Mark O’Mara MSNBC Interview – Officer Ray Tensing….

Posted without much comment.  Maybe I’ll update or expand tomorrow with thoughts, after lowered blood pressure, maybe not.  Believe me, there’s no comfort -NONE- in knowing you are right, and having it proven over time, when the outcomes are ultimately choices between the lesser of two losing propositions.

truth

  • George Zimmerman was transparently innocent. √
  • Officer Darren Wilson was transparently innocent. √
  • The Baltimore Six Officers, all, are transparently innocent. (ongoing)

….. and now Officer Ray Tensing.

My previous position EXPLAINED

cincy railroading

Maybe Nivico knew by posting that insufferable Mark O’Mara video it would make me angry enough to go through this again. Maybe not.

Regardless, this is how I’m feeling at the moment:

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147 Responses to Mark O’Mara MSNBC Interview – Officer Ray Tensing….

  1. Is O’Mara trying to “clean up” his reputation by taking on this case?
    Can this family afford his services, or is this pro bono?
    He said the family came to him.

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  2. Blase Blase says:

    Clean up his rep? Didn’t he get Zimmerman cleared and is helping sue that fat cow District Attorneyl for terminating her employee? That bitch, meaning female dog because that is exactly what she is, should have been fired. Angela Corey, sorry, her name just popped in my head…. You want to talk about as lop sided hypocrisy, they tried to indict these cops for what they perceived, without anything proven to show otherwise I might ad, was false reporting by attempting to “cover” for a “legit shooting”….., Puhlease, yet that, (sorry I have use it), that xxxxxxxxxxxxx Angela Corey, who we all know how many laws she violated, still has her flipping BAR card, OMG, I am so over this b.s. I am never arresting anyone unless they victimize someone else, otherwise how is that fair?

    I am equally disgusted and ready for some true constructive uprisings

    Admin Note: You didn’t have to use it. You chose to use it. .

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  3. bertdilbert says:

    So the union files a grievance and O’Mara makes it out to be lack of remorse on the part of Tensing.

    The grand Jury failed to indite the other officers but O’Mara thought it was necessary to regain public trust… What a jackass.

    O’Mara is marketing himself to the black community. Why not, there is more money in it when you have the extortion effect of black violence behind your politically correct settlement.

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    • Judgy says:

      That’s a great point, Bert. Imagine the nerve of that Tensing cracka–how DARE he, or more like his UNION actually purport to care about HIS rights, when there are 13 (13!) children left without a totally non-compliant, law-breaking father! Why, he should just roll over & donate his last cop paycheck EVER to the “Sam Du Boce Drive-Away-From-Racist Cops Memorial” (cuz you KNOW it’s coming). Perhaps they could tear down some remnant of “structural white racism”, and put a statue of the innocent Sam-in-his-car in it’s place? Progress, ya know.

      The BGI have no idea HOW Tensing may feel about this in his heart! That’s because they have made it virtually impossible for him to say ANYTHING. Remember the howls of indignance, and of “dehumanization” when Darren Wilson, who they all had been clamoring to hear from, referred to the terrifyingly large, crazed, shopkeeper-abusing “Gentle Giant” as “a demon”? Ohhhhhh, the completely unwarranted racism!!

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    • David says:

      I think the failure to indict the two officers is damage control. There had to be more people that called Cincy PD about the Video than myself .Tensings Laywer Stewart Matthews knows a lot of the stuff . I called him Monday when I noticed that Tensing fell out right at the white traffic sign about 25 ft up on l in thsteft. Also when Tensing spun around and pointed at the car, I looked in upper right corner for their tree, there is a house or some building that appears to be behind trees , left message

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  4. Lenfb says:

    Someone ought to share with O’Mara your screen captures.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      O’Mara is telling the story that supports his client. He is not going to sway his position to suit you against his client. He is not to my knowledge serving as a criminal defense lawyer for his client. 🙂

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      • Lenfb says:

        I wasn’t suggesting he be informed of it to sway his opinion.

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        • bertdilbert says:

          I said position, not opinion. As the family lawyer he is in it for the money. His actual opinion may differ from his public position.

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          • Lenfb says:

            In relation to my reply, it is a distinction without a difference.

            But let’s say your last sentence is true.
            If he representing something different that what he believes the evidence shows, he is misrepresenting it and is therefore not discharging his duties as an Officer of the Court appropriately.

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            • bertdilbert says:

              Factual versus Legal Guilt
              The key is the difference between factual guilt (what the defendant actually did) and legal guilt (what a prosecutor can prove). A good criminal defense lawyer asks not, “Did my client do it?” but rather, “Can the government prove that my client did it?” No matter what the defendant has done, he is not legally guilty until a prosecutor offers enough evidence to persuade a judge or jury to convict.
              However, the defense lawyer may not lie to the judge or jury by specifically stating that the defendant did not do something the lawyer knows the defendant did do. Rather, the lawyer’s trial tactics and arguments must focus on the government’s failure to prove all the elements of the crime.

              http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/representing-client-whom-the-lawyer-thinks-is-guilty.html

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              • Lenfb says:

                Now you have changed the goal posts to something that is irrelevant to what I stated. But I can work with that as well.
                This isn’t about a defense lawyer arguing about what can or can not be shown.
                This is about a statement (and an obvious belief) that can be shown to be incorrect by a further breakdown of the video evidence.
                The vehicle did move him quite a distance.
                For him to then say otherwise after being informed, would be him factually misrepresenting the evidence and therefore not discharging his duties as an Officer of the Court appropriately.

                .

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              • doodahdaze says:

                He can not put a witness on the stand he knows is going to lie.

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                • Lenfb says:

                  Of course. No one said he was.
                  This was about what he is representing in/to the media.
                  As the provided Rules of Professional Conduct show under “TRUTHFULNESS IN STATEMENTS TO OTHERS” (not my capitalization), he may not make a false statement of material fact. Saying the Officer’s statement was a lie is a false statement of material fact. The vehicle moved him a significant distance.

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                • bertdilbert says:

                  No transaction is involved so your argument does not apply.

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                • Lenfb says:

                  @ bertdilbert
                  You are incorrect.

                  The Rules of Professional Conduct are clear.

                  Again.

                  Transactions with Persons Other Than Clients

                  4.1 Truthfulness in Statements to Others

                  In the course of representing a client a lawyer shall not knowingly do either of the following:
                  (a) make a false statement of material fact or law to a third person;

                  To a third person.

                  Your argument is not valid.

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          • Who’s paying his fee????

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            • art tart says:

              Totally Domestic ~ This will be a Civil Case & imo, MOM is doing it for a 40 % contingency like most Civil Suits, (wrongful death.) I don’t know the limit for a Civil Judgment in that State.

              Another case MOM spoke of in the interview is this case which too would be done on a contingency & likely pay a fortune:

              “Three Indicted in Restrained Georgia Prisoner Mathew Ajibade’s Death”

              The Chatham County grand jury in Savannah declined to charge the officer accused of using the stun gun with felony murder, but it did indict him on charges of aggravated assault and cruelty to an inmate.

              http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/three-indicted-restrained-georgia-prisoner-mathew-ajibades-death-n381261

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  5. Judgy says:

    O’Mara refers to his defense of Zimmerman by saying that the Du Bose family knows that “he carries that baggage”. Really? “BAGGAGE”?? If he had ANY cojones, or cared about the TRUTH, he could’ve said that he had been standing up for justice! Oh, but then maybe that would beg the question as to what the heck he is standing for now–a complete railroading & trial-by-media?? It’s disgusting, and BEYOND alarming.

