Australia Stops Issuing Visas for West African Nations

Reuters […] Australia on Monday issued a blanket ban on visas from Ebola-affected countries in West Africa to prevent the disease reaching the country, becoming the first rich nation to shut its doors to the region.

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Australia has not recorded a case of Ebola despite a number of scares, and conservative Prime Minister Tony Abbott has so far resisted repeated requests to send medical personnel to help battle the outbreak on the ground.

The decision to refuse entry for anyone from Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia, while touted by the government as a necessary safety precaution, was criticized by experts and advocates as politically motivated and shortsighted.

Adam Kamradt-Scott, a senior lecturer at the University of Sydney’s Marie Bashir Institute for Infectious Diseases and Biosecurity, said the ban would do nothing to protect the country from Ebola while potentially having a negative public health impact by unduly raising fears and creating a general climate of panic.

Nigeria EbolaMedical professionals say Ebola is difficult to catch and is spread through direct contact with bodily fluids from an infected person and not transmitted by asymptomatic people. Ebola is not airborne.

There has been a growing chorus of critics, including public health experts, the United Nations, medical charities and even the White House, denouncing mandatory quarantines as scientifically unjustified and an obstacle to fighting the disease at its source in West Africa.

“Anything that will dissuade foreign trained personnel from coming here to West Africa and joining us on the frontline to fight the fight would be very, very unfortunate,” Anthony Banbury, head of the U.N. Ebola Emergency Response Mission (UNMEER), told Reuters in the Ghanian capital Accra. (read more)

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48 Responses to Australia Stops Issuing Visas for West African Nations

  1. moogey says:

    This is Australia’s second step against Global initiatives. First they made a move to protect their country against Radical Extremists via passports & entry, now they close their borders when the UN and WHO are screaming that they must remain open for humanitarian purposes. Hip Hip!

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    • yankeeintx says:

      Oh great, it is already being tested in clinical trials at Walter Reed Army Medical Center on humans. How do they know the vaccine will work on humans, unless they expose those vaccinated to Ebola? I wonder if any of the soldier being deployed are part of the experiments, and are they volunteers?

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Ain’t unusual, lots of vaccines have been to their trails on soldiers. It can easily be explained and society’s long-held belief is that the soldiers volunteered (especially post-draft) as they were nor suitable for other honest employment. We do things that many MANY members of society would not voluntarily do (obvious, otherwise they’d have enlisted) and some things they wouldn’t dream of doing in their worst nightmares. USA Today has a nice article about an anti-Eboal vaccine being made in Colorado that looks as if it will be tested on my soldiers, just as a new anti-malaria vaccine most likely will be. ‘Yeah’, the public might say, ‘try it on the soldiers first as they need protection from things they find in foreign lands, I’ll take it when it’s found to be safe and I need it.” Just part of the job – apparently ‘all enemies foreign and domestic’ includes pathogens.

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        • yankeeintx says:

          If they volunteer, and they are given an unbreakable contract to be compensated should things go wrong, then I would feel better about it. Many still don’t believe that Gulf War Syndrome exists. Exposure to Agent Orange brought about a long slow death to many. Those willing to sign that blank check to our government, should have to worry that it may be that same gov’t that is willing to kill or mame them. With the current POTUS, our military has to worry more about the administration’s leadership, than our enemies.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            My father and I traded off Vietnam tours – he already being a WW II vet and a loadmaster instructor – got moved into the Ranch Hand program. His death, some 15 years later, was officially attributed to his handling the Agent Orange and a grateful country, by the time the lawyers prosecuting the case took their cut, sent us a compensatory check for such an insultingly small amount that it was never cashed, it’s in a box somewhere. It wasn’t the issue of the amount of money per se but the amount that was left over for the military families after the various parasites fed off of the proceeds. The VA, after much prodding by Congress to drop their ‘ain’t no such thing as Agent Orange poisoning’ doctrine (much like their ‘ain’t no such thing as Gulf War Syndrome’ BS) established an Agent Orange program. Those of us exposed are on file and if when we drop dead we are supposed to inform the VA so that they can do the math to see if it were Agent Orange connected, actually or statistically.
            We already are supposed to have a contract, morally unbreakable as any lawyer will tell you that there’s no such thing as a legally unbreakable contract. Look at how the military members severely damaged in Iraq/Afghanistan are so heavily relying upon civilian programs like Wounded Warriors to do things the government that contracted to send them into harm’s way should be doing. The Innercity Welfare to Work Program for the Perpetually Unable to Find Productive Work, AKA the VA, is too busy creating social contracts with its employees (not a new issue) to deal with the veterans as it was chartered to. Hmmmmmm – maybe we can get the VA to establish isolation camps for soldiers who are disabled and upon whom new drugs/vaccines can be tested?

