George Zimmerman Police Report – The Curious Case of A Broken Wine Bottle, and Swarm of Police Investigators Spanning Four Days

Apparently the Lake Mary Police Department made the decision to charge George Zimmerman despite the non-existence of an actual cooperating victim. The LMPD went to rather extraordinary lengths in order to generate an arrest.   Six police officers, two detectives etc. all on a mission to identify how a bottle of wine was broken on a driveway.

George says she broke it, she says George broke it. Six investigators, body cameras, squad car cameras, DVD’s, neighbors questioned, and eight pages of investigative testimonials later – you discover the Lake Mary Police must have a lot of free time on their hands.

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196 Responses to George Zimmerman Police Report – The Curious Case of A Broken Wine Bottle, and Swarm of Police Investigators Spanning Four Days

  1. mung says:

    What is ironic is that it is acceptable for the FTP crowd to throw a bottle AT a police officer, but if George Zimmerman throws a bottle at the ground he is arrested for assault with a deadly weapon.

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  2. elvischupacabra says:

    Can you say, “vendetta”?

    I’m sure that the FBI will send a forensics team and spend six months sticking it to George.

    Like I said before, the ultimate aim is to get a DV conviction or no-contest against Zimmerman, so he can be disarmed under the Lautenberg Amendment.

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  3. mcfyre2012 says:

    Like I said before…as soon as the trial was over, George should have moved out of state and start a new life somewhere else in anonymity.

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  4. James F says:

    It seems very likely to me that the reason she refused to cooperate was because she could not back up her opening lies under further scrutiny.

    How convenient that the cops just happened to be nearby and hear glass breaking. Nobody even call them for assistance. I wonder how often these cops hang out near Zimmerman’s house just hoping to catch something like this.

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    • justfactsplz says:

      Often I believe. They probably even follow him around trying to catch him speeding or something.

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      • allhail2 says:

        Wouldn’t doubt it. Lake Mary PD really doesn’t have much real police work to do at all. Other than having to be sworn LEO’s, they are maybe a step above mall security.

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        • justfactsplz says:

          I know, I regularly see them. They are kind of like the Windermere police department that have nothing better to do than pass out speeding tickets.

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  5. Daniel says:

    Yes and since the conditions of his bail include being disarmed, I wonder what else might happen?

    You know who might be able to help out when the justice system is behaving badly? The US Attorney General.

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  6. kinthenorthwest says:

    I do have a feeling that Zimmerman does not have the best control on his temper, but I think the media with the help of many others is going to milk it for all its worth.

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    • Lou says:

      I don’t believe he has a temper. If I heard Sybrina claiming it was her son screaming for help, I would have stood up and shouted “Are you kidding me?”

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      • justfactsplz says:

        He is more mild mannered and has been raised with good manners. I never saw a temper like they are trying to attribute to him.

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        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          I don’t know George personally, so I can’t attest to his private demeanor, but his public demeanor seems proper enough to me. But that’s not what I wanted to mention about the police reports.

          In the multiple accounts, more than one officer claims to have heard glass break, and also witnessed a car speed away with its lights off. And, at least one officer even specifically mentioned seeing the woman get in her car. Isn’t it a bit more than curious that breaking glass is heard, and a car is seen speeding away with its lights off, but the officers (apparently) take the driver’s word as “Gospel”?

          Also, not a single officer mentioned seeing George outside when the sound of breaking glass was heard. And yet, after talking to both parties who each accused the other of breaking the bottle (She said George threw it at her, and George said SHE threw it at his garage door) they decided to arrest George.

          Now, there may be other evidence (a broken wine bottle with fingerprints) or another witness (a nosy neighbor who heard an argument and looked outside) that we haven’t heard about, but this arrest certainly doesn’t seem justified based on the scant reports given by those officers.

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          • justfactsplz says:

            Most legal commentators I have heard concerning this do not see the grounds for his arrest and no case. Something is afoot here as we said throughout the trial. It doesn’t pass the smell test. I suspect this was preplanned by this woman in retaliation over the painting. She thought she would take it and sell it . George’s paintings belong to him. So she called the cops. How else did they just happen to be there that time of night that close to his house. And I am still fuming over them not redacting his address and phones numbers of his and West’s. That particular police department come across to me as wanting a piece of George.

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            • Burnt Toast says:

              Recall that GZ is accused of killing the imaginary son of the President, a President with a cult like following.

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            • Mist'ears Mom says:

              Yep, I thought when the first mention of this came out that there was something fishy about it. Wasn’t buying any of it in regards to Georges fault.
              Hah the cops said they just want to make sure a crime hasn’t been committed? Are you kidding me? A broken wine bottle with a she said he said=a crime? Well I guess you could call spilling wine a crime-but DV without any injuries and an unwilling ‘supposed’ victim, uh huh.
              Yes your honor we are charging GZ with the assault and death of a bottle of wine.
              Georges pictures probably are or will be worth something and that’s the motive. She is stealing his property, she is the criminal that needs to be arrested. She wants that painting…so she can sell it on EBay, follow the money. Esh!