    I guess I’m just not quite clear on what exactly blacks are asking for. Do they think they should never get stopped by cops at ALL? That they should ALWAYS be allowed to flee if they have any pre-existing legal problems?? Cuz we’ve seen that hiring black cops ISN’T the problem. If they want a completely different set of laws, they should just come out & say it. And then say WHY too.

    The day that they produce a black victim who was doing absolutely NOTHING that could be construed as suspicious (and no, pointing a toy gun with the orange “safety” alert thing removed at people in a park doesn’t count), and who has NO record of problems with the legal system, or with authority, is when I’ll start listening with true empathy again. Oh ya–and also when they start caring about blacks who are killed by other blacks, like the black Muslim who killed white Brendan Tevlin in Newark, NJ, plus three other blacks in different places. He was indicted today, and the only place I heard about it was on FOX’s Greta. This SHOULD be getting just as much press as Tensing/ Du Bose–and would be, if the races were flipped.

    http://www.legalinsurrection.com/2015/08/Prosecutor-Brendan-Tevlins-Murder-Was-an-Act-of-Terror/

    Until blacks stop blaming others for their problems, and the media shows even a MODICUM of fairness in coverage, we have no other choice than to believe they WANT a double-standard. Or complete chaos. Or maybe both.

    It is sickening, and will not end well. Didn’t Obama JUST say something in Africa last week about it not being a good idea to have different laws for different groups of people??

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    • bertdilbert says:

      “The day that they produce a black victim who was doing absolutely NOTHING that could be construed as suspicious..”

      I have mentioned that a couple of times and referred to it as “the great black hope”. Until that day arrives, they will keep pretending (and sealing records of minors whenever possible).

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    • ackbarsays says:

      Just for the record, I think there was an incident like what you’re asking for in South Carolina. Remember last year, there was an officer who stopped a young black man and then asked him for identification. The man turned to get his wallet in response to the officer’s request, and the officer shot him. Of course, in that case, the officer was immediately charged.

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      • Amity says:

        Yep. Every case I have tracked down where a cop killed someone with no reason to think they were a threat, the cop was charged. John Crawford III is another one where a clearly innocent man was killed — however, anyone who watches the video the FBI set up, synching that lying guy who called 911 with what actually happened, quickly realizes that the situation the cops faced was not the actual situation. That 911 caller murdered John Crawford III using the police, IMHO.

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          • Amity says:

            Yeah, cops shoot white people for the same sort of things they shoot black people. Doesn’t matter what color you are, if you panic a cop, you can get shot. Micheal Bell in Wisconsin was outright executed, and he was white. That being said, in Bell’s case I think the cop did what he was trained to do; Micheal Bell’s father is furious that the cop who shot his son is still on the job.

            But it was the cop who shouted that Michael Bell had his gun who was at fault (honest mistake, but still wrong). And that cop is no longer working as a cop, because he committed suicide. Tragedy all around.

            I’m both white and female, I still got a, “how to deal with cops” lecture (a series of mini-lectures, actually). And I have given them to my kids in turn. Cops can be twitchy beasts at the best of times — and right now is not a good time for cops.

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    • Luna says:

      O’Mara comment proved Sundance was right. O’Mara is an opportunist and not a principled person.

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  6. Lenfb says:

    I haven’t had the time to check other threads, but is everybody aware as to why the driver was acting suspiciously?

    Report: Sam DuBose, Shot by Cop, Had Two Pounds of Marijuana and Thousands in Cash in His Car

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/03/report-sam-dubose-shot-by-cop-had-two-pounds-of-marijuana-and-thousands-in-cash-in-his-car/

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    • f2000 says:

      Chickenshit stop? Indeed!

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    • TwoLaine says:

      “Cincinnati police said Tensing asked DuBose several times for his driver’s license–and DuBose handed him a bottle of alcohol. Realizing he could have a DUI situation on his hands, Tensing asked Dubose to step out of the car. DuBose refused and tried to drive away.”

      I always hand them alcohol too. It never works for me either.

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    • Mentalist says:

      I read that article on Breitbart as well, but held off on posting it until I could find additional sources to substantiate the story.

      Search Warrant: Bags of marijuana found in Sam DuBose’s car

      http://www.wlwt.com/news/source-2-bags-of-marijuana-in-duboses-car-at-time-of-fatal-shooting/34533640

      And this blurb from the Cincinnati.com article covering the Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deter’s press conference…

      http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/07/29/publish/30830777/

      He said DuBose had marijuana in the car and about $2,600 cash. “He might have had marijuana, but you don’t deserve to be executed for something like that,” Deters said.

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      • nimrodman says:

        “He might have had marijuana, but you don’t deserve to be executed for something like that,” Deters said.

        Geez Louise – it’s bad enough when leftist morons throw out red herrings like this, now we’ve got County Prosecutors doing it?

        He wasn’t “executed” for possessing marijuana, he was shot for not complying with police instructions and putting the policeman’s life in danger by putting his car in gear and attempting to flee, dragging the officer.

        Just like most of the others weren’t “killed for a tail light” or “killed for not having a front license plate”. They weren’t killed for those reasons, they were killed by failing to comply with an officer, for taking on an officer and physically fighting with him, for putting the officer in fear for his life, and various other escalations on the scale of non-compliance and resisting arrest.

        Deters should be ashamed for such a low-intellect red herring.

        We would hope for better from our law-enforcement and judicial-branch professionals.

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        • nimrodman says:

          Ah, I remembered the other recent notable red herrings that were in the back of my mind:

          “Mike Brown didn’t deserve to be killed for jaywalking”

          No – he was killed for assaulting a police officer, attempting to take his gun, fleeing, then advancing back on the officer, which the officer interpreted to be another impending attack.

          And “Trayvon Martin didn’t deserved to be hunted down and shot for walking through the neighborhood while black.”

          No – he was shot because he assaulted George Zimmerman, sucker-punched him, and got him on the ground where Martin mounted him and was slamming Zim’s head against the concrete walkway and raining down MMA blows.

          There have been other red herrings thrown around since, but I’ll stop there.

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        • John Galt says:

          They’re usually ridin’ dirty, so pointing that out constitutes disparate impact. Crackers who don’t start the day with “wake and bake” are inherently racist.

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    • TwoLaine says:

      Curious, has it been determined and reported whether or not Sam D had a legal drivers license yet? Insurance? Was the vehicle legal?

      Or, did he just get a free pass to live in the shadows like the rest of the illegal aliens running our country?

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    • sixmax11 says:

      not good when you have already done time for trafficking pot

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  7. archer52 says:

    Concentrating on just the stop and the comments from “Judgy” above. The answer is yes, they want a different set of rules for their race compared to the rest of society. First off, “they” aren’t black people. “They” are “takers”. People who will not or cannot accept the rules of the society they live in. As Lenfb pointed out DuBose had cash- admittedly from drug sales- but he had cash. Yet he had no license, outstanding debt, a ton of kids who needed that cash, and no inclination to fix or address it. Because “those rules” don’t apply to his life, they apply to OUR lives (the makers).

    This mentality Judgy questions- “What do they want” is a separate but more than equal relationship with us in our society. They often complain out loud this world, this society is not theirs. They don’t like playing by the rules the rest of us created and follow willingly. They want to use our society’s assets, but not contribute to the fabric of that society.

    They want to do things like play their car music loud. Cuss and fight- like baboons in the jungle- in public, in front of our family and us just shuffle by, heads down not making eye contact. Steal, lie, cheat, do drugs and hurt people and not be held accountable. They want to RULE with their rules, over our society. How many violent confrontations we have heard about started out with them screaming at some poor soul “WTF you looking at!” As though being a thug in public was THEIR right. And us being shocked at their behavior is an insult and a crime worthy of punishment.