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            • yankeeintx says:

              I can relate. My Dad was a Seabee that built heliports in Vietnam. He ended up having the top of his ears cut off, the end of his nose, and 7 different spots of cancer off the top of his head. He never submitted claim paperwork because he said there people worse off than he was that really needed it. It’s the same reason he never increased his disability percentage. The promises made to these men, and then broken are disgusting. When Dad went to the VA for hearing aids (he was an EO1), they gave him business cards that read: “hard of hearing, please speak loudly”. Mom had to storm the Senators office to get him his hearing aids. Many people seem to think that because they volunteered, they knew the risks. But the gov’t lied about the safety and the effects of exposure to many things for years. They were made promises when they volunteered, and only after having kept their end of the bargain, did the gov’t renege on them. How bad are the effects going to be from DU that the military has been using, and reassuring everyone that it is safe? What are the effects going be years from now for all of those that only had low level, short term exposure? Morale is at all time lows, so what happens when we have to return to a draft? Are we going to draft all those who have never worked a day in their life, but are really good at “Call of Duty”?

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              • czarowniczy says:

                Yep, See Bee – Navy equivalent of my Army Combat Engineer MOS. Lots of ‘engineers’ ended up with various skin cancers due to our being out working in the tropical sun until we were cooked like rotisserie chickens. I got so sun burned on my legs from a bridge building job that my knees were swollen and I could barely walk – again, that was part of the job. As for being hard of hearing – welcome to the club. During your Dad’s and my time the damages from impact noise (construction, gunfire, etc) were well-known but zero protection was offered and, as it would impair the job performance, actively discouraged by the rank. Go you the VA and you get the story that a certain level of hearing loss is age-related and another amount is acceptably ‘job-related’ with no compensation or treatment. Almost total deafness is lightly compensated – guess you get a bigger ‘hard of hearing’; card. Airborne personnel who jumped with heavy equipment loads and still have their jump records get a shoo-off as the VA says you can’t prove the condition known as ‘jumper’s back’ or blown knees are ‘service connected’. However, they have a Doctor Mobutu who is training to become a board certified neurosurgeon from his previous life as a veterinarian in Uganda, who will be glad to operate on your back under the close supervision of a US board certified neurosurgeon who now works for the VA instead of making triple or more of his VA salary on the outside. Yeah, them’s my guys.
                I have civilian docs who have some respect for how I got my damage and whom I trust far more than I do the VA.
                Let’s see what conditions pop up in the years post-Iraq/Afghanistan and how the VA and their little puppet masters in DC will deny any connections as they have dome in previous wars.
                Hmmmm – return to the draft army I remember or forceful conversion to Islam at the point of a sword – hmmm, throw in the VA and I’ll have to get back to ya’ on that one.

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                • yankeeintx says:

                  I guess we shouldn’t complain too much. After all it was just a conflict and not a real war. We should be thankful that it wasn’t just declared “workplace violence”. /s/

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  the ultimate workplace violence I guess

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  2. chuckles49 says:

    Truly a voice of reason in the wilderness..

    I don’t understand how the new military policy concerning our troops squares with the CDC objections to travel bans and quarantines in the US..

    In a statement, the Army said Chief of Staff General Raymond Odierno ordered the 21-day monitoring period for returning soldiers “to ensure soldiers, family members and their surrounding communities are confident that we are taking all steps necessary to protect their health.”

    The Army isolated about a dozen soldiers on their return during the weekend to their home base in Vicenza, Italy. That included Major General Darryl Williams, the commander of U.S. Army Africa, who oversaw the military’s initial response to the Ebola outbreak in West Africa.

    “We are billeted in a separate area (on the base). There’s no contact with the general population or with family. No one will be walking around Vicenza,” Williams told Reuters in a telephone interview.

