British Prime Minister David Cameron Confronts Authentic Islam…

Last night British Prime Minister David Cameron delivered a stark and bold message to the people of Great Britain. ISIS represents a political ideology born in the space of non-governance, and fueled amid a raging ideology, that must be confronted and destroyed.

There is little nuance within his message. Two video’s – the first is the context of his position; the second is the expanded version to include questions and expanded explanations.

If you have enough time, watch the second video. If not, watch the shorter first one:

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92 Responses to British Prime Minister David Cameron Confronts Authentic Islam…

  1. georgiafl says:

    Must be hard for Britain liberals to come out of denial and realize that despite their open arms, socialism and free gifts (housing, medical care, etc.) to Islamic immigrants, their country haa become the major breeding ground for terrorists.

    Same here in the USA.

    Greg Gutfeld to Alan Colmes: “Why is it that lefties like you […] have a hard time identifying actual existential evil unless it’s a Republican or a stay-at-home mom where you can condemn them?” … “What it is about the ISIS threat that is being overstated.”

    Colmes replied, “ISIS couldn’t beat the Kurds in northern Iraq or the Shiites in southern Iraq.”… “ISIS threat is being “ginned up” for American involvement.”

    “I guess what it is is they’re not reaching the Colmes level of barbarism. They’re just not vicious enough for you. What do you want, more genocide?” Gutfeld quipped.
    http://weaselzippers.us/198053-clueless-lib-alan-colmes-isis-not-a-threat-to-america/

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  2. John Galt says:

    @ 15:30 “the poisonous narrative of Islamistic extremism”

    @ 15:45 “the Islamist extremist agenda”

    i.e. Islam according to the Quran, which a competent journalist could have brought to light with a few pertinent questions. He’s still trying to pretend that “extremist” Islam ideology is something other than authentic Islam ideology.

    Mr. Cameron, can you please list with specificity the unacceptable tenants of the “extremist” Islam of which you speak? If he plays hard to get, just break it down, by asking separately about the tenants of Sharia Law. When he finishes answering those questions, he will of course have identified Islam as practiced in all Islamic countries as unacceptable to a free society.

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    • georgiafl says:

      ISIS is nothing new in Islam.
      ISIS type movements have occurred throughout Islam’s sordid, violent, bloody history: http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2014/08/what-is-wrong-with-isis-is-what-is.html
      Islam is one long murderous sociopathic rage.

      This site has kept up with the documented 23,723 jihad attacks committed by Islamists since 9/11/01: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com. That doesn’t count the rapes, honor killings, slavery, drug and porn trafficking, beatings of Jews, etc.

      Wherever Islam spreads, there is trouble and suffering.

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      • canadacan says:

        Islam is anathema to all civilized people.
        The 12th ,13th and 14th century Crusaders weren’t perfect people but they had it right.
        Going on a crusade was on the Black Douglas “bucket list”in the14th century.
        He had been with Robert Bruce at Bannockburn and now he needed to do one last thing after Bruce had died.
        Bruce had always wanted to go on a Crusade so he took Bruce’s embalmed
        heart with him.He died fighting in the Middle East ,Fox News wasn’t there but one of my ancestors were.
        Sometimes you have to fight evil the old
        fashioned way

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        • doodahdaze says:

          The correct policy would be a formal War Declaration by the Congress, then total obliteration. Rules of Engagement. Kill the enemy by any means possible.

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        • Pam says:

          I think when we stopped fighting evil the old-fashioned way, we started suiciding ourselves….death by ten million paper cuts.
          Now a whole lot of people in the “civilized” world have a terribly difficult time even identifying “evil”. “Evil” is a way too nasty concept for them to wrap their minds around. Tolerance, anything and everything goes, everything is shades of gray. God isn’t allowed, so what is evil? Right and wrong? Uhhhh…what?

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    • Daniel says:

      All Abrahamic religions when taken literally and to their extremes require horrible things including the death penalty for many things we commonly accept in society including not being a virgin and in some instances cursing. (I think lying politicians should be in the list) It is only when the brutal word of God is ignored that we have a peaceful and agreeable society.

      Islam is merely less evolved, not particularly “different” from Judaism and Christianity. And the difference is largely in how it is practiced. The more literally it is followed, the less civil it actually is. The deeper the belief, the more radicalized followers become.

      Let’s not delude ourselves into making exceptions for ourselves. If you are a kind, gentle, generous and forgiving person, it is not because of the core teachings of Abrahamic religion, but because that word of God has been in some way discarded.

