News Sources Claim Mysterious Questions Around Wal Mart Unexpectedly Closing 5 Locations – We Share Most Likely Cause….

Seeing this story repeated in numerous outlets, and with a growing mystery beginning to take hold, allow us to share some insight to help identify the most likely reason.

First the article: 

Wal mart 2(Business Insider) Wal-Mart suddenly closed five stores in four states on Monday for alleged plumbing problems.

The closures could last up to six months and affect roughly 2,200 workers in Texas, California, Oklahoma, and Florida, CNN Money reports.

Wal-Mart employees say they were completely blindsided by the news, having been notified only a couple hours before the stores closed at 7 p.m. Monday.

“Everybody just panicked and started crying,” Venanzi Luna, a manager at a store in Pico Rivera, California, told CNN Money. 

All workers will receive paid leave for two months. After that, full-time workers could become eligible for severance, according to CNN Money. But part-time workers will be on their own. 

Local officials and employees have questioned Wal-Mart’s reasoning for the closures.

According to ABC News, “no plumbing permits have been pulled in any of the five cities where the stores were suddenly closed for at least six months.” The cities where locations were closed include: Brandon, Florida; Pico Rivera, California; Livingston, Texas; Midland, Texas; and Tulsa, Oklahoma.

A city official in Pico Rivera confirmed to CBS Los Angeles that the city has not received any permit requests for building repairs.

In Midland, Texas, where another store was closed, a city official told ABC News that his plumbing inspector was turned away when he visited the store and offered to help secure construction permits.

Wal-Mart plumbing technician Codi Bauer, who worked at the now shuttered store in Brandon, Florida, questioned the company’s time frame for the repairs.

“Even if they had to replace the whole sewer line, it wouldn’t take six months to replace a whole sewer line in that store,” he told WFLA

We reached out to Wal-Mart for comment and will update when we hear back. 

A Wal-Mart spokesman told Consumerist that the company had not secured permits “because we have yet to know the full extent of the work that needs to be done. We may also have to do additional upgrades that may require additional permits.”  (read more)

wal martWal Mart’s limited information has stated “Plumbing Problems”.  As with all statements there’s informational (factual) elements within the claim and it’s the missing part that people call a mystery.

The most likely cause of the closing(s) is a positive, usually self-administered, test for Listeria bacteria.

Listeria monocytogenes – Listeriosis, a serious infection usually caused by eating food contaminated with the bacterium Listeria monocytogenes, is an important public health problem in the United States. The disease primarily affects older adults, pregnant women, newborns, and adults with weakened immune systems. However, rarely, persons without these risk factors can also be affected. The risk may be reduced by recommendations for safe food preparation, consumption, and storage. (link)

For yet unknown reasons Listeria bacterium has a tendency to take hold, then spread, in food processing areas through drains, pipes and plumbing systems.  The use of “purified water”, customary in food handling facilities such as supermarkets, spreads the bacterium to surfaces and equipment.

Once identified it’s a real problem to remove.  Essentially a business would need to tear the place apart, including the equipment torn down to bolts and sheet metal, trying to sanitize and remove the bacterium from the facility.  At each step a re-test conducted, identified and readdressed until numerous tests come up negative.  A painstaking process.

Best practices are to close for business while this process of decontamination is being done.  Obviously any business wouldn’t want the publicity about their doing it.

Local health departments and USDA audits do not check for Listeria unless someone gets sick or an outbreak is identified and they are tracing the origin of the illness.  Almost all Listeria identifications come as a result of following up with investigations of human illness.  As noted in recent media:

Tainted Blue Bell ice cream products are linked to eight listeria illnesses in Kansas and Texas; three of those who contracted the illness have died. Blue Bell has temporarily closed its facility in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, and shut down a production line at its facility in Brenham, Texas, where the company is headquartered. Blue Bell has recalled more than two dozen of its products since last month.

Sabra Dipping Co. announced a recall this past week of 30,000 cases of its Classic Hummus due to possible listeria contamination, though no illnesses have been linked to that recall.

[…]  Listeria is a hardy bacteria found in soil and water that can be carried by animals. It is often found in processed meats because it can contaminate a processing facility and stay there for a long period of time, and it can grow in the cold temperature of a refrigerator. It is also commonly found in unpasteurized cheeses and unpasteurized milk, and it is sometimes found in other foods as well – listeria in cantaloupes was linked to 30 deaths in a 2011 outbreak (link with additional information)

That’s why many companies such as Wal Mart now do self-audits, swab-tests, and modern businesses test as a proactive measure.   Listeria has always been around but with advances in testing it is more readily identified.

The most common place for Listeria to be found is in Deli’s and food processing of products that do not involve cooking before eating.

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34 Responses to News Sources Claim Mysterious Questions Around Wal Mart Unexpectedly Closing 5 Locations – We Share Most Likely Cause….

  1. Daniel says:

    So it’s not mysterious, it listerious.

    Liked by 14 people

  2. aprilyn43 says:

    Your “reasons” sound more likely. In this day of uncertainty, of “False Flags” and “impending doom being announced” things are getting out of hand. We seem to be running around like chickens with our heads cut off. Something’s just are what they are, unforeseen happenings.
    Times are perilous, but we must keep our wits about us; cool heads and clear minds are needed.

    Liked by 1 person

  3. mimbler says:

    Brilliant Sundance, I think you have it. I wasn’t buying the punish the workers meme in the press. Liberals are really prone to projection,

    Liked by 1 person

  4. Ursula says:

    My first thought was they were closing,in anticipation of looting mobs.

    Liked by 2 people

  5. Janie M. says:

    Another site, had tied the closings into the Jade Helm exercise that is to take place in the states where those Walmarts are located.


  6. BertDilbert says:

    My first impression was that it had to do with the Pico Rivera store in CA due to the numerous protest/union activity, with the other 4 being a distraction.

    If the other 4 stores have a listeria problem the listeria in Pico Rivera was probably planted.

    Liked by 1 person

  7. mcfyre2012 says:

    Darn…that negates all the speculation at American Thinker (lol).

    Liked by 1 person

  8. AdukeLAXobserver says:

    I could recommend a few Walmarts that need to be closed because they give people the heebie jeebies.

    Liked by 1 person

  9. That’s not what I was expecting. Honestly, given their seething hatred for Wal-Mart, I thought liberals were in back of it somehow.

    Liked by 1 person

  10. cosmo24 says:

    “but part time workers will be on their own” – The majority of workers ARE part time to avoid paying health and other benefits.


  11. ChiroNP says:

    Great analysis of a likely reason for the store shut-downs. Much less provocative than some of the other theories floating around out there, but you very well may have hit the nail on the head. Thanks for your presentation of information with good rationale. This site is becoming my first stop to stay ahead of the news cycle and clue me in to topics and angles that I would never have found otherwise. Keep up the good work and I will be sure to tip the jar. So worth it!!

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  12. joshua says:

    attention WalMart shoppers….please exit immediately for a flash store closing event. white folks get to leave first, all others exit through the magnetometer checking for stolen merchandise.

    Liked by 1 person

  13. medtech says:

    another possibility is noro virus. another hard to eradicate germ.

    also, the new testing methods based on dna extraction are much more accurate and have a higher percent if recovery.


  14. michellc says:

    I do know that the store in Tulsa that closed is not a store you want to go into after dark and not even during daylight hours if you’re not armed.
    Not saying that has anything to do with it, but if I was WalMart I would have closed it down years ago.

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  15. labrat says:

    Seems like overkill to me to shut down a whole store for 6 months over Listeria.


    • sundance says:

      Not when you think about what one headline could cost. (Think Food Lion mid 90’s, or Tylenol early 90’s….)

      And that doesn’t include the cost of any civil liability for a corporation that massive if someone -in actuality- did get sick.


  16. cosmo24 says:

    A friend saw a young man with a shopping cart at Walmart filled to the max with clothing from the children’s dept. at the refund dept, with no receipt get a refund store credit for $180.00 no problem and went directly to electronics to redeem it. I tried to return a desk lamp with a online receipt 3 months old and was refused as it was too old. for refund.. Go figure.

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    • He likely sweetened up one of the gals in returns. Last time I went to returns at the nearest Walmart, it felt way too much like a social club for friends and slacking coworkers.

      Liked by 1 person

      • cosmo24 says:

        Actually she was a bit irratated and seemed to know it was a scam. Walmart policy is 3 returns per year without a receipt, so she had no choice.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Wow. Three per year! Better fill that cart good! * rolls eyes * Yeah, I can imagine her disgust!!!


          • creekeris1 says:

            I tried to return … something I couldn’t use… (can’t remember what it was)… that was still pristine in the packaging with the receipt, but I had held it a few days too long and was refused. I took it back the following day and “lost” the receipt, got immediate store credit, which is all I wanted to start with.


  17. If it were listeria , why did the WalMart in Texas donate their food to a local food pantry? Wouldn’t that be an issue?


    • sundance says:

      No. Food is perishable – the business is closed – the food is not a problem. The options are either put it in the trash or donate it to the community and get good PR for doing so.


  18. SortingHat says:

    Wal Mart is not even an example of capitalism. It is monopolies which HATE free markets.

    America hasn’t had true capitalism since the 1920s. Since WW2 big companies have had contracts with the government first for war efforts but when peace time came the contracts never went away even though they were suppose to so they are given special protections instead of being allowed to die.

    That is why many went overseas because they could still be protected and yet not have to pay much taxes while the little guys get to foot the bill for all the government regulations and EPA crap.

    The big monopolies you see today are descendants of the robber barons of the late 1800s that wanted control of the worlds’ resources and the laws are designed by the government so the rich can take advantage of it.

    “All you’re bases belong to us!”

    One of the three things Regan was going to do was bust up the monopolies but was not allowed to by Congress so all he could do was cut taxes which actually DID work but not right away and he even said it wasn’t going to work right away unless his three legged stool worked.

    His other goal was to shrink the US Government down but instead he was only allowed to do it in the stupid areas that didn’t have much impact in savings.

    His only goal that was allowed was tax cuts which DID work but took time to show up and he even said it would. By the time Clinton was in office his surpluses were from the Regan/Bush era left over.

    The late 80s/early 90s was when big corporations were over expanding because there was a building boom due to the tax cuts and credit spending which both helped but were not enough and was never going to last forever due to that three legged stool being cut off.

    Big corporations ate each other up and rebranding themselves saying “Let the good times roll!” “Slave labor can never beat us!”.

    The movie Hook about Peter Pan grown up and returning to Neverland back in the early 1990s was making fun of it all the way thru. When he Peter first gets to Neverland he immediately starts trying to sell his company to the pirates because he assumed they were corporate pirates that was going on in our world.

    I never understood the jokes when I was little but still loved that movie regardless but being older I get the little inside hints and appariciate the jokes even morea.


  19. SortingHat says:

    The movie Hook is an example of the big corporation pirates where Peter Pan grows up and has a big business of his own and does those grown up things. When he first sets foot on the pirate ship he assumes they are Corporate pirates and immediately tries to sell his company to them.

    The whole movie is FULL of making fun of the big corporations eating each other up because the tax cuts on the rich made them think the good times will be forever.

    When taxes go up the rich stop investing and start holding on to their money instead or send their money out of the country which in the last 5 years have done so at record rates quietly dumping stocks.


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