    Fifty years ago things were different. There were no victims of circumstance. You were either law abiding or law breaking.

    Let me share a family story to prove it. In the late sixties, my father was an athletic young man with a young wife. They had a small house in a quiet neighborhood. One night my dad wakes up to the sounds of someone rummaging through his young bride’s purse in the kitchen. He gets up, grabs his .32 revolver- some Saturday night special that he could afford- and sneaks out of the bedroom. No “announcing his presence” and letting the bad guy know he knew, so the bad guy had an opportunity to flee safely. He was on the hunt. He sneaks out and there is a black man stealing from the purse. The man sees my dad and takes off. My dad takes off in hot pursuit, out the door and down the street for about a block, firing his .32 all the way.

    Now the people are hearing the cussing and screaming and the gunshots so they turn on their porch lights. They see a white guy, fully naked- because that is how my dad slept back then- gun in hand, cussing out loud because he missed, walking down the middle of the street at 4 am.

    Their only question was “did you hit him?” When the deputy showed up he asked the same thing. No lawyers, no activists, no complaints, no front page news or twitter questioning his right to defend what he MADE from what someone was trying to TAKE. And everybody understood those were the rules.

    That morning my dad went to work as personnel director and hired black people, who wanted to work for a living, without a second thought, and many he guided through their careers. More than one of them told us years later his actions during that tumultuous time gave them good jobs and pensions that carried them through a good life. He knew the difference wasn’t color, it was if you were a maker- a part of society, or a taker- something to be eliminated from society.

    That’s gone now. WE are the bad guys and they are the ones with the bullhorns.

    At least for now.

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    • Judgy says:

      Thanks, Archer. I always admire your commentary–you’re very thorough & know many things that I don’t!

      You’re right–it was careless of me to simply write “blacks”, when I know damn well it is not ALL blacks who choose to act like this, and I should no more paint them all with the same brush than I would like to be considered a Dylann Roof fan.

      I will admit, however, that it scares me to think of how many blacks might choose to stand with others of their skin color, rather than with people of ALL colors who understand that we are a group of people who agree to live under a prescribed set of laws, and that if we keep making excuses or allowances as to why certain people don’t need to follow them, it will breed nothing but resentment & chaos–and PLENTY of mistreatment for EVERYONE.

      We are ALL being fed lies.

      Of course, it is pretty seductive to be constantly told that you are/ have been being treated unfairly, and that THAT’S why your life isn’t like the ones you see on T.V. And with these constant drumbeats of “Unfairness!”, and “Racism!” by the 24-hour media, I cannot know how I would feel, or what I would be able to discern as “reality” if I were black; if I HAD experienced real racism, or police brutality, in my own past, and how that might tilt my lens. I think about that a lot, but have been too chicken to ask any of my friends straight out. My buddy “Mario”, a hilarious gay black dancer who often works with lions, and who likes to pour shower gel in the hot tub, then drink Appletini’s and force everyone to make up insane song lyrics and raps, has definitely seemed affected by recent events, and is a lot more somber, & FAR less effusive. We all used to make super-dumb jokes about EVERYTHING in our little pack of multiracial, mostly gay ex-show people (I’m a straight female who ADORES unfiltered truths that come out in humor. Many/ most of my gay friends have BRILLIANT, amazing wit. One is even Conservative, and others probably would be, if they really thought about it).. Now everyone seems to be more guarded.

      The thing that makes me the angriest is that this entire movement started with LIES!! Of COURSE I understand & believe that police brutality has been an all-too-real and trust-crushing thing! I’m not disputing that at ALL. But what I AM saying is that most of the cases this anger is based around, and DEFINITELY the first two that started it, Trayvon & Mike Brown, were built on LIES! Proven lies!! And all the senseless killing, destruction, and rage stems from those FAULTY PREMISES (basically that white people WANT to kill innocent black people, for no reason at all, other than they just like doing it. That their hatred of blacks means the sheer joy of killing one is worth any problems that stem from doing it, and that the white person “will get away with murder” anyway). That’s not only insane, it is highly impractical! But I read & watch many black websites & T.V. shows, and while there are plenty of disgusting race-baiting liars, like Marc Lamont Hill, and Ta-Nehisi Coates spewing this dangerous crap, there are also a LOT of brainwashed black folks accepting it as gospel truth. And of course, the logical, reasonable critical thinkers are mocked, marginalized, & PUNISHED for “acting white”.

      Why the hell is following the law a “white thing”?? I mean, I understand what they’re (the BGI, etc) are saying–that this country wrote white laws to only benefit white people, who already have a leg up from their “white privilege”, and so blacks who comply with those laws are basically still slaves. Okay, so……….even if you accept that premise as correct, how is the very concept of NOT doing things that harm, or even bother, others (like stealing, driving while impaired, failing to pay people the money you owe them, and er–NOT r-a-p-i-n-g or murdering others) a “white” thing? Who still gets harmed from those things? How is THAT NOT RACISM??

      Unless maybe your argument is that blacks (and ONLY blacks. Jury’s still out on Muslims & Mexicans) have been treated SO very, incredibly badly in this country, that even the considerable changes we have made will NEVER be enough, ever (and even if they were, studies have “proved” that white people are just inherently evil, and that they all hate all black people, immediately and chronically). So if you believe that, maybe it then makes sense that you shouldn’t have to “Follow the White Man’s Law”, ever–even if the absence of those laws makes for a violent, and frightening society. That often appears to be what some are saying. It may START with thinking that being stopped for no front license plate, but those laws were created for good REASONS. The primary goal was NOT merely to harass black people! And we’ve tried to address laws that unfairly affect blacks since BEFORE Obama! Things WERE getting better!!

      Is it that they (the usual rabble-rousers) are saying that blacks simply cannot be EXPECTED to adhere to these laws, what with all the poverty, and unfairness, and the legacy of slavery and everything? That actually seems to be an argument of many Libs (but they “mean well” by it–that’s not racism! Just ask Kelly Osbourne! She ain’t racist–she even SAYS she’s not!). I know the Neanderthal lore, and the other differences that are often glanced on by other commenters here, but never really delved into. And I can understand why that is too. It is dangerous to state that some people’s brains could/ may be biologically different from others, etc. and I don’t think it is alarmist to say that’s how genocide starts. I don’t like being lied to however–especially when the failings of one race, rather than being quietly studied and properly addressed, are being COMPLETELY ignored and/ or excused, and then indignantly blamed on ANOTHER race. That is unfair to the point of unreality, but IT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING.

      I’m no scientist, so I don’t know what is, or is not true about the future time orientation stuff, etc. And I realize the REAL DANGER in discussing it here. I can & do look for patterns though, & everyone can see there is something terribly wrong in the black community (not excusing the many problems in white ones, either. Or in everyone!). It is only to everyone’s collective detriment to keep up the lies. More young black males will be killed while Al Sharpton and De Ray continue to angrily yammer on about lynchings in the 50’s. And even IF there are hush-hush biological differences, many, MANY blacks seem to have not been afflicted, or have overcome them. Not just “outliers”–I’m speaking of the people we DON’T see in the media. The ones who are too busy WORKING to chant, and break stuff! But the BGI-er’s, #BLM crowd want to suck THEM in too. And if they keep being given these platforms, telling people that “White People Hate You”, it’s just really scary, & REALLY, really wrong! THAT is the true “Hate Speech”, and it needs to be countered.