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      • cohibadad says:

        It’s interesting Daniel, how people view Islam as different than Christianity and Judaism. Islam is the youngest. If you would go back 600 years, the difference in age between Christianity and Judaism, the Catholic Church was still 200 years away from publicly executing Giordano Bruno by splitting his tongue and burning him upside down in a public square after 7 years of torture and imprisonment for claiming that the Earth goes around the Sun, that there are multiple Suns and multiple Earths and life elsewhere in the universe. Can anyone claim that the Catholic Church stopped their brutal suppression of scientific knowledge and research for any reason other than it became impossible to save face and preserve its followers as the scientific knowledge trumped the Church’s “religious knowledge”. That is, the Church’s fraudulent claim that they knew more about the world due to their “legitimate” position as the representatives of God on Earth? Disproved by science. We see this today with the backward bearded muslim apes who continue to claim that the Sun goes around the Earth because their “religious knowledge” trumps satellite imagery, scientific research, and experimental evidence. So Christianity was neutered by science and relegated to a tame role of “religious” advisers long ago and most Jewish people I know aren’t the most the most “religious”.

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        • stella says:

          The Catholic practices during the inquisition are not examples of Christianity, but sins as defined in the Bible. There have always been those within the organizations of “churches”, who do not follow Christian teachings, but make up their own as they go along.

          True Christianity is a religion of peace and has always been so since the beginning, as outlined in scripture. Do not take the deeds of men and use them to define religion.

          Evil in the name of science is also well known. Racial and genetic purity as defined by the Nazis is just one example.

          ADD: Another good example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

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          • Pam says:

            Let’s don’t leave out the Protestants who did their own share of killing Catholics, ok?

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            • stella says:

              Nobody leaving anything out, Pam. I was answering the comment, which talked about the Catholic church. And I was talking about Christianity in general in my comments. Read again.

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          • hoosiergranny says:

            Well said, Stella.

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          • cohibadad says:

            I agree Stella. Don’t judge a religion by the deeds of men. But in the case of Islam that is exactly what is done repeatedly. The commonality is that in all cases it is men interpreting the religious books according to their fallible opinions that leads them to do horrific deeds in the name of God. I used the Catholic example because it is the only church (although orthodox might make a similar claim) that they are the only legitimate Christian Church and that the Pope is the representative (vicegerent) of God on Earth.

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            • stella says:

              Except that the Catholics haven’t tortured or executed heretics for many centuries now. We are dealing with followers of Islam who are, today, doing just those things, in the name of Islam. It is their interpretation, not mine. We are concerned with the men who do these things. Good men who follow Islamic teachings should be speaking loudly about those who misuse their religion. I’m not hearing much of that. If we did hear more of that, you wouldn’t hear as much judging of the religion.

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              • cohibadad says:

                I guess I would point out that this was the actual Catholic Church that tortured and killed and oppressed. What we are seeing the Muslims do today has no global authority for Muslims. Unfortunately, that is what they are trying to establish with their “Islamic State”, their “Islamic” equivalent of the vatican. I wish more muslims would speak out about what we see ISIS doing, etc., and I hold them completely responsible for not doing so. I think there are a couple of main reasons for why we don’t hear it. First, I think most muslims are muslim in name only. They aren’t in a position to know or say anything, especially about something happening on the other side of the world. But there are plenty of muslim leaders who choose not to say anything as well. Most of them in the United States are foreigners paid to lead prayers and services at mosques. And we should keep in mind that ISIS is Sunni as are almost all the muslims in the US and worldwide. I have heard some denounce ISIS, but very few. And none of the denunciations have been backed by a clear explanation of how ideologically ISIS is mistaken or deviant. I don’t think Sunni muslims can show oppose ISIS because ISIS is simply doing what Sunni muslims believe. That is why the Sunnis in the areas ISIS has taken over cooperate with them or join them. Shias are fundamentally opposed to ISIS because the idea of naming your own Caliph is totally a Sunni thing. Shias believe that only God names the Caliph and the best they can do is have what is essentially a “steward” waiting to turn over power to him when he appears, which is what Iran claims.

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                • maryfrommarin says:

                  You–and Daniel–seem to be straining at the gnat while swallowing the camel.

                  Big mistake.

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                • Daniel says:

                  My point, if I may be so concise, is that the further away from a strict following (i.e. ignoring, disregarding or discarding) the word of god, the more “civilized” and peaceful the people become. The words of the Abrahamic religions are all pretty bad in some areas and if it weren’t for national law to the contrary (or maybe not since the bible and other books clearly state that there is no higher authority than the word of God or his appointed) people would be killing each other for some pretty ridiculous things if they were to follow the word of God.

