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump walk into a bar and grab a booth. Donald leans over, and with a smile on his face, says:
      “The media hasn’t really tore you apart for that scandal.”
      Hillary: “You mean the Mexican gun running?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “You mean SEAL Team 6?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “You mean the State Dept. lying about Benghazi?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “You mean voter fraud?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “You mean the military not getting their votes counted?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything else?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “You mean the drones in our own country without the benefit of the law? ”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million and right after it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “You mean Obama arming the Muslim Brotherhood?”
      Trump: “No the other one:”
      Hillary: “The IRS targeting conservatives?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “The DOJ spying on the press?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “Sebelius shaking down health insurance executives?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “Giving SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 months later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “The NSA monitoring citizens’ phone calls, emails and everything else?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “Obama’s ordering the release of nearly 10,000 illegal immigrants from jails and prisons, and falsely blaming the sequester?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “Obama’s threat to impose gun control by Executive Order in order to bypass Congress?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “Obama’s repeated violation of the law requiring me to submit a budget no later than the first Monday in February?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “The 2012 vote where 115% of all registered voters in some counties voted 100% for Obama?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “Obama’s unconstitutional recess appointments in an attempt to circumvent the Senate’s advise-and-consent role?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “The State Department interfering with an Inspector General investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “Me, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?”
      Trump: “No, the other one.”
      Hillary: “I give up! … Oh wait, I think I got it! You mean that 65 million low-information voters who don’t pay taxes and get free stuff from taxpayers and stuck citizens again with the most pandering, corrupt administration in American history?”
      Trump: “THAT’S THE ONE!”

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      • taqiyyologist says:

        That list could be at least ten times longer, too.

        Hillary:”You mean the dead kids in Arkansas who knew too much about our cocaine trafficking?”
        Trump: “No, the other one.”
        Hillary: “You mean Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broderick, and Paula Jones?”
        Trump: “No, the other one.”
        Hillary: “You mean the Cattle Futures money laundering?”
        Trump: “No, the other one.”
        Hillary: “You mean the fifty or so dead SS and State Police officers who knew too much?”
        Trump: “No, the other one.”
        Hillary: “You mean Vince Foster?”
        Trump: “No, the other one.”
        Hillary: “You mean Whitewater and Rose Law Firm?”
        Trump: “No, the other one.”

        Regarding Hillary, I don’t believe in term limits. Prison terms, consecutively, that is.

        In a sane, just world. I can dream of such a world.

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        • amjean says:

          Good addition – I do some business in Arkansas and
          the people I deal with still can’t believe that Bill ended up as
          president with all these scandals although they are glad both
          he and Hillary left the state. Of course, even back then the
          media protected him. Everyone thought the Monica and
          rape scandals would do him in. However, the media gave
          minimum coverage to his deeds and tore in to the whistle
          blower, Linda Tripp, Monica herself and to the women
          accusing Bill of rape.

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  4. regedit says:

    Like i said -Donald s got it in a bag
    Am i hearing that this Bolton guy is Trumps foreign policy advisor?Tell me it aint so.

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    • amjean says:

      Trump did not – what he said in essence was that it happened
      on Bush’s watch when he was president. The Right Scoop
      posts more negative comments about Trump then positive
      comments about Cruz, their candidate of choice. Don’t believe
      what their headlines and commentary states.

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      • rondo says:

        Trump was implying it was Bush’s fault.

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        • Cameraman says:

          “Given all the alarm bells, I just can’t understand why they would tolerate the presence of two known Al Qaeda members in California,” says Wright. “Everyone in the CIA knew they were Al Qaeda, but they did nothing! Had this information been given to the FBI, they could have uncovered the 9/11 plot at that time.”

          The ultimate ‘blame’ lies with the terrorists but if Bush had paid more attention to what his intelligence services were up to then the WTC would still be standing. Call it blame, call it responsibility, but Bush must accept some of it.

          http://www.alternet.org/story/40005/how_9_11_could_have_been_prevented

          Anyway, this will have no impact on Trump’s campaign, just like all the other phony outrages we’ve seen over the past 12 weeks.

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          • “phony outrages” LOL! that’s true they all become an almost non-existent fleeting memory, till the next one comes up. they’re just throwing up anything hoping something will stick on the wall. but Trump moves too fast for ’em! he’s always doing and talking about new and interesting things. leaves the media’s heads spinning! and they’re so greedy they allow these endless outrages cuz it’s good for ratings.