    Aren’t they in fact quarantining them to prevent the possible spread of ebola? I’m sure they’re not being allowed to go out for their favorite soup or play a few games of 10 pin!

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  3. Are they taking American refugees?

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  4. carterzest says:

    Good on them.

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    • moogey says:

      Lived there for 25 years, but moved two years ago. My hope is that they and all other communities don’t ever have to deal with the infection, but as long as there is a chance of it happening, I pray that they are more on top of it, than they were with their 911 emergency system.

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  5. Tony Abbott has good sense about a lot of things. Can’t say the same for the current Administration. In fact, just the opposite. No one can be this inept accidentally. This is all part of his fundamental transformation he promised.

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  6. boutis says:

    The news media is not talking about the costs. Treating one patient with Ebola is ruinous. Cleaning up where they have stayed is ruinous. Tracking their contacts is ruinous. The costs are astronomical. The Abbot government would rather spend money on something else. Perhaps something productive. Nurse Hickox seems to think that it is her right to do as she pleases and require the tax payers cover her costs of exposure IF she gets sick. Quarantine is relatively cheap compared to the costs associated with Duncan in Dallas and the Dr in NYC. Protecting the public from a deadly disease also means protecting the citizenry from ruinous costs which Christie did by making sure Hickox did not expose anyone (or their business, or their public transportation system, or a school, etc) in NJ and was personally responsible for her own transport out of the state without sticking the bill to the taxpayers in NJ. Abbott as a conservative is being conservative fiscally also by not allowing costs to be passed on to the taxpayers that they haven’t agreed to pay. I think this argument is going to be brought up after the election. The Obama administration doesn’t want to talk about costs but many in the public, especially state and local officials and business already see it.

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    • libby says:

      This. Its ok to bankrupt the USA, but no harm should come to the beggar nations

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    • arttart1983 says:

      boutis ~ you make many good points. Besides possible hidden Ebola patients, there is very little about the astronomical cost to the taxpayers as you point out, all by design of Obama/administration for exactly your suspected reason: wait until after Nov. 4th, it will be a hot button issue just like illegals/cost of Obama Care skyrocketing if released before the election.

      Something Australia has offered was to donate 2 million dollars for treatment/supplies in the 3 hot spots, BUT none of their citizens will be offered up to work in the hot spots in which the UN is pleading, “they need 5,000 nurses/Physicians immediately.” Supposedly, they have commitments for 2,000 & that doesn’t include our US Troops being sent there.

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  7. moe ham head says:

    let anyone who wants to go, see you later just dont let them back in

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    • boutis says:

      I guess I don’t have a problem with letting medical personnel, government workers, and media back in but they have to pay for it. They should have to come back on chartered planes to protect the airline passengers who don’t chose to be exposed to Ebola, and then they have to be quarantined at the cost of their sponsor or employers rather than at public cost. They want the personal glory of doing good and making money on media (and beefing up their resumes with Ebola) but with the public paying for it. Private gain at public cost is the progressive way. If they have to take out Ebola policies to cover their risk would be one way of making the costs real to them. Going to Ebola zones is risky behavior and nothing make that fact realer than making them assume the financial risks.

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      • arttart1983 says:

        boutis ~ Although I support your suggestion of policies but it has already been stated that if “the organizations won’t pay for the quarantine/possible hospitalization,” the US will pay for all of it. With DWB’s pleading for money, all they have to say is: “we don’t have the money to pay for hospitalizations/quarantines” & the taxpayers have to suck it up.

        I’m pretty sure Samaritans Purse didn’t pay for Writebol/Dr. Brantly, IDK. Who will pay for Dr. Spencer, it’s likely DWB’s will claim, “we don’t have any money.” The taxpayers paid for Thomas E. Duncan. Presbyterian Hospital will likely pay for Nurse Vinson/Nurse Pham.

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  8. libby says:

    There would be no panic if the government would employ ordinary infectious disease prevention in place like visa bans (for which essential travel shall remain while the unecessary travel can be delayed until the contagion is contained.
    Stupid whiney doctors i cant stand.
    Uber stupid uralinalists piss me off to no end (they never report a single researcher in favor of visa bans, only the commie progs contrary to all historic response to unknown contagion).
    “Adam Kamradt-Scott, a senior lecturer at the University of Sydney’s Marie Bashir Institute for Infectious Diseases and Biosecurity, said the ban would do nothing to protect the country from Ebola while potentially having a negative public health impact by unduly raising fears and creating a general climate of panic.”

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  9. libby says:

    Well, so happy to know we have a choir that our messiah can preach to.
    Ow wow, science is now a popularity contest in which less popular, but scientifically valid arguments are uttrly avoided just like with global alarmism about a climate that has never been the same.
    To put forth a balanced article one needs voices from more than just the talking points from the white hut and everyone who jumps up the butt of the fella in da white hut

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    • 7delta says:

      Libby, I was just thinking the same thing. Science has become a democracy/tyranny. It no longer has any need of legitimate scientific method or debate. It’s what they say it is. They’ll trot out only the ‘experts’ who agree with them and ridicule anyone who dares question as being unscientific or fear mongers. Considering the scientific standards of public health that work and have always worked, I’d say their stance on this is pretty telling about where they are on the science v. agenda scale.

      And I still say the most logical approach to quarantine is on the other side, but it’s of little value as long as anyone is allowed to continue to come here on commercial flights without being quarantined.

      To offer financial help for the medical personnel during the quarantine, DWOB or Samaritan’s Purse could set up a fund that every penny donated will go to pay salaries during the 3 weeks they’re quarantined. Appeal to doctors, nurses, churches and organizations…anybody who wants to help and show their appreciation.

      This isn’t brain surgery, but it does require common sense and an agenda that’s actually about public health, here and abroad.

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  10. libby says:

    I am willing to face one of the world’s most dangerous epidemics to help save those too stupid or lazy to help themselves, but not if i dont get a chance to try and infect my own countrymen upon my return

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  11. libby says:

    Heck, if the UN and medical charities are willing to make policy then I guess there is little need for executive leadership.
    Those leading public health experts – the ones in favor of spreading not fully understood diseases – have they been elected to executive national leadership positions or are they merely giving advice?
    Any leading medical professionals have advice contrary to the choir of progtard scientists?

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  12. libby says:

    I was gonna volunteer to go help dem helpless in W. Africa, but then I found out dey wasnt gonna let me run around and infect people willy nilly on my return so i said fagetaboutit

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  13. pspinach says:

    Prevention is the Best Medicine. Barry KNOWS this. Everyone except a child would know this.

    What’s up with Nurse Hatchet’s Linkin profile being deleted? As part of the CDC EIS program, she was entrusted to study and prevent populations from disease. The E in EIS stands for Epidemic Intelligence Service. She’s either a lowly nursing assistant (not a real nurse) or a plug for Barry’s agenda to stop quarantining and to help spread disease…….because no qualified nurse with good intent would be this stupid and immoral to risk infecting others.

    I call it.


    Was Nurse Hickox’s quarantine staged as a P.R. stunt to invoke opposition to state quarantines?
    The timing of Hickox’s quarantine, her ties with the party in power at the White House, the deliberate hiding of her ties to the CDC and the scrubbing of her LinkedIn.com profile all raise legitimate suspicion that her quarantine complaints have all been staged as a P.R. stunt to promote opposition to state-level Ebola quarantine efforts.

    President Obama is already pressuring the Governors of NJ, NY and IL to reverse their quarantine protocols. “The Obama administration has expressed deep concerns to the governors of New York and New Jersey and is consulting with them to modify their orders to quarantine medical volunteers returning from West Africa,” reports the NY Times. [3]

    Placing a very vocal nurse in quarantine and encouraging her to complain about civil rights violations — all while arranging a mass media carpet bombing of the public with those complaints — seems far too convenient to be a coincidence. From the very start, almost every single story the public has been allowed to see on Ebola has been contrived, engineered or distorted for either political or profiteering purposes. It is difficult to believe that this quarantine outrage just happened to coincide with President Obama’s attempts to have the quarantines closed down.

    For an example of the kind of obfuscation and fact-burying efforts being pursued by some factions of the government, watch this exasperating video where Rep. Massie tries to get a straight answer about Ebola transmission via contaminated surfaces. [5]

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/047406_Ebola_quarantines_New_Jersey_CDC.html#ixzz3HRfXu3Of

    Anyone even Romney would have been ten times better than Jihadist Barry as prez. Please do not make the same mistake again choosing suicide rather than vote the lesser of evil. Fighting one enemy provides a better chance of success than fighting two enemies. Attack from all sides, from all states the Goliath. Neutralize Democrats first. Every situation is different. There is a time and place for the final battle but we are far from it with Democrats in power.

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  14. Centinel2012 says:

    Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:
    Hey they didn’t get the word — Obama better call and straighten them out — NO QUARANTINES!

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  15. Brett says:

    Now if they would just free up their persoonal gun ownership laws, I would take my family and move there…

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  16. sangell51 says:

    Australian takes it international responsibilities seriously. One has only to look at the enormous effort they have put into the search for the missing Malaysian airliner believed to have gone down somewhere in the Southern Indian Ocean. That is their area of responsibility. Why Australia should send medical teams into West Africa is not at all apparent. The “We Are The World” mentality may make some feel good but when it runs up against local ignorance, incompetent government and a deadly virus the limitations of outside intervention soon become obvious. Sending health care workers into an area where local customs, ignorance and tenuous civil authority make disease control problematic is probably futile when you are trying to control a virus. You only endanger your own people and run the risk of spreading the disease into new areas.

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    • arttart1983 says:

      sangell51 ~ Australia isn’t sending medical teams as they have clearly stated, BUT, they have offered up a 2 million dollar donation to the 3 Hot Spots for needed supplies. I agree, they “take their international responsibilities seriously,” they could have offered nothing at all, they chose to participate monetarily which is generous.

      Just look at the Carnival Cruise ship that was turned away from several ports, imo, most want to come to the US anyway for free treatment/serum, we have open borders & they’re likely to remain open as long as Obama is is office.

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  17. sangell51 says:

    Curious ‘meme’ from the media today re: ebola

    Item: Huge drop in Ebola bodies across Liberian capital: Red Cross
    Item: Top UN Ebola official: new cases poorly tracked

    Both stories seek to cast doubt on the previous ‘apocalyptic’ ebola estimates put out be WHO and others involved in responding to the outbreak in West Africa. Now why would the media be trying to do that? US election next week or something else or some combination of factors.

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  18. whodoneit says:

    Can you believe the nonsense coming out of these people’s mouths? Adam Kamradt-Scott says Australia’s ban will do nothing to protect the country, and will cause a panic. Say what? Uh – not letting possibly infected West Africans into the country “will” protect citizens against Ebola. Hello! And exactly why will this ban protection cause Australians to “panic”? What kind of totally asinine statement is that? And Anthony Banbury (head of UNMEER) says anything that will dissuade foreign aid workers from coming to West Africa to “fight the fight” would be very unfortunate. Okay – therefore lets play the whole thing down, don’t “bother” anyone with this silly quarantine stuff and lets all take ridiculous risks as not to “deter” anybody from going to that God forsaken area. Do these people even realize what they’re saying?

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  19. zephyrbreeze says:

    Has anyone figured out the real motive that Obama and others are rolling out the red carpet with visas galore for people from West Africa? So how would Ebola then make it into the country if all visas were restricted from West Africa? This is gaslighting. Making completely nonsensical arguments and then pretending that everyone understands and agrees. Why does Barry think it’s OK that the doctor came down with ebola and now the bowling alley is worried about going bankrupt, and his girlfriend could be coming down with the same fatal disease? How is this worth the risk? Hard to understand what their real issue is, and why they are freaking out over quarantines. Even our astronauts are quarantined when they come back from space. No one says, oh, we won’t have people willing to go into space. Something is very weird.

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  20. Charlotte says:

    I read up on this-Abbott says Australia is too far away -a trip would take at least 30 hrs–Australia to Europe which is at least 22 hours First from Australia via Hong Kong/Bangkok/Singpore etc then to Europe, then to W Africa. Going there isn’t a problem but lets say someone gets infected and has to return to Australia. They could not come back on a passenger plane, and so a private Boeing/Airbus would have to be used for the 30 hr trip with 3 stopovers, since the US and EU have not offered to treat any Ebola infected Australian aid workers. A smaller jet would not have the flying range and would have to make more refuelling stops (and some countries may not allow an Ebola plane to land) As you can see the logistics of sending aid workers there are just too difficult and onerous. I agree. Australia has a population of only 23.5m and as someone already stated, has spent a lot of time paying for the search of that Malaysian plane.

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