Bikers Rally To Waco Silently Protesting LEO Response To “Twin Peaks” Mass Roundup, Arrests, and Million Dollar Bonds…

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  1. Cool! I love it! Thanks for posting..

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  2. shirley49 says:

    Amazing. No fires, no looting and nothing destroyed. Guess this shows which side the reprobates are on.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Million Biker Poker run to the Capital.

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    • smiley says:

      I was thinking the same thing….shows the stark contrast between an actual, reality-based protest, and the recent chaos and destruction by “the angry mob” brought on by extreme radical left agitating/race baiting.
      hope all provocateurs stay out of this protest.

      ( “like” some of those Tshirts )

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    • michellc says:

      My son said the other day about the video showing all the bikers sitting around or willingly obeying the cops by taking off their shoes, belts, etc. that it’s funny to him how they’re so dangerous and if that was roughly 200 crips, bloods or MS-13 gangs who clearly outnumbered cops does anyone think they would have been acting so peaceful and taken into custody so easily?

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  3. joshua says:

    well…I guess you have to be a white biker to think that protesting en masse looking like the folks that just got killed or arrested at another bunch of white bikers rallying is a good idea. Maybe a mass protest with signs and stuff has replaced writing intelligent letters to editors and interviews on media…..so jump on a big harley and strut your beards and belly and that is supposed to influence anything POSITIVE? I was hoping that there were smarter deals than that…whatever.

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    • Seems to me they are getting pretty good coverage, plus how can you say they have not tapped out letters of intelligence? ( as you put it ) I suppose we can depend on Fox to invite them?
      They are doing exactly what needs done.. Remind me not to ever share a fox hole with you.

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    • Josh says:

      ” …letters to editors and interviews on media… ” Uhh, okay. joshua, what world are you in? Most editors don’t print letters from non-liberals and the most of the media does not air interviews from non-liberals. Take your meds, my friend.

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    • Father Thyme says:

      Agree. I also wonder why the biker community can’t seem get off its collective duff and raise the money to bail some of their innocent brethren out of jail.
      Perhaps @Josh #putthebongdown will have an intelligent answer to that question. 🙂

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      • Sharon says:

        Do you actually know exactly what is going on inside “the biker community”? Or is this one of those times where, perhaps, those who are talkin’ don’t know, and those who know ain’t talkin’.

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        • michellc says:

          They are raising money, it’s all over social media, so it’s not like Father Thyme can’t find it. It’s also not like you can raise that kind of money overnight. They’re also trying to help some of the wives and kids whose husbands and fathers are the sole breadwinners in the family.

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          • Father Thyme says:

            One of the bikers just had his bail reduced to 250K on Friday but still sits in jail because his family could only raise 10k for his bond. I believe he also a sole provider and has a special needs child. I question the commitment of any ‘community’ that can’t raise 15K to bond out one of their brothers.

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            • michellc says:

              You do realize there are more than just one who needs help?
              You can question why they can’t raise the money but you can’t question that they are trying to raise money because it’s all over social media.

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            • Jett Black says:

              Wrong question! Question the fundamental legal validity of a “community” that keeps people in jail with not a shred of evidence or probable cause and won’t even step up to the plate and hold the hearings basic Constitutional law requires to get them sorted out and reasonable bonds set. If a person can’t make $25k bond, then $25k bond probably isn’t necessary to get them to show up for a hearing in a month or so–especially if they’ve got solid connections to the area, like a job and family they’re actually taking care of, in complete contrast to the dindunuffins and illegals who just roll out with fed help. Talk about some unequal protection and disparate impact! Wake up! Ask the right questions and hold the responsible accountable.

              Face facts–if WPD had put their officers in visible locations around TP and parked that swat MRAP they were hiding in an adjacent lot right out front, there would have been no violence. Had they responded immediately, openly, and professionally to the alleged instigating parking lot altercation, rather than watching it escalate, then dramatically over-reacting, there would have been minimal, isolated violence. Now ask yourself, based on objective facts, who’s really responsible for 27 people being shot with 9 dead at noon at a suburban mall restaurant in small town, northeast Texas, USA? Who should be in jail?

              If ballistics (with solid evidence chains) prove that most of the wounds resulted from other than LEO fire, I’ll be happy to stand corrected, but based on what’s been shown so far, that doesn’t seem remotely likely.

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              • Texas Fossil says:

                “Who should be in jail?”

                Those in the background planning this BATF driven FUBAR SWAT raid. I have seen evidence of outside planning & support. This is agenda driven event, gone totally insane. I don’t know the extent of “agencies” involved, but this is a Federal sourced agenda driven crime.

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        • Father Thyme says:

          The number of bikers still sitting in jail cells speaks for itself Sharon, as does the poor turnout at the ‘all for one’ rally.

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          • Jett Black says:

            The only things your observations “speak for themselves” is the ultimate truth that the color that matters most society is green and that our society is truly becoming increasingly lawless on both sides of the “blue line.” Neither is good. None of our rights should be even slightly contingent on our financial resources.

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  4. doodahdaze says:

    Cool.

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  5. liberty2828 says:

    Love the sound of those bikes!

    The Goddess of Justice on the top of McLennan County Court House is missing her scales!
    How perfect is that?