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        • amjean says:

          Jeb Bush made the comment that his brother, George W. kept the
          nation safe. Obviously, he did not since the terrorist mayhem
          on 9-11-2001 happened on his watch. You can take it any way
          you want. Perhaps it would have happened no matter what
          George Bush did; perhaps he should have learned from the
          failures of Clinton regarding all the terrorist activities that
          occurred on his watch. Regardless, Bush was president
          when it happened. And instead of working on national
          security, he was reading a book to first graders. What is
          the number one responsibility of a president?

          Then, we learned that the terrorists were all from Saudi
          Arabia. So, Bush bombed Iraq, then got us in Afghanistan.
          The war lasted the entire two terms of his presidency.
          Trillions of dollars, thousands, if not hundreds of thousands
          of lives lost; and for what? Nothing good that I can see.

          We have to get over our “feelings” that Bush is a nice man;
          he probably is. However, he leaned left as president and
          this country is in big trouble both financially and with
          terrorist activity and war in the middle east all because of it.

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    • catmom says:

      Because no one could have predicted before 9/11 that someone would fly an airplane into a building. Really don’t care about the opinions at RS.

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      • SharonKinDC says:

        Yeah, ‘cuz when Clancy wrote a book with that very plot several years prior, it was clear it was impossible- a fiction!

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        • Jaxvillekid says:

          The problem is if Bush wouldve enacted measures to prevent it people wouldve been up in arms about it. More than likely the courts wouldve been used to prevent most of them to take effect. Like profilling . Look at how people react to our engagement with the enemy after September 11. If back before WW 2 got started, when Germany was getting prepared, the allies wouldve preemptively struck Germany how many millions of lives wouldve been saved. Osama Bin Laden grew emboldened because of our lack of an adequate response to Mogadishu. He called us a paper tiger. The enemy preys upon weakness and all during the Clinton administration we showed weakness. They will not stop until we destroy them or they rule the world. It’s as simple as that. You cannot negotiate with evil.

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          • SharonKinDC says:

            No, can’t negotiate with evil. You cannot ‘nation build’ around it, either, if the locals don’t have the will. In the ME, it appears the loyalties shift like the sands in a Haboob.

            Clinton rewarding the Wahhabists who ginned up the problems in Serbia, by bombing the Serbs and partitioning the country was shameful. Zero recognition of the balance of power and historical function of the Serbs in that part of the globe. Now, that the nation building/partitioning is done, low and behold, non-Wahabbists are leaving the paradise that is Kosovo…

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      • ColtLending says:

        That’s not true.

        It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to put two and two together.

        I recall at the very least, two instances during the Bush Administration where people in the aviation training trade in Texas and Minnesota reported to the FBI middle eastern men exhibiting a desire to fly airplanes but not land them.

        There were other head’s ups that went ignored during the Bush Administration.

        I think it is not a leap to say if individuals in multiple federal agencies were doing their jobs 9/11 might have been stifled

        I wonder if under a Trump presidency, Saudis would have been flown out of the country as they were days after 9/11?

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    • Rosies Seeing Red says:

      I think Trump knows his own supporters are not Bushies/establishment, so he’s not going to lose that solid support. Without actually blaming Bush for 9/11 but simply stating a fact: that he was president when it happened, he is now forming his alliance with all those disgruntled and “homeless” democrat voters out there. These are the people not too thrilled with how Obama worked out, not especially fond of Hillary, and certainly not fans of GWB. Trump is giving them a home.

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      • SharonKinDC says:

        The other plus is the underlying message is Trump will continue to say it as he sees it- regardless of political party.

        For those totally not mesmerized by the political class, it’s been galling to see things swept under the rug or ‘tolerated’ due to partisanship. Saw quite a few posts today, regarding MSM behavior contrasts between Bush2 era (everything was a horrible scandal, and often MSM peddled debunked claims) to the absurdity of MSM pretending Hillary’s Nat’l Security issues are no big deal.

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      • catmom says:

        The voter you describe was me in 2008.

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      • phil fan says:

        He’s going after Jeb and GWB on twitter now and I think you are right = he is giving people displeased with Bush/Clinton monarchies “a home” as you say so well. This is intentional and there are good reasons for DT doing so.

        Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump:
        .@JebBush, like it or not, our country needs more energy and spirit than you can provide! #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

        Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
        No @JebBush, you’re pathetic for saying nothing happened during your brother’s term when the World Trade Center was attacked and came down.

        Will DTs focus on Clinton next? I believe so. It will be a tune up for his clash with the anointed Hillary.

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        • andymilken says:

          Just remember, he always “frame” the narrative about all conversations. He is very good at it. The one thing I really like about him is he has a “finisher” mentality. When your opponent is down, keep them down. This “narrative” will also be “attached” to the Clinton when Bill had a chance (actually many chances) to nap or kill Bin Laden, he refused to act. We all know Hilly the Liar is nothing but a front for good old bubba.

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      • amjean says:

        You are very smart.

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    • JRD says:

      They are frustrated Cruzbots.

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    • Notmeagain says:

      Cheer yourself up, go the Daily Mail article (Drudge, Trump hits W), click on “best rated” comments–they are already coming to the conclusion that Clinton was lax in the extreme and Dubya carried on with his policies and people too much. Didn’t Clinton pass on his info when he was passing the baton? As I recall there was some trivial nonsense that everyone was focused on just before then, and after 9-11 all of a sudden people were saying “Hey, we should have noticed something.” As I said above, when the dust settles it will be on Clinton and Bush.

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    • stringy theory says:

      He didn’t blame Bush. He said W was prez at the time. This link runs with the exact meme the lamestream media is pushing. But, this will last one day and have zero effect on Trump.

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    • Josie says:

      Let’s consider that Trump knew exactly what he was saying and why. He made Jeb come out and defend W all family like. This emphasis on the Bush Family Dynasty destined to rule America hurts Jeb. A couple of days ago, the Bush family was all “I’m mad that Trump dissing Jeb.” (roughly) They are pissed I tell ya (roughly). Why, we can’t have Momma Brush upset that her child has been been criticized. It’s just not done and we are supposed to vote for Yeb over that slight.

      Jeb reminds me of Ted Kennedy. Neither has/had their heart in it but had to do it for the family business. Jeb looks sad and confused in every picture I see of him. I think Jeb comes across as spoiled and entitled, as does Barbara. This drew that out once again to Yeb’s detriment.

      Or not. I could be wrong. I enjoy it either way.

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    • snaggletooths says:

      trump did not blame anyone. The towers did in fact come down during 43’S reign.
      The only people who think it was awful is the cruz scoop.
      Trump just knocked Jeb off his last campaign leg with his stated fact.

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    • chili palmer says:

      Why should any American show deference for GW Bush when he showed nothing but contempt for us? Have you read the ,28 pages he redacted from the 911 report that to this day remain classified? Wouldn’t W’s reputation today be a lot worse if these 28 pages were released? Much happened before W was elected, but the facts are that he was no different/better than his predecessors. He was never America first. He was adamantly open borders. 12/9/2013 IBT article, “9/11 Link To Saudi Arabia Is Topic Of 28 Redacted Pages In Government Report; Congressmen Push For Release

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      • rashamon says:

        It’s very difficult to make informed decisions about those you elect to run this Constitutional Republic when you’re only allowed access to 10% of the governments’ information. What else are they hiding at the multiple levels of city, state and federal bureaucracy?

        I thought they worked for us. Dumb me. We’re apparently just blessed they chose to complicate the systems sufficiently and grow the taxes necessary to keep this House of Cards from imploding over their sheer hubris.

        I don’t see how OUR government officials and those who have controlled their strings for well over a century make us any more secure than knowing what the truth is so we can kick them out of office or jail them for treason when they misuse and abuse their power.

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      • catmom says:

        Exactly. Just calling it as he sees it. Trump 2016!

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    • BenY says:

      You can’t trust TRS. They are anti Trump because they are for Cruz only, and spin and twist the headlines and snarky comments in the article to dump on Trump. Also the commenters there, most not all, are vitriolic against Trump posters. and turn everything into a Cruz thread.

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  5. Maggie says:

    Over at neo-neocon under the heading,
    Bush Derangement Syndrome: left, right, and Trumpian,
    they are showing all kinds of statements made on video in the past when DT was a private citizen.
    How long until this is regurgitated 24/7 on MSM?