                  Please tell me I’m wrong about that and if so, where am I wrong? And I don’t speak only of one of the three, but all.

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        • bogey says:

          Bruno did a bit more than disagree on scientific knowledge. He wasn’t a scientis anyway.

          What got him killed was his theology and heresy.

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          • cohibadad says:

            Bruno wasn’t a scientist, but more of a philosopher. His heresy was to disagree with the Church. He didn’t have experimental evidence to back his claims and the Church killed him. But then Galileo came and backed up the claim of Earth orbiting the Sun with scientific evidence for which his books were banned and he was imprisoned in his home until his death. The Church acquitted him 400 years later. What was his crime?

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        • nyetneetot says:

          SMH – I think you’re missing some thoughts to think with. Coincidence? Dismissed as chance.

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      • stella says:

        The fact is that Jews and Christians do not behead, perform honor killings, foster suicide bombers, etc. Christianity, in fact, turned away from the old ways entirely, as borne out by scripture. All humans – abrahamic or not – have evil in their souls and are capable of horrific deeds against fellow humans. Study the history of Japan and China for examples.

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      • M Teresa says:

        Daniel, you are sadly misguided. One only need look at Marxist-Leninist societies (see USSR under Joseph Stalin, and China under Mao just to name a few) who introduced state atheism. Millions of people annihilated. I hardly think that life is better for people under those ideals.

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        • Daniel says:

          How does “look at these other people” invalidate my statement? I was not drawing any such comparison and therefore your statement counters nothing.

          Concisely, the more the religious disregard the word of God, the more civil and peaceful they become.

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      • joanfoster says:

        Interesting perspective; however, Christianity operates under the principles of the new covenant which was brought to humanity via Jesus Christ.

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        • stella says:

          Thanks for that, joanfoster!

          “‘The day will come,’ says the Lord, ‘when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and Judah. . . . But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel on that day,’ says the Lord. ‘I will put my law in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people'” (Jeremiah 31:31, 33). Jesus Christ came to fulfill the law of Moses (Matthew 5:17) and create a new covenant between God and His people. The old covenant was written in stone, but the new covenant is written on our hearts, made possible only by faith in Christ, who shed His own blood to atone for the sins of the world. Luke 22:20 says, “After supper, [Jesus] took another cup of wine and said, ‘This wine is the token of God’s new covenant to save you – an agreement sealed with the blood I will pour out for you.'”

          Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/new-covenant.html#ixzz3Bt1mvrcI

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      • georgiafl says:

        ISLAM IS NOT AN ABRAHAMIC RELIGION – it is a counterfeit of Judaism and Christianity mixed with the religion of the Caananites, Assyrians, Babylonians, etc.

        Mohammedanism is proud Mohammed’s rejection of both the Faiths of Judaism and Christianity. He believed he was qualified to make up his own self-centered, self-aggrandizing religion. Childhood rejection and trauma + megalomania + narcissism + sociopathology + syphilis + seizures = Mohammedanism

        Luke 3:7 “John said to the crowds coming out to be baptized by him, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 9 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.”

        John 8: 39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.
        “If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would[c] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”
        “We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”
        42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

        Islam does not do the works of Abraham, nor does it have the faith of Abraham, believing in the Messiah, The LORD Jesus Christ.

        Islam is the opposite of Judaism and Christianity. It is a work of the fallen flesh and mind of Mohammed and his successors. It is a conditioned (trained) institutionalized spiritual, emotional and cognitive pathological disease.

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      • Havegunwilltravel says:

        “…only when the brutal word of God is ignored that we have a peaceful and agreeable society”. Just like North Korea, comrade? I hear it’s a peaceful workers paradise there. Just like those other model societies who cared so much for the people were so effective at ignoring God – the soviet union, Mao china, Cambodia, etc. etc.

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        • joanfoster says:

          Exactly! Evil and Godliness cannot coexist because evil cannot bear to have the light of truth nor the conviction of God brought to bear upon it.

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      • John Galt says:

        “Islam is merely less evolved, not particularly “different” from Judaism and Christianity.”

        Due to the lower mean IQ of mideast adherents of Islam and the idiotic interventions by Obama, Islamic countries are actually devolving away from civilization in the mideast. Secular dictators standing on the necks of islamists in Libya, Iraq and Syria was actually a more evolved society.