      So, for my part, I will be more careful about writing “blacks”, when I only mean SOME, not ALL, and when I DEFINITELY know who I’m NOT talking about! Sorry!!

      It’s not Black vs. White. It’s Law-Abiding vs. Law-BREAKING, and those who make excuses about them. It’s also Reasonable vs. Unreasonable–that’s not a color thing either! Thanks for “catching” me!

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      • nimrodman says:

        Judgy said: “It’s not Black vs. White. It’s Law-Abiding vs. Law-BREAKING, and those who make excuses about them. It’s also Reasonable vs. Unreasonable–that’s not a color thing either! ”

        Yes, but make no mistake: the dysfunctional segments of black society in the US are veritable assembly lines for manufacturing hordes of such law-breaking, unreasonable, “takers” (as Archer so helpfully distinguished).

        And I wouldn’t worry so much about clarifying “not all” in general conversation. Of course, “not all.” Anyone who’d slam you for failing to state “not all” is being pedantic. When we’re discussing criminality and societal problems it’s implicit that we’re talking about the criminals and the problem makers. Of course, “not all.”

        Higher in your post you bemoaned that segments of black society refuse to accept factual findings of such cases as the Mike Brown and Trayvon Martin cases. Well, not to sugar coat it, but that can come down to only about 2 explanations that I can think of. One – inability to reason or comprehend adequately. Or two – racism or tribalism within the segment of society that will not accept the findings; that willfully refuses to accept the findings. In other words, black racism. The same black racism that preaches whites are evil, whites mean harm to blacks, and that finds prevalent willing acceptance of that preaching. Not accepting the results of those thorough investigations by multiple agencies is racist, quite simply.

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      • flaladybug says:

        Judgy….I had to thank you for the comments you made about the gay men and your experiences of unfiltered truth you could depend on from them. 20+ years ago! I was a single woman living in Atlanta, checking out what “the Big City” was like. I grew up in NW Florida, so that was as far as my bravery/curiosity would take me. I didn’t know a soul, except for a couple of coworkers whose friendship ended at quitting time.
        One night I was so lonely I was almost ready to go back home when a couple of my neighbors knocked on my door and asked if I was ok. They had heard me crying and noticed my nightlife consisted of reading and ordering in. It didn’t take long before they became my “Big Brothers from Other Mothers”. After many conversations about their lifestyle, we agreed to disagree and that was it….no pressure from either side. They were wickedly funny, ALWAYS honest ( with opinions I sometimes never asked for) and the most loyal friends a girl could have asked for. Thank you for reminding me of them today…I laughed out loud when remember their FASHION ADVICE!! 😉

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    • AghastInFL says:

      Love, absolutely love your stories / posts Archer, undeniable truths in gentile prose:
      “Fifty years ago things were different. There were no victims of circumstance. You were either law abiding or law breaking.” all too true.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      “like”

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  8. amwick says:

    Mark O’Mara didn’t just step down off the pedestal, he just kicked it into the trash. Can I have my admiration back please? 😦

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    • John Galt says:

      I have always believed that West got Z acquitted in spite of M.O.M. I prefer lawyers who aren’t ashamed of winning.

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      • LOL

        I see what you did there!

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      • art tart says:

        John Galt ~ you are so right, Don West’s attitude is all about my client, imo. I’m proud to fight for my client’s right’s is West’s attitude! Although I thought MOM/West made a good team, it is MOM that has promoted himself/enriched himself from the case & West has chosen to do what he does best, represents clients like GZ that are truly innocent & victimized by the media/system imo. (I’ll never forget DW when he challenged Judge Nelson over her continuing to ask GZ questions. West saved the day again for GZ even if GZ didn’t realize it, West was relentless/aggressive arguing w/Nelson.)

        Just as Don West has proudly stepped forward for GZ now against nut job Apperson that attempted to take GZ’s life. I know West/GZ were thrilled to see Apperson has been sent back to jail over the “urinating on the neighbor’s door incident, where Apperson will sit awaiting 2 trials.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        Yes, this, absolutely. West won it in spite of MOM.

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  9. SouthCentralPA says:

    Have the other officers’ body camera footage been released? In what non-Euclidian universe does their footage not show Tensing closer to the silver car ahead? Are they trying to gaslight the low-information crowd, or what?

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    • f2000 says:

      From what I’ve seen, their videos show one of them getting out of his car just after the shot was fired so the video shows dashboard, not the scene and the other’s picks up a little bit later than that. There’s really nothing useful in them.

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      • f2000 says:

        Here’s one of the videos:

        I’d point out, unnecessarily to this audience, that what the camera sees and what the officer sees may not match up simply because the officer can look out of the front window and isn’t shaking around violently like the camera is.

        The other should be in the youtube sidebar

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        • DT says:

          I am glad you pointed out what the officer sees. People swear up and down the responding officer couldn’t have shown Tensing being dragged because his body cam didn’t show it. He well could have seen it happen.

          I think all those crying for body cams don’t realize that the body cams may not be the answer they are hoping for. In fact, in some instances, the views from them will be more limited than dash cams, leaving them solely with officer perspective in the moment in question. This is especially of note if dash cams are phased out as body cams are assigned due to cost prohibitions. Careful what you stomp and scream for, you just may get it.

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        • Another important point that many ignore; DuBose wasn’t simply driving forward, but had to turn the car sharply to avoid the parked car in front of him. This disguised the amount and speed movement of the car shown in the body cam footage AND showed that he was turning the car sharply INTO Tensing as he drove away, dragging him and putting him in danger of severe injury, almost running him over. This can be seen at 0:06 to 0:08 in the video.

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      • SouthCentralPA says:

        Cool. Viel’ dank…

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  10. joshua says:

    lack of discipline and behavior issues start in kindergarten with these kids and the teachers are not permitted to put an immediate stop to their acting up. If they did, the momma would be up at the school protesting with a lawyer in hand…and no one could do anything to socialize the little kids…they grow up with the might makes right entitlement attitude and momma taught them to hate whites and the males that came and went during their childhood either abused them or taught them to fight or shouted at them or just did drugs and booze in front of them and beat up their momma…no one had a job, no one respected authority, no one honored society or values, no one valued education or ethics. And this is what School Integration brought to our society and our schools….and for 12 long years various adults have had to endure up to 30 of these “untouchable and uncontrollables” in a classroom while trying to “teach” something. The kids could not care less about anything at all except whatever they decided was fun or rambunctious to make the other kids laugh at the adults or to show how they can get away with such behavior….they want to be put into “isolated detention” so they don’t have to go to classes and do anything…preferring to sit and listen to music on iphone all day. This is NOT INTEGRATION of CULTURE….this is IMPOSITION of sloven behavior and self righteous untouchable attitudes. No wonder the police cannot tell what they are coming up on when A BLACK PERSON IS IN A CAR…..stereotyping…NO…it is called observed experience and awareness of OTHERNESS.

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    • art tart says:

      joshua ~ you & I have discussed this before, you are entirely correct. The coddling by School Superintendents does start in kindergarten/progresses until the system can finally get rid of the problem when they become old enough to drop out because they never were there to learn, legally, they had to be there.. Superintendents prevent Schools/Teachers from suspending these kids on a permanent basis is appalling, after years, they get dumped in failing schools.

      THEN! Just like TM who was a petty thief/behavior problem/thug caused dissension repeatedly at schools, he just got 10 day suspensions, shuffled to another school, his parent’t never taking responsibility/addressing his problems .