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  6. nyetneetot says:

    Every time I see the Hollywood squares style graphic with the arrow “Next Out”, I keep seeing an image of the old ‘The Farmer Say’s See ‘n Say toy….

    “And the RINO says…”

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  7. This poll show that Carson is sucking votes away for the GOPe candidates and not Trump. The GOPe with all their attacts on Trump is not hurting Trump’s numbers but is just moving the deck chairs around the Titanic as they try to find a candidate to rally around to go against Trump. Yes, in theory if they could form around one GOPe candiate they would have the numbers to treaten Trump, but that person would never be Carson. The GOPe would keep on trying to push Bush and Bush is a terrible candidate. Carson and Cruz voters would never rally around Bush. I feel that about half of Carson supporters are GOPe that are trying to find a candiate that will stop Turmp while the other half are people who could easily switch to Trump if Carson wasn’t there. So trying to sweep the field down to just say 2 or 3 candidates may just boast Trumps numbers much higher, especially when more people see how weak Jeb is.

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    • amjean says:

      I read that many of Carson’s supporters are evangelicals.

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      • And like me a lot of Trump supporters are Evangelicals and those Carson Evangelicals could easily swing to Trump if the GOPe knocks out Carson in an effort to rally around a Uni-party candidate like Bush.

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      • Josie says:

        Some evangelicals expressed concern about Carson’s views on when life begins (he was vague) and reports of him using aborted fetal tissue. He has a weird position on gun control too that hurts him generally.

        An Iowa based evangelical radio host and a leader of sorts of them (Steve Deace) said on radio that he and his were endorsing Ted Cruz because of those concerns. Their reasoning made sense if that’s all true.

        Sam Clovis is another evangelical Iowa based radio host who ran for Senate last round but lost to Joni Ernst. He is on the Trump team in a senior position.

        Chuck Laudner is Trumps guy on the ground. He has ties to the evangelicals by having been a senior staff person to Rep. Steve King (evangelical). He has a reputation as being one of the best at organizing for caucus as well as getting volunteers, etc. I think Trump is going to kill it there.

        At least in Iowa, I don’t think the bulk of evangelicals are Carson supporters. I sense they are either Trump or Cruz.

        Also,FWIW, it’s a myth that Iowa caucus voters are all evangelicals.

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    • stringy theory says:

      Good analysis and I think you’re right. The GOPe candidates are playing musical chairs while their titanic sinks. Carson is just the place the “not-Trump” folks currently park their preferences.

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    • WoW! i sure agree with you. i also think that. i’d say 3/4 evangelical and 1/4 Trump haters. and yes it could be as much as 50/50 as you said too. but when we look at state to state polls that is where we see the big leads for Trump. and when a candidate has large national polls but smaller state to state polls I THINK: MICHELLE BACHMAN, HUCKABEE, HERMAN CAINE. and they all have that evangelical vote in common, ergo the bigger nationals and not so good state polls.

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  8. Trump will be holding a rally in Jacksonville, FL at the Jacksonville Landing. That place is pretty sketchy…

    https://www.eventbrite.com/e/donald-j-trump-jacksonville-rally-tickets-19118699545

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  9. stringy theory says:

    Another one-day wonder of a controversy. Jebito is desperate because the sand is running out of the hourglass for his presidential bid. Neither this nor anything else the MSM launches will change my support for Trump. Nice try jebito bushito, but it won’t work.

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  10. Arkindole says:

    …no estimates of sampling error can be calculated.
    Probably the only true statement that can be made in the whole bag of dirt.

    However, if so desired, one could calculate the standard deviation of your dog’s poop over a thousand days if you wanted to confine the statement to the standard deviation your dog’s poop.

    So, rather than state that it was a selection of particular dogs, and their poop, and the standard deviation, they took the high ground.

    We still win…nanner nanner nanner.

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  11. TheTorch says:

    Donald J. Trump Massachusetts Rally in Tyngsborough, MA
    Friday, October 16, 2015 from 7:00 PM (ET)

    Live Streams:

    YouTube:

    MSNBC:
    http://www.msnbc.com/shift/watch/live-donald-trump-attends-rally-in-ma-546015299588

    Fox 10 (HD)
    http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news-now
    *This should be the best feed for audio and video as it will be in HD, but I have not got confirmation that they will be covering it. So I am adding it here just in case they do!