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              • justfactsplz says:

                I am over these women seeing dollar signs where George is concerned. He is unemployed, flat broke, and deeply in debt to pay for his own railroading. He needs to stop and think that his current situation is not going to attract good women, only bad ones.

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  7. coeurdaleneman says:

    The State of Florida is still bumhurt that George walked.

    Sure, he’s probably a pain in the rear for those agencies feeling pressure from above. But it’s imcumbent upon him to cut his losses anyway.

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  8. doodahdaze says:

    West will nip this in the bud. Their evidence is absurd.

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  9. justfactsplz says:

    The Lake Mary Police Department would love to bring George down. It is very unprofessional of them to not redact his address and telephone number when they know he is a victim of credible death threats. I don’t see how they had any evidence to arrest him. There is no proof he was the one that threw the wine bottle. However they are determined to bring him to trial for this. People still want George punished. They will hound his every step until he leaves town and the msm will do their bidding for them. Tell me, when is the railroading of George going to end?

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Maybe when he leaves town.

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    • stella says:

      I know that many people think that he shouldn’t have to move away, but sometimes it is just better recognize the truth for what it is. It would be better if he even moved to a different county in Florida. Why stay where he will be persecuted by the police?

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    • seeingeye2 says:

      I don’t recall details of the incident or event, but there was an inicident involving GZ and the Lake Mary police. I do recall thinking how unprofessional the police chief was. He seemed to be exceptionally biased against GZ.

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    • Anne says:

      The Lake Mary Police do seem to be making George’s life after trial very hard. It clearly states at the top of each page of the offense report “Public Version”. Including street address and phone numbers is downright dangerous and really invites trouble and headaches for George and Mr. West. Is George allowed to move out of state? I can’t understand why he lives there if he is allowed to move to another state. I hope he is in therapy of some kind. Incidents are too numerous. I wish him better days in his future.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        I wonder about the moving part because the civil rights investigation with Holder is still open and the Federal Grand Jury has not made a decision on that as far as I know.

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    • Joe says:

      Why should he leave town? His family lives there, including uncles and cousins. Angela Corey and friends (Bundy) are pissed because the self-defense clause was not thrown out by Congress or declared unconstitutional. She also had no probable cause but it still went to trial. The police departments and the district attorneys are all gunning for him. If the voters in Seminole county had voted for another DA and police chief, this wouldn’t be happening. IF the FDLE remembered their oath instead of kissing Corey’s and Parker’s ass, this wouldn’t be happening.

      The only way this will stop is when the attorneys are charged with crimes according to the prosecutorial code, thus getting disbarred and the police/county/state has to pay millions to George Zimmerman. Not to mention, the feds have to pay millions to George. Remember, FBI Director Comey once worked with Fitzpatrick and answered to Schumer.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        I would really love to see all of them prosecuted. And don’t forget Crump. Witness tampering is a crime. Creating false evidence is a crime.

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  10. John Galt says:

    GZ and psycho chick: like a moth to a flame

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    • 2x4x8 says:

      Jay Z gets Beyonce
      GZ gets bounced

      too funny

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      I really don’t think the woman is to blame here. It appears she wanted no part of any police involvement in this. The ex-wife and the other bimbo, yeah, but this woman doesn’t appear to be looking for trouble or her 15 minutes.

      This one is all on LE. And they just happened to be around when they heard glass break. Sure. And they didn’t think they saw tail lights or headlights. They must be camped out on GZ’s street, which they had no problem with releasing in this report, knowing GZ already had to turn in his guns.

      Pure harassment.

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  11. waltherppk says:

    What color was the broken wine bottle? Was this a racist hate motivated bottle breaking? Did somebody violate the civil rights of the wine bottle in an area known for disparate impact on wine bottles of a particular color? Was the wine bottle profiled unfairly according to the color of the glass before it was broken? How does what investigators found about the color of the broken glass compare with other cases of broken wine bottles and is this bottle breaking typical of similar incidents of broken glass that have been investigated or is this case suspiciously unusual? Has the DOJ and the FBI been contacted to offer assistance? When will the DNA results be back on the broken wine bottle? Is this going to treated as the aggravated glass bottle breaking that it appears to be or will it be plea bargained down to a lesser included “butter fingers” type of offense?

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  12. freepetta says:

    With everything that’s going on with terrorist threats, race baiting, murders, cop killings this is what they’re obsessing about.

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  13. Rachelle says:

    No witness, no victim: no case.

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  14. cohibadad says:

    lol. It’s all he said, she said, unless the he is GZ, then it’s she must be telling the truth. And if that isn’t reason enough, GZ had days to come up with his elaborate counter story, er . . . she broke the wine bottle and er . . . her child broke her cell phone a while back. Yeah. It would take days to come up with that, so GZ must be guilty. I like how they act like they pulled her over for not having her lights on, but actually they pulled her over because of quickly leaving a place from which the sound of breaking glass came from . . . and then noticed that her lights weren’t on. Is it that easy to tell where breaking glass happened? And a car leaving quickly is probable cause to pull her over? Or is it more likely that the place of residence of GZ is known to LMPD and if there is the sound of glass breaking and someone leaving quickly then sure as heck that car is gonna be pulled over?

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  15. Is there any thought that the women GZ has been involved with were plants? Crazy thought, I know, but…

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    • taqiyyologist says:

      More likely gold-diggers and fame-seekers.

      It it pathetic.

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      • seeingeye2 says:

        And mentally unstable.

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        • seeingeye2 says:

          Or at least emotionally unstable.

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        • Kitty Smith says:

          I can’t figure out why everyone is bashing this woman. It sounds like she was a bit down on her luck, GZ helped her out, they got involved, she’s got a drinking problem perhaps, things didn’t work out, she has some of his paintings, etc., etc. etc., they had a spat, a wine bottle got thrown on the driveway by someone, and someone left.

          There is no state interest in these matters and most cops usually try to avoid this crap like the plague, yet LMPD are all but waterboarding this woman to make a case against GZ. This stuff happens a thousand times a day across the country without the need for police intercession. It’s called a quarrel. The next thing I expect to read is that the court has ordered GZ be outfitted with a permanent body cam w/audio so that they can monitor him every second of every day; eating, sleeping, farting and snoring. The first report on this story explained that the court was going to order that GZ wear an ankle monitor over a broken wine bottle in a driveway with no injury, no property damage and – NO COMPLAINANT – until West pointed out that GZ has never failed to come to his court dates.

          LMPD needs to STAND DOWN already and do something of value to the community to earn their damn paychecks.

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          • 2x4x8 says:

            you know, it is just one step from making criminals wea

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          • 2x4x8 says:

            it’s one small step for man and one giant leapfor mankind going from making a criminal wear an ankle bracelet for monitoring to a body cam, Real Estate people are into Location, Location, Location, but I prefer knowing what the criminals are doing

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    • 2x4x8 says:

      “{George} just sit there like a potted plant”……..Judge Lester

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    • Daniel says:

      I’m pretty sure they were women. It’s hard for police to question vegetation.

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  16. Wizzum says:

    Pathetic

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  17. oldiadguy says:

    A typical he said, she said, no injuries, no witnesses, uncooperative “victim” and Lake Mary Police made it into a felony? So cautious about removing assorted personnel data out of the report and the PD leaves in Zimmerman’s home address, home phone number and Zimmerman’s and West’s cell phone numbers???

    Another point to consider. The officers just happened to be patrolling a residential neighborhood (look at the map), at night, happen to be within hearing distance of the breaking wine bottle, and coming from the home of one of Florida’s most (in)famous residents. Just a coincidence, right?

    Thirteen thousand residents and 32 officers. Look like they used a sizeable portion of the force to bring in this desperado.

    http://www.policeone.com/police-departments/lake-mary-police-dept-lake-mary-fl/

    Also, a new press release today.

    SMH

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    • mung says:

      Everyone in Lake Mary should call and ask why they are wasting their tax dollars on this.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        You don’t know the people who live in Lake Mary. They don’t have to worry about their tax dollars.

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        • allhail2 says:

          Lake Mary’s residents idea of roughing it is slow room service

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          • justfactsplz says:

            Exactly. Lots of expensive gated communities. Lots of expensive cars too. I hate it when they think they own the road. I just grin in the four wheel drive truck as they zoom by and try to cut me off.

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            • allhail2 says:

              Me too with the 4×4. Some Lexus yuppie tried to cut me off near HD while I was towing a very large trailer, didn’t work. Actually had the nerve to follow me into the HD lot and asked what my problem was. I told him I got 366,000 miles on the truck and unless he really wanted some new racing stripes, don’t try that crap with me.

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    • waltherppk says:

      George is very possibly a repeat offender having a prior not prosecuted offense of breaking a glass bottle in the distant past, maybe it was even a juvenile offense of infant tantrum bottle breaking, but these kinds things involving anger management issues and moral turpitude do tend to follow a person, and sooner or later justice must be served and the debt to society paid.

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    • Chip Bennett says:

      And how were the patrol officers close enough to hear the glass breaking, close enough to see the car leave the property, but not close enough to see anything that transpired?

      I smell a rat – that unsurprisingly lives in the Flori-duh criminal justice system.

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      • Kitty Smith says:

        We know why. If da boss would only go misdemeanor it had to be committed in their presence. Voila! We heard breaking glass and saw a car leave “quickly” – thought it might be an auto theft.

        The police reports are almost comical.

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      • flaladybug says:

        Apparently, Chip, the people of South Florida have developed the ability to hear a multitude of things that normal humans can’t….glass breaking from a distance, and even GRASS in some instances! 😉

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  18. yankeeintx says:

    This is so incredibly weak.
    She claims he threw the bottle of wine “while she was getting into her car”, and that it “broke in the driveway”, but the bottle is found “adjacent to the garage door”? If he did throw it at her, the driveway makes sense, but if she threw it at him from the car, “adjacent to the garage door” is where it would most likely land.
    The police officer must be related to Kreskin because he claims “it became clear to me” that she was trying to avoid any association with Zimmerman.
    Sitting outside his house from 7:45-9:30 waiting for him to “comply” sounds like harassment. Did they already have forensics back on the broken bottle with only George’s fingerprints?
    Poor George gave someone a place to live, and it turns out badly. If this case gets dismissed like all the others, he will be vilified all over again as being untouchable.

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    • John Galt says:

      I looked at google maps at street view on the address listed in the police report. The house has a two car garage with two car wide driveway. If you drive into the driveway facing toward the garage, the front door to the house will be on your right, closest to the passenger side of the car. So it seems to me that you would need to throw over the car to try and hit her with a wine bottle if you were coming out of the front door “while she was getting into her car” — unless she backed into the driveway.

      Bottle breaking in driveway on opposite side of car from alleged victim would appear to be a pretty weak aggravated assault with weapon case.

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  19. Sharon says:

    George needs to develop some situational awareness (both large and small picture) and some personal survival instinct. Tiresome.

    He makes himself such an easy target. Again and again and again. At some point, regardless of police acting stupidly, he has to bear (ADD: some...) responsibility for his endless personal consequences. No “poor George” from me.

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    • Sharon says:

      Until and unless he makes some changes about how he perceives himself within his world, it really won’t matter where he lives.

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      • Kitty Smith says:

        I think there are a lot of places in the South, Southwest and the lower Midwest where he could live without harassment and constantly having to keep a lookout.

        But he definitely needs to make changes and pull himself together. I don’t think he’s fully synthesized what all has happened and it doesn’t appear that he’s getting much guidance.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      I agree with all that, except that he’s being harassed by a governmental agency, one with police powers no less, so he’s up against a tyrant with basically unlimited resources. That is not something George can do anything about. So he gets a “poor George” from me on that count. He is a target by default.

      What he CAN do something about are his personal associations. He should start controlling the things he CAN control and look before he leaps. Like many young people these days, remembering that George is only now just about 30 yrs. old, he jumps into live-in relationships much too fast. Such relationships are nearly always ill-considered because they don’t have the element of truly caring about another person. The brevity of the relationship just doesn’t allow time for that to grow in the heart. So, the relationship turns to crap pretty quickly. Enter the cops and their continuing grudge, and he’s looking right down the barrel at death by cop or death by black militant because the cops keep taking away his guns and announcing where he lives.

      George needs to move, plain and simple, and cool it with the women until he recovers from what all has been done to him and gets back on his feet.

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    • thistooshallpass says:

      Thanks Sharon, after seeing your comment I felt that I should share something that has been on my mind a lot, since the night of the shooting – the behavioral changes were more visible to the public after George’s acquittal, however, may have been kept in check in the interim due to fear – could those changes in his behavior have to do with a physical condition brought on by a brain injury as in the case of PHINEAS GAGE?

      After all, if we believe that George’s head was pounded on the concrete or for that matter bashed around – the swellings on his head proved that – could there have been something like unseen damage which can be verified with proper tests and cured with therapy?

      Wikipedia: “Phineas P. Gage (1823 – May 21, 1860) was an American railroad construction foreman remembered for his improbable[B1]:19 survival of an accident in which a large iron rod was driven completely through his head, destroying much of his brain’s left frontal lobe, and for that injury’s reported effects on his personality and behavior over the remaining twelve years of his life—​effects so profound that (for a time at least) friends saw him as “no longer Gage.” …
      A report of Gage’s physical and mental condition shortly before his death implies that his most serious mental changes were temporary, so that in later life he was far more functional, and socially far better adapted, than in the years immediately after his accident. A social recovery hypothesis suggests that his employment as a stagecoach driver in Chile provided daily structure allowing him to relearn lost social and personal skills.”

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  20. dsb steve says:

    George has much more to lose by lying about throwing the bottle and breaking the cell phone than the woman does. I can’t believe West would advise him that he could get away with that. Is it a criminal offense to lie to LEO as they do their investigation? I say this because the officer says in the statement that he believes her and not him.

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    • Chip Bennett says:

      What evidence is there that Zimmerman was lying about throwing the bottle?

      Why would Zimmerman have more to lose by lying? Wouldn’t she have equally as much to lose?

      Maybe West advised him to say that he didn’t throw the bottle, because… he didn’t throw the bottle?

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      • dsb steve says:

        If George can be shown to be someone who would lie to the police and accuse someone else of doing something he did then he loses credibility in the eyes of people who believed his account of the TM shooting. OJ had no credibility after getting acquitted in his trial and the authorities were able to sentence him to a long term on the theft charge. If he did throw the bottle all he has to do is explain he was upset and did not throw it at her. But once he starts lying, esp after talking to his lawyer, he starts down a slippery slope.

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        • Chip Bennett says:

          If he did throw the bottle all he has to do is explain he was upset and did not throw it at her.

          And if he didn’t throw the bottle at her? What then?

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          • mung says:

            What if he threw the bottle at the car? What if he threw the bottle at the ground? What if she threw the bottle? What if the bottle slipped out of her hand because she was trashed and couldn’t hold it at the same time she was opening the door? What if the bottle fell from a UFO?

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          • BertDilbert says:

            With DV you do not have to throw the bottle at the person, you can break things to intimidate and control a person. However if he did break the bottle he may have done so without intent to control or intimidate. Prosecution would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt his intention of breaking the bottle which would probably be hard to do.

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            • Chip Bennett says:

              The main point here is: there is no evidence to prove who was the person who actually threw the bottle.

              The big problem that the LMPD has is that circumstantial evidence (location of the remains of the bottle, locations of the two parties involved, location of the car, location of the front door, etc.) far more supports the conclusion that the person in the car threw to bottle, and not the person at the door.

              Further, even if the person at the door threw the bottle, given the circumstances, it would be near-impossible to prove that the person at the door threw the bottle at the person at/in the car.

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        • Mr. Izz says:

          O.J.’s credibility issues had nothing to do with the armed theft charges.

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  21. Chip Bennett says:

    So this boils down to:

    • She gets pulled over for driving without lights. She claims He threw wine bottle at her (and broke her phone).
    • He claims that she threw the bottle, and that her kid broke her phone.
    • Police have no evidence either way.
    • Police claim that He had time to make up a story, and therefore is not believable. Police imply that She, who was facing a traffic violation, and came up with a domestic violence allegation while detained, was imminently believable.
    • Police arrest him.

    I mean, it certainly must make no sense that the woman in an emotionally agitated state could have thrown a wine bottle on the ground upon leaving the house after an argument. It certainly must make no sense that she could be trying to get out of a ticket. And it apparently makes perfect sense that He would throw a wine bottle that hits neither her nor her car – yet was attempting to commit aggravated assault.

    Any attempts to verify claims about the cell phone? Has it been used in the past year? Any attempts to find prints on the wine bottle? Any attempts at all to sort out the he-said-she-said, other than Officer Tweedle-Dee’s gut instinct regarding who was and wasn’t truthful?

    The only thing that makes sense is that Flori-duh is pathetic.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Uh………yeah, I guess Florida is pathetic. {sigh}

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    • I’ve been wondering if anyone verified the cell phone smashing yet. I’ve also been wondering how the cops just happened to be there to hear the glass break.

      I don’t know how this is a “domestic violence” issue. Throwing a bottle of wine to the ground may be an anger issue. Throwing a bottle of wine at someone may be a domestic violence issue, but no one can prove what happened either way, So what’s the basis for an arrest here?

      Something about this whole thing stinks like a rotten fish.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        I feel like going and marching outside the police department……………………only, I have a few problems. First, I have a narrow, pointy nose, thin lips, red hair, and skin just a little whiter than snow. Second, I don’t usually use the nasty verbage that goes along with these “peaceful marches” and I actually have a deep respect for police officers. Also,I don’t have the money to bail myself out, because I know I will be arrested for standing there. Think you guys could get up $500,000 for me? 🙂

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    • taqiyyologist says:

      This whole “time to make up a story” nonsense makes me ill, considering that it took Anthony Shahid and Dorian Johnson about 10 minutes to make up a story, and that it took the crew who caused a car to crash into a utility pole in Ferguson a whole FIVE SECONDS to make up a story, in the same video where we saw the crash itself happen.

      Time?

      Lake Mary PD must think he is stupider than even the average Ferguson hood rat, that he needs a lot of time to come up with a lie.

      Someone at Lake Mary PD is absolutely bats**t insane. Oh well, just like most police departments these days, it seems.

      :sigh:

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      • jello333 says:

        “We apologize, but we have to break away from our coverage of the marches going on in France and around the world, because we’ve just received word that the police chief of Lake Mary, Florida is about to play for us the body cam video of George Zimmerman’s arrest. This should be explosive! And after the chief’s press conference, we’ll be joined by civil rights leaders Ben Crump and Al Sharpton to discuss the implications of all this. We also understand that coming up within the hour, President Obama will be saying a few words on the matter.”

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      • justfactsplz says:

        Oh, no. Not the blonde bimbo that gave all of those outside of the courthouse talks. Ugh!

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      • Chip Bennett says:

        Speaking of Zimmerman stalkers… he really is good at attracting some psychotic women, isn’t he?

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      I wonder if they administered a breathalyzer, or collected the bottle shards for fingerprint analysis?

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  22. dsb steve says:

    Is it possible she had called the police ahead of time? She says the dispute was about a painting of his that he wanted back. Trying to explain why the police were nearby as she drove off. Maybe they were tipped off there could be fireworks. Considering him selling his prior work on ebay for a good amount of money maybe the painting is worth a lot of money to her. He probably has multiple paintings he could sell. But if she gets just one she could sell it and get some money.

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    • justfactsplz says:

      I would say that could be highly possible. This was a set up of some kind for the Police to be there right then.

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Who knows. With the apparent desperation of the cops in Lake Mary, nothing would surprise me. They DID seem to go to great lengths to explain how it came to pass that they just happened to be close enough to hear the bottle break, and see the woman get in her car and drive away with the lights off. Oddly though, not a one reported seeing George outside. Is it possible that the cops staged the entire thing, with the help of this woman?

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      • dsb steve says:

        or it could have been nosy neighbors. There could have been a lot of noise if they were arguing. A neighbor hears them and calls the police. But the officer says in the police report that he was there on routine patrol.

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        • nivico says:

          GZ stated that she was banging on the door and he wouldn’t let her in… so it is possible the police were responding to a noise complaint from a neighbor.

          One of you guys who lives in Florida could FOIA a copy of any such call that was made on that street that night…

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      • justfactsplz says:

        Yes, it is possible. I wouldn’t put it past them.

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  23. doodahdaze says:

    If the bottle was against the door and under the eave of the roof they would need a warrant to use it as evidence.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      They only have pictures of the bottle. What a joke.

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      • John Galt says:

        Bottle breakage expert to testify in what direction the bottle was thrown based on the distribution of broken glass and spilled wine.

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        • doodahdaze says:

          Maybe Dr. Baden will autopsy the bottle. Wine spatter evidence is valid. According to the vintage and district. Seminole County has definite problems in the system.

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        • Burnt Toast says:

          Obviously, that is not real hard to tell, we have all busted a few bottles in our time and can pretty much tell what direction it was coming from (you can substitute eggs or anything else with a brittle case).

          This case, broken bottle close to the house, it either came straight down or from away from the house.

          Straight down it sure wasn’t being thrown away towards the car or its occupant with the ‘tosser’ making a quick getaway into the house.

          From away and towards the house, it seems somebody would have seen the ‘tosser’… unless it was the only person SEEN who could have throw it towards the house – the driver.

          Not to say that anybody saw the driver throw it, or drop it next to the house, or whatever.

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  24. jsjavascript says:

    I know I watch way to much television, but George it’s time :
    http://www.justice.gov/crt/complaint/

    USDOJ: Civil Rights Division How to File a Complaint page

    maybe you could even get Parks and Crump to represent

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  25. JB from SoCal says:

    Did y’all catch the tail end of that “AGGRAVATED ASSAULT OFFENSE REPORT” (page 8 of 8)?

    “He was handcuffed using two sets of handcuffs.They were double locked and checked for tightness. He was transported and booked at the Seminole County Jail.”

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    • mung says:

      Could it have been that they were chained together and not that both sets were on both wrists?

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      • jello333 says:

        That’s what I’m thinking too. As stupidly as the cops were acting in general, I think this may actually have been one of the few decent things they did. I’m thinking two sets hooked together (as you say), and also that the “checked for tightness” meant checked to make sure they weren’t OVERLY tight.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      GZ has never resisted, never FTA’d, nothing. Yet he’s treated like he’s John Dillinger.

      This double-cuffing was strictly showboating and yes, I caught it and I’m sure others did, too.

      Some of this was written in the voice of people who thinks they’re bringing home a trophy.

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    • seeingeye2 says:

      They used 2 sets because of his size.

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      • The Johnny Person says:

        Being a prison guard in a psychiatric ward, and having placed more handcuffs on grown men in a week than most cops do in 5 years….I can assure you they did not use 2 sets of handcuffs due to his size. Any normal set of handcuffs can easily accommodate even the largest men of 7 feet in height and 400 pound. Regardless, can anyone explain why the police report even mentioned this in the first place? I mean for them to write this down would be as redundant as them writing out the steps they took to get their car stopped…and motions involved to place the vehicle in park before exiting the cop car. Or is this something new in Florida that they must write out in ridiculous detail?

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        • stobberdobber says:

          “The Johnny Person says:
          January 13, 2015 at 3:50 am
          Being a prison guard in a psychiatric ward, and having placed more handcuffs on grown men in a week than most cops do in 5 years….I can assure you they did not use 2 sets of handcuffs due to his size. Any normal set of handcuffs can easily accommodate even the largest men of 7 feet in height and 400 pound.”

          I am not sure what system you worked in, but I worked in the Florida State Prison system and we either used the anklets or a double cuff-two cuffs, cuffed to each other- to accommodate larger built or muscular inmates for transport of any type. This was to prevent any unnecessary,(say lawsuits), injuries from occurring to the shoulder area,

          For psychiatric patients we used the soft restraints i.e. padded.

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          • seeingeye2 says:

            In my years of working with LE as a civilian dispatcher/matron, I never had much experience actually applying the handcuffs as the officers generally handcuffed the inmates before I saw them. But I saw plenty of them use 2 sets, chained together, for larger persons. Actually, most people can see for themselves by watching Cops on TV. I’ve noticed they also frequently use 2 sets chained together on larger persons.

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  26. McGuffin says:

    I’m wondering if George needs to wear a body cam…..at all times.
    To protect himself from this stuff. One day they’ll take him down for good I’m afraid.

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  27. doodahdaze says:

    The State of Floriduh v. Zimmerman

    In order to convict him of this charge they have to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, and to the exclusion of any other hypothesis four things.

    1. The accused intentionally and unlawfully threatened, by word or act, to do violence to the alleged victim,
      1. At the time the threat was made, the accused appeared to have the ability to carry out the threat,
    2. The accused’s threat created in the mind of the alleged victim a well-founded fear that the violence was about to take place, and
    3. The assault was made either with a deadly weapon or with a fully formed conscious intent to commit a felony.

    The evidence is so weak I doubt they will even attempt to prosecute him. In fact, there does not seem to be any objective evidence at all. I look forward to discovery and the probable cause affidavit of the charge. Maybe they will have to call in Angie and Bernie. Natjack could be the bimbo victim rights private attorney general. Too bad Nelson is now in divorce court and Lester has a conflict. West should make mincemeat out of this.

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  28. Moishe Pipik says:

    The BGI in Ferguson can murder people and burn down buildings, and there are few arrests. George Zimmerman sneezes and off he goes to jail.

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  29. Moishe Pipik says:

    There’s another factor going on here, too. False narratives from “feminists” have put into effect laws and procedures that basically make any accusation from a woman actionable. The accuser is automatically considered to be a “victim” and the accused is guilty until proven innocent.

    That’s just what feminism has done to our legal system.

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Yeah, and they wonder why so many men suffer from erectile dysfunction. Performance anxiety ain’t the only culprit…

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      It doesn’t appear that they even have an accuser here.

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    • The Johnny Person says:

      It’s reached much further than that. It’s gone Way way WWAaayyyyy into the job field as well. I know when I worked a few jobs that I really couldn’t afford to lose or have any problems, I for the duration of that job wouldn’t even speak to a female as long as I was on the clock and/or on the property. And I know other men that also carry with them that same paranoia while at work.

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    • PatrickSMcNally says:

      My impression is indirect since I don’t know the man myself, but Zimmerman around women seems a little bit like a dry alcoholic walking into a bar which has strong aroma. He seems to get a bit tipsy off of the scent itself. For Zimmerman I think it would be a wise idea if he resolved to go for 5 years without any close relations to any women at all beyond just good neighborly relations, and then look at his life again after that. Something like that might help keep to clear the cobwebs.

      As an atheist I don’t normally preach sexual abstention on religious grounds or anything like that, but sometimes one can’t help seeing that there are some for whom this can be a good idea. If a fellow keeps repeatedly landing himself in trouble with women like Zimmerman seems to, then going cold turkey for awhile may serve a constructive purpose. I just can’t imagine that next week Zimmerman is going to meet Miss Right without the whole thing quickly producing another boondoggle. Some healthy distance might be necessary.

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  30. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    One thing about George never ceases to amaze me:

    After ALL this time, he STILL talks to the cops instead of refusing to answer questions and requesting an attorney.. Has he learned NOTHING?

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    • Hank Rearden says:

      George is stubborn and not that bright …. bless his heart.

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    • justfactsplz says:

      Now this time he wouldn’t talk to them unless West was listening in. That was smart.

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        He should have said “Here’s my attorney. You can direct ALL your questions to him” and then handed them the phone. If they didn’t like that,let them take him to jail where he can STILL refuse to answer any questions without the presence (and advice) of an attorney.

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        • The Johnny Person says:

          Actually, he could still refuse to answer any questions even with his attorney present. As far as I know, when placed under arrest can you ever be compelled to speak to the police. Although probably not for long, as of right now we still have protection in place as far as self-incrimination. (Not that it would actually always result in that but you get the idea)

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        • justfactsplz says:

          That is a fantastic idea. Be a potted plant and say nothing until West was with him. I trust West to be on top of all of this. He’s a smart, sly fox. Nobody gets the better of him.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      He avoided the cops until he reached his attorney, who made the first contact to the cops. After that call, GZ said he’d talk to them as long as they’d agree to him having West on the phone listening and conferring while they talked, and the cops agreed. GZ did not talk to them without counsel according to what’s been reported so far. Hopefully GZ stood like a potted plant during booking and after.

      I think GZ has finally wised up to the LMPD. He should take the next step and get out of that jurisdiction, preferably to another state.

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  31. whodoneit says:

    Oh, please – all this upset over a broken wine bottle? Zimmerman has been a “marked man” ever since the Trayvon Martin incident and will likely remain so for the rest of his sadly ruined life. And everyone in a relationship with him knows that if they get mad at him they can give him what for by reporting some cockamamie story to the cops.

    The last time this poor soul was arrested for “domestic violence”, there turned out to be nothing to it. His estranged wife admitted she LIED about the whole thing – case closed. But was she charged for filing a false complaint to law enforcement? No.

    This man will forever be hounded for being guilty of nothing more than defending his life against a BLACK attacker. Seems to me, the only thing George is guilty of is choosing the wrong women. He needs to work on that.

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  32. Burnt Toast says:

    I only skimmed the report, the down to the minute when they knocked on Zimmerman’s door, shouldn’t they to the minute when they pull somebody for driving without lights?

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  34. seeingeye2 says:

    Anyone who ever has a beef with GZ knows his vulnerability. And they know how to start the fireworks

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    • jello333 says:

      Up to this point, I mean even before the Trayvon fiasco, it seems that George has been overly trusting of people, willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. While that’s clearly caused him some problems, I’m also worried that the pendulum is gonna swing 180 for him. In other words, eventually he’s gonna reach a point where he may not be able to trust ANYONE. I’d really hate to see that happen to the guy. 😦

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  35. whodoneit says:

    More respect needs to be shown to George Zimmerman, having the distinction of being the first officially proclaimed “White Hispanic” – whatever that is.