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        • cohibadad says:

          “Secular dictators standing on the necks of islamists in Libya, Iraq and Syria was actually a more evolved society.”

          Can’t disagree with that.

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      • Spar Harmon says:

        No, Daniel, to the extent I exhibit the qualities you name they were fostered in me by the One who came into my life and saved it :: He exhibited those qualities and more.
        Your arguments on the other hand seem borrowed from Christopher Hitchen’s old playbook when he had his atheist traveling roadshow debating religionists of all stripes. Are you a ‘rational humanist and atheist’ a la Hitchen’s? I’ve really enjoyed looking up those old debates, though some were just screamingly funny like the one between CH in this corner and The Reverend Al Sharpton in the other; as a precaution against hernia I would suggest an abdominal truss…
        God bless, friend — — —

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  3. Old Hillbilly says:

    If Cameron wants to truly begin dealing with ISIS he needs to start in places like Rotherham England, where followers of the “religion of pieces” have been systematically raping the local English schoolgirls with the FULL KNOWLEGE of the local authorities and the chickensh*t fear of being called “islamophobic” givin as the reason for non-action!

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  4. cohibadad says:

    I watched Cameron’s speech and loved it. It’s great to hear him start to take this problem seriously. I think by “authentic” you mean Sunni, which is the only Islam most people are familiar with. But, as I’ve said many times, it’s rather sad to send the message to the 1.6B muslims in the world that “authentic” Islam is to murder, rape and pillage, so “if you haven’t joined ISIS yet, go ahead.” It’s sad enough that Sunni Islam taken to it’s inevitable conclusion will always lead to ISIS. Shia Islam taken to it’s conclusion leads to Iran, a bit less savage. Islam taken to it’s conclusion leads to a completely different place.

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    • maryfrommarin says:

      “Islam taken to it’s conclusion leads to a completely different place.”

      And where is that non-Sunni, non-Shia Islam practiced?

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  5. moehamhead says:

    isis
    impotant sissies imitating soldiers

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    • Pam says:

      I don’t think they can be characterized as “sissies.” And brutally slicing through the necks of people and marching others off into the desert then executing them by the hundreds at a time doesn’t strike me as an impotent act.

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    • georgiafl says:

      Insane Salacious Islamic Sociopaths

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    • Sharon says:

      namecalling isn’t a particularly potent defense against those who are cutting off peopple’s heads.

      The namecalling that seems to assert itself in these threads every time we get into deep water makes me think that somebody isn’t able to contribute meaningfully to the conversation but is nervous about the subject being discussed.

      Knock it off.

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      • Pam says:

        I’m sorry.

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      • georgiafl says:

        I respectfully disagree. Re-naming ISIS more appropriately is not name-calling, it is defining. Naming evil accurately is as important as discerning it.

        Woe to those like Cameron who try to hem, haw and hedge and refuse to recognize Islam for what it is, from its texts to its actions throughout the centuries.

        Woe to them that call evil good and good evil.

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        • Sharon says:

          I’m responding to a pattern that we have dealt with since CTH started in which the quality of conversation declines as the level of anxiety rises and sarcasm and name calling is substituted for serious discussion of the issue at hand. Islam-bashing does not promote good conversation.

          I am not hemming and hawing and hedging and refusing to recognize Islam for what it is, and any regular reader of CTH knows that in spades.

          Part of my task here as admin is to attempt to offset the things that derail a discussion.

          It’s important that we define evil. It’s also important that we don’t presumptuously slip into mockery of evil. The book of Jude specifically warns against that behavior.

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      • Nazi was name calling. It’s Bavarian for Peasant Simpleton. Ignatz.

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  6. Rondo says:

    The problem of radical Islam is the problem of Islam itself.

    Many are afraid that if Islam is the problem there can be no solution. That terrifies them. So they do all they can to avoid engaging with the evidence that Islam is the problem.

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    • Xballer52 says:

      Would have been nice if Prime Minister Cameron had properly identified the problem before it had infected his nation. Not much they can do about it now…..the cancer has masticized and is beyond being fixable.

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      • John Galt says:

        Islam in the mideast can be fixed, but it would take ruthless determination, similar to what happened in South Vietnam circa 1976.

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        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          I believe you are correct about what the required solution might be, and the prospect of it is totally distasteful to anyone. One would think that a viable alternative would be to cede them an area where they could live among no one but themselves. But history has shown this is an arrangement that they simply cannot honor.