    Note:

    Could be a rowdy one if they manage to get in!

    Protesters plan to crash Trump’s Tyngsborough party – Donald Trump will hold a rally at Tyngsborough Elementary school on Friday night and NARAL Pro-Choice Massachusetts plans to be there.

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  12. FireAm 85 says:

    Between Cruz and Carson, their still providing a nice buffer zone for Trump. Not sure how much higher there is to go in this large a field of candidates. The GOPe can see that Carson is sucking up their votes. How much longer can they wait to get rid of or cut a deal with him?

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    • only nationally. carson not doing that well in all the other states like nevada or new hampshire

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      • FireAm 85 says:

        Yes, you are correct, so many polls, thank you for the reminder.

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      • andymilken says:

        Don’t focus too much on the “national” polls. They didn’t do a very good job last time in 2012 and some of the latest national election predictions. Nate Silver was able to predict the race in putting more weight on state polls in 2012, which makes a lot more sense because they are the people who actually will decide for their states. It is about the electoral vote, not the popular one. In my opinion, national polls are used mostly for driving momentum and branding purposes. He already has the latter. I believe this is the reason he is campaigning the old school way- house by house, street by street, block by block, precinct by precinct. Even though he is very good in leveraging technology to keep up w/ the mass via social media. If you look at his “expenses” so far, besides transportation costs, his “outreach” events consumed the next biggest expense. I believe it is very effective in the primary because you don’t have lots of “space” to cover, only the rep area, but it will be interesting to see how he will campaign for the general if he became the nominee. It is all about the ground game. We shall see. He is doing very well if one values state polls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016

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  13. Dora says:

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  14. 1american1st says:

    NBC’s poll: adults aged 18 and over
    Doesn’t say whether they are Illegal Aliens or American Citizens.
    Most other polls have Trump between 32 – 35%
    TRUMP 2016

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    • TheTorch says:

      Poll data looks very suspect to me, some of the responses to some of the questions look odd to me, I think this poll is likely containing more left leaning people than the demographics suggest ?

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    • yeah, interesting the Reuters matches more closely the state to state polls.

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      • andymilken says:

        I haven’t compared this latest poll versus the last one to see if they “changed” their methodology or not. The latest Faux one did by “changing” the demo composition w/ larger sample size (i.e., increase the 65+ demo by 9 percentage points). Also, usually they conduct their poll within a 4-week time frame. The latest one they did in two weeks after the “narrative” of Trumpy should have an exit strategy because he’s peaked.

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  15. Electric Head says:

    Trump is down 1 point since the last survey. He should consider suspending his campaign now.

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  16. TheTorch says:

    Oh dear this is very sad…

    Carly Fiorina has an event and she has poster boards on stage stating that she is:

    CONSERVATIVE
    OUTSIDER
    LEADER

    Memo to Carly, they should already know that – fact you have to remind people, is a rather big problem!

    Poor thing, she clearly needs to watch a Trump rally…

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  17. Sentient says:

    Someone please replace Spinal Tap with Jeb Bush

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  18. Trump is in Tyngsboro, MA tonight

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    • O thanks be to God, we were praying all day about his safety. it sounds great. and just think will bring more police force into the supporters, they will be hearing the Trump stump speeches MORE CONVERTS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • i love that “FREE SPEECH ZONE” for protesters. what a great idea and concept. and so fair. they better watch it too, they just might get pulled into the enthusiasm and fun at the rally! what would you rather do? stand around and moan and groan on the outside; or laugh and cheer and smile with others?

      love the “DOZENS OF COPS”

      GO TRRRRRRRRUMMP!

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      • TheTorch says:

        LOL Trump in his MA speech said something about they can’t extend a runway near a river because of the EPA, because they are more concerned about a tadpole!!!!! 🙂

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  19. I posted this on another thread but wanted to make sure everyone saw it. Please feel free to delete if I’m violating posting rules – that certainly is not my intention.

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  20. NJF says:

    Does anyone know what supposed gaffe Trump made against Ms Kitty aka Megyn Kelly?

    Had the radio on today and heard the tail end of a commentary that the Donald had renewed his fued with her???? Not seeing it being reported on.

    As for the GWB comment, the man tells the truth.