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  36. froggielegs says:

    Am I wrong or were all but Towler’s first report written up after George was arrested on the 9th for something that happened on the 5th? All the others are dated on the 10th and 12th.

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  37. nivico says:

    Page 6…

    Ok, so George refuses to come to the door or speak with the police (exercising his 5th Amendment right to remain silent) and has his attorney call them (exercising his 6th Amendment right to counsel).

    At this point, the police must cease all questioning of the individual and may only speak with the individual through his attorney, however, Towler tells Don West: “I informed Mr. West multiple times that I would not elaborate details of this investigation over the the phone, and that I needed to meet with Mr. Zimmerman personally.”

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    • nivico says:

      And I love how he further goes on to claim that GZ “voluntarily participated” in the questioning… yeah, um, after they continued knocking on his door for two hours and wouldn’t leave. It’s not voluntary if the individual only complied under duress.

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      • The Johnny Person says:

        I’m probably going to be accused of doing the troll thing here…but really, the cops obvious vendetta, their idiotic behavior..none of this should be too surprising to any of you. I know they aren’t this crowd’s favorite, but take a close look at what copwatch has quite literally caught the police doing in this country practically on a daily basis. And it’s not he-said/she-said crap either. Or 2 sides of the story… it’s police caught on camera concocting stories made up out of thin air. It’s video of a guy sitting on his own front porch at his own home and saying nothing. He juts simply looks at a cop that is standing on the sidewalk in front of his house and then laughs a little. He says nothing afterwards either. Just laughs a little. The cop and his partner races up the man’s front steps, shoots pepper spray in his face and then tazes him repeatedly. Once he is able to stand again they then hit him directly behind both knees. Oh and yeah, they arrested him. Or perhaps a cop driving into the side of some woman’s parked car and the cop jumping out with his buddy and inventing a story that included her hitting him and the entire wreck was her fault. Even the police dash cam caught the 2 cops talking ahead of time and planning how they were going to create a story so they wouldn’t have to explain WHY they just drove into the side of someone’s car. And these aren’t isolated incidents folks. At the rate cops themselves are arrested in this country (and I’m talking felonies here)…really none of this behavior should be shocking much of anyone. Ok, sorry long winded whatever’s here. It’s just that this subject puts my blood pressure somewhere way above stroke level. My apologies.

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        • doodahdaze says:

          There are some bad apples in every barrel.

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        • nivico says:

          “I’m probably going to be accused of doing the troll thing here…”

          No, not at all. There is no anti-police or pro-police slant here, just an objective examination and discussion of the facts and merits of each individual situation. In one situation there may be overwhelming support for an officer here, and in another situation you’ll find overwhelming condemnation of an officer’s actions.

          That being said, though, I would caution against conditioning yourself to view every allegation of improper police conduct or excessive force through a lens of “this one time on copwatch, there were these cops, and they pepper sprayed a man who was just sitting on his porch.” The facts of that specific case can’t and shouldn’t be used to broadly condemn all police officers everywhere.

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        • jello333 says:

          As Nivico says, I don’t think you’ll be slammed for what you said… because nearly everyone here seems to take police actions on a case-by-case basis. Oh, there may be a general tendency to lean toward the police perspective, especially considering how tough their job can potentially be, and how little some in our society seem to appreciate that fact. But when an individual cop, or a whole department for that matter, does something they have no business doing?… yeah, most people in the Treehouse will loudly condemn that, even calling for prosecution.

          Some people think that conservatives (as most of the guys here are) are knee-jerk pro-cop, no matter what. I’ll admit I used to assume as much myself. But I’ve come to realize that’s not at all true. Yes, cops are shown a great deal of respect… but only if they’ve EARNED that respect. Many of us have seen with our own eyes, abuses big and small, and I don’t think anyone here would support a cop who does it. Similarly for the “militarization” of many police departments. That’s a reasonable debate to have… just how far cops need to go, what’s necessary, and what’s just an excuse to set up the mechanism for possible martial law somewhere down the road.

          But I think we’ve missed any real chance to have a reasonable debate about police misconduct, “militarization”, etc…. thanks to all the Mike Brown, “Black Lives Matter” garbage we’ve seen recently. It’s so Boy-Who-Cried-Wolf it’s not even funny! These “leaders” and idiotic “protesters” care NOTHING about real problems that we might have, especially the fact that the REAL danger to black youth are OTHER black youth. Oh, and of course they REALLY don’t care about the growing black-on-white racism. And they ABSOLUTELY don’t want to be confronted with stats that show a big reason arrests and imprisonment are disproportionate among young blacks is that VIOLENT CRIME is committed at a disproportionate rate by those same young blacks.

          Nope… they’ve got their agenda, and seriously, calmly addressing possible police misconduct is not on that agenda…. except in so far as it gives them an excuse to further their REAL goals.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      This case is a lead balloon. Slam Dunk for the defense. They will have to call in Corey to write the PC affidavit.

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  39. eastern2western says:

    the biggest victim of the case is the bottle.

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