          It is now, and always has been, the goal of Islam to expand until all around them are converted to their ideology, or put to the sword, which is contrary to their own claim of being a “Religion of Peace”.

          That is the reason I fear and despise them. Not because of their convoluted dogma, or their barbaric Sharia, but because of their sworn unwillingness to “Live and Let Live” and their desire to impose both of those things on every living person.

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      • Well it can. It just requires a blood letting and the averse eyes of Americans, French and Germans. Then it’s all done and dusted.

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    • georgiafl says:

      The solution is outlined in the Bible in Isaiah:
      Isaiah 10:5 – Assyria (Islam, Babylon, Egypt, et al) is the rod of discipline in GOD’s hand. Whenever Israel fell into sin, they would be attacked or captured by a heathen nation.
      Isaiah 26:3 – GOD will keep you in peace if you keep your heart and mind aligned with and anchored on Him.
      Isaiah 30:15 – In repentance and rest is our salvation…
      Isaiah 31:8-9 – The sword of man cannot defeat Islam/Assyria, only the Sword of the LORD – the Word of GOD.

      II Chronicles 7:24 – “If my people who are called by My Name will humble themselves, seek My Face, turn from their wicked ways, I will hear and heal their land.”

      We have laws that would allow us to break all of GOD’s Commandments and some that would force us to do so. Abortion, the shedding of innocent blood, is abhorrent to GOD.
      So is sexual promiscuity and perversion, because of its consequences.
      Obedience is necessary for strength and blessing.

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      • georgiafl says:

        Many are coming to Christ in Islamic countries.
        “Where sin abounds, grace abounds moreso.” – Romans 5:20
        Great Britain and the Western nations are due for another Great Revival.

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      • Pam says:

        I totally agree with this.
        Remember Nineveh?
        For over 20 years, I have been hearing Christians who love the Lord quote that II Chronicles verse in relation to our country. After all those years, as I see what we have in this country today, I have come to the conclusion that it wasn’t enough for those Christians to invoke that verse in prayer. I think they believed that their use of the verse would move the hand of God.
        However, when I consider the entire country and its people, are we as a nation, in our majority national identity, now people called by His Name? Have we as a nation humbled ourselves, sought His Face and turned from wicked ways?
        We cannot define God. We do use words to identify some of His aspects.
        One aspect is Mercy. Another is Justice.

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    • Daniel says:

      Religion formed by a warlord. Who would have thought?

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  7. mary says:

    So are we to assume that the Brits are going to take the war to ISIS…shedding blood and treasure…or are they just trying to gin up the USA to shoulder the burden once again?

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    • John Galt says:

      I think Cameron’s focus is travel restrictions and control of Islamic propaganda.

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        I noticed that, too, and thought about it from the perspective of the average citizen of the UK, who will now face added restrictions on travel, and additional concerns over what they say or do. In a sense, Cameron’s proposed reaction is yet another victory for those who would restrain freedom and limit speech. Another “Win” for the radicals he wants to restrict.

        Those forces, the Islamic 5th column that works from within, will remain embedded in their society and government, and will continue to erode the foundations of each. And (should they ever gain control) Cameron’s “measures” will be used against the very people he now seeks to protect. There’s a sad irony hidden there, among his otherwise well-intended speech.

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  8. Rubrail says:

    In Indy Car and NASCAR racing, the flagman will use the “move over” flag to signal a driver that there is a faster car approaching that needs to pass. This is done to prevent hazardous congestion. I think that ‘golfcart one’ just got the “move over” flag.

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  9. Talal Itani says:

    It is easy to find out.
    Quran in english is at http://www.clearquran.com
    Go to the source

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  10. czarowniczy says:

    I believe there’s an adverb missing in the title, as in: …’openly’ confronting…’. I remember a few months after the post-911 invasion of Afghanistan when Brit intel types were taking stock of the foreign fighters captured in Afghanistan, commenting on the Brit citizens captured there. One said there were entire small villages in the western area of Britain that had been taken over almost exclusively by Muslims who were giving the non-Muslim (especially Christian) residents royal hell. The ‘internment’ camps the Brits had built post 911 to house the influx of illegal Muslim immigrants flooding the country, the laws designed to make hate speech almost wipe out free speech – all those little things that bob up above the surface and are quickly pushed back down. Might as well have that frank discussion about the lion that’s eating you before it devours you completely. I’ll believe they’re serious about Britain’s Islamic issues when the government stops trying to make the BNP illegal.

