“They Went Too Far”… Context Helps Make Lots of Sense Now – Jessica Lane Chambers !

Jessica Lane Chambers – ….”She talked to several people about the book. She has started a journal about the abusive relationships and the rape. She had shown very good progress in dealing with her emotions and had replaced her negative coping skills with positive ways to deal with her low self esteem.

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The gang had heard about the journal and thought it was the “book.” She had the rough copy with her that night in her car. She was not naming names or telling secrets of the gang, She did not tell of their drugs, gun running, and the “House that was a safe haven to young Muslim males from Yemen .

They came from the Border in Texas, stayed in several safe houses till they reached New York. There was a house that was run by the Store guy about 3 miles from the now famous store. They stored large amount of guns in that place.

She did not tell about all this, but they were worried that she was going to let info out that would place them in jail. She was just telling about her and the way her life had changed. She only wanted to help other girls. The book was about her life. Not the people that had used and abused her. She had overcome a lot and she was about to leave that town for good. She was going to make a wonderful life for herself”…

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  1. crossthread42 says:

    THINK Folks… maybe OUR Own investigator Mr. Darby is HIMSELF hooked on Opioids?? he is the “right Age” , I’m trying to say, arthritic, back hurts, physical Pain every day… etc, etc.. (example remember Rush Limbaugh? Doctor Shopping, Him being on OxyContin (oxycodone)???? We may have the same problem here in this “investigation”, Mr. Darby et al, doesn’t want His supply cut off,, The interview with the Fire Chief/Fireman/First responder?? I was reminded of someone “Buzzing” on either pain pills or Heroin.. Hence that “Look”.. appearing of being high on Something…. It’s really NOT that far fetched, AND More plausible… (This was what I was going to put forth the other evening in the Car Bumper Fussing the other night/afternoon…)…

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    • justfactsplz says:

      This is very feasible. There could be a lot of folks in that county addicted to various drugs. There is some reason they don’t want this murder solved and this could very well be it.

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    • Dixie Darling says:

      Plus, judging from the lawsuit the sheriff of Como had against Sheriff Darby, which I read on last night’s thread, one gets the impression that Darby is a bully and a control freak. The final outcome of the lawsuit is unknown.

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      • Casper says:

        He may be getting a kickback.

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      • angie says:

        The thing that struck me about that case, other than Darby’s violent temper, was how Darby lost his stuff once Burdette put Tracy Wilbourn in his patrol car., Darby called Wilbourn “my witness”. Almost like Darby didn’t want Wilbourn saying anything to Burdette.

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  2. ty says:

    First thing that come to my mind……Panola County, MS own version of The Pelican Brief, (Julia Roberts)???

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  3. joesbabygirl says:

    FACTS:

    Ali’s family is from Yemen. The Paris terrorist attack today was carried out by Yemeni’s. A lady who worked for the TN DMV, was selling driver’s license to terrorists and was arrested right after the 9/11 attack. After she was released from jail on bond, she was murdered a couple of days later, in her car; to cover up anything she knew.

    Memphis is BIG with the Gangster Disciples, and a “division” of that gang called “Folk Nation”, which is very prevalent in Courtland. To verify this, all you have to do is look at their facebook pages. Their (Gangster Disciples) literature instructs them to follow Islam.

    Guns were very “prevalent” at the M&M store. Nefarious, to say the least, characters frequented this store. Ali is MIA. And know one really knows if he is ever coming back there. Ali also is “friends” with Yemeni’s and Libyan’s, who “rejoice” after reviewing videos showing the IED deaths of Egyptian police.

    The FBI and MBI were on the ground in Courtland immediately after Jessica was murdered. The car was not processed at the “crime scene”. The car was immediately “allowed” to be brought to the infamous “store”; for Ali to post pictures and spread lies and rumors.

    This investigation has been very strange from the start. The fact that Jessica was burned as badly as she was; (her lungs being “toast”) speaks to the fact that she was more than likely, unable to utter anything close to a word, let alone a “name”.

    Sundance would not have posted this article without “vetting” it first. He is no fool

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    • baebeegirl says:

      This is all I was trying to say, but got really tired of dealing (arguing) with some of the newer “hardheads” around here lately. Nothing you said in your post is too far-fetched to be true IMO and you said it better than I could have. Thank you, and ITA he is no fool!

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    • B-more says:

      Thanks. Sometimes it like “The Emperor’s New Clothes” around here.

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    • carterzest says:

      Yup
      “Sundance would not have posted this article without “vetting” it first.”

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    • lou says:

      who says her lungs were “toast”?…….

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    • Tom Fletcher says:

      Two minor quibbles: the Gangster Disciples are actually a subset of the larger “Folk Nation,” not the other way around.

      And it’s the Vice Lords who are tied in with Islam, have been for years. However, Louis Farrakhan and others have attempted to get the Folk Nation gangs (traditional enemies of the “People’s Nation,” of which the VLs are one part) to “unite” with their rivals in the name of…you guessed it, the Black Muslims.

      It’s a minor quibble because there are VLs a-plenty in Panola County and the MDOC.

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      • Tom Fletcher says:

        Also minor because if you switch the names around, I find a lot that’s believable about your post.

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        • joesbabygirl says:

          You are correct Tom. The Folk Nation is at the top of the pyramid there. Should have reviewed my statement a little more. Thanks for the correction(s).

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    • whodoneit says:

      Those who carried out the attack in Paris are French nationals – not Yemeni’s.

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    • Lost in Translation says:

      The Paris shooting was carried out by Yeminis? Where did you get that? They’re Algerians.. did you get the idea they’re from Yemin??From American news? Not to be trusted.. One of the two that are suspects supposedly left their French identity cards at the scene. One of the suspects has given himself up to the police and two brothers are sought..

      http://www.lemonde.fr/

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    • Dvorah says:

      Good points.

      Okay, now that I know Ali’s “friends” celebrate the deaths of Egyptian police, i officially have no sympathy for him. I tried to give him the benefit because he’s a kid, and because he was born into Islam. Some of his videos of the older guys at M&M’s seemed like he really liked them. I was prepared to dislike him if I found out he was directly involved in Jessica’s death or knowledgable of it. Just wasn’t sure.

      I guess I’ve studied what kind of brainwashing these people are up against from day one, and I feel for them. The few who get out of this awful cult often turn out to be tigers for righteousness. Courageous, loving, intelligent people. I was hoping maybe Ali could reach out beyond what his head has been filled with, and seek real truth.

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      • angie says:

        What if Ali is not a kid? He says he’s 19 but he could be older. If he is some kind of operative for either good or bad and they’re trying to either recruit or get information, wouldn’t people feel safer with a “wet behind the ears” kid rather than a man in his late 20’s or early 30’s?

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        • lou says:

          Ali is about as much as a “kid” as I am ……in life experience, he is an old man already….he will not live long….his kind of act eventually makes people pretty angry…..

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      • littletxlady says:

        I was born into Islam and trained to use automatic weapons and fight for Islam…he comes from the wealthy side of Islam not your everyday suicide bomber…he was brought up like that he is NOT a westerner…ever heard of taqyyia ??? ..look at his pics and his friends and family…you have to get out of the western mindset and think like they do…

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    • Ginger says:

      The case you mentioned of the woman in Memphis, Katherine Smith, who was burned in her car in Feb 2002 the day before she was to appear in court for processing drivers licenses for muslims has haunted me since I first read about Jessica’s death. Ms. Smith was found burned to death in her car which had “run off the road” and hit a tree – although it was at such a low speed that it did no damage to the front of the car. Accelerants were used and she may have been shot in the back of the head. The FBI was involved in the case and I think the final cause of death was ruled to be suicide. The “suicide” happened near Hwy 72 and Cayce Rd on the MS, TN line. It was very near a gas station/store at the corner of Cayce Rd. The owners of the store were said to be celebrating on 9/11. Cayce Rd was a serious drug/crime area at that time.
      It was like a case of nothing to see/move along folks. The woman was committing a crime but certainly did not deserve that treatment.

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      • joesbabygirl says:

        I was thinking that she had been burned. But, I couldn’t remember for sure. Thanks for verifying that. That was a really riveting story back when it happened. There are so many people helping these terrorists for their own personal gain, and I believe Ms. Smith was one of them. It’s just sad, that Jessica may have died for no reason other than “knowing” too much with no intention of ever hurting anyone.

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        • Dvorah says:

          Well, it (jihad in all it’s manifestations) starts slow and under the radar in the beginning, and then is starts to peek up once in awhile and show it’s repugnant face until we kind of get used to the sight of it. In the UK, some may have read about the creeping jihad being perpetrated on young girls at risk. I did a study of one case in particular, years ago….the poor child, I think she was only 13 or 14, and if I recall, her first name was Charlotte, from a troubled home, disappeared.

          Rumors, based on some bragging by some local Muslim food vendors, was that they fed her into a meat grinder and fed her to their customers little by little. Sorry for the graphic description. Even after this, and even after large numbers of girls have been found to be the victims of Muslim child predators grooming them, the UK has not yet woken up enough to defend themselves from the onslaught.

          What we are seeing with Jessica just may be the beginning of what the UK has suffered for decades. Our children at risk will be targeted and groomed by Muslims first.

          It’s true that we don’t have the same advantages our Founding Fathers had, like a mostly godly nation, and patriotic, strong leaders. But we do have some advantages they did not have: We can communicate with one another. Islam can’t hide in the dark recesses for as long, and then spring out on an unsuspecting public when it’s too late — unless we allow that to happen. That tends to equal the playing field a little bit anyway.

          Knowledge is power, as it is said. For sure, we have a lot of work to do if we stand a chance at saving our nation.

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      • smiley says:

        did they ever apprehend/try/convict anyone for that..do you happen to know?

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      She more than likely could have been able to whisper.

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    • WAYNE HANSEN says:

      I have been advocating a Yemen connection to this or at least a Yemen connection no one wants uncovered as a result from the very beginning. If you account the initial key info told to us and from who and that info basically keeps this completely local or another job by local biker gangs, then there is “nothing further to see here folks, just another domestic violent crime, keep moving along”

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  4. DeltaBelle4Eva says:

    Holy. Crap. As someone who is not local to Batesville, but traveling through regularly… This IS completely plausible.

    FBI investigations take YEARS to bring full circle and they DO NOT share information until EVERYONE they want are in custody. To do otherwise would compromise years of money and manpower. Hence the seemingly sketchy lack of communication from Champion. He doesn’t have a choice other than to be a puppet at this juncture if this theory is real. I’m sure the Feds would not compromise a big operation by taking over as the face of this investigation. Jessica was a casualty in a bigger picture and those in law enforcement know it.

    THAT’S EXACTLY HOW THE MARSHALLS WERE THERE IN SUCH SHORT ORDER. It’s the only way that piece of this story fits.

    Random sidenote: Anyone remember the Italian restaurant that popped up between Marks and Batesville several years ago? The guy running it was straight out of New York. It never had business, but remained open for quite a while then just disappeared one day. I swear I told my husband on the couple of occasions that we stopped in that the place was a random as anything I’ve ever seen growing up in here. I swear it was part of witness protection or undercover agents. No other explanation. Just saying.

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    • LocalGuy says:

      6 N Tubbs? It didn’t close, the owner moved to Oxford and they’re still open.

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      • DeltaBelle4Eva says:

        Good to know because the food was phenomenal. The location and those that ran it were to contradictory of one another (boon docks meets big city) that it was sketchy to me. Witness protection makes for an awesome lunch convo though!

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    • WAYNE HANSEN says:

      We had a major Al-Qaeda threat/group thwarted here. One of the main guys was a clerk at a 7-11 on the military installation (Fort Dixs).

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      • WAYNE HANSEN says:

        link…interesting read..if you aren’t up to speed on what is going on in America..this was 8 years ago and several were raised here from childhood:

        http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/us/09plot.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

        Not trying to turn Jessica’s story into a big terrorism awareness seminar as again I hope it is a local thing and this can get a face and justice right away that makes sense to what we have seen. But as you can tell these guys are everywhere and you just don’t know until someone sees something like what happened here. Note the investigation took about 2 years after something was seen and reported to authorities. There is some historical about other similar thwarts listed in the article…I think you may find one of those interesting. Give it a read if you hadn’t heard of it:

        http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/us/09plot.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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  5. Dvorah says:

    It seems to me that if Jessica knew anything about any gun-running or safe houses, she would have reported it even in her confused state of mind. M&M’s side business might be directly related to her death, maybe. I have my doubts. I lean towards human trafficking, her wanting to get out and being made an example in a vicious way so other girls wouldn’t try the same thing and so the whole house of cards wouldn’t come crashing down.

    The thread obviously holds a special interest for me, because my specialty is researching Islam. I do think Ali and his handlers were using M&M’s for fund-raising, gun running etc. A theory I lean towards is that Jessica’s murder got in the way of these activities, because of all the media attention, shone a light where the jihadis preferred things stay secret. I do not think Gina7777 is an entirely credible source…SD doesn’t say one way or the other what he thinks.

    I wonder why some have such a hard time though, after 9/11, in believing Islam is still making war on America. They have stated they are still making war on America. Why would they NOT infiltrate the US in every way possible, as long as Americans turn a blind eye?

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    • Casper says:

      Hopefully Ali is in Yemen for good. Hope they pulled that passport.

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    • I’m leaning towards human trafficking as well. I think that’s where Sha-Sha and the “party” piece fit into the puzzle.

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      • ShepherdDawg says:

        QUOTE: “I lean towards human trafficking, her wanting to get out and being made an example in a vicious way so other girls wouldn’t try the same thing and so the whole house of cards wouldn’t come crashing down.”

        I think that this is probably what happened.

        Either that, or local gang members abused and violated Jessica at will, treating her as an object.

        When she came back from Leah’s House with a new sense of self-respect, and didn’t want to be the gang members’ “play thing” anymore, they hurt her to punish her, but “went too far.”

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      Denial. Normalcy bias.

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    • patricia mccoy says:

      they will take us from within our own country and that was told to me by a man from Kuwait who married my cousin and my Dad heard it and asked them to leave and never come back to our house they did not return but they eventually moved to michgan dont know where and dont if you look around at your lil towns or big city you see the signs so get ready americans for we will have to defend our selves and our familys and it is coming cause since 9/11 i have watched a small inner city memphis neigborhood sell there stores and gas stations to men of eastern decent and have watched them funnel men thru there stores quietly every three months the faces change in the stores pay attention to the little things in your neighborhood the faces and the comings and goings of men ust like ALI ,,,,, he knows what happened to Jessica you could see it in is eyes and now he is gone just like the faces change in the stores in memphis frayser area you can stop at any gas station on watkins and HILLS grocery store on overton crossing and you will see what i mean it is all over America like that and that is why i know my cousins husband told my Dad that back in 1995…. they are quietly taking our country from us get up and get mad vote every election and pay attention to the little things the quiet coming and going of faces ,,,, wake up AMERICA i pray for Jessica everyday for the LE to find her killers GOD BLESS HER SOUL SHE DID NOT DIE IN VAIN GOOD ALWAYS PREVAILS AND IT IS TIME FOR US TO TAKE OUT COUNTRY BACK

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  6. sundance says:

    Sometimes in order to reconcile theory you need to separate out what’s known and factual, to what’s thought most likely.

    What known facts can be reconciled with the “journal narrative”?.

    Did Sha-Sha actually know that Jessica went to a party? Or did she just think Jessica went to a party because she knew of a party (cancelled football game – creates opportunity – puts group together) and presumed Jessica went,… because Wilkerson knew the people who were present? Including the four names (Eric, Roscoe, Bryan, Robert)

    Who would have the best alibi ?…. and yet wield enough influence?

    Who would have exposed Jessica to the environment outlined ? Who would have introduced her ?

    What are the surnames (Rudd and Sanfords) of the people who you knew early on were the key players in Panola County?

    Do you remember (first week) the conversation early on about the Iowa Plate vehicle on Herron Road? (blocking a car with gun drawn on driver told to turn around and leave)

    The journal connection actually highlights something which has puzzled many people. All the different angles. Yes, there are different angles – NO they are not all related to her death.

    • Just because Ali and any Yemeni outlier was not directly attached to her murder, does not mean they are unattached to the story around which her murder circled. Nor does it mean they didn’t hold a vested interest into any expose’.
    • The FBI and USMS were already working operations in/around Panola County – Hence the Yemeni Terrorism FBI Alert a week after Jessica’s Murder. They were already there, one can presume they already knew (ongoing operation) something similar to what is highlighted. Yet, just because the FBI and USMS was working Panola County doesn’t mean they where involved with, or had contact with, Jessica Chambers.

    The Yemen/FBI angles exist irrespective of, and independent of, Jessica Chambers murder – not because of them.

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    • mung says:

      Another question to ask one’s self, is would a gang involved with drugs and guns even blink an eye at being involved with people from Yemen?

      Also if you can smuggle people into the country what else can you smuggle?

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    • Ziiggii says:

      Like I said Sage on a stage!

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    • Tom Fletcher says:

      Here’s the thing about Yemen: it has a lot of coast and very little navy. It’s army is a land-based organization. All sorts of smugglers use Yemen as either a base of operations or as a way-station — drugs, guns, and people. Saudi princes don’t do their own gardening — they get Ethiopians through Yemen to do it. They also buy a lot of drugs that come through Yemen. And Turkish guns are all over the place.

      The Yemenis are excellent smugglers. So are Mexican cartels. The two biggest sources for heroin in the world are Afghanistan…and Mexico. And there’s a lot of Mexican black tar in the southeast. It’s all about the money, and Americans spend more money on drugs than anyone. Best way to funnel your money into the hands of Sunni extremists? Buy drugs and slaves from them so that they can in turn buy weapons. Just like the Mexican cartels sell drugs in America and buy guns to run down to Mexico.

      Just like gangbangers in Chicago use family connections in Mississippi (courtesy of the “Great Migration”) to run drugs one way and guns the other. And if you happened to have all three things in one area — say, I don’t know, MEMPHIS — well, one might expect there to be some overlap. And sometimes that means people get killed, and sometimes that means people work together.

      Terrorism is here, and it’s being imported for the right price by the Sinaloa cartel (et al). Areas are being destroyed by drug abuse, and that makes them easy pickings for predators.

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      • Tom Fletcher says:

        I’d also count “Mister” as one of those vital Panola County surnames. As well as Howell and Darby — any of you that have read the Panolian newspaper know how complicit those people are.

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      • ShepherdDawg says:

        Interesting, Tom Fletcher.

        Could Yemen be a conduit for human trafficking?

        I wonder if any girls or women who are kidnapped in Europe or North America or Australia end up in Yemen, or Saudi Arabia, in a modern day slave trade…

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        • Imreek says:

          ShepherdDawg:
          Do a search for the UN report on human trafficking in the sex slave industry. Yes they do according to their reports.

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        • WAYNE HANSEN says:

          Yemen was considered one of the top 4 countries for human trafficking. I pointed that out in a post several days ago but it helps I am not the only one that sees that angle creeping here. I also pointed out that from my experience as I have been all over the world, A tiny blond white girl would be possibly a diamond jewel in trafficking as it sure used to be in the far East when I travelled there. The post was about “how much was Jessica worth and to who” trying to bring about as many motives and also tie in as much of all the odd events as possible. I did address some of the more local motives just that they don’t seem to fit the whole picture.
          I also pointed out that I found advertising for Memphis/Yemen flights. Also that human trafficking is a major portion of Al-Qaeda business and the Yemen government is under fire from the UN (led by US) for not doing enough to thwart it. Then add a Yemen Al-Qaeda major terrorist threat (to Memphis) as soon as the feds hit the ground (and Ali leaves?). It is all really amazing coincidence if it is coincidence.

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      • Dvorah says:

        History repeats itself because we didn’t listen to the Framers of the Constitution. Freedom can’t exist independent of a G-d fearing people.

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    • TCS says:

      Do you remember (first week) the conversation early on about the Iowa Plate vehicle on Herron Road? (blocking a car with gun drawn on driver told to turn around and leave)

      Ummm…no. Am I the only one that missed this? Seems really important.

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    • justfactsplz says:

      Sundance, you have mail.

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    • Dvorah says:

      Sundance,
      Is there a chance Ali was allowed to go back to Yemen because of diplomatic immunity? Maybe he is the son of an ambassador? I can’t figure out why they would let him go back to Yemen. Because he was getting death threats? That seems a poor excuse. There are probably a lot of people attached in some way to Jessica who are getting death threats. Are they all receiving special protection?

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    • littletxlady says:

      excellent…the doors are opening…I

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    • ShepherdDawg says:

      QUOTE: “Did Sha-Sha actually know that Jessica went to a party?”

      Sundance, I thought Sha Sha / Charlotte Wilkerson said she saw Jessica leaving (she said “they left” and then quickly changed it to “she left”.

      I could be wrong, though.

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  7. ty says:

    Could someone point out the advantages of Yemini people hiding in a small rural town. Why a small town where everyone knows everybody’s business? Seems one could hide better in a big city, maybe I’m wrong.

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    • Scyth Altai says:

      Small town. Less people; less people to talk. Money talks.

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      • Unclelooney says:

        Less people who look like you. Very crafty

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      • Small POOR town. Cheaper. it takes less money to make less people talk. Especially if they are spreading the wealth around, including to LE. A book about “overcoming small town gang America” could hit too close to home and stop EVERYONES gravy train down there.

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        • ShepherdDawg says:

          The local Law Enforcement in Panola County should be ashamed of themselves.

          The local citizens trust them to protect the most vulnerable people in the county, but instead they take bribes, let criminals leave the jail at will, etc.

          It’s disgraceful. They have really let down their community.

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    • B-more says:

      Depressed area. Desperate people.

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    • smarty says:

      Part of a network? Moving guns/drugs, coopting black or hispanic gangs?

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      • Casper says:

        moving muslims in to the country and the local idiots buy from them

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      • ShepherdDawg says:

        QUOTE: “Part of a network? Moving guns/drugs, coopting black or hispanic gangs?”

        This. The Muslim international terrorist organizations are not the only groups who seek the downfall of America. There are many “useful idiots” willing to assist them, in exchange for $$$.

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    • lastConservinIllinois? says:

      They only hide out for a short time, come and go – to and from the next safe house – under cover of darkness.

      A modern day ‘underground railroad’

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      • Harley Driver says:

        Bingo. This apparently has been going on for decades. I remember when I was working in Freeport Texas, there was a small airport southeast of Houston that the feds came in and shutdown overnight due middle eastern ownership, I don’t recall the country the owners were from. I also looked at buying a hanger home at an airpark in Sweeny Texas. I decided not to, something just did not seem right so I moved on. I learned later that there is a potential terrorist training camp in that area. Sure looks that way from G-Earth, but who knows.

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        • Dvorah says:

          Oh. You must be one of those people who believe in the Zodiac then. (ref to previous sarcastic comment by another commenter when I mentioned terrorist training camps in rural areas)

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        • Eskie Mom says:

          Not to go OT, but this is a big red flag. The South Texas Nuclear Project is near Bay City & there are dozens of refineries- oil, gas, & other chemicals/ volatiles. I sure hope somebody his keeping a close eye on this. I don’t have much faith in them, though.

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          • smiley says:

            EskieMom..suggested FYI : Google: Kush Area in Mississippi…..then Google: Mayor Lumbaba Jackson Mississippi.
            eye opener.

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            • smiley says:

              the Kush Area thing is not meant to distract or get off-point or suggest yet ANOTHER theory here.
              but it certainly lends credence to the “safe house for Yemens” mentioned in article posted, since Panola Co. looks to be within this (Muslim) Kush Area, designated & created by the Black Nationalist Lumbaba, new Mayor of Jackson which is only about 2 hrs due south of Courtland…and it extends also up into Tennessee, encompassing Memphis (!!)
              its not subculture either….its THE culture, thanks to this Mayor..he seems to have a lot of influence in Mississippi…very radical background.
              might be local color to help explain the status quo there..and might also be impacting local politics ?

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              • ShepherdDawg says:

                Maybe black street gangs think they can get away with hurting white people (sex trafficking, etc) in this area, since the politicians are radical Black Nationalists?

                Maybe Jessica tried to escape so she was killed?

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          • ShepherdDawg says:

            Eskie Mom, good post about the nuclear reactor, refineries, etc.

            A while ago I posted about the still unsolved shooting between unknown person(s) and a security officer at the Watt’s Bar nuclear reactor in Tennessee.

            Perhaps that was an attempt by terrorists to test the defenses of a nuclear plant?

            Supposedly the FBI investigated that shooting, but it was never solved.

            The shooter(s) are believed to have escaped in asmall boat.

            http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2013/apr/25/tva-mum-on-shooting-details/106310/

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      • Harley Driver says:

        Does anyone see the Irony in this modern day underground RR?

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    • Old Redneck says:

      Here is an excellent reason. A 2166 sq foot house in Courtland for $14,900. Can’t do that in a big city.
      http://www.realtytrac.com/homes-for-sale/ms/courtland/38620/452-woodruff-st/221115872

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      • crossthread42 says:

        15K roughly. If I wasn’t “afraid” of the CORRUPTION in P.C. I be tempted to Buy/move there @ that price! A Fixer upper? DIY dream home!!! 😉

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        • Eskie Mom says:

          You know, if the illegals can push the Blacks out of places like Compton, California, as the gangbangers did to the White population before them, why can’t a group of Whites decide, as a group, to move into an area, basically take over, & then clean it up? Form a Home Owners’ Association or something. Those guys get away with murder.

          There are probably hundreds of towns- dozens in Texas, alone, that have “died” (been abandoned) in the US. Maybe more. If US citizens don’t move into them again & rehabilitate them, guess who they will end up in the hands of?

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          • smiley says:

            the new proletariats, that’s who.
            we are importing the proletariat class b/c the working, productive, money-producing American “middle class” stands in the way of the “Progressive” agenda.
            Europe has been doing it now for how many years, decades…France, since Le Pen, if I recall…political correctness/multicultural diversity will ruin a UNIFIED culture .
            and that’s the plan.
            (I hope this doesn’t go to moderation.)

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            • ShepherdDawg says:

              QUOTE: “we are importing the proletariat class b/c the working, productive, money-producing American “middle class” stands in the way of the “Progressive” agenda.”

              Exactly.

              The politicians in both parties and those who control them are actively using third world immigration to dilute and eventually replace a (mostly white) population which WON’T vote for Cultural Marxism with a (mostly non-white) immigrant population that WILL.

              This insidious effort to destroy America has been going on since at least the Johnson-Kennedy Immigration Act of 1965. It is fully supported by treasonous organizations such as the “US Chamber of Commerce”, various Big Business entities, globalists, Marxist professors and news media, etc.

              Every year, due to immigration, thir world immigrants comrpise a larger and larger percentage of the American population. Soon, they will be the majority.

              And the USA will increasingly resemble South Africa, Mexico, India and Pakistan.

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      • 2x4x8 says:

        cheaper in Detroit, which does have a large group of Islamics

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        • hues10 says:

          I have heard that if you go on a vacation and leave your house unattended in Detroit that it is likely to be a demolished shell when you return having been stripped of everything of value by thieves. And, it will cost the city nearly a billion dollars to doze all of the blighted “homes” in the city.

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    • Dvorah says:

      Has to be a small, poor rural area, preferably with serious with gang problems, i.e. LE is overwhelmed and underfunded.

      Re secrets in small towns, that’s the open, honest America problem. On the other hand, Muslims know how to dissemble with a smile. They can be extremely hospitable and warm, even while they would love nothing better than to cut the nearest kufr’s carotid artery.

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      • ShepherdDawg says:

        Part of the problem is corrupt/lazy/complacent law enforcement.

        If a street gang sets up shop in a rural county, and the local sheriff’s department cracks down hard on them, monitoring them closely, not giving them room to breathe, etc, then they will pack up and move somewhere that doesn’t pay as close attention to them.

        The presence of urban street gangs in rural counties can be mitigated with effective LE efforts.

        Needless to say, those are lacking in Panola County.

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    • wanthetruth says:

      Waystation, people, drugs, arms – passing through. Money laundering, money transport. Ali & others not hiding out, just doing business. My take on it.

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    • littletxlady says:

      where do you think the terror training camps are…in big cities???? you have to think like the terrorist not a westerner.

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    • Hot Toddy says:

      Buy enough acreage and nobody knows your business.

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  8. 180daysofkindergarten says:

    I missed the Iowa plates………………guess it is time to go back.
    I’ll tell you why small towns, I’ll tell you exactly why. I’ll use the “Bernie” town which is in Panola County, Texas, In these small towns they are not an exclusive bunch. They are friendly and welcoming and once they think they know you, you’re family. It doesn’t take much. They might be suspicious of a newcomer but a friendly attitude and a little ingenuity by a stranger and they are stranger no more. The suspicious lasts about 30 seconds. Ali or anyone just inserts himself into the social scene of young people and he’s one of them.

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    • lou says:

      another reason is our small towns and rural areas are becoming increasingly poor……as the older people move to be closer to a hospital or love ones, the number of rental properties go up…and the welfare check goes farther in these places…..its happening everywhere….

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      • Tom Fletcher says:

        The loss of manufacturing jobs has done a lot to destroy these communities too.

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        • Harley Driver says:

          TF, I was think the same thing last night. We don’t make or build anything substantial anymore. To quote Mr. Rowe, “We no longer have a relationship with the shovel”. We have lost the skill base to work with our hands and do all sorts of great stuff.

          I have to believe that education, or the lack of, is also playing a negative role in some way.

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        • Dvorah says:

          And the grabbing up of agricultural land for corporate farming. Enslaving of the family farmer.

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          • ShepherdDawg says:

            QUOTE: “And the grabbing up of agricultural land for corporate farming. Enslaving of the family farmer.”

            This. Thomas Jefferson envisioned a society of independent, self-sufficient individual farmers. He must be spinning in his grave.

            Globalist corporations are destroying America. They benefit from the erosion of our borders, the deluge of third world immigrants, the erosion of national sovereignty, and the outsourcing of American jobs to other countries.

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    • joshua says:

      and if someone buys property and has any money, they are very welcome there too.

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  9. mcfyre2012 says:

    Ummm…people, she was writing a journal, not a novel. A journal is a common tool for abuse victims to help heal themselves.

    How could it have killed her? Duh…If you are running some type of nefarious business/operation, would you want someone creating a written record of it? Of course not. Maybe Jessica did not know the full details of what was going on, but she probably knew enough to cause unwanted attention from authorities.

    I trust the instincts if SD.

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  10. David says:

    Do ya’ll realize how big politically this story could be. What if the MSM found out about Yemeni’s sneaking across the border. And having a hand in a young Southern girls murder? And being a part of a pipeline to NYC? AND stockpiling and hiding weapons? And what would happen if some of the Fast and Furious weapons were found in Panola Co?

    What was that, exactly, that Obama said? One thing was: “The future does not belong to those who slander Mohammed.”

    He also said…..Oh hell, something about….” I will stand with them(arabs and Pakistanis) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction”.

    And all this, coincidentally, coming as he issues an executive order to use “proprietorial discretion” not to deport illegals.

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  11. Sharon H. says:

    I wish I knew where I saw it, what day. Someone was shot by someone in that car, i think, and they said the driver “looked like he was 15”. Doesn’t everyone say Bryan Rudd has a baby face?

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  12. Starrdustt says:

    This post by Gina has fascinated me since I first read it earlier today. There are two possibilities. Either it is an honest posting by someone who was really close to Jessica, had spoken with her a lot, and is a real insider relative to her recent life; or it is a scamming diversion by someone with their own useless, hateful and unknowable agenda.

    Frankly, for me, it rings true. But of course that’s just an opinion. For those of you who believe it to be a bunch of BS, I can understand that too. Of the probably thousands of people who visit this site, I’m sure there are some who could effectively hit the right notes to sound legitimate when they are not, especially when it tears at your heartstrings. But keep in mind, if that’s your view, it is just an opinion also. At this point, like so much else relating to this case we simply don’t know.

    If Gina is for real though, I think this is a major big deal. Then we are finally hearing from somebody who knows something useful. The gun running and Yemeni safe house smuggling is something that no one else has come up with, although the potential money laundering at M&M has been pretty thoroughly discussed. It certainly would explain why Daddy Ali got Sonny boy Ali out of town so fast when he got caught up in all the controversy and publicity.

    Note that Gina does not accuse the Ali conglomerate of killing Jessica, or jump into any Al Quida conspiracy scenarios. Although it’s pretty apparent that she probably thinks it, she likely doesn’t know for a fact either. It seems to me that that whole town is such a screwed up mess these new revelations could be just ancillary items that are just somehow peripheral to the actual murder – or not!

    If I were in Gina’s shoes, and were to post on this site, I’d do it just as she did. Just state the facts and keep myself as anonymous as possible. It’s obviously not safe down there. Of course I would also have gone to the cops with the knowledge I had. Maybe she has. But maybe she has enough experience with the cops and authorities in Panola County to think that it might not be a good decision for her longterm health. Maybe she is hoping that with a little well placed prodding, CTH can get to the bottom of this matter.
    If so, Gina, somehow or other, and very discretely and safely, tell us more if you know any more.
    It would help a lot if you could privately contact Sundance, assuming you haven’t already, to help establish your credibility.

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  13. ShepherdDawg says:

    I still think there is a gang-run forced prostitution ring targetting vulnerable white girls and women that is operating in the greater Memphis area, and probably there are similar rings throughout the country.

    I believe that these prostitution rings are operated by criminal gangs such as the Gangster Disciples, Vice Lords, MS-13 and numerous other street gangs.

    I further believe that organizational skills, financing and networking/connections between various cities are provided to these street gangs by “Muslim mafia” groups and possibly other criminal organizations.

    I believe that the authorities are turning a blind eye to the exploitation, rape and forced prostitution of these white girls and women, because no one cares about white people anymore, and even many middle-class white people look down on these vulnerable girls as “white trash,” or, to use an odious phrase that another poster on here used a few days ago, “drugged out harlots.”

    The vulnerable “white trash” girls who are being exploited are just as valuable, precious and deserving of respect, dignity and protection in God’s eyes as anyone else.

    As a society, we need to start caring more about vulnerable white women and girls who are being mistreated.

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    • sundance says:

      @ShepardDawg, it’s not an “either-or” proposition.

      Are there gangs? Yes.
      Are there Vice-Lords who would help with safe-houses etc etc.? Yes.
      Would they think about terror trafficking networks any differently than say, the weed operation ? Probably not.

      Forced prostitution, drugs, sex trafficking, meth, weed, robbery et al, can still go on and be part of the overall concern; and yet not a singular aspect specifically responsible for Jessica’s death.

      [It wasn’t the bookie who broke Sam’s leg for non-payment, the bookie just broke the bone, it was actually Boss Gotti. The bookie was just doing his job; A job he knew so well he never had to ask for instructions.].

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      • TexasRanger says:

        About Gina’s statement about young Muslim males from Yemen coming from the Border in Texas by way of Mexico and stopping in Mississippi and staying in several safe houses till they reached New York.

        And, there was a house that was run by the Store guy about 3 miles from the now famous store. They stored large amount of guns in that place – these allegations begs another question;

        Could this local gang and the young Muslim males from Yemen Gun Running involve President Obama’s and DOJ, ATF, FBI Attorney General Eric Holder’s illegal fiasco Operation Fast and Furious supply of guns being sent to Mississippi instead of Mexico from the border in Texas?

        So, Obama could be helping with this type of Black Gang and Muslim related illegal activity with his open border and easy gun supply operations. It’s impossible to say, but the possibility exist.

        The gangs being the Mississippi Black Squad Gangster Disciples and the Mafia Insane Vice Lords and perhaps protected by the Panola County Sheriff and District Attorney DA.

        Operation Fast and Furious gun supply was also referred to as Gunwalking.

        Just one more theory in the many possibilities about Jessica Chambers murder in Courtland Panola County MS. Because when people are deprived of facts they tend to use their imagination.

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        • smiley says:

          and, apparently, this area of MS (western/northwestern) is “friendly to this ilk..its called the Kush Area, as per Jackson mayor.
          Jackson lies about 2 hrs almost straight south of Courtland.
          Courtland lies only about an hour southwest of Memphis.
          its a “corridor”, of sorts.

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      • Casper says:

        They get those girls hooked on drugs and they will do anything for them.

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        • ShepherdDawg says:

          QUOTE: “They get those girls hooked on drugs and they will do anything for them.”

          Yep, that is one big way that innocent, vulnerable girls from broken homes are lured into prostitution (whether organized prostitution rings, or simply being a s*x object for gang members).

          After being plied with rugs and alcohol, these girls are often raped and sexually assaulted, which destroys their sense of self-worth and self-respect and dignity.

          From there, the evil gangs can force the girls into a life of sex slavery.

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      • Starkey Morgan says:

        I wonder how strong the vice lords are in Forrest City.

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      • ShepherdDawg says:

        Thanks for your reply, sundance!

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    • Dvorah says:

      I lean towards your theory on the proximal cause of Jessica’s murder. Muslim and Islamic ideology will be swirling in and around this, just because Islam has declared war on America and it is an opportunistic warmongering ideology. It will exploit American weaknesses to the maximum.

      Not to sound like a KKK person (I listened to some “white separatist Youtube show once just to see what they discussed and how they discussed it, barf — they could barely conceal their contempt for darker skinned folks) — but there probably a reason white folks get a little paranoid and defensive at times, from an historical perspective. Worldwide, white folks are in the decided minority and have ALSO been enslaved and abused. So, we need to care for one another without hating and without excluding those different from ourselves. Therein lies a challenge.

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      • Dvorah says:

        You know when some of the big “sales” go on? During the Superbowl. They haul in semi-trucks with human cargo on them to the area. Maybe Panola County has a similar dynamic — football and business go hand in hand.

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        • ShepherdDawg says:

          QUOTE: “You know when some of the big “sales” go on? During the Superbowl. They haul in semi-trucks with human cargo on them to the area. Maybe Panola County has a similar dynamic — football and business go hand in hand.”

          I’ve heard about sex trafficking during the Super Bowl. It’s horrible. A mega-circus that conceals the abuse and forced prostitution of many innocent girls and women.

          I wonder if a similar operation was happening on a smaller scale during the MS state football championship?

          Maybe Jessica was expected to be part of the “human cargo” by the gang members, and when she resisted or tried to escape, she was killed as retaliation and as a warning to the other enslaved white girls?

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      • ShepherdDawg says:

        Thanks for the post, imreek.

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  14. closerlook41 says:

    O.K… who do we know from Iowa? besides Bryan Rudd? oh wait…. the Rudds… the rudds who were supposedly parked out of camera range at the M&M, The Rudds of whom Sandy is one of the matriarchs? Sandy who supposedly called Jessica over under pretext of bumming a smoke (her words, unverified) The Rudds who were in town for the weekend? Correct me if I messed up the data points….. I’m going from memory here, and I sure have brainstormed this today…. My mind is tired.

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    • closerlook41 says:

      Isn’t Teapooh in that family? Which makes BreJuan in that family. Now if we only had some gasoline… oh wait…. nevermind.

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      • closerlook41 says:

        Didn’t Jessica meet with Bryan’s mother the night before because Bryan was coming in from iowa? Or did I just imagine that?

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      • Dvorah says:

        Shhhhh. Didn’t you see him pointing his finger and threatening to sue? 😉 I was entertained by how many people seemed to make a point of using his name and his baby mama’s name for like 20 posts immediately following. I love giving a hard time women who think raping white kids and setting them on fire is a good idea.

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    • ShepherdDawg says:

      Isn’t Derrick Holmes connected to Iowa?

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  15. lorijean2785 says:

    I’ve been hanging around since the Zimmerman/Martin fiasco. You guys are the best at shining light in the darkest of places! I keep wondering about the cellphone LE has in custody, if it’s hers and it is an Android phone she might have had the location services on? If the battery was in before the incident, it would have recorded where she was going.

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  16. doodahdaze says:

    There is a Muzz/Gang connection. It is called prison. The Muzz are inside the prisons converting the black prisoners.

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  17. italia11 says:

    Jess wanted to tell her story of being abused and her drug experimentation. She wanted to tell her story of giving her life to Jesus to help other girls who may find themselves involved in similar destructive behavior.

    Jess dated within her socioeconomic circle. Dating black guys is very,very popular and accepted among her peers. She was not part of the underbelly class, the gangbangers.

    I haven’t see any evidence of a journal or a book in any form. How would they know about a journal?

    The question to me: why did Sheriff Darby tell Emergency Responders to scrub the scene immediately? Cole had to have told Darby what Jess told him – who torched her and Darby responded with a dire need to protect Someone.

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  18. Derk says:

    When read in Kedricks comments from his FB page way back, he was talking about Ben causing his daughters death. I think that others blame the father as well. I took it as him knowing that the dad was involved, possibly in this newer train of thought on the smuggling.

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    • derksut says:

      Sorry, I meant to say Jerrick Todd. His FB rant where he blames the father.

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      • David says:

        Yep, that’s the one I was trying to find. It read to me, that it was something the father did that caused her death. Retribution. Retaliation.

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    • ShepherdDawg says:

      While we should consider any piece of evidence, I’d take anything Jerrick Todd is saying with a few grains of salt.

      Considering that his name rhymes with “Derrick”, he could be one of the perps, and in any case, he is a member of the Courtland gangsta crowd.

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  19. insomniakat says:

    I want to apologize for being a PITA in this current thread. I didn’t expect my posts to come off as arrogant or to arouse suspicions. I guess I’ve just been irratable over the lack of new info, and unfortuanately, I posted while crabby and tired. I didn’t think about how my posts may have come off to some. It’s difficult to keep the facts seperated from theories and speculations, and that’s been a growing concern of mine. I worry that the more complicated theories lead farther away from Jessica’s murder and her killers, and I admit I was exasperated by this post. Maybe I need to take a break from this case for a day, but it’s very hard to not think about this case, lol.

    Like most of you, this case has pulled me in, and I spend a lot of my free time reading about it, and trying to keep up with these threads. I’m a regular person who’s been reading here since the MB case in August, but only started posting since this case was posted here.I think this is a valuable site, and I’ve learned a lot, and continue to learn more every day here. So while I can’t get behind this theory, I want Justice for Jessica as much as all of you, and I hope the truth about what happened to her comes out, and those responsible prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Anyway, my apologies to those I offended.

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    • Les says:

      I doubt anybody would take offense to anything you stated truthfully and without malice. If they do take offense, it is probably a habit and their own problem. lol

      That’s how I pick friends in real life, the offense test. I stay away from people who are perpetually offended. Those kinds of folks expect to have their feet kissed and egos stroked constantly and I don’t have the time or energy for that. I like people who can take a punch and throw a better one. I find that infinitely more interesting.

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    • angie says:

      Frustration, I think we all understand. 🙂

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    • Dvorah says:

      Did you read what Sundance wrote above? I’m not sure it’s a theory about why Jessica was murdered or who as much as more of the possible larger environment swirling around her, but…I shouldn’t speak for Sundance. Read his long posts here on the second page of the threads. It’s very enlightening….of course.

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    • bob says:

      insomniakat,

      I’ve read here off and on since the Zimmerman case and, like you, have been drawn in as well because it’s unfathomable to me that one human being could do to another what was done to Jessica Chambers, thus I’ve followed the conversation for the last couple of weeks.

      For what its worth, I don’t understand the posting of Gina’s previous comments as the only content of the above article with absolutely no explanation, other than the title, which conveys nothing. So I understand your frustration.

      Of late, I’ve seen mostly rehashing and conjecture of the same names and information. I do not mean that as criticism of the good folks who are here to shine a light where it would seem darkness is preferred. I only mean to express that since no actual facts are coming in, its natural to try to keep this pursuit alive, leading to redundancy and frustration.

      With so many frustrated, it seems to unnecessarily tease readers by posting the article leaving readers guessing as to it’s importance or veracity. It only serves to clutter the field of thought and compound the confusion.

      I say that understanding that I will probably be attacked by those who appear to hold Sundance in a kind of reverence. Its no big deal, just not my way to believe too strongly in any of the other humans. Having said that I can understand your objections and doubts. Perhaps one or two of those would have been enough, though, and likely saved you having to make an apology. : )

      I would ask Sundance, in the interest of clarity, peace of mind, and most of all justice, to please offer some explanation for your post. Do you have reason to believe it is true? Can you say anything solid that adds to the facts? Otherwise, you’ve left us readers with a paradox and the feeling of having been strung along, hoping Toto will find “the man behind the curtain”.

      The same applies to the mystery witness who came forward, whom we’ve heard nothing further about. Surely the developing status of that could be addressed, even if it’s only a morsel to let your readers know if its still a live lead, or not.

      Please take this as constructive criticism, at the most. Overall, the information and insights here have been enlightening and provocative.

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    • mung says:

      Apologies accepted, keep in mind that we deal with a lot of trolls and others who wish to cause trouble here, so that is why I was defending the tree.

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    • Well, at least you didn’t get attacked for it. Oh wait …

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  20. Les says:

    A suicide bomber (aka terrorist) blew up a van today in Sana’a and killed 37 people lining up to become police recruits (aka not terrorists, Yemeni people) and wounded 66 others. This isn’t the first time.

    You can’t use “Yemeni” and “terrorist” interchangeably. It’s not right. They are dying, too. They are a divided country like we are. Most of the regular citizens want peace and prosperity but the violent fanatics want to destroy them and keep them in the Dark Ages.

    Fair is fair. We should be very specific when discussing terror groups. I dislike the idea of defending Muslims, I’m not a fan of that belief system, but a lot of regular people in different countries are being terrorized and we write them off because they don’t look like us.

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    • Dvorah says:

      You can’t define Muslims as all wanting terrorism, but Islam certainly can be defined. Islam is a fascist, imperialistic, warmongering ideology that has no room for any other belief system. It seeks to dominate, not to live side-by-side. Islam is an ideological system that advocates exactly what you described happening in Sana.

      Having said that, your sentiment is why, though I dislike how Ali behaves, I hope for him to have a personal redemption. I study Islam, and the more I learn about what a repulsive belief system it is, the more compassion I have for the people born into it.

      Yemen is not a nation divided like America is dvided. There are two fanatical belief systems competing for control — Sunni Islam and Shia Islam, and both systems see America as deserving of death. What they look like has nothing to do with it. I happen to think Yemenite people are very attractive.

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    • littletxlady says:

      you have to look at the “Yemeni” ppl that are involved in this particular case and find where they stand…go look at Ali’s family and the ppl who have commented on his posts and pics…follow each and ever one of them and their friends and comments and on and on …and just keep doing that and see where it leads you…go to the Alasani family group and follow them, go to the House of Fadel and follow those just keep digging and inform yourself. You might be surprised just where this all leads…not saying Ali is directly responsible for JC’s murder…just dig and see what doors open…inform yourselves as to what is going on in America in every small town and big city…

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      • Dvorah says:

        Yeah. I doubt Ali was directly involved. For now my theory is, they were fundraising via M&M’s, for whatever, jihad, or maybe just sending money home. But it was not all legal and it was probably at least partially for jihadist activities.

        Jessica’s murder brought unwanted sunlight to the area, so the mission had to pack up and go home, for now.

        As far as Ali’s attitude towards Jessica, we don’t really know. Islam is very bigoted against women, but many Muslims don’t go for a lot of what Islam teaches. They don’t advertise their dissent. Dangerous for future well-being.

        Ali may have known ahead of time, or not. He may be sympathetic to Jessica or not. We just don’t know. I noticed after someone made a joke to him about “not burning bitches” — he said LOL, then he quickly responded “FCK him”. He sounded pretty hacked off about the joke to me. He may have had a friendship of sorts with Jessica and perhaps her murder and the manner of her murder really bothered him.

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  21. angie says:

    We know Ali was affiliated with a bunch from South Panola.
    Is there an “Ali” convenience store catering to a similar bunch from North Panola?
    Does one gang come from one school and another gang come from the other school?
    If there is another Middle Eastern store owner doing some of the same things we suspect Ali might be involved with from Gina’s post, do they work together or compete?
    Are there hard feelings between the 2 areas?
    Could Jessica somehow have been caught up in a “crossfire” or turf problem if there is a conflict? Did she perhaps start dating someone new from the “other side”?

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  22. carterzest says:

    I see how it is. The _Legion Anon 0Hour1 team has been bombarding me with PM’s today, attempting me to follow new squirrel tracks…. I resisted.

    I see that @TheLastRefuge2 liked this comment though….^^^

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  24. jakeandcrew says:

    I don’t think this is fake. This writer is mature, writes well, and she knows things that only Jessica could tell her. Call me crazy – I just plain believe it.

    Why wouldn’t Gina just take this info to the authorities? Because that town is so locked down, and everyone is so tight-lipped, they’re either afraid to talk or they don’t want to incriminate themselves. And maybe she doesn’t know who she can trust, even in LE.

    So she posted here, where she could see there were some people who truly care, and are genuinely working towards justice for Jessica, and she gave us the information to help us to accomplish that.

    And for that, I am very thankful.

    Plus, it all fits! Bear with me…

    Gina says she had talked to people about the “book”. But she had started a “journal” to work through the abuse she had suffered. The logical place for her to start such a journal is at Leah’s House – probably why it was handwritten, not done on a computer or any other gadget.

    “The gang had heard about the journal and thought it was the “book”. Somewhere on here Sundance said sometimes it’s more important what people think is true, than what is true. She was not telling about all the illegal activity going on, “…but they were worried that she was going to let info out that would place them in jail.”

    Gina lists the illegal activity – drugs, gun running, and illegal alien “running”. How did Jessica know all of this? Her former boyfriend Bryan Rudd for starters! The Rudd family is neck-deep into Gang Disciples, and it’s obvious from FB pictures that Ali is very familiar with the gang members. I’m sure the gang members are well-paid for whatever they do for Ali.

    This is a small town, and she’s in a relationship with a gang member, in the thick of a family heavily involved in the gang. Of course she would know what was going on. Why didn’t Jessica go to the authorities? She was probably scared to death to try something like that. She was emotionally fragile, probably not very self-confident – I believe she was getting much better, but I don’t think she had been strong enough in the past to go against…pretty much everyone she knew.

    The altercation/arguments that took place a week before she died, may well have been about her journal/book – they wanted her to scrub parts out, or scrub the project entirely. Seeing what they were involved in, I understand that better now! They’ve got some big-time crime going on here, and they don’t want ANY light let in.

    This was a threat to ALL the gangs in Portland, because probably ALL of them were involved with Ali in his “businesses”. I think they joined together to carry out this “task”.

    Sandy Rudd is Gangster Disciple. Boone Mista is Vice Lords. They are from rival gangs – so why are they working together on “Eddie Harris”? (“Eddie Harris” has got to be some kind of code for Jessica.)

    Because it benefits them both to get this “problem” solved.

    More coming…

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    • Dvorah says:

      I don’t doubt Jessica knew a lot of what was going on, but I do doubt a bunch of jihad minded Muslims are going to inform any woman of their plans. If Ali was in on that type of thing, he may have spilled the beans to some of his “homies”, or may not have. And maybe through them, Jessica heard more than she should have. But there wouldn’t be a direct communication between Middle Eastern jihadist men and a troubled teen-aged, infidel, Southern girl, even if she had converted to Islam, which I doubt she did. The kufr has an even lower status than a woman. In fact, I think goats have a higher status than a kufr according to Islam.

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      • WAYNE HANSEN says:

        I have no idea or don’t necessarily think Jessica knew of a terrorism tie, I do think that it is very odd for a refugee or immigrant to just pick that area to go buy a store and live there out of anywhere in America they can go. I wasn’t even aware of Hamas connections to the area for the last 20 years until looking into this. I also know that someone doing something really big gets really nervous if something may interfere with their ability to conduct business. I also know that various terrorist groups or subgroups move drugs, guns, people, money through the local gangs by pairing a mutual interest. At a minimum the allegations of what is going on in the area paired with through or whom etc….this area should be all over Homeland Security’s radar if it wasn’t already. Seems more interesting then just a few guys that want to learn to take a plane off and not learn to land it. One other thought, if the terrorists can get us all to kill each other and make money doing it, doesn’t that work out for them as well?

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    • PatrickSMcNally says:

      “knows things that only Jessica could tell her.”

      Where? What? Which? It seems like the author could easily have reviewed the speculations outlined on this blog many times already and then selected some points to weave together into a neater storyline. Perhaps it is authentic and not another Witness 40. But there is nothing about he Gina statement which stands out as offering new information that had not already been put together as a hypothesis by someone. There is no special verification of such hypothesis either.

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  25. jakeandcrew says:

    On November 30th, a week before Jessica’s murder, early in the morning, Sandy shared this FB post with her FB friends, one of whom was Teanna Rudd Byers:

    This story is a complete fake, from a satire website – but did Teanna, or Sandy for that matter, understand that? Don’t know.

    Later that day, Sandy posts this on her FB page:

    One of Sandy’s facebook friends, Katt Barnes responded to her post:

    Katt – I didn’t see it.
    Sandy – It’s on there.
    Katt – Oh, Okay.

    What is “it”? The original posting about Eddie Harris to Boone?

    A little over an hour later, Sandy posts this message:

    There was someone named Houston who had died recently, but Harris? No.

    Late that night, at 12:30 am on December 1st, Teanna shares the article that Sandy sent her, and adds her own “take” to it:

    She says, “Somebody need to rape all his kids in front of him then sit the house on fire an watch them burn….i bet he was a white man SAD”

    So, the week before Jessica’s death, there’s a “R.I.P. Ed Harris” post by Sandy Rudd, and a very chilling rant by Teanna Byers about raping and burning children.

    Also, a week before Jessica died, there is a report that she had an altercation with someone early one morning in the parking lot of the M&M. That was first reported on 12/18. On 12/26 the interview with Boone Mista and Rachel (Denise) Tutor is shown. They were questioned (for 6-7 hours) about a text message that Rachel sent Jessica two days before she died, and something between Boone and Jessica that he (actually Rachel) characterized as a “lover’s quarrel”. Yeah, right.

    Both of those altercations/disagreements could have been about the journal that Jessica was keeping – the book that they thought she was writing.

    And Sandy and Teanna’s FB posts, the same time as Boone gets into it with Jessica – just coincidence?

    More coming…

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    • Ad rem says:

      Since I see you’ve got “more coming”, might I ask you to please refrain from posting MORE than 3 links per post? WP will automatically read you as spam with all those links… Thanks.

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    • Totally Domestic says:

      …..”and watch them burn.”
      I remember the fireman’s eery feeling that whoever did this might be
      near by.

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  26. jakeandcrew says:

    The day before Jessica’s death, Teanna sent another hateful FB post out:

    Then, the day that Jessica was murdered, four hours before the 911 call was made, Teanna posts another “R.I.P. Ed” message.

    Sandy was at the gas station that night. Teanna’s husband/boyfriend was the gas can man.

    There was a plan to do something to Jessica, and probably to destroy her book. Auntie Sha Sha might have thought that they went too far – but it seems like they did exactly what they intended to do.

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    • Totally Domestic says:

      “…that smile you always keep on your face…..”

      Oh how they hated that she was now happy!
      She had gotten the victory over those low life
      thugs!!!! They were having NONE OF THAT!

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      • ShepherdDawg says:

        QUOTE: “Oh how they hated that she was now happy!
        She had gotten the victory over those low life
        thugs!!!! They were having NONE OF THAT!”

        Yep.

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    • Totally Domestic says:

      Look at how Sandy Rudd and Teanna Rudd are mocking Jessica’s faith.

      Sandy Rudd: (BEFORE Jessica’s death)
      RIP Ed harris
      MY PRAYERS go out to the _________ & Harris family.

      Teanna Rudd (BEFORE Jessica’s death)
      RIP Ed ……………GOD DON’T MAKE NO MISTAKES.

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  27. Herlock Solmes says:

    I think Sundance is really reaching here. What evidence does anyone have that Jessica was seriously contemplating writing a book? To write a book, one first needs a writer, then editors, and most importantly of all, a publisher. Those are not easy or trivial tasks, especially for a 19 year old girl.

    It might be true that Jessica’s murder was the result of “talking” or exposing something about someone, but I doubt the whole book scenario ever crossed the killer’s mind(s).

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    • smiley says:

      Leah’s House (or whatever its called) + Jessica might have had a “rough draft”…
      and maybe she had only a personal diary that they all took for “a book”.
      and maybe nothing in it was actually incriminating…but in perps’ paranoia, they thought it was.
      just my thoughts.

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    • alan says:

      Herlock, YOU know what is involved in writing a book…the average thug doesn’t. Just the mention of a book about Courtland must raise all sorts of paranoia. The book is still in play, reference a motive to silence her….snitches get stitches, ya know

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    • unclelooney says:

      Yup, she probably dreamed of writing a book, becoming rich and famous, but she had a long way to go before that would happen.

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    • observationj says:

      People are still questioning the book thing? This was even addressed by the MSM’s limited coverage of the story in the context of the funeral. I’ve seen it brought up several times. I’ve decided to take a back seat and just follow along instead of cluttering up threads, but I’m going to make an exception.
      Google “Linda Oliver jessica chambers”
      Linda Oliver is a writer who lost her daughter to domestic violence. She met JC at leahs house and also spoke at her funeral.

      quick google search:
      http://www.kokomotribune.com/news/features/hundreds-at-funeral-for-woman-burned-alive/article_fe08a700-5214-5bb5-ab35-59bad64dbca4.html

      BATESVILLE, Miss. (AP)

      “Alabama author Linda Oliver said Chambers had recently asked her to help write a book about her life.
      Oliver, of Birmingham, said Chambers approached her while she was packing up after a speech about her own book at an Oct. 25 church conference in the Batesville area.
      “She thanked me for sharing some of the horrible facts of my own story” and then asked for help with hers, Oliver said. “She said, ‘I want my story to be told.'” Oliver did not elaborate.”

      Yes, there is something there.
      The only thing any of this really implies is that there was A LOT of shady business going down in Panola, and an “insider” (JC) was seeking to have her story told. “Her” story… not an expose’.
      This does not point fingers at any person or group specifically, but does demonstrate a very strong possible motive. Unfortunately it looks as through many people/parties could have shared this motive… and therein we might better understand the difficulties with this case.

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      • observationj says:

        edit: Linda Oliver did not “lose” her daughter to DV. In her own words she “nearly lost” her daughter.

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      • smiley says:

        very good info + insight, Oservationj.
        shouldn’t be ignored.

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        • smiley says:

          sorry..Observationj (typo).

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          • smiley says:

            there seems to be a strong gang/criminal subculture in that town/area…throughout the entire area stretching up into Tennessee.
            also seems..we don’t know for sure, but seems…that local authorities might be intimidated?
            or hamstrung by political correctness.
            is it safe to suggest that?

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        • observationj says:

          Thanks.
          Some variation of this info should be stickied or added to the original post.
          This into, in the particular context, combined with SD’s subtlextual vote of confidence in “gina’s” comment… I’d say we are back to a very possible “snitches get stitches” scenario.

          Now… back to the car fire. Speculation time. Was there a journal that JC kept, and it was talked about and either in or suspected to be in her car?
          Did this lead to an altercation with someone looking for the journal?
          Was this the prior altercation before heron road?

          Was there a plan to scare JC and destroy the journal? Is this where things “went wrong/too far”?
          There seems to be several comments made by locals implying that some sort of confrontation was expected.

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          • smiley says:

            lots of questions.
            IF the book/journal motive, they would have had to have KNOWN (in advance ?) that J had this book/journal w/ her in the car that night.
            how would they have known that?
            was she known to carry it around w/ her at all times?
            the whole thing appears to be set up (premeditated)..if so, how would anyone involved known she had the “book” w/ her (in order for them to destroy it) ?

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            • smiley says:

              if she had it w/ her that night, would she have have taken it to the “party”?
              doubtful.
              if they were looking for it (to destroy), didn’t see her with it (party), then gang-raped her at party….then looked for it car…?
              theory kind of falls apart there but I think this “book” angle still could be relevant.

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              • smiley says:

                above comment AGAIN in moderation…!
                sure would like to know WHY so many of my comments go to moderation.
                I keep asking for an answer but, as yet, don’t get any.
                is that typical here?
                a little disconcerting..

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                • Eskie Mom says:

                  It just happens, smiley. I don’t think it’s anything CTH does, it’s WordPress. Be patient. My posts go to spam all the time. One, maybe 2 at most, didn’t show up eventually, out of a couple of dozen that have gone to spam (or wherever they go).
                  (The mods have to manually go through & get them to post, I think. Look at the number of posts on just one thread. :runs away screaming: )

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                • smiley says:

                  LOL…ok then….thanks EskieMom.

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                • pspinach says:

                  WordPress and/or any other anti-spamming system, which is a must in this age of internet trolls, does an algorithm and considers your comment spam if you post too many times in a row or too many too quickly. Ask yourself if this is what you are doing. I’m not an expert on how the algorithm works since it differs and is subject to revision as is seen fit by word press.

                  Too many people just keep posting and posting without regard to the reader and the mods, IMO. A chat site is different, where chat comments flow quickly, updates in real time, and lower/upper caps is generally omitted. This is obviously not a chat site. It fares well with Treepers because of the well thought out comments. There are bazillion chat sites to go to if one doesn’t care to read thoroughly, nor digest the material, comment thoughtfully, and don’t want to be moderated or have your comments go to spam. My beef is also when commenters especially new ones barge in, post in staccato style and then complain and therefore they quit. Gawd!

                  Why do people not understand this? The mods also keep telling us about WordPress spam quirks and it goes over some people’s heads. Sorry for the rant, but it has to be said! And there is no kind way to say it.

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              • ShepherdDawg says:

                Smiley, we don’t know what conversations Jessica may have had in the days leading up to her murder.

                Maybe when she talked to Sandy Rudd or whomever at the M&M, she mentioned the diary, and the gang members decided on the spot to lure her to the “party” and hurt or kill her. Maybe they didn’t have time to plan very well, which is why the staged accident was sloppy.

                Or maybe Sha Sha or someone tried to get Jessica to bring the journal with her, saying she wanted to see it, or help write the book or something like that.

                There are many reasons the gang could have suspected she had the diary with her.

                We simply don’t know…

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  28. Dvorah says:

    Whether she was going to write a book or not, there is reality and there is perception. Just look at what baby mama believes about the pacifier/gun story, what was true (satire) and what she perceived — that someone now deserved to have his kids raped and their house set on fire and burned before his very eyes, because of the satire story.

    Someone can be murdered because of misperceptions on the part of the murderer. And other, larger, national security agendas, jihadi agendas, can also be weaving their way in and around the actions of the murderer and his or her victims. Those other agendas might play into the murder, or they can might be a reason others want all the publicity after the heinous crime to go away.

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    • smiley says:

      a lot of “other agendas” in play here, IMO.
      which agenda has the most power, in this “region”, over all the others?

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      • PatrickSMcNally says:

        That would not really matter as far as this murder goes. A crime does not have to committed by whatever agenda has the most power. Sometimes powerful agendas can be disrupted by crimes committed by people who don’t have much power.

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        • smiley says:

          are you sure yet about “how this murder goes”?
          I didn’t say this crime “had to be ” committed by any agenda.
          its simply a suggestion, as a possibility.
          might depend on the level/type/extent of local corruption.
          as well as…other things.

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          • smiley says:

            but..PatrickS…you could very well be right.

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            • smiley says:

              also might depend on which crime we’re getting at.
              Jessica’s (presumed) rape/murder could very well be the result of a myriad other crimes, people dropping the ball when they shouldn’t have etc…all connected..to protect an agenda.
              just my thoughts.

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              • smiley says:

                could MODS plse enlighten me as to why the above post is “in moderation”.
                I’d really like to know..is something wrong about it?
                if so, plse advise so I won’t keep doing it.
                thank you.

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                • angie says:

                  It’s probably a word press issue. I’ve had benign comments go into moderation. Eventually, your post will appear unless there was something really objectionable in your post.

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                • smiley says:

                  thank you for that revelation, angie 🙂

                  Liked by 1 person

                • pspinach says:

                  Ask yourself: Are you a troll???

                  Trolls post for the sake of posting, continuously challenging others without careful thought, for the sake of it.

                  If so, then your posts OUGHT to go to spam automatically so the mods don’t waste their valuable time addressing non-punctuated junk.

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              • ShepherdDawg says:

                What exactly are you referring to smiley? I’m confused?

                What agenda or “other things” do you think is controlling the Panola area?

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  29. Totally Domestic says:

    Does anyone know the birth order of Sandy Rudd’s children?

    Is Bryan her baby boy???????
    My guess is she is a smother mother who blames others for her baby boy’s troubles.
    Jessica for breaking up with Bryan.
    Jessica’s mother because she reported that Bryan stole her gun and some other things.
    And Bryan had to move to Iowa because he would be facing arrest if he staid home with mommy.
    Jessica’s dad because he doesn’t approve of Jessica dating thugs. Proof positive he’s KKK.
    An to top it all off Jessica is prancing around town with that “smile on her face”.

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  30. triggerstep says:

    I’ve always thought Jessica’s murder was about the proposed book.
    You are silenced not because of what you are going to say but
    because of what you have the potential to say. If you have the potential to
    hurt powerful and immoral folks, they will kill you. I expect that the DA and Darby
    had the most to lose if she wrote a tell-all. Ali could also have had some
    problems. The gangs would have suffered least. Everyone was well
    aware of what they were up to. But they were the logical ones to actually make
    the hit. Killing her a few yards from a main road early on a Saturday evening
    was supreme arrogance. They knew they weren’t going to get caught.