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    • dizzymissl says:

      It was a tweet because Megyn said Carson was leading in some polls

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    • TheTorch says:

      Well I don’t know what that is referring too, however I do know that Ms Kitty starts a feud with constant anti trump nonsense pretty much every night shes on!

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    • Josie says:

      Not sure if this is it, but I read she said in an interview that they had “overestimated Donald Trumps anger management skills.” She was making fun of him in her tone. I thought Trump might react to that, but have not seen anything on it as of yet.

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  21. notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

    For some time now, I’ve thought Carson’s numbers are faked up – by about a multiple of 3.
    .
    Plus the GOPE is trying to stir up the BlackLives Matter and Black Panthers for Carson I think…….

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  22. This is a really good article on Sheldon Adelson’s desire for ‘comprehensive immigration reform,’ Rubio & the future of the GOP.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/16/rnc-chair-gop-cooked-no-win-2016/

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    • jeans2nd says:

      From the article – “With Bush fading, Rubio seems to the establishment’s trendy “electable” pick in 2016…” plus “part of the larger maneuver to advance Marco Rubio as the vulgarian alternative. ie. Wall Street’s “fail safe”.” https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/15/wall-street-begins-extending-elbows-as-vulgarians-close-in/
      This appears to be the case. Was at Rubio’s energy policy speech today. He said all the right things, used all the correct words, had Plumbers/Fitters union present (think oil/fracking pipes, not bathroom). Never said “Republican,” always “conservative.” Mingled with correct crowd (not us rubes, of course), quite personable. And yet, stumbled several times reading prepared speech, and yes, lots of water. No sweating, tho, was 48 deg here. And he is way, way too young. For a laugh – arriving at 2:15 for 2:30 event, one of Rubio’s Cuban mafia denied us entrance, we were “too late.” Several argued, complained, swore. So this old lady Woman Marine showed the younguns how it’s done. We all got in.

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  23. drdebdrdeb says:

    This has got to be the most statistically wacko survey I have ever seen. I have used survey monkey to conduct surveys. I completed a research study and defended a dissertation. What are the 6 overlapping numbers in the left column? NBC does not identify them. There are 4 age groups and 4 racial groups. It is crazy that the age groups are as follows: 11 years, 14 years, 19 years, and 65 and older. I can’t make heads or tails of these results. Thus, I think it is about as statistically significant as the one Drudge posts after each debate. One can vote a million times if one chooses to do so.

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    • Sandra says:

      They even admit that it has problems. “Self-selected for participation”, weighting, and no margin of error calculations. Why would they bother to put so much work into a poll that is very fundamentally flawed?

      What’s up with questions 27 and 28? 10% stated they were Hispanic, but only 6% stated that they were of Hispanic descent. Am I missing something?

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  24. From a loyal Rubiobot…Eyeroll

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  25. Oh boy

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    • Jaxvillekid says:

      The problem I have with this comment is when Trump wins the presidency who would be to blame if a few more than afterward we are attack by muslims. Given how awful the policies of OBama are would it be fair to attack Trump? I could understand if it happened a couple years into his term but not so much within the first year. Btw I support Trump all the way and I absolutely believe he will win.

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  26. Nanny G says:

    http://news.yahoo.com/six-cash-strapped-republican-white-house-hopefuls-face-225408376.html
    Reuters is imagining that, because 6 Republican candidates are out of money, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, former New York Governor George Pataki, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham and former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum will all be dropping out soon.
    But won’t they be propped up until their leaving helps Jeb! the most?
    Wait, what’s 5 plus 3 plus 2 plus 1 plus three zeros?
    No where near 28!

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  27. sam says:

    Trump is a marketing branding machine. I see it throughout his campaign but here are a few of his latest. This month JEB! attack ADs will start airing and Trump counter it by bringing up 9/11 and W. Bush. When people see negative ADs by JEB! they will be reminded of 9/11 and W Bush. Counter a negative by a far worst negative.

    If you watch his speech in MA today, south carolina recently had flooding and they ask him to do a commercial for them(probably for donation and help) and he did it for FREE! That’s genius, during their time of need Trump came and help them, this will cement South Carolina for sure.

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  28. ZurichMike says:

    I read the first long paragraph of their “methodology” and the sense I get is: “We tried everything we could with dodgy and unreliable polling to paint Trump as a loser, but we can’t.”

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