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    • canadacan says:

      There was a street corner agitator nea seer where I work.This happened today ,young man in his very early twenties.
      Promoting Islamic Jihad but quoting heavily from the Old Testament to show how erudite he is.
      I was on break and at the service station fighting with the oil cap on my car.
      I Hot footed it over to him to say a few pithy remarks not realizing I had a wrench tucked under my arm.
      Noticed a state trooper parked at the bank observing him.He stayed put for quite a while
      .I spoke with the state trooper but he said there wasn’t anything he could do at the moment because of First Amendment rights.
      I passed by the agitator on my way to my car and gave him a” love it or leave it speech”.

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    • canadacan says:

      Czar, that reminds me of Stanley Holloway’s
      one man skit “Mother the Lion’s eaten Alfred”.
      It has to be done with a laid-back North Country English accent.

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    • The puppet masters in the UK won’t stop outlawing the Fascists and BNP types that might do the dirty work.

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  11. mike cdiamond says:

    david cameron seems so much more normal and sounds so much more straight forward than prez bho! i miss president reagan,bush and even richard nixon

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Well, that’s a disgusting thought. Nixon is so much more honest, straightforward, transparent, and trustworthy than Obama.

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  12. Be Ge says:

    …are the Brits waking up? Not really. Googling for “rotherham scandal” and “arrests” results only in few rapists being arrested and sentenced. It is not even all the rapists. There is no punishment for the authorities who hid the epidemics of Pakis raping English/Irish/Scottish girls out of fear of being labeled racist.

    We aren’t very different. We all remember Trayvon Martin, who should’ve been sitting behind bars that night — for many reasons, including his own (not that anyone cares about that matter, though) safety. How did it happen — well, fear of and resistance to…em… racism…One dead human being and one permanently injured (psychologically) is the outcome we know of, but what is it that we don’t?

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    • Spar Harmon says:

      In Ferguson we have an epiphanic outcome cum re-enactment, Be Ge, — the snake grows to end up consuming its tail.
      It saddens me that in considering matters tonight, we seem to be unable to differentiate between all these manifestations of the universal evil of ideology, secular and religious, and the personal testimony of our own individual struggles to seek and know truth and live in the light of what we find. Do we really think ours is the only authentic experience of God?? Is our God so small as to be understood by any of us?? For many years I have absorbed religious and secular history, cultural and language history, the history of my country and my family, in the pursuit of a Truth that stands clean and pure and marries me and my life with that of my species on this particular speck in the vastness of Creation. I sought a keystone on which to found a working, righteous life with the guidance of What made me and placed me and now sits me at this keyboard and bids me write.
      There have been strong voices raised tonight, but largely weakened by ignoring one of Jesus’s pieces of advice. Maybe some of you will find it apropos :: Resist not evil…BUT… Seek to do that which is good. In the everyday conduct of my life, nearly every crux of uncertainty is around the right use of my will. I have nearly died of consequences of mistaken use of my “free” will; that is not an exaggeration, but a flat statement of fact. When I reached out for the intervention whatever power “God” is meant to signify, I received a clear, gentle, compassionate, comprehensive, reason-swamping, and soul restoring answer and a new life began for me. I am empowered. I know that that power, THE HOLY ONE, steps into and transforms and guides the life of Any Person who humbly opens the door and asks Him in. Scripture gives us, who have received this gift, rich guidance. Some find support and strength in the congregations of institutional religion, though such institutions are manifestly not immune to being out of tune with Holy Reality. Holy Reality is what it is and is not containable in human understanding. Personally I stand with Quakers and such like, who pour heart and soul into loving The Father and learning to walk as a child of our Father, guided by our Father, and loving my brothers and sisters in our Father. Never have I known such Power, Freedom, Light, and Joy as this…
      I know that if I am to have a role to play in the travesty of lives brewing in MO, or ISIS, or the border, it will be put right in my lap; I don’t have to make it up. Everything I am empowered to do is right in front of me and I pray for the power to do my Father’s will. When I read these threads, I am made aware of the immense suffering caused by the perverse will’s of ideologues run riot, they will reap their own consequences and I pray for their victims. I will bear witness to the evil humans do. I have done my share, too. The carnage of human sin is great. I pray for our deliverance from evil to the only Power that can deliver. I offer myself to God’s use. That is what I can do. That is what I do. Join with me anyone?

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    • England needs an exterminating angel to purge the migrants (if you speak Arab you will know that is what the early Muslims called their conquerors).

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  13. Murse says:

    The Brits, like the American Left, can’t seem to understand that there is one Islam, not a large moderate contingent co-existing among a smