National Media Video Accidentally Catches Contraband Being Smuggled Into New York Prison….

Regarding the super security in the New York prison system – This is downright hilarious.

During Fox’s Greta Van Susteren show, “On The Record” Greta was having a split screen conversation with a reporter about the New York prison break.

In the background of the live shot, a man is captured walking across the street with a bag toward the wall of the prison, a rope drops down and the man connects the rope to the bag.  The bag is then hoisted up and over the wall as the man walks nonchalantly away.

Watch:

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106 Responses to National Media Video Accidentally Catches Contraband Being Smuggled Into New York Prison….

  1. CrankyinAZ says:

    wipes tears from eyes… I’m dying from laughing! How did the contraband get into the prison?? No freakin’ idea!! Keystone prison guards! ROTFLOL!!

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  2. partyzantski says:

    This is SO WRONG, I don’t even know where to begin!
    The Warden has lost control of that place, the inmates run it now. This will be fodder for SNL and other such “comedy”.
    How does the State of New York hire such incompetent boobs? (well,they DID elect Cuomo, DiBlasio… so many others)

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    • mazziflol says:

      So whos gonna own up to (or be blamed for) this blunder?

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    • Millwright says:

      PZ: Word of experience. Inmates ‘run’ all prisons. In practice this is worked out on a ‘quid pro quo’ basis between the administration, custody and inmates. Administrators come and go. unsworn staff and Custody less so unless they screw up. (And there are lots and lots of ways to do this.) Inmates, OTOH, are forever. And those ‘timing out’ sell their businesses just like outside. Too bad that ‘bag man’ was so stupid. Now another conduit will have to opened. Meanwhile a lot of strung out individuals are going to cause problems until business resumes.

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      • partyzantski says:

        Millwright,
        That is some sound knowledge you lay out there. The image of prisons v. the reality is shocking.
        Your description of how admin comes and goes, but the core remains the same reminds me of the Federal civil servants I knew. Whenever someone rolled in with a crazy agenda, they’d just wait him out and slow roll him. I would be a fool to think prisoners were otherwise.
        The brazenness of this and the ho-hum execution of his smuggling is a great backdrop to the news segment.

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    • Marcia Guess says:

      RIGHT ON………………………………………………./M

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  3. Karen says:

    Greta came back and said the prison said it was an expected delivery. I still think it looks pretty sketchy!

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    • partyzantski says:

      That makes it worse… the prison administration regularly and expects a schedule of contraband getting hoisted over the wall? What is wrong with walking it through the door? VERY sketchy…. what PRISON allows random material to get hoisted over the wall with a rope?????

      As an analysis of competing hypotheses, the guy could be a utility worker passing tools to a co-worker. Please, let it be that and not the first case. But, this is NY….. probably the first case 😦

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    • dginga says:

      Boy, that’s a stretch. I would think legitimate deliveries would come in through the front gate. Seems to me that the warden at that place needs a permanent unpaid vacation.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      […]prison said it was an expected delivery.
      Is this the “Prison Mail Service”? What were they expecting? Is that lunch for one of the Guards in the guard tower there?

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  4. auscitizenmom says:

    I was watching when Greta said that this was a normal delivery. I don’t know if she was joking or what. I couldn’t find it.

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  5. freegz says:

    More likely delivery to guard tower.

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    • CrankyinAZ says:

      Uh.. no. Not even. Anything going to a guard tower would go through the normal route INSIDE the prison – through official routes and channels. This can only be contraband. (Drugs – tools – ???)

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      • NYER1234 says:

        According to reports in local papers, the security was lax even for the items going inside through what you call normal channels. The prison personnel were not required to walk through metal detectors and bag checks were performed in a perfunctory manner. And according to the source, that is true in all of NY’s prisons, not just at Dannemora.

        Visitors are often blamed for bringing in contraband but they are subject to very strict screening, much more strict than the employees. Visitors probably do some smuggling but most of the contraband cell phones are brought in by employees – visitors must go through metal detectors which makes phone smuggling pretty difficult.

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      • Lenfb says:

        Uh.. no. Such tower are accessed from the outside.
        One of the reasons they are equipped with a rope is specifically to haul deliveries up to their position.
        As for it being contraband? While it could be, that is an assumption that shouldn’t automatically be made.
        Contrary to what the below poster states about “automation” from a personal source, some towers are still used.
        So it could be a meal delivery. It could be contractor or maintenance working inside of it for repairs and pulling up needed equipment or supplies.
        These things would be far more common than to assume than it is contraband.

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        • Ferd says:

          Give me a break! You don’t believe that. Who are you covering for? That was contraband and you know it! If it is a guard tower, where are the outside stairs?

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          • tappin52 says:

            Hubby is a retired Correction Lieutenant. He says that the tower entryway is locked and the key is in the tower with the officer. It is not at all unusual to have food delivered to the tower officer.

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      • freegz says:

        I know nothing about ropes and prison walls. But there is a 378 post on Greta’s Facebook page about the video. Apparently this is how food and possibly other deliveries are made.

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      • booger71 says:

        I am a retired Federal Correctional officer, this is not that big of a deal. The officer in the tower lowering the bag would not have done it if he/she was not expecting it, and knew it was coming before hand….probably food.

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    • You’re right. Coffee and donuts to the guards up in the tower.

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    • Guard towers were automated years ago but with the escape, there could be CO’s. however, they do not get deliveries this way. My Dad was NYS CO for 28 years including 15 years on CERT. he has been retired for 20 years but in seeing this video, he says no way this is allowed….

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      • CrankyinAZ says:

        I worked prisons too for a few years – much more modern than this, I’ll admit. But why would a dude, in civilian clothing, come from across the street, deliver anything? Uh…no. If it was someone delivering something “official” they would have 1) done it from inside the prison 2) been in uniform 3) walked around from the side – not across the street. Ummm… yeah… he was delivering, the latest news on prisoner information… and um… getting a snackie. Yeah… that’s the ticket! *rolls eyes

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  6. Stormy says:

    A Normal, Expected Delivery ?!??

    LOLhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaInfinity

    Yes, Prisoner #5551212 was expecting his normal delivery of pot, cell phones and cash… 😆 😆 😆

    It was Mr. Green, with a rope, over the wall.

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  7. MaryfromMarin says:

    Maybe the front gate was stuck shut.
    Maybe he was too tired to walk all the way there.
    Maybe the shortest distance between two points is over the wall.

    Good thing there was a rope handy.

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    • booger71 says:

      This rope and bag is primarily used to lower down they key for the door to the base of the tower, which is how your relief gets inside the tower at shift change.

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      • Ferd says:

        Primarily used to haul up unsearched items. Supposedly just used to haul down a key. Why did the civilian have the bag instead of the guard? Why didn’t he wait for the key to relieve the guy currently on shift? It is simply an unchecked route of entry for contraband.

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  8. ctdar says:

    Any surprise that murderers cut thru steel plates and escape over a week ago and still not found?

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  9. SNL couldn’t write a funnier script.. Unbelievable, and telling…

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  10. benzy says:

    All I can say is…. “Thank goodness this is a maximum security facility!! Just think what might happen if it were not.

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  11. It is becoming increasingly apparent that this prison has some major issues, for which I believe the female worker is being used to deflect attention away from the wardens lack of oversight. This escape scenario does not add up, at least the way info is being slowly released. No way these guys got out of those metal cells with hacksaws, no way. Someone did the cutting from the other side of the cells, not from within. So, whom, and, why?

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    • CrankyinAZ says:

      I dunno… first thing I was warned about was men trying to use me to get stuff (contraband – anything) when I worked for the Dept. of Corrections. The prisoners are often manipulative men who look for any one (male or especially female) they can use. Vulnerable women are the first targets, and it looks like she was one. My take – she was used and played by these two .. erm.. prisoners. But I don’t think she was their only means of escape. Especially not after seeing that video.

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      • Doramin says:

        It stands to reason that they did not consider her reliable enough to be trusted with their outside plans. Her testimony and records show she had a “panic attack” and went to the ER that night instead of picking them up. I’m betting they had made other arrangements with a network on the outside to provide them with a getaway driver, clothes and money. That picture Duane “Dog” Chapman was showing on CNN last night from a security cam somewhere on P.E. Island, Canada was supposedly of one of them. The two had to know that the silly b**ch would be found out within hours so they didn’t want her to have any idea where they were going.

        It always seemed to me down the years that for 90% of escapees this was just another form of recreational pastime. So many do not seem to have much idea what to do once they are outside and are usually rounded up within hours.

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  12. Noneatall says:

    It was probably a bag of cell phones. I used to work with several public safety disciplines in DC. I remember sitting at meetings in 2009 as the possible use of cell phone jammers was discussed to render the inmates cell phones useless (the FCC subsequently nixed the idea). All I could think to myself was, why don’t they just try to stop the cell phones from coming into the jail? It was a very lucrative business for some of the guards.
    Apparently Georgia is allowed to use the jamming device. Go to 3:15 and see video of an actual takedown of suspects attempting to toss cell phones over a prison fence to inmates.
    http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/24820495/i-team-exclusive-jamming-prision-cell-phones

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  13. Mr. Right says:

    Do max security prison really get anonymous delivery from bags via ropes ? This is weird.

    This is happening right under a guard tower, and right next to the man, at the base of the wall their is a door. (check google street)

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    • booger71 says:

      It was not anonymous delivery. I officer in the tower would have never lowered the bag if he/she was not expecting what the person at the bottom put in it.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Um, yes, of course it was expected. But, was it legal and not bypassing whatever safety rules there are?

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      • Ferd says:

        There could have been anything in that bag. Guards are searched when entering the prison, then bags containing anything are hoisted over the walls. Great security system. That could have been me with the bag, it definitely wasn’t an employee.

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  14. zephyrbreeze says:

    This is why there needs to be rigorous community oversight of the prison, someway, somehow. That kid who was stranded at Rikers for 3 years without being charged, just committed suicide. Just read about the Baltimore city jail a few months ago in the New Yorker. Run by the inmates, six pregnant guards by the inmates, many of the guards are girls from the same neighborhood as the inmates, sisters, girlfriends. Well written and mind blowing.

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    • Doramin says:

      Weird and inexcusable. I remember from the late 80’s, a 60 minutes segment about a well-known Riker’s Island Governor who made regular rounds of the jail and would speak with any prisoner who had a complaint. His first words were always: “I can get you a trial today if you want”. That segment also vividly showed the gruesome reality of how the jails had become our de facto mental institutions, with the guards having to deal with schizophrenics on a daily basis. Streets, jails, ER, streets, jails, ER, streets, jails…around and around, until they die or push someone in front of a subway. And whenever the family tries to get them committed the Homelessness/Civil Liberties/Industrial Complex sends in a lawyer to keep the nut on the streets.

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  15. And I presume the prison wants MORE MONEY to keep up their excellent safety and security processes.

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  16. NYER1234 says:

    Just need to share with you all. It isn’t sketchy. The rope came down from the guard tower. The actual cells where the prisoners live are pretty far back from the wall around the prison, which is where they are filming. There’s a guard tower at the corner of the wall there and the guy is probably from one of the restaurants across the street.

    Source: I’ve been to that location and I know the layout. Disclosure: I’m not one of the escapees
    ; )

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    • Then Dannemora has some real problems. I can tell you Downstate, Greenhaven and Fishkill do not work that way. At all.

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      • NYER1234 says:

        They obviously do have problems, look what just happened.

        As far as other NY State prisons being more on the ball, maybe you’re right that they don’t have coffee sent up on a rope to the street-facing guard towers, but they too seem to have some security issues and employee-supervision issues:

        http://m.timesunion.com/news/article/How-the-system-failed-in-escape-6325929.php

        Employees pass through a security checkpoint when they report for work at a state prison. But the employees are not required to pass through a metal detector, and any bags they carry in, including purses, are often only casually scanned for contraband.

        “This goes on all over the state,” the investigator said. “They don’t look at all in the bags. People open up their bags, and they glance at it and they don’t really search it like they’re supposed to.”

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  17. kafir says:

    Remember. just like Baltimore, the gangs run the jails and prisons, “Plata o Plomo” as the cartel thugs say,
    https://s17-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http://cdn3.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/plata-o-plomo.jpg&sp=0171c59a83edc0aed4a2c995a289cbc1
    This image is Texas btw, not Mexico

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  18. Plwiseman says:

    I worked for the Texas prison system in the transportation division for 10 years. On the corner of every prison wall is a ‘picket’ (tower with an armed officer in it) and when your transporting inmates to different prisons the officers have to stop before entering inside the prison and put their weapons in a sock that the picket boss lowers down with a rope, they pull the weapons up into the picket and hold them there as no weapons are allow inside the prison unit. That appears what is going on here.

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    • The Johnny Person says:

      I also worked for TDCJ as plwiseman says above. He is exactly right. I worked the psych ward at the Clement’s unit in Texas and we were constantly running them to the hospital due to them cutting on themselves, etc. A bag was always lowered down containing 1 revolved and 6 rounds of .357 ammunition. Whether other things are being raised/lowered in this video is another question.
      =-=-=-=-

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      • The Johnny Person says:

        errr “Revolver” is what I meant to say. The rope was the fastest and easiest way for us to haul things in and out of the guy in the outside pickets.

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  19. archer52 says:

    And for a split second we see the literal uselessness of the media.