      Failing schools who have almost entirely behavior problems in my city just can’t understand WHY their test schools are almost all failing scores, duh, the kids attend because they have to. I continue to be amazed at people that think you can make a child learn/teach a child that doesn’t want to learn.

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  11. jakeandcrew says:

    I had not paid any attention to this story until I read this post.

    When is someone in a leadership position on these police forces, or someone in a leadership position somewhere in LE going to stand up to this bullying and defend their police officers?

    From the chief of police to the county prosecutor, they can’t wait to bend over and help the BGI shovel this 25yo police officer’s grave!

    This is unfair, this is injustice, this is a national tragedy – letting these BlackLivesMatter bullies, who care nothing for black, or any other, lives except their own, run roughshod over the truth, and incite hate and violence through deceit. Do you let bullies keep on pushing you down? No, you stand up to them! I’m a 52yo housewife and homeschooling mom, but if I were in a position to do something for this police officer, I would! God, this makes me so angry!

    I watched the video of that traffic stop for the first time this morning. The police officer was polite, professional. The driver, also polite at first, but seemed out if it. I thought he was high on something before the bottle of gin came out. He was asked to get out of the car. Reasonable – missing license plate, not the registered owner, no driver’s license, alcohol in the car, seemed under the influence to me, maybe the police officer thought so, too. But no matter, when a police officer asks you to step out of your car, you do that!

    Instead, he holds the car door shut and turns the car on, and starts driving away! Crazy!$ Seconds later, the police officer shoots him. A couple of seconds, that’s all. Was this premeditated? Did he have time to aim at his head? Of course not! He had a split second to react to what this man was doing, and he obviously felt in danger for his life.

    And now, from other posts, I see he had marijuana and a large amount of cash in his car. Hmm – seems like the police officer’s instincts were exactly right, and he was doing his job well. And yet the chief or the prosecutor said he should never have been a cop. Disgraceful!

    And it’s not racist to say any of this! It’s not racism, it’s reality. We must judge and discriminate (it has a just and good definition, too) and discern by the words and actions of individual people, as if there were no color at all. Like archer said, his dad was not racist. He treated all men according to their character. A thief, he treated like a thief. Applicants for jobs, he treated as applicants for jobs. It mattered not what their skin color was. What mattered was their character.

    All. Lives. Matter.

    And the driver’s life mattered too. I’m sorry that he died, but it is not the police officer’s fault. It is his own fault for putting himself in that position, and breaking the law. It’s a risky thing to do.

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  12. stella says:

    Gee, never once did O’Mara say that Zimmerman, his client, was innocent. Must have been an oversight; he just forgot to mention it, right?

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    • Yeah, Mark certainly lived up to all the doubts SD had of him. He had EVERY opportunity to say that he took Z’s case because he was innocent and was being railroaded by a corrupt prosecutor, but In this video he sounds like just another SJW, ranting about the Big-Bad Po Po and how dey be repressin’ de brothas n stuff….

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    • sundance says:

      Make it bold because so many people argued about it and refused to accept back in 2012 and 2013.

      Gee, never once did O’Mara say that Zimmerman, his client, was innocent. Must have been an oversight; he just forgot to mention it, right?

      Because of the transparency of innocence, Zimmerman was acquitted DESPITE O’Mara not because of him.

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      • It took me a lonnnnnng time to see what you were warning us about in regards to Mark O’Mara, but (as usual) you were spot on. Had it not been for Don West, Zimmerman might very well have been wrongly convicted.

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      • flaladybug says:

        The comment that really caught my attention was when MOM was basically asked did he knew the publicity of this case would be so intense and he explained that “We see this in passing with other cases THAT USUALLY GO BACK INTO THE QUIETNESS AND THE DARKNESS”. Such a revealing statement makes one believe that his intent from the start was to LOSE GZ’s case, and throughout the intense sunlight and scrutiny from Sundance, Treepers, and especially Don West, he would have accomplished just that!!

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      • justfactsplz says:

        I would give this a thousand “likes” if I could.

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  13. Lea says:

    Lawyers today have ‘DREAM TEAM’ envy. They want to have cases that catapult them into iconhood (is that a real word?) as attorneys, be it defense or prosecution, (O’Mara, Rawlings-Blake) worshiped around the world for their legal ability to manipulate the truth, regardless of the fact that the clients are incent or guilty, right or wrong. It is all about the fame and recognition of the lawyers themselves obtain from the cases, not the lives and families of the accused, they are just expendable casualties.

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  14. Jaxvillekid says:

    After watching the video of the traffic stop I’m left speechless. When can a police officer defend himself? This has gotten completely ridiculous. I made the comment to my girlfriend during the mike brown incident that as a result of the bgi’s tactics more black males were going to die. This was going to be the unintended consequence due to black males believing that cops especially white ones were going to stand down more if black males resisted arrest by physically assaulting the officer. The miscalculation would be that no matter what happens in the media when faced with life or death situations cops will defend themselves out of survival instinct.

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    • What makes you believe those consequences (more black males dying) are unintended?

      IMO that is exactly what the BGI wants, since it guarantees a revenue stream and finances even MORE protests. It is also what the Progressives want, because it creates the kind of crisis they find necessary to “Fundamentally Change America”.

      Any more fundamental changes and America will cease to exist, for all practical intents and purposes. The phrase “Moscow on the Hudson” comes to mind now.

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  15. David says:

    Also another find on video ,there is a White pole sign about 25 feet up on left you can see it when Tensing falls @ 1:56 live leaks video see it when he’s falling and when he get up Stewart Matthews I spoke to him yesterday he knows expect hot time inCincy

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    • I don’t think anyone is debating whether or not the car moved, and probably even took the officer along with it. What will matter is whether or not the car was already in motion when the officer fired, and whether or not he had “reasonable” fear for his life. I believe he did, but the prosecutor will argue otherwise. This one will go to the jury. Let’s just hope they return a fair verdict, based on the facts.

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      • AghastInFL says:

        A simple logic question from the ‘porkopolis’ page linked above:
        ” Officer Tensing is heard in the video yelling “Stop, Stop”. Consider this: does someone yell “Stop!, Stop!” to something that’s already stopped or something that is moving and they want to get it to stop? “

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        • jakeandcrew says:

          Oh, that’s a mighty good point!

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        • Oh, I believe that he was about to be taken for the ride of his lifetime, had he not fired.

          It’s not fun—I know because I was treated to one by 2 thugs who had just robbed me at gunpoint. In my case, I was (stupidly) hanging onto the side of the car, trying to grab the steering wheel. If I had been just a little quicker, they would have been steered into a nearby tow truck, and then caught by the po po. Instead, I wound up on the pavement with a lot of road rash and some really sore knees, and they rode off into the darkness with my wallet.

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  16. Meyer says:

    I would like to add to the ‘truth has no agenda’ list . . . . . Officer Michael Slager, South Carolina.

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  17. David says:

    They have decided to use lawyers instead of lab rats . There are some things you just can’t get a rat to do

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  18. What troubles me the most? Folks being pulled over for routine traffic stops who wind up dead. How does this keep happening?

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    • AghastInFL says:

      Simple, they continue to resist arrest and or flee from authority such as in the Dubose case. Time for you to turn your fairness to teaching others to respect authority, the life you save may be your own.

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    • nimrodman says:

      Ooh! I know! Pick me! Pick me!

      Answer: non-compliance with police instructions, willful non-cooperation, combative attitude, sometimes escalating to physical resistance, struggle, or outright assault and fighting with policeman. Basically one or more of those behaviors along that spectrum of non-compliance.