    “Meanwhile, the Themis statute that crowns the historic courthouse in downtown Waco remains without one of her arms after a storm June 23, 2014, ripped it off.
    Winds up to 65 mph ripped off the left arm of the 6,000-pound, 18-foot-tall goddess of justice, blowing it into nearby trees. The statue also was renovated in 2011, and her century-old materials have left county officials wondering how to repair her.
    Officials have discussed whether there is a need for a new statue; the possibility of taking her down for repairs; or repairing on site. A decision has not yet been made by county officials.”

    Here is what she is supposed to look like. Justice Scales and all. Guess not in Waco.

    http://www.wacotrib.com/news/mclennan_county/rust-spots-found-on-newly-renovated-mclennan-county-courthouse-dome/article_027dab0a-c84c-5a20-994f-7fbc60478e55.html

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    • georgiafl says:

      Likewise a storm ripped the cross of the steeple of the downtown Presyterian church when they voted to ‘go gay.’

      G-D does not take heresy and apostasy and sin lightly.

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    • John Galt says:

      How appropriate.

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    • Many thoughts come to mind. Losing scales of justice – prophetic winds? Funny that the pix seem to show that while she lost her scales, SHE GOT HER SWORD BACK!! What does THAT mean?

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    • Josh says:

      “…remains without one of her arms after a storm June 23, 2014…”
      Almost an entire year has gone by and they’re still deciding what to do.
      That’s government fer ya’.

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    • EdWatts says:

      Missing the blindfold, too.

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      • art tart says:

        EdWatts ~ I was thinking the same thing. Doesn’t seem Waco DA/LE believes in the blindfold since many feel the bikers haven’t been viewed objectively as 1 % or no affilation to any biker group, but are guilty by association even if at the wrong place, at the wrong time.

        Blind Justice is the theory that law should be viewed objectively with the determination of innocence or guilt made without bias or prejudice.

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      • art tart says:

        EdWatts ~ I was thinking the same thing. Doesn’t seem Waco DA/LE believes in the blindfold since many feel the 1 % bikers haven’t been viewed objectively & those too w/no affilation to any biker group, but are guilty by association even if at the wrong place, at the wrong time.

        Blind Justice is the theory that law should be viewed objectively with the determination of innocence or guilt made without bias or prejudice.

        A. Corey/M. Mosby/DA Waco, but those that claim they want Justice, are not without bias/prejudice, we see it over/over.

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    • pspsst says:

      Oh I hope the Scales of Justice flew off and landed on Obama’s golf cart!

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    • dbl trouble says:

      Rumor has it that the Mclennan county courthouse is having a new statue made to replace the goddess of justice

      The three wise monkeys

      Hear no evil, speak no evil ,see no evil!

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  6. Dixie says:

    Silence is golden…..is it not? The impact and contrast is significant.

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  7. doodahdaze says:

    Looks to me like a few major players were to the death, and the rest are innocent bystanders.

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  8. doodahdaze says:

    I must have missed the riots, looting, burning and mayhem.

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  9. TexasRanger says:

    Twin Peaks Waco- What the Video Will Show (as soon as it is released)- Biker Witnesses’ Perspective…

    Video

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  10. One of the news videos had a biker noting that it is a close-knit community and they take care of each other. So true. A neighbor of mine is a retired Marine, retired Steelworker and long-time biker. One day he had to lay down his bike and lost his leg from the knee down. His buddies took his bike away (a Hog, of course) and by the time he got out of hospital and rehab, they had modified it into a cool-looking tri-wheel. Yippee! He and his wife could, and did, ride again.
    He and his wife also hosted a funeral reception for a friend or relative, I’m not sure which. She was a casualty of the recent Iraq War. The whole neighborhood was jammed with military, friends, relatives and bikers.
    BTW – wonder why no one has linked yesterday’s Iowa Roast and Ride in conjunction with this? If I were any of the Iowa event riders, I would have spoken to the media about the Waco event today. I’ll post a link in the comment box below.

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  11. Aslan's Girl says:

    Good! Thank you for the post and getting this some attention! Keep the sunlight shining, SD!

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  12. Josh says:

    Mr. Santilli is odd. I can’t watch him.
    He interviews Stephen Stubbs [2015-June-03]. Interview begins at 2:05:00.
    I can’t watch/listen to the entire thing due to the constraints of time.

    Pete Santilli Show #988 – Stephen Stubbs Biker Attorney – Waco Police Involvement In Shoot-Out

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  13. kinthenorthwest says:

    OK were is the looting & rioting

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  14. Alfred E. Neuman says:

    Reblogged this on The Lynler Report.

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  15. coeurdaleneman says:

    I’m still waiting for more facts in order to judge the reaction of the cops to a dangerous scene.

    That being said, the aftermath has been a trainwreck for their leaders’ credibility. I’m lending a ton of slack for the complexity of investigating this mess, and fully understand the delays of CSI. But cmon, even Mike Nifong didn’t jail all 40-something lacrosse players in order to sort out the purported criminal from the innocent.

    This is bonehead stupid and completely indefensible. Criminal, at this point in time.

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  16. Les says:

    I saw a bunch of lone bikers on the roads yesterday, all headed in the direction of Waco. None were 1%ers. That is a huge distinction. The tides are turning on this because the non-violent, non-drug dealing bikers are starting to see the sense in not grouping themselves in with the criminal gang clubs. Most gave me a nod because of the pass I have stuck to the windshield. We are part of the same club, a club of Americans who love freedom.

    Sometimes you have to let go of your image and ego to be heard. This is about the bikes and the freedom to grow your beard and your belly. I’m okay with that. As long as it isn’t one of those hipster beards.

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    • joshua says:

      Most all of my high school classmates that wanted bikes as kids, and are now retired, those left in rural East Texas, grew beards, sold cars and bought harleys and they and their wifes ride and travel…they wear doo rags over their ponytail haircuts, and leather stuff like they wanted as kids. with aviator sun shades…..and now are reliving their missed youth…it is OK…spending a career as an accountant or auditor would make me want to ride with the wind….I just happen to be a drop top car fan so when it rains I can put up the top, and turn on the AC in the summer and sit NEXT TO my sweet wife….

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      • Les says:

        Daw…

        Yeah, that’s the impression I get from 99% of these folks.

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      • pspsst says:

        Good Grief, already. This isn’t about you and your high faluting personal preferences as near retirement or pass the career hill. Cropping your hair close to the head or putting gel on top so it doesn’t get wind swept in a top down has nothing to do with anyone but your own choice in life. My father is an engineer and he rode a bike when young. He used to let me go with him on Main Streets at a fair and not highways, and it was way more fun than a “silly” convertible. He owned a family car too, for times when it rained.

        This is about the U.S. Constitution and rights of freedom-loving, law-abiding, hard working Americans — who come in all sizes and shapes and manner of travel/vehicle. The biker ride does not just represent MCs and bikers. They are against shooting haphazard into a Sunday crowd getting ready to hear about rules of safety for motorists and bikers and wrongful arrest of innocents at authoritative whim without proper reason and representation. It’s push back by Americans against a lawless leader who across the entire nation is pitting police against Americans, and vice versa, in any manner he can.

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        • Nicely stated…I also agree with your sentiment.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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        • michellc says:

          Exactly, I don’t why this is so hard for some to understand. I personally don’t get the tattoos, long hair, leather vests, patches and colors. A lot of people though don’t get me and my lifestyle out sometimes in the middle of the night getting covered in poop, blood, and mud. They don’t get why I want to live in the middle of nowhere and have the privacy to walk outside naked if I want.(Not that I want to do that nor do I do that…lol) I don’t want those people telling me I can’t live my life the way I want to live it and I certainly don’t think the government or LE should have the right to label me a criminal.
          So I certainly won’t tell them people they can’t do something just because I don’t get it.

          To me it wouldn’t have mattered if they had been preachers in suits or black men in saggin’ britches(yeah, I know then everyone would care), wrong is wrong. Regardless of what happened at the crime scene, what has happened since is wrong and it’s not how our system is supposed to work.

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          • pspsst says:

            Sounds like freedom! I myself love the smell of hay. Could never get the country boy out of my father but my mother is city all the way. I’m half of each :). I didn’t see too many pony tails on men in the bike ride so that might be another misconception put on by the media. Grrr

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            • michellc says:

              I’m country through and through, it came from several generations.

              It’s also in my blood that you mind your own business and you don’t want anyone minding yours.

              Some people today seem to think that you have something to hide if you don’t air your dirty laundry. When it’s really just you want privacy.

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          • Josh says:

            michellc, I appreciate, and agree with, your sentiments. I’ve enjoyed owning a motorcycle. I don’t understand much of the motorcycle “look”. I’m not necessarily a fan of “gangs”. I’m not into judging others (mostly because I do not wish to be judged). What someone is/does is ultimately between them and their G-d.

            “Regardless of what happened at the crime scene …” I don’t agree with the word “regardless” and I’m sure you’re not meaning it as might be taken. What happened at the crime scene MAY be quite a problem. What happened LEADING UP TO the crime scene may REALLY be a problem. This was an orchestrated event by different factions. I believe the club was meeting as they often did. I’d like to know why the police were there. I’ve heard the talking points. I want to know the real reason.

            “…what has happened since is wrong and it’s not how our system is supposed to work.” Spot on, my friend. Spot on.

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            • michellc says:

              When I say regardless I’m only saying that because we don’t know for a fact what happened, a fight between the clubs or no fight between the clubs, if there was a fight, was it just a fist fight or a gun fight. Did the cops start the fight if there was one with an UC? Did the cops shoot everyone? I want to know the answers to those questions and I want to know if the feds pulled the strings on the why the Waco cops were there.
              What we do know as fact is what the cops and DA did after men were dead and injured. Our system is not supposed to be one where we charge people with a crime without probable cause while we sort out the details.

              If we support LE and prosecutors being above the law then we’re supporting a police state.

              I’m sorry but I can’t support what has happened in Waco or support throwing flash grenades into a house with an infant or blow up an innocent man’s house because a criminal ran into it uninvited. If that gets me labeled as anti-police, so be it.

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        • smiley says:

          like what you say, pspsst…imo, this is also about the freedom of dissent…the wearing of emblems, patches that some don’t like or might find “offensive” or “threatening”…and being thrown in jail for it.
          its the precedent that’s being set.
          the bigger picture.

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    • michellc says:

      We saw a bunch yesterday on the highway from Missouri to Texas across Oklahoma. I wondered if they were headed to Texas. We were headed in the opposite direction driving 65mph so I have no idea if they were 1% or not, I’m assuming some weren’t in any club as some were just wearing t-shirts.

      I’ve been noticing more bikers all week, I don’t know if it’s just because I’m paying more attention or if more bikers are traveling through.

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      • Les says:

        There are more on the roads. The patch is very visible (nobody goes 65 in Texas) because of the diamond shape and usual placement over the heart.

        I also saw a few “For Sale” signs in bikes in yards. Some wives FINALLY won that argument, I suspect.

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        • michellc says:

          We do go 65 in Oklahoma on this particular stretch of highway unless you want a ticket.lol

          I really wasn’t looking at the patches, I did look for vests and that’s why I know some had on t-shirts.

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        • pspsst says:

          The organizer of TOCI was a woman, and she called for safety on the roads for motorcyclists. It was a long haul to get the legislation approved and more recognition. Every wife would want this for their biker husband so they could ride on the road more safely, not give it up completely. This win cannot happen because Stompy Feet thinks all Americans should be driving puny Priuses and unarmed.

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      • I think the increase in bikes on the road is weather and season. here in my peaceful little corner of Oregon, dozens of bikes were coming and going – about two bikes per “group.” Some with WAGs and some alone.

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  17. maggiemoowho says:

    This infuriates me. The MSM will spend days and nights talking about the ridiculous Black Lives Matter BS, but won’t give 10 minutes to report about innocent Americans, stripped of their Constitutional Rights and imprisoned because some idiot officals are prejudice against bikers. Waco should forever be known as Little North Korea, North Korea does the same damn thing to it’s citizens. Don’t ever stop and eat in Waco/little North Korea, a burger and beer might end up costing you your freedom and everything you own.

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  18. myopiafree says:

    My impression is that this was a “police riot”, by 4 cops armed with rifles, who opened fire on this largely un-armed group of bikers. Only some research, and finding out where all the shell fell – will tell the truth of the slaughter.

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    • michellc says:

      My opinion is still much the same as it was in the beginning, a twitchy finger was the cause of the slaughter. Everything else has been trying to figure out how to cover it up.

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    • manickernel says:

      The bikers fired first, everyone, including the bikers there, agree with that. Over 100 handguns were recovered, so they were hardly “unarmed.” Did the police overreact and shoot indiscriminately thus increasing the death toll and injured? No way to know until video and ballistics are released.

      Has the blanket incarceration and overall handling of the incident since Twin Peaks by Waco authorities been a disaster? YES!

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      • kinthenorthwest says:

        You have some facts wrong ….you need to go do some more research..

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        • manickernel says:

          Well since 118 handguns were recovered can you please direct me to where the “fact” that police opened fire first may be found?

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          • Josh says:

            First of all, your question does not make sense. Until the facts are released we won’t know what the facts are. That handguns and other “weapons” were recovered means nothing. To own a handgun, or most any other weapon, is a Constitutional right. Were any of those weapons used in the commission of a crime? That is a question that only the facts will answer. Release the facts!

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          • oldiadguy says:

            Another point about the 118 handguns that were recovered. Exactly where were they recovered. How many of the handguns were recovered from vehicles. The Waco Authorities seem to be silent on that point and many others.

            Lets see, 50 to 80 Cossacks and Scimitars were in one group and up to 20 Bandidos in the other. According to my old school math, that adds to 70 to 100 possible combatants. Yet, WA has arrested over 170 people. It would appear that the WA have arrested anywhere from 70 to 100 people that were not involved in the incident, but simply because there were at a MC event.

            The longer the WA embargos the facts of what happened that day, the more it looks like the mass arrests were punitive rather than investigative. SMH

            Take Care

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      • Josh says:

        “The bikers fired first …” I’m not saying they did and I’m not saying they didn’t. Until I see and hear some truth I don’t know what to believe.

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        • kinthenorthwest says:

          Josh I am with you on that one..
          Also the picture of the weapons that police picked up show like 50 or so total weapons.
          No where near the 1000s of weapons they claimed…Bet they considering the kitchen silverware weapons.
          Yet it seems that trolls will carry on with untruths they pick up from media sites.

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          • Josh says:

            It’s been stated that the chains they wear to hold their vest closed has been considered weapons.

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            • kinthenorthwest says:

              I keep looking up the weapon count and it seems that the count depends on whose blog you read.
              No one seems to be able to present an accurate verified count.
              One blogger even cites a FB site’s posting which has since been erased.

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  19. lilbirdee'12 says:

    This pic was posted on the All for 1 Rally fb page. Officers showing support…nice !

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    • Ziiggii says:

      weird that it got set to private! I was going to ask who if the uniformed officers were WPD or county Sheriffs?

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  20. kinthenorthwest says:

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  21. Josh says:

    One of the many things that bother me about this event was how many people where killed by head shots.

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    • Josh says:

      From what I’ve read at least 4 of the 9 were shot in the head. Overkill, IMO. Just does not make sense.

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      • Clearly shots with intent to kill. Some would argue that any gunfire is to be considered “intent to kill” rather than a intent to stop. It is a fine point though & has been argued on both sides & won on both sides.. ( depends on the evidence of each case ) and a few other pertinent factors. ( prosecuting attorneys, ideology, etc..

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      Really accurate shooting for a melee..
      What made me rethink the whole mess is the changing stories by the police. At first I was like “Good some renegade bikers got their just rewards” !!! Then I keep hearing the police changing their story about just basic facts–Not what was happening during the shoot out.. Goes to show why “No Comment at this time” should be used more often, along with telling the truth when you do speak.

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    • myopiafree says:

      It takes a rifle to reliably kill with a head shot. Those were the police doing the shooting.

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      • Ziiggii says:

        It takes a rifle to reliably kill with a head shot.

        Check yourself…. if one had a handgun at point blank range I think they could kill with a head shot whether with or without having any training. I want to see the DC video to see how many were actually right in the middle of the mess.

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        • wrongonred says:

          Gotta disagree somewhat there. You could perhaps get off the first shot or two, but once that occurs and the SHTF, folks are likely not going to stand still. Heck, most defensive handgun uses are within 5yds or so, and under stress, the hit ratio is still not terribly high, and those that do are not going to likely be headshots. You are lucky if you can get them n the golden triangle at all. As they say, “I carry a handgun so I can survive long enough to get to my long gun.”

          I think when the ballistics come out, assuming they ever do, the rounds will be 5.56 and 5.7 (I recently saw some pics on the AgingRebel that lead me to believe some individuals were carrying FN P90s, which were silenced and are full auto) If true, I have never heard of a local PD using them, or at least around my parts. They are expensive, and the ammo is very expensive as well, which I find very odd, and if accurate, makes me more suspicious.

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          • Ziiggii says:

            You and I are thinking the same thing. My point was to say that it is not accurate to state that all those shot in the head were from rifle head shots. There is probably a few that were shot in the head from handguns if the reports are true that at least a couple of the bikers pulled and shot first. Once the SHTF started…. not so reliable.

            As far as the P90, I noticed that a few days back but forgot to post and ask how common it was for a Sheriff to be carrying around a sub-machine gun. Here’s one of the photos there is actually 2 that I have seen. I think they were taken by the Waco-Trib photojournalist that Liberty was emailing about the Cossack group standing beside the tree at DC.

            via Wiki:
            it can also be considered a submachine gun or compact assault rifle. The standard selective fire P90 is restricted to military and law enforcement customers, but since 2005, a semi-automatic version has been offered to civilian shooters as the PS90.

            For those that do not know, semi-automatic means every time your finger pulls the trigger a bullet is fired. Selective fire means it has a “switch” which allows you to choose how the weapon fires an example of this is the M-16 which can select between single shot, “three round burst” (3 bullets for every time the trigger is pulled).

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            • geoffb5 says:

              About the headshots.

              Where the shooting took place with bikes and car-trucks around what you would see to aim at would be above the waist at least and if people were crouching down behind things then heads/necks would be the parts most seen. Add in the uncertainty if anyone was wearing body armor and head shots are called for at least with handguns. The 5.56 and 5.7 will go through the usual level II vests with the ammo generally used by LE. One type for the 5.7 is said to penetrate 13″ in flesh or 9″ after passing through a level II vest but break up if it hits something like drywall It’s only sold to LE and military.

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  22. joshua says:

    The momentous decade of rock and roll that was the Sixties concluded with one of its most infamous incidents. Northern California’s Altamont Free Concert of December 6, 1969 was intended to be a “Woodstock West,” with over 300,000 attendees and top bands like The Rolling Stones, Jefferson Airplane and the Grateful Dead (who later refused to play because of the escalating violence). However, the organizers made two serious mistakes: hiring Hell’s Angels bikers as security and, rumor has it, paying them with $500 worth of beer.

    Unsurprisingly, entrusting the safety of the public to the notoriously rough outlaw motorcycle club turned out to be a terrible idea. Fueled by drugs and the rocking ‘60s music, members of the crowd began to attack each other and the stage.

    Numerous small scuffles broke out throughout the day. The lead singer of Jefferson Airplane, Marty Balin, was punched in the face by a Hell’s Angel and had to be airlifted to hospital. And, as the crowd grew more and more restless, the bikers armed themselves with chains and pool cues.

    The crowning horror occurred during the Rolling Stones’ set. An audience member named Meredith Hunter, who had been punched in the face, came back and drew a gun. He was tackled and stabbed repeatedly by Hell’s Angel Alan Passaro, then kicked while on the ground. In total, there were as many as 850 injuries and four deaths at the concert.

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    • Rojas says:

      For most Americans, nothing significant happened on May 15, 1916 — or so they thought.

      Imagine a crowd of 15,000 Waco citizens with lightly colored boater hats fighting off the summer heat. These citizens include men, women and children in their Sunday best attire. They are the witnesses of what was deemed to be known as Waco’s first horror.

      In the center of the crowd was a tree. The tree was nothing spectacular, just a medium-size, leafless tree. A chain hanging from a limb wrapped around the neck of Jesse Washington. His bruised and battered body rested upon a pile of wood. Moments later he was lit on fire. After his body was burned beyond recognition, flashes from cameras went off, capturing the disturbing image.

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      • pspsst says:

        There was an ungodly massacre in India too in 1919. It’s a long time back to 1916 so I would hesitate to characterize Waco LEs as corrupt back 100 years, but crikeys – two wrongs don’t make it right in the Jesse Washington case. The name stands out to me, that his name was Jesse.

        What is very singular and disturbing is that the slain at TP received head and neck shots which signals “assassination”. I’ve always thought Jesse/Jesus Rodriguez was the target and he was stalked and killed as soon as he got out of his vehicle. Whoever planned the assassinations didn’t expect him to not ride his motorbike and get out in the rear at Don Carlos. A Cossack guarding the body is suspicious.

        A nefarious story was planted in the minds of LEs and I wouldn’t doubt that an assassination attempt was planned involving Cossacks to kill JR, and then those involved had to be killed off too. Those who know too much like Navy Seals end up dead, in some configuration and participants are none the wiser because they are the useful idiots.

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        • Rojas says:

          Well that wasn’t Waco’s last BBQ.

          My post was an excerpt from
          http://baylorlariat.com/2012/02/02/documentary-sheds-light-on-waco-lynching/

          I find this illustrative.
          “What’s more fascinating and interesting to me are the people in the background of the photographs,” Eison said. “The people who crane their necks to be portrayed in the event.”

          Not much different than those who go on message boards and gloat about the gross abuse of civil rights of those deemed unworthy of their humanity.

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          • pspsst says:

            Re, last sentence, as I said, two wrongs, one in 1916 and one in 2015 (Obam can’t wait one more year to make it equal), do not make it right. As for gloating (?), I hope you don’t mean me or the CTH. And yes, Waco has a problem still. It hasn’t dispersed its demons in 100 years because it fell prey to a higher demon in D.C. twice in recent history.

            Also, in context, your post on the lynching, followed a rehash of Rolling Stones and Hell’s Angels. The linkages are breaking down. Rolling Stones concert were massive numbers of druggies and the MC’s were there as “doormen” because police were not desired, and Hell’s A were not present at TP. It was later discovered as typical that the HA was defending himself from a crazed drug addict.

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            • Yes, the member ( hells angel ) was cleared of wrongdoing by the jury, it was a clear case of self defense (as ruled ) The 18 yo clearly had a gun, some even say it was fired once.. At any rate, both individuals are deceased. This story is available online for those who may be interested..

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      • pspsst says:

        My reply got lost in spam

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        • Josh says:

          Ooh, can’t wait til it’s fished out. I like your comments 🙂

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          • pspsst says:

            I read all yours too, lol, because your comments add elements I haven’t considered — which makes for an interesting read! 😀 I’m not sure if I can duplicate my paragraphs again should spam have spun it into shreds. Keywords, the head and neck assassination of Jesse/Jesus Rodriguez way off base from the TP crisis center on the patio, just as he exits his car, and then body oddly guarded by a Cossack, is retribution for Jesse Washington. Then the participating Cossacks who set up the boondoggle had to, of course, die, Navy Seal 17 style, all 6-7 at once. All it takes is an issue from an official that Jesse and these Cossacks is a danger replete Top Secret filings. I pray whatever happened sees the light of day.

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    • Josh says:

      I like pie.

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    • oldiadguy says:

      “The event is best known for considerable violence, including the death of Meredith Hunter and three accidental deaths: two caused by a hit-and-run car accident and one by drowning in an irrigation canal.”

      “Following his initial scuffle with the Angels as he tried to climb onstage,[citation needed] Hunter (as seen in concert footage wearing a bright lime-green suit) returned to the front of the crowd and drew a long-barreled .22 caliber revolver from inside his jacket. Hells Angel Alan Passaro, seeing Hunter drawing the revolver, drew a knife from his belt and charged Hunter from the side, parrying Hunter’s pistol with his left hand and stabbing him twice with his right hand, killing him.”

      “Rock Scully, who could see the audience clearly from the top of a truck by the stage, said of Hunter, “I saw what he was looking at, that he was crazy, he was on drugs, and that he had murderous intent. There was no doubt in my mind that he intended to do terrible harm to Mick or somebody in the Rolling Stones, or somebody on that stage.”[11]”

      “Passaro was arrested and tried for murder in the summer of 1971, but was acquitted after a jury viewed concert footage[22] showing Hunter brandishing the revolver and concluded that Passaro had acted in self-defense.”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamont_Free_Concert

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      • pspsst says:

        Sanity check, Iadguy, gracias!

        Add the attendees at the Rock Concert with Mick Jagger (druggie) were Woodstock hippies (druggies) and bikers were asked to provide protection.

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    • pspsst says:

      The year is 2015 not 1960s.

      You’re stuck in the era of Barack Obama’s obsession too.

      The holocaust was over 65 years ago too. Are we jailing and accusing today’s Germans because they congregate at Munich Square for some bratwurst and beer at noon?

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  23. Josh says:

    One of the commenters mentions this site but their comment is just stupid and wrong.

    Hundreds of bikers protest at McLennan County courthouse
    http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks-biker-shooting/updated-hundreds-of-bikers-protest-at-courthouse/article_8863a871-d6af-58bf-831e-ff336d87d281.html?mode=image

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  24. Ziiggii says:

    “When the Cossacks got there, her [Sandra “Drama” Lynch] heart just sunk,” said her attorney, Gary Smart of Arlington. “She just knew there was going to be trouble. (Cossacks) had been causing trouble around Waco for a while.”