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  20. TwoLaine says:

    There would be an easy way to check this out, however it is on lockdown. I tried rope deliveries for the password. Didn’t work. 😉

    http://www.nyscopba.org/docs-directives

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  21. Ferd says:

    It doesn’t even matter who is on the other end of the rope. This is an unsearched delivery into the prison. Did it go through a metal detector? Was it searched before being allowed in? If it was an honest guard, will all of them be honest? Will a guard with financial difficulties not allow a delivery to an inmate for some cash? Why is the guy wearing a parka in June?

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  22. For the first time, ever, I’m disappointed in many of the comments on this thread. Treepers don’t usually jump to conclusions with little information.

    The guard tower is on top of a wall, not on top of the prison. That wall surrounds the prison. Prisoners are not wandering around the inside of that wall. Once you get in through the wall you’re not in the prison. There are multiple layers of security. You have to go through a series of security check-points to get into the prison itself.

    Getting in and out of the guard towers is designed to keep those guards safe so once they’re up there and other guards are not wandering through bringing them coffee or lunch. There’s a restaurant across the street and the box probably contains food. Even if the box contains contraband the guards in the tower would have to go through many layers of security to try to take anything into the prison itself. And it’s not like they could throw contraband over into the prison. The building itself is away from the wall.

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    • Thank you. My Father was a CO for 28 years in NYS. Every post I do except his last one seems to get “lost”. This is NOT how NYS prisons do ANYTHING. Everything goes through the official channels. Everything No one ever delivers anything via rope. Ever.

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  23. As to why a guy would be wearing a parka in June – it’s COLD up there. The ice just melted off of Chazy Lake in May.

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  24. Ziiggii says:

    This has to be staged right? The person walking across the street knows there is a TV crew right there. Would be kinda hard to miss the media’s massive setup. I doubt they [delivery person] knew that the talking head was in a live shoot at that exact moment though.

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    • sean quinn says:

      This is nothing. That is a guard tower and the guard is being passed whatever he requested up the rope. It is a common thing when you are in a guard tower to have items passed up to you instead of having to walk all the way down to get it

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  25. Sandra says:

    I have some knowledge of this type of situation. It’s not unusual in Illinois for the guard towers to have a rope/bucket type delivery system to the guards up in the tower. What is unusual is that the delivery is occurring from outside of the prison. This should he done INSIDE. If this prison is allowing outside deliveries, then it’s not surprise that two inmates escaped. Security is very obviously lax there. This is a MAXIMUM security prison too, all the worse. As someone else wrote, the Warden has lost control. I would say the state’s DOC director has also lost control.

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    • Sandra says:

      I just want to add that it’s my theory that the escaped inmates never planned to meet up with the idiot prison worker. Whether or not she showed up at their pre-arranged meeting location, they would not have been there. They duped her and she knows it. What a dummy. Some women just cannot resist the appeal of the bad boy inmate. It’s a very strange phenomemon. The same is true in reverse, male workers at women’s prisons are also getting tied up emotionally. This is why I think that prisons should be completely gender segregated, workers as well as inmates, and the workers should all be hetero. That would stop a lot of these problems. Then there would just be the favors for $$$, inmates who are paying for contraband.

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  26. I suspect you are right. They were probably long gone and 200 miles away or in Canada before the arranged meeting time.

    There are two parts to an escape: the breakout and the get-away. This breakout was meticulously planned for a long time. The get-away was similarly planned. It did not rely on this woman.

    The authorities know this. They are doing the local searching for PR reasons and to keep the locals calm. They don’t want us to know what they know.

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    • Sandra says:

      I totally agree with you. Everything was meticulously planned. They needed her for the breakout but did not need her for the get-away. How dumb she must feel believing the lies, no doubt the guy told her he loved her, wanted to be with her, was going to take her with him. She probably gave them money too. I doubt she is being completely honest with the investigators. She probably ratted on them as revenge when she found out she was scammed.

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      • Doramin says:

        Yup. They had made other arrangements with other people on the outside. They would not want that silly pig to know where they were going. Easier by far to simply go several hours before the appointed time and meet their REAL getaway driver before she showed up than have to kill her and dump her body. She probably waited for a while then had her nervous breakdown and then it took her little pea brain several days before she realized she’d been had and confessed everything.

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  27. Knowyourshit before you talk says:

    Its called a tower drop.. that is how the tower guards get their lunch and pass keys to next shift personal its NOT CONTRABAND..

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    • Sandra says:

      It shouldn’t come from OUTSIDE OF THE WALL like that. Why would a guard be passing keys to/from someone outside of the wall ? There is no control there. The Warden should have stopped that long ago. No wonder two guys escaped.

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      • The Johnny Person says:

        If you think preventing this from happening is going to tighten security in any way…then you have no idea what the prisons face. Stopping this from occurring would amount to nothing. Until every prison across the United States begins searching every single guard, every single nurse…. every single warden…every single visitor, every single chaplain and I’m talking about a complete strip search down to your birthday suit then nothing will change and nothing will stop. This would have to be done for morning, noon and night shifts. Also, the state will have to pay overtime for every single minute that those guards and nurses and whoever else is on the payroll for standing in line 15-30 minutes before they are actually supposed to be there. Texas tried this, tried to force the guards to come in early so they could still make it to work on time…but be there early enough to be searched. Then refused to pay overtime!! Rightfully so, the state got sued into the grave over it. Believe me, stopping some guy in an outside picket from lowering a rope which is standard procedure at most prisons, will accomplish absolutely nothing. And take it from me, I worked at those places. Ask any guard what their biggest problem was while employed in the prison. Almost unanimously they will all tell you it was the people they worked with. Not the inmates.
        =-=-=-=-=-

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  28. BobNoxious says:

    This was a legit delivery; likely to a guard tower as has been mentioned by another commenter.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/no-this-guy-wasnt-smuggling-drugs-into-prison-during-fox-news-report/

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    • Sandra says:

      It’s not legit if it came from outside the wall. I’m not saying it was contraband, it was probably lunch. But it’s absolutely improper to have items coming in from the outside like that. There are proper routes into the prison, that’s not one of them. Security is lax there. Keep in mind that it’s a maximum security prison.

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      • Lenfb says:

        Yes it was legit. Everything comes from outside the yard/wall.
        That is also why the door is there, as everything comes from outside the yard/wall, meals, keys, etc… even the CO.
        It is proper procedure and it is done specifically this way for security reasons.

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        • People don’t seem to understand the layout of the prison or the procedures for getting into the prison. They don’t realize that there is an entrance to get into the walled area but you are not in the prison at that point. There are multiple security check points you must go through to finally get you into the prison. The guards in the tower are not in the prison building. They’re at the outside wall.

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          • auscitizenmom says:

            “People don’t seem to understand the layout of the prison or the procedures for getting into the prison.” TRUE. And, I want to keep it that way. 😯

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        • Concerned says:

          Everything comes from outside the yard/wall.

          Everything is supposed to come through the approved channels, not hoisting stuff up the wall. It’s only proper if done from the interior, not the exterior.

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          • Concerned says:

            How about this to consider? If you were the warden of this max prison, would you want your guards accepting items from outsiders by hoisting it up to the tower? I wouldn’t. I’d tell them to go through the proper channels. Everything should go through the gatehouse or sally port.

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            • Lenfb says:

              @ Concerned.
              There is nothing to consider. Your position is based on a mistaken belief.
              It is policy. It is how the Wardens have things done.

              You do not take things into the prison only to take them back out and delivered to the tower guard/CO.

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          • Lenfb says:

            You are incorrect. Everything comes [to the tower guard] from outside the yard/wall. Even the guard/CO does. It is not actually entering the inside of the prison. That is the policy and it is done for security reasons.

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  29. bob e says:

    i personally like the delivery guys uniform … is it a hoodie commercial ??

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  30. Monkeywench says:

    Having worked at an old prison, I can tell you what is being witnessed here is a delivery of some sort to a tower guard and not a contraband drop off. It is most likely his lunch.

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    • The problem here is a misconception. People think the guard is “in the prison” where the prisoners are held. The guard is not in the prison and he is not interacting with the prisoners. It’s not a security breach.

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      • Concerned says:

        It really is a security breach. The guards access the tower from the interior, not the exterior. The guard is “in the prison”. He/she interacts with prisoners by shouting commands to them or, worst case, shooting them.

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        • Lenfb says:

          You are again mistaken.
          The tower guard/CO is not in the prison, nor does he enter the tower from within the prison. Towers are accessed from out side of the prison.

          Go to Google and search “Clinton Correctional Facility”. Go to street view, or look at the 11 photographs of the Prison and you will see a door beneath each tower photograph.
          That is how they are accessed.

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        • Schmoopy says:

          The towers accessed from outside the prison, through a door on the sidewalk or parking lot depending on which tower it is. There is no way to get to or from the towers while inside the jail. They may as well be in a building across the street from the prison. Do some research before making definitive statements.

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