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      • Sandra says:

        I’m remembering that recent “activist” chick yelling about how the officer doesn’t have a right to pull her over or ask her to stay in her car or whatever it was that he instructed her to do. Total obnoxious entitled b, she was.

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        • art tart says:

          Sandra ~ If you are talking about the Bland case, her family filed a Federal Law Suit just yesterday. The family claimed, “We have NO other choice.” DUH! What a money grab from a family that wouldn’t bail her out.

          Worth more dead than alive:

          http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/us/sandra-bland-family-lawsuit.html

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          • joshua says:

            AND SHE COMMITTED SUICIDE IN THE JAIL THREE DAYS AFTER THE TRAFFIC STOP…officer did not kill her. sheriff did not kill her….jailkeeper did not kill her….her family would not put up $500 bail to get her out of jail, so she just hung herself…suicide….so who ya gonna sue and for what???

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            • art tart says:

              joshua ~ It’s exhausting watching the scumbags come out from under rocks for a money grab.

              I think they are suing for wrongful death in prison because she wasn’t watched closely enough but the Jailers didn’t know she was suicidal or her mental health history. I hope they don’t get a flippin penny, I’d be surprised if they did.

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      • Absolutely correct. And the reason that this is happening with increasing frequency is due to the rantings by the SJWs, the “Hands up Don’t Shoot” crows, the “#BlackLivesMatter” idiots,and the vitriolic rantings of people like Louis Farrakhan and Al Sharpton. THOSE folks stir up the masses (and make a great deal of money doing it) and people like Sandra Bland, Sam DuBose, Freddie Gray. and Eric Garner are the ones who listen, then “Cash that Check” with their own lives.

        The cause and effect is this:

        Incitement leads to combative citizens who resist lawful police orders, and then to Police who react as trained. Which leads to MORE vitriol. Wash, rinse, repeat. BUT the BGI would have you believe that the equation is reversed.

        #BlackLiesMatter

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    • Sandra says:

      Because the people getting pulled over refuse to do what they are told to do. When a police officer pulls you over, do you flip out ? Start yelling ? Wave your hands around ? Demand your “rights” ? Get out of the car ? Run at the officer ? Run away ?

      I don’t do any of those things. I sit in my car with my hands on the steering wheel and I await the officer’s instructions. When the officer instructs me to do something, I do it politely. It’s not hard.

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      • Lea says:

        Maybe because your brain hasn’t been filled with all the donkey dung the professional agitators who work so hard to convince you (and everyone else) the police is an enemy? You Sandra, can still think for yourself and do what is right for you and the officer.
        What if these agitators worked AS hard at (dare I say) a real job? They might the be in a better place in their lives as productive citizens.

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      • 2bn3mr says:

        You would not believe(or maybe you would) how many times I’ve been called a “bootlicker” “cop-worshipper” for trying to explain this simple theory to people on Disqus comment boards. A certain segment of the population thoroughly believe that being completely uncooperative or even physically resisting is absolutely normal behavior.

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        • Lea says:

          As anyone can see due to resent developments, those actions as you have listed 2bn3mr, are not in yours or the officer’s favor in the final outcome. These people (police officers, yes they are people too) want to do their job and still go home to their families at the end of the day, just like the rest of the working population in this country.
          How many officers go to work in the morning and knowingly want to sabotage their livelihood, lives and families in a simple traffic stop?

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        • Yup. I see it all the time, too. What those people can’t get through their thick skulls is that the roadside is NOT the proper time and place to make an objection concerning the legality of a traffic stop. THAT argument is best made in court, if it gets that far.

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        • joshua says:

          they learn to do it in middle school and high school…argue with teacher, with hall monitor, with principal, with counselors, with coach, with janitor…..and they keep it after they leave school…

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Well, Sandra, I’m guessing you don’t have a police record as long as your arm, a wad of cash and bags of dope with you, babies that you aren’t supporting that a strewn all over the place, or any other illegal or immoral things. Right?

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    • mimbler says:

      You might as well say, “people who step out of their front door winding up dead”. It isn’t stepping out of their front door, it isn’t the traffic stop, it is resisting lawful police orders, attacking police officers, running, resisting arrest. People who comply with traffic stops receive a ticket at worst, a warning at best. Unless they are already criminals in which case they can be arrested (previous warrants, obvious criminal evidence in car, etc.).
      Mike

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        And, therein lies the problem. These people who get killed seem to be criminals, for the most part. And, I am beginning to think they really, deep down, believe they should be allowed to do whatever illegal thing they want to do. Lying, stealing, and beating people up are just a normal way of life to them. Just look at some of these people who are in Congress who are absolute criminals.

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    • What troubles me the most? Folks being pulled over for routine traffic stops who wind up dead. How does this keep happening?

      lol, there are millions of traffic stops every year in this country. How many people end up dead as a result?

      And seriously, you don’t understand how it happens when it does happen? Really? The video posted here on this page shows the driver starting his car and attempting to drive away with no concern for the cop at all, yet you claim you don’t understand how this happens?

      Sheesh….

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  19. wizzum says:

    Well the mask is truly off now. We all saw glimpses under it during the GZ trial and other snippets since then but now he has taken it off completely to display the money grubbing sellout underneath.

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  20. georgiafl says:

    Like Corey did at the post verdict press conference of the Zimmerman trial, calling Zimmerman a murderer after he was acquitted, O’Mara makes unfounded assertions in this interview in order to influence public opinion. That is damnable and unethical in a prosecutor and an officer of the court.

    O’Mara is acting like Crump in this case, aiming his efforts toward a very large civil suit against the university garnering for himself $$$ and notoriety.

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  21. VegasGuy says:

    Letjusticeprevail posted this above……”I don’t think anyone is debating whether or not the car moved, and probably even took the officer along with it. What will matter is whether or not the car was already in motion when the officer fired, and whether or not he had “reasonable” fear for his life. I believe he did, but the prosecutor will argue otherwise. This one will go to the jury. Let’s just hope they return a fair verdict, based on the facts.”

    In the screen shots posted above by SD, the PO’s right hand (weapon hand) is on the roof of the car @ 1:50, 1:51, & 1:52. @ 1:55. As engine starts & car put into drive, you can see Tensings hand move from the roof (upper right corner of that frame). That indicates that whatever occurred to cause the PO to go to lethal force happened at 1:55+. I believe the car began to drive off at that point. And the shot had not yet been fired.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/07/sam-dubose-shooting-lets-go-to-the-video-tape/

    There are 5 photos in the article. This post refers to photo 1, photo 4 & photo 5.

    In the LI article of the video, there is a clear screen shot (Photo 1), of the weapon approaching the window of the car. Note that the PO’s finger IS NOT yet on the trigger. We do not know where the PO’s left hand is at the time or if it was in contact with any portion of the car..

    Again, this is @1:55+ (as Tensings hand is off the roof of the car), and although the weapon is drawn, a decision to fire does not appear to have been made at that time IMO. Something occurred in the split second preceding the actual shot which indicated to the PO that he was in danger at that specific instant.

    Just prior to the shot., Tensing yells ..”Stop….Stop…” IMO, that clearly indicates the car is already in motion. And the shot has not yet come. Many have focused on the position of the parked truck seen through the passenger window.

    Just prior to the shot, the suspect can be seen leaning forward in the seat. (see LI Photo 4) The parked truck is clearly seen through the passenger window. Tensings’ hand is not on the roof so it is after the 1:55 screen shot. At that point, the Po’s position can be judged to be at or very near the driver side view mirror when accounting for the door lock button on the driver door sill. So he has moved further towards the front of the door then he was during the earlier views when his right hand was resting on the roof of the car. (see SD screen shots 1:51 thru 1:55 above)

    It may appear, at first glance, that the truck is in the same relative location & the car has not yet moved. But, if you look at the suspects’ physical position, the suspect was leaning forward in Photo 4 (LI) & is now leaning fully back in the seat in Photo 5 (LI). Notice the passenger seat headrest is in full view in Photo 5 (just over the right shoulder) verses the seat completely obscured by the subject in Photo 4. . Look diagonally right from the subjects’ left hand at the steering wheel to just above the right shoulder. That is the passenger head rest protruding up.

    In Photo 5, , when the weapon fires, ir is blurred to a degree. So either the PO was in motion or the car was in motion, or both, at that instant. Although the parked truck is still in both Photos 4 & 5, its’ relative position to the car has changed.

    The passenger headrest is clearly visible at the top, upper back of the subject in LI Photo 4 when he was leaning forward..

    If you look at the door lock on the top ridge of the car door, you can see that the PO was further forward of that point in Photo 4 & the truck was viewed directly through both the driver & passenger window. The positioning now has the door lock moved closer to Tensings’ position.So, Tensing moved a bit to the fear of the door OR the car moved forward. IMO, considering the …”Stop…Stop….” command, it was the car already moving at that point.

    In LI Photo 5, the postion of Tensing has moved a bit further to the rear of the driver door (away from the side view mirror) & the view of the truck is now at the position that the subjects’ head would have occupied had he now been leaning forward rather than fully leaning back in the seat. IMO, the car was clearly in motion prior to the shot being fired and the car was already moving forward at that point.

    Additionally, the view of the PO’s weapon & feet on the ground (SD’s screen shots at top of thread) @ 1:59, show Tensing completely turned around 180 degrees from the position of the subjects car. He clearly was not dropped to the ground by the recoil of his weapon. The inertia of forward motion, had enough force to turn him 180 degrees, & put him on the ground. What is unknown yet is was Tensing holding on to the car, or did the car actually hit him, or did some piece of his equipment get caught up on the car. But he did not merely fall backwards. .He experienced enough force to have been spun around 180 degrees from his last position.

    Note @ the 1:59 view, the guard barrier on the side walk & the completely different vehicle. With some clear shots of that side of the street, the sign post base could, relative to the drive way where the truck was parked, give evidence of just how far he & the car traveled before he landed on the ground.

    We also see, @ 2:00 screen shot (SD above), that the PO, when rising, appears to be much closer to the car that was well ahead & parked in prior screen shots. No question he traveled some distance from where the stop initiated. Note in the full video after he rises, you can see the drive way where the truck was parked is now many feet to the right of the Officer, when initially it was left of where the stop occurred.

    Sorry for the long post….I tend to get overly detailed. This may be a starting point for additional detail analysis.

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    • I am wondering if Dubose had grabbed Tensing’s left arm, or clothing, with the intention of holding onto Tensing and dragging him beside the car at high speed. Is Tensing’s left hand (or arm) visible in any of the video, or stills?

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      • VegasGuy says:

        That is a definite possibility. As I said in my prior post, there is no indication of where his left hand was at the instant. There are multiple possibilities here.

        He (Tensing) may have grabbed onto the sterring wheel to turn it into the curb, the suspect could have grabbed his arm & held on as he sped off, Tensings’ arm could have become intangled into the steering whell as the subject turned the wheel to go away from the curb, etc.

        That said, IMO, the car was in motion prior to the shot. The shot was in reaction to something that occurred or something the suspect did. Tensing was dragged some distance while in contact with the car. The dragging was observed by the responding officer. The street was completely within his field of vision as he approached, dispite his body cam pointing at the unit’s interior. All evidence supports Tensings’ version from what I have seen so far.

        Of course, “supports” does not mean “proves”.

        No other way Tensing winds up in the location he is in a sitting position at, & facing the opposite side of the street. at least 10 feet forward of where the car was parked at.unless he & the car moved together for a distance.

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      • Amity says:

        Tensing’s left hand and arm flail through camera range a few times; he’s either panicked or trying to keep his balance. I don’t think DuBose is dragging him; Tensing said he was caught by the steering wheel at one point, but really it wouldn’t take much once he was knocked off balance while still partially in the car. DuBose would be steering toward him to get around the car parked in front of his, pushing Tensing back, so even if Tensing’s arm wasn’t actually caught on anything it might feel that way because he couldn’t get out.

        I don’t see any evidence DuBose intended to hold or drag Tensing, but OTOH I think he was willing to run over Tensing or otherwise do whatever it took to get out of there.

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        • Amity says:

          To clarify — I don’t think DuBose is intentionally holding Tensing to drag him. I DO think Tensing got dragged, but that wasn’t DuBose’s primary intent. DuBose just wanted to get away.

          So I don’t think DuBose actively attacked Tensing, but I still think the shoot was justified because DuBose endangered Tensing. From where I stand, Tensing was legitimately in fear for his life when he squeezed the trigger.

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          • VegasGuy says:

            “I still think the shoot was justified because DuBose endangered Tensing”

            I tend to agree with that. Considering that Tensing still had control of the weapon when he went down, the fact that there is no clear indication of where his left hand was at the instant, and the clear fact that he traveled some distance to where he finally fell to the ground, all idicate, IMO, that he & the car were at some point “attached”.

            Any push off from his initial position as the car initially began to move would have exerted rearward motion away from the car & rearward motion from his position at the window. That woukd have put Tensing on the ground well before the drive way cut.

            Considering he wound up well forward of the cars’ parked position kind of eliminates a mere quick bump by the car as it sped off as being the reason he fell to the ground. There had to be some form of forward inertia involved.

            That could only occur if he & the car initially moved as a unit & he then became dislodged while still having forward motion. Like I pointed out in a prior post, in the video the drive way where the truck was parked was quite a bit behind the location that he rose off the ground from.

            So I have to agree that Tensing experienced or believed imminent danger to hinself that caused the use of lethal force.

            FWIW…..

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      • DuBose turned the car sharply to the left as he took off, to avoid the parked car in from of him, pinning Tensing up against his car, dragging him. This is one reason there is little apparent forward movement in the body cam video, the other being that Tensing and his cam were moving along with the car.

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  22. springstreet says:

    I was once stopped for going 55 in what turned out to be a 45 mph zone. The officers were very polite but took a long time running my plates … so I started to clean up the mess in my front seat. Then, as I looked in the mirror, the two officers were approaching with their hands on their holsters. They thought I was reaching for a gun!. At first, I laughed that a little milk toast like me could be thought of as a threat … then I started to feel very sorry that our police have to view society with such apprehension. We rightly have special rules for our police protectors … because they aren’t paid to have “fair fights” and then go home in a coffin. Hopefully, some lawyers, judges and juries will remember this.

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  23. cohibadad says:

    I thought the comment about raising blood pressure might be a little exaggerated, until I watched the video. What a loser. Losing trust in police due to what has been happening for the past 3 years and in fact decades? Wow. He is the BGI.

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  24. 1hear2learn says:

    Wow, putting it mildly, what a piece of work MOM is. How great would it be if West took Tensing on as a client and whip MOM’s butt?

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    • 1hear2learn says:

      If I was MOM, you couldn’t pay me enough to have a dialog, let alone pose with Crumy for a photo.