    At 11:33 a.m., she texted a friend from the biker confederation that a Cossack had just run into her in the parking lot. At that point, about 50 Cossacks had arrived, according to Lynch’s text.

    “They were making derogatory comments and saying, ‘Get out of our way, we’re Cossacks,’ ” Smart said.

    Police have said the altercation started when someone’s foot was run over, but Smart said Lynch had nothing to do with the fight, which started an hour after she was allegedly hit.

    http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks-biker-shooting/released-bikers-give-clashing-accounts-of-twin-peaks-shootout/article_104678d4-f974-5643-9cf1-810ef1d16987.html

    I can not tell by this poorly written article, but I think the author is saying that the WPD story of how the entire thing started is not accurate and that the “someone’s foot was run over” event that triggered the shooting had happened an hour earlier with Lynch being involved.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      Mike and Sandra are Los Pirados MC and also wear the “Fat Mexican” patch

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      • Ziiggii says:

        from same article in reference to the “Fat Mexican” patch:
        However, her attorney said that type of patch, in the shape of a Harley-Davidson logo, is a fan patch, not a sign of actual affiliation. He said the Lynches’ nine-member club, Los Pirados, is not a support club for any other group.

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    • Josh says:

      I was going to comment on an article that I posted above but because it was also a poorly written article I was not sure how to interpret it.

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  25. Ziiggii says:

    this is taken from the Waco Trib site, but is an AP story. I think someone read Psst comment about the nonchalant nature of the officers during processing.
    http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks-biker-shooting/blurry-lines-between-bikers-police-clubs-draw-concern/article_37525188-0d9e-11e5-bd0d-c7bdd2ffc3b2.html

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  26. Ziiggii says:

    SD said several posts back, “Find the voice behind that transmission and they might just find the source of the overreaction that led to all the LEO killing.”This is the first place that I have seen where “that voice” may have been identified.

    “According to some records released to the AP following a public information request for 911 calls, Officer Brandon Blasingame reported “shots fired,” to a dispatcher at 12:26 p.m.

    “Two shot behind Twin Peaks,” Blasingame reported two minutes later.

    “They have an AR-15,” he said in the next dispatch. It was unclear who he meant had the rifle, and if it was something he saw or was told.”

    http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks-biker-shooting/witnesses-semi-automatic-gunfire-dominated-biker-shootout/article_96945e1a-0cf5-11e5-b35b-cb09d84c4b7c.html

    Is this the same person we all were wondering about from the radio chatter audio?

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  27. Ziiggii says:

    I can not remember if some one was looking for this picture of the blue Dodge truck with what looks like it’s windows broken out, but here it is

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  28. Josh says:

    Not a bad article [2015-June-07]
    Bill Mahon, guest columnist: Cossacks, Bandidos, law enforcement and district attorney all to blame for Twin Peaks gunfire, lockups
    http://www.wacotrib.com/opinion/columns/guest_columns/bill-mahon-guest-columnist-cossacks-bandidos-law-enforcement-and-district/article_c028094c-106d-596c-8610-c3759f426205.html

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  29. Ziiggii says:

    someone stated that Waco was Cossacks turf, but this makes it seem the opposite.

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  30. Ziiggii says:

    Here’s the running list of MC’s present at the TP the day of the event (currently 25):
    Bandidos, Black Widows, Desagret Gracios, Boozefighters, Valerosos, Vaqueros, Blackett Arms, Los Pirados, Gypsy, Honor Bound, Renatus, Escondidos, Leathernecks, Vietnam Vets/Legacy Vets, In Country, Tornado, Grim Guardians, Guardians of the Children, Queens of Sheeba, Vise Grip, Distorted, Sons of the South, American Legion Riders, Cossacks and Scimitars.

    So far over a third of those are out right SYLB groups or “Fat Mexican” patch wearing “fans” of the Bandidos. It’s not looking to good for the Cossacks as they only have the Scimitars as a support group / fan club and yet were reported to have had the highest number of members present at the TP that morning (scene photos support this).

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  31. geoffb5 says:

    There is a new piece up at “Aging Rebel” with a picture I’d not seen before. This is the full version via CNN. Nice shiny toy there.

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  32. michellc says:

    http://onabike.com/motorcycle-news/press-release-ncom-affiliates-hire-ex-texas-ranger-investigate-urges-confederation-clubs-continue-meet/

    PRESS RELEASE: NCOM Affiliates to Hire Ex-Texas Ranger to investigate; Urges Confederation of Clubs to Continue to Meet

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  33. LadyRavenSDC says:
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  35. Rojas says:

    I expect a lot of us saw this coming…
    Waco doubles down on stupid and expects someone else to pick up the tab.

    “On June 23, commissioners plan to discuss the county’s general fund, which is where funding related to the shootout will start affecting departments’ budgets.

    Felton said it is possible the county could receive assistance from the state and federal level in handling expenses. He said he has spoken with Gov. Greg Abbott’s office, U.S. Rep. Bill Flores, R-Bryan, and local representatives about the matter.”

    And of course the answer to the problem is staring them straight in the eyes as they tacitly admit.
    “As these trials are going on, because of the type of people these are, as far as when you get into the really bad guys, security is going to have to step up quite a bit more,” Felton said.

    I guess it hasn’t occurred to them that perhaps they should only be charging “the really bad guys” in the first place. Unethical morons, the wrong people are in jail.

    http://www.wacotrib.com/news/mclennan_county/county-starts-budget-talks-prepares-for-impact-of-biker-arrests/article_b678fba1-66ce-51a0-aa40-719f89c53925.html

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  36. Josh says:

    While most eyes are diverted elsewhere I’ll post this (possibly) too long post. This is an older article but some of it is new to me. I had a hard time picking and choosing:

    “The son who witnessed his father’s execution-style death is under police protection because of the threat to his life”

    “A biker [Boyett] was shot dead at point blank range with two bullets to the head in front of his son during the Waco gang bloodbath.”

    “Daniel Boyett, 44, was murdered after he fell to the ground during the height of the gun battle as his fellow biker son looked on unable to help him.” AFTER he fell to the ground?!

    “Seven of the dead had head wounds, suggesting that almost all the murders were execution-style”
    “Official records shown to Daily Mail Online contained images of the corpses of several of the dead and many were revealed to have died from a single bullet to the head.”

    “One man, who wore a red bandana with the word ‘Grunt’, had a tiny bullet hole to his temple.”

    “Two more men lay face-up and side by side with single bullet wounds to the head, blood oozing from them.”

    “Fourteen Waco officers and four Texas Department of Public Safety officers ringed the restaurant and responded less than a minute after violence erupted. Heavily armed back up were on the scene within minutes.”

    “Punches were exchanged and knives drawn before the shooting began. All of the dead were shot. Police responded with deadly force once the mobsters drew their weapons and began firing.”

    “One biker was found more than 100 feet away from the melee in a pool of blood behind the Don Carlos Mexican restaurant having stumbled away from Twin Peaks after being wounded. A trail of blood followed his last steps.”

    “A blue saloon in the Mexican restaurant’s parking lot was riddled with bullets and a Subaru had its windows blown out.“

    “Among the dead was Boyatt, 44. His killer shot him at point blank range as the victim’s son watched.” “… as the victim’s son watched.”

    “The son is under police protection as his evidence maybe used to identify his father’s killer. Daily Mail Online has agreed not to name him because of the threat to him.”

    “Waco Police Department were unable to answer the question of how many of the dead or 18 injured were shot by rivals or by SWAT officers – 18 from Waco PD, four from Texas Public Safety Department – called to the scene on an outdoor shopping mall.”

    “One source said: ‘It was a difficult one for the police. There was a heavy armed response as soon as the trouble started and the marksmen and SWAT teams would have been perfectly able to ‘drop’ people with guns from a distance.”

    “‘You have to remember anybody waving a gun around in a public area has to be considered a danger not only to the police, but to innocent bystanders and swift action to bring those guys would have been the first priority.’”

    “ … the management told police to go and take a hike.”

    “’Trouble almost erupted almost ten weeks ago at Twin Peaks. There was tension and when the bikers saw the police arrive they left. That was late at night.”

    “’But the crazy part about this is that happened on a beautiful, sunny Sunday afternoon just as many people were coming from church.” So … they left when they saw police late at night but not when they saw police in broad day light – on a Sunday?!

    ”My brother who is an investigator for the District Attorney came around and said he had parked around the back and there was a dead guy on the sidewalk.”

    “He said the bike gangs financed their activities by dealing in drugs and prostitution.” Not okay for bikers but okay for Tatyana Rhodes, and her mother LaShana Burks.

    “’Among the items taken by police from those arrested were Bandido key chains, Cossack jewelry, knife sheaths, and stickers containing crude messages and images.” Stickers?!?!!

    “Sgt Patrick Swanton said the theory of one biker riding over another’s foot was partly behind the outbreak of violence, but police had their work cut out to definitively establish what happened.” The “theory” was “partly” … Walk it back, Swanton. Walk. It. Back.

    Executed with point blank shots to the head, and one killed in front of his son
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3093225/Executed-point-blank-shots-head-one-killed-son-eight-Cossacks-died-Waco-breastaurant-bloodbath-months-bitter-gang-rivalry.html

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  37. Josh says:

    I’m guessing this will be modified in time:
    Four Of Nine Bikers In Waco Brawl Were Taken Out By Police…
    http://www.weaselzippers.us/224014-four-of-nine-bikers-in-waco-brawl-were-taken-out-by-police/

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  38. wrongonred says:

    http://www.kltv.com/story/29255654/correction-waco-shooting-story Interesting correction almost a week later:

    Correction: WACO, Texas (AP) – In a story June 6 about a shootout involving bikers in Waco, The Associated Press reported erroneously that witnesses said the sound of semi-automatic gunfire dominated the shootout. They said the shootout was dominated by what sounded like short bursts of automatic gunfire. The AP also erroneously reported that a semi-automatic weapon can shoot more bullets in less time than a small-caliber weapon. The story should have said that an automatic weapon can fire multiple rounds more quickly than a semi-automatic weapon.

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