    The younger Mister left a post on Twitter on Dec. 3, something like, “It’s going down,”
    then an ad for a Christian rap concert. I never thought this was what it seemed.
    Gangster Disciples don’t go to hear Christian music. If Vice lords are in with
    Muslims, the last place they’d be found is a Christian music concert. I think the
    Christian rap ad answers two questions: what’s going down and when? The
    answers were The Christian (Jessica) and December 6. I think the tweet(?)
    was a go signal.

    I think Jessica’s stop at M&M was the trigger for what followed. Somebody there
    made a phone call.

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    • smiley says:

      “somebody there made a phone call…”
      that makes a lot of sense.

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      • smiley says:

        its impossible to do the necessary follow-up on all the many logical deductions here, the leads, the solid clues…without actually being there, at the scene, in the area.
        so the theories just seem to either stop..or go on & on..and then get over-analyzed and head into “the weeds”.
        just venting.

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  31. triggerstep says:

    Smiley-

    The reason that the theories just wander off and evaporate is that
    we have virtually no facts. Theories connect the dots. Here there are
    almost no dots.

    To me it is strange that in the first few days of the investigation
    by the authorities, we heard of accelerant, accelerant in her
    mouth and nostrils, and the fire chief being told of a name. Since
    then we have heard nothing except that the investigators don’t have
    a clue.

    I am beginning to think that the local authorities are hiding behind
    incompetence and will never solve this crime. The Governors remarks
    reinforce my feelings.

    The feds need to come in on this one.

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    • ShepherdDawg says:

      QUOTE: “To me it is strange that in the first few days of the investigation
      by the authorities, we heard of accelerant, accelerant in her
      mouth and nostrils, and the fire chief being told of a name. Since
      then we have heard nothing except that the investigators don’t have
      a clue.”

      Maybe Holder’s CRS is hushing things up?

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  32. Diane says:

    “I want to write a book, but I don’t know how”

    From Live Webcast of Jessica’s Funeral Service…

    — Linda Oliver tells how she met Jessica when she came to MS on Saturday, 10-25-14 as a guest of Liberty Hill Baptist Church (Batesville) to do a womens conference.

    “It was a grreat day, it was filled with love and we each told our story. My story through many tragidies of my own, writing my daughter’s book called “Everybody Has A Story.”

    “At the end of that day I was cleaning out my table with CDs and things and packing my boxes away to travel home and I looked up and I don’t know how long she’d been stanidng there, but a beautiful tiny blonde was standing there, just watching, just observing, just standing there, and I sensed her presence and I said,’ hello, what is your name? She said, ‘Jessica’. I said well, it’s great to meet you Jessica.”

    “She thanked me for sharing some of the horrible facts of my own story. And she said to me that day, ‘I’m going to write a book.’ And I said, you are? she said, ‘I am, she said, but I don’t know how – will you help me?’

    “And I said, yes, I will help you. You’re on facebook; we’ll become friends; we’ll get this book written. She said ‘I want my story to be told.’

    The next day, 10-26-14, on Sunday morning Linda sang at this same church and Jessica was there and approached Linda again and said, “Please don’t forget me”.

    more here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4T7NhIu1AU&feature=player_detailpage

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    • ShepherdDawg says:

      Diane, this was a very useful post! Thanks!

      So now we know the church conference location (Liberty Hill Baptist) and date (10-25-2014) that Jessica talked to Linda Oliver.

      Good find!

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      • ShepherdDawg says:

        Also, this post confirms (for me at least) that Jessica was born again in Jesus Christ and accepted Jesus as her Personal Savior.

        She died a martyr for the Christian faith and is in heaven now, rejoicing with Jesus and the angels and saints.

        Thank You, LORD Jesus, for saving Jessica’s soul!!

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  33. ThankYou,Treepers says:

    Video of JLC inside store sure makes it seem Ali was holding her up with chitchat to allow time for events to unfold outside after it appears Sandy Rudd and/or whomever called her away from store and pumps so gascanhefty could come out store door to pumps without her noticing.

    Then a few hours later as other comments have noted Ali displaying pics of her burned car looks like a triumphant flag waving.

    Commemoration of victory akin to Ground Zero mosque?

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  34. pspinach says:

    For all the skeptics, who know the truth when they see it while the rest languish in speculation not backed up by faith and intelligence, and not supported by an algorithm of probabilities however intuitive (meaning experience doesn’t count for much), in an ideal world, we’d know what happened 100% to MH370.

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  35. pspinach says:

    Use some deductive reasoning and problem-solving please. Maturity means not everything is served up black and white on a platter.

    A young woman in emotional trauma goes to a drug rehab house for counseling. Is it THAT OUTRAGEIOUS to believe journaling becomes a new hobby and trend for her, and that she would sometimes carry it with her to jot notes. We don’t have all the facts, but use deductive reasoning. If no journal is found at home, then is it possible it was destroyed in the car?

    The car was the focus because Jessica was outside having incredibly survived much longer than most victims. Why was the car the focus? Something in the car.

    Over here. Black Randy, an odd character to be friended by a 19 year old while she was within the Leah House program. He was also in a car accident only one month ago. What did these two oddly combined individuals have in common? Knowledge useful for a book. Jessica was communicating with him. They know about the dark side. They want out. They are desperate to get out. Maybe a book would do it.

    Rather than lash out at something, follow it through. If we then hear that Jessica’s journal is fact, in the hands of the LE already — dead end to the lead, throw it out.

    This is too important.

    Ali and Yemen? I’m not sure how any one can assert that Ali is harmless. Fact: dead Jew photos, chickens in a pot, FB. That photo of Jessica’s car was like a bringing proof the job is done properly and to his satisfaction. I’m apt to think not in terms of killers now, but participants. If there’s DNA, where are the arrests then? There is none. No arrests.

    No one saw Yobama coming either, I bet.

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    • ShepherdDawg says:

      Do we know that Randy wanted out of the gang lifestyle?

      I wouldn’t assume Randy is a good guy without any evidence.

      For all we know, he could have been one of Jessica’s abusers.

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      • WAYNE HANSEN says:

        Randy was pending a new drug possession charge at the time he friended Jessica, not sure with his past where that put him on potential return to prison. If it weren’t an accident and obviously that would be hard to prove now, then unlocking the motive/killer of that accident would possibly unravel this one. I do note that his son Kedrick’s car may be in the video and I believe Kedrick was at the store (in video if I recall correctly). From his facebook he is mourning fairly hard on the loss of his father. Is it possible he blamed Jessica to some degree for his death and then if so why? He appears to be one of the characters around her the last night of his life and he knew his dad was talking to Jessica about “things” and his dad suddenly gets in an accident…does he know it was not an accident or is he suspicious that it was not and talking to Jessica got him in trouble with someone. A lot of these guys (thugs, dealers, pimps) have a beer with each other and then off each other out of “just business”. Randy also had another charge recently as well drug related so it does not look to me he was getting away from the life.

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    • WAYNE HANSEN says:

      quick point on journaling…normal therapy suggestion..so yeah there probably was one from Leah’s house. I don’t know what corroborates it being with her that night and just taking and burning the book would suffice and maybe scarring her or she could have played along and just wrote another one. It would be possible to me that it was the straw that broke the camel’s back though. Reading between the lines (and yeah that is really hard to do), there seems to be several folks that had various beefs with her none of which normally lead to what happened (with sane people arguing) and any of which could have individually caused the result (with gang type mentalities).

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  36. WAYNE HANSEN says:

    I don’t want to stray from this case but saw mentioned previous on Desi Jones case. I have not noted it got picked up here. There is some hope in that one (and that is the point here to show hope for Jessica), but sparse mainstream news is making that one hard to keep up with as well. The hope is this arrest (see link) may become related and I imagine LE will do anything they can to link this guy to Desi if they haven’t already or the 15 year old victim isn’t Desi. Amazingly less smoke around this one to chase and yet a friend of a friend heard something and this guy gets picked up. If you aren’t fully aware of that case Desi Jones is a 15 year old girl that snuck out of her house and went to a wooded area called Little Egypt (or so it appears) which is a local teen party area and this individual was picked up on a separate investigation for raping 15 year olds in the area. One of his hangouts is Little Egypt. I hope that case finds justice and closure as well. The link: http://am1050.com/2014/bremen-man-arrested-for-rape-sexual-misconduct-with-a-minor/

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  37. WAYNE HANSEN says:

    I would add that clearing and showing no ties to any Yemen folks right away irregardless if they felt they may find something related in this crime may be key to keeping any suspected activity uninterrupted that an investigation may be open on. It just makes no sense to me (if this is why the Sheriff cleared Ali so easily) that authorities would go out of their way to tell him things initially that would bring attention to him. Also why would he want to bring attention to himself…unless as we know he loves attention he is being proactive about deflecting attention in this case. Would love to know what the autopsy says (anything in throat blocking/burning airways? chemical composition? or just smoke inhalation.

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  38. WAYNE HANSEN says:

    That whole Robert Holmes thing and the Iowa plates on a car blocking the road and shooting..around the same timeframe is really interesting..At least we know there is something going on with Robert Holmes as far as logs/records etc..nothing on the Herron Road shooting to know if it is real or some story someone thought would be funny. The Iowa connection may be getting more interesting and if the conspiracy was this involved then it wreaks of some higher intelligence or would you give this group that much credit. Do we know if Robert Holmes would have been of any interest to Jessica, although you would think Bryan would be (i.e. “Bryan and Robert are down for the evening, you should come and hang out”). Wasn’t it Sandy Rudd at the store saying something to her and asking for cigarettes?

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