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      • 1hear2learn says:

        Meant Crump, but Crum may be more accurate. 😉 And not just because they were adversaries in a hard fought battle, but because of the lack of
        Integrity, and methods employed, by Crump and his ilk. I could respect an opponent I lost to if I lost on the merits, but when opponents instead employ out right deception, I want nothing to do with them. These days that makes me not a good game player, but at least I can live with myself. And yes I know that technically the battle was with the prosecutors and not Crump, but make no mistake that Crump played a large part in that and was indeed an opponent in GZ case.

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  25. nivico says:

    “Maybe Nivico knew by posting that insufferable Mark O’Mara video it would make me angry enough to go through this again. Maybe not.”

    Argh… sorry, it wasn’t my intent to start another discussion about Tensing/DuBose.

    What bothered me about the video, and stella touched on this upthread, was the way MoM was dragging his former client into the discussion of his current case… and not in a favorable way.

    He spoke of his representation of Zimmerman as if it was some sort of aberration on his otherwise spotless career, and his commenting that “Zimmerman started all this” without further elaboration that Zimmerman was innocent really seemed to cross the line.

    If MoM doesn’t feel that he can represent his current client without distancing himself from a former client, then he needs to withdraw from his representation of his current client. An attorney’s ethical and professional duty to a former client always takes priority over any present or future client or case the attorney wishes to take on.

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    • VegasGuy says:

      “Argh… sorry, it wasn’t my intent to start another discussion about Tensing/DuBose”

      I think it is warranted due to one statement made by MoM that was really out of line.

      Regarding whether responding officers “lied” about what they claim to have witnessed, & O’Mara saying that this was a corroboration of an obvious lie places him in the category of the BGI…I’m am shocked by his statements.

      He should ( and I’m sure does) know better. But, representing the family does place him in the position of placing their interests ahead of any witness or defendant. Just so out of character for O’Mara….

      While MoM did say there is certainly evidence that was provided to the Gj that we are not prevy to, what is clear video evidence produced to date does not warrant his ststement.

      The responding officers’ body cam is showing the interior of his unit at arrival. The incident already occurred. Whatever the officer may or may not have seen through his field of vision upon approach is not captured on video that we have at this time. Neither does MoM have such “proof” of a colabboration of a lie.

      So to state that this is a corroboration of a lie is really premature without additional evidence or without the officer recanting his version of what he says he “saw”.

      Really disappointed in the lack of prudence on the part of MoM.
      .

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  26. archer52 says:

    Re-posting, didn’t take sorry.

    Understand that attorneys live by the “law” and that is it. No moral imperative, no ethics, no common sense. That is why by letting lawyers be politicians and leaders we have doomed our nation. They don’t see the big picture of good vs evil because that is subjective in their training.

    That said, Mark O’Mara took a hit when he defended Zimmerman against ALL of the state of Florida and the DOJ and Obama’s personal desires to make Zimmerman a scapegoat. This is akin to standing up to Mao in China. He may be trying to rehab his ability to make a living.

    He does what he does because he is lawyer. And as my partner said when I used to fantasize about choking them slowly- (and I paraphrase) “You have to remember who they are. They are people who spent a hundred thousand dollars and four years of their lives to unlearn any morality, ethics or common sense they had. If they could count they would be CPAs, if they could measure, they would be engineers. All they can do is argue.”

    And if you are in trouble, what you want, and what you will hire is the attorney that will win and keep you out of jail or win your case. It is a sorry system, twisted out of shape back in the early sixties and it hasn’t repaired itself since.

    As far as the shooting. He’s going to jail in TODAY’S environment. Why? What did he do wrong? Well, the driver had two pounds of weed and cash. We have accepted, because of our changing values, that weed is good. So shooting a black man for being a weed dealer is a bad thing. The driver had cash- again, not a lethal error (unless you are a legit white business owner “structuring” deposits!). The driver’s license was bad. So? California is issuing DL’s to illegals like dumping out boxes of Chiclets.

    So what did the young, black, male, thug driver do that required the officer to reach in the car- get hung up inside- and then kill the young, black, male, thug driver? Seriously. In this day and age what was that young officer thinking? The second he engaged that driver he was already one half step from the edge of the abyss, add the body camera and there is no room for questionable judgment or error.

    THAT is our world. That is the world of police officers everywhere.

    I have said before if the police are forced to record their actions, then they should be able to record the other person’s actions and post it online for all to see. Have a “Idiotthug.com” website created and have police departments post every day the type of cr*p they have to go through. Change the perception of the “aggrieved, put upon, victim of police harassment” in the public eye.

    We know how they are because we see them. Most citizens never make contact with thugs and believe the lies told to them by the MSM. That changes, the public’s demands change, the politicians (who are lawyers) will change with them.

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  27. justfactsplz says:

    Like Sundance, I am nursing a spike in blood pressure. SMH and wanting to upchuck. I feel like I swallowed a peach pit. Sundance is right about being right. It doesn’t always feel good. I have taken a lot of flack from bloggers and rino family members over my criticism of MOM. MOM refused to go “there” for George so I refuse to go to MOM’s “there” in this video. Nuff said.

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  28. ZurichMike says:

    Mark O’Mara is a self-centered self-promoter, and would chuck any of his clients under the bus to stay in the good graces of the BGI and leftist media. He is sickening. On the other hand, he is not aging well, and those ridiculously white, large, perfectly straight capped teeth juxtaposed with his sagging, crinkly face and bad dye job over an even worse haircut make him look like the fame-chasing legal whore he is. Mr. O’Mara, your 15 minutes of fame is up.

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    • Eskyman says:

      That’s another video clip that shows how much MOM is part of the BGI.

      I don’t know Malzberg, nor do I know what station he’s on, but I was pleasantly surprised that he wasn’t accepting MOM’s barefaced lies. Not common in the MSM! 😉

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  29. ThankYou,Treepers says:

    Professional climbing by O’Mara from charging by the hour for representing criminal defendants to having a contingent fee arrangement with plaintiffs in a wrongful death action.

    So he’s simply trying to catch up with his buddy Crump economically by getting in on the potentially more lucrative percentage action as opposed to the piecework he’s done all his career.

    That means now he’s trying to be a shakedown artist where in the past he was simply trying to protect the rights of the accused or spring the perps, depending on how you want to look at it.

    Either way, he makes clear this stock in trade is staying in favor with blacks, thus the term “baggage” regarding the GZ acquittal.

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  30. Jay Cincinnati says:

    It’s amazing that the news hides (or downplays) the 2 lbs of pot and $2,600 in cash in his car, and this dirtbag having 13 children (later reports say upwards of 20). I bet dollars to donuts that we the taxpayer paid for each child’s birth and every welfare dollar of their “upbringing”. Makes me so mad, these delinquent fathers that WE must pick up the pieces afterward… I say bring back the workhouse and demand that mothers put father’s names on birth cert., and if the man fights it, DNA can prove it. MAKE them be financially RESPONSIBLE, not us. This guy was a complete POS. Thoughts?

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  31. revbacon says:

    There were many decisions that O’Mara made during the GZ trial that had me scratching my head. He could have gotten a speedy trial and an acquittal before Obama’s election, for one. There were others. Sundance and Cashill have both been lukewarm on him (at best) while shouting about his client’s innocence (GZ). Occam’s razor says that most likely he’s just a snake in the grass who won the GZ case in a way that would preserve his ideological agenda; or, in fact, he may not have an ideological agenda but purely a professional one, and that’s more like a Benjamin Crump than I was willing to admit.

    It sure sounds like he threw Zimmerman under the bus there, and did not say that he was innocent as he had said during the GZ trial. He said he gave his client the best defense possible.

    This is pretty disheartening.

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  32. kinthenorthwest says:

    Something Really Really Stinks about O’Mara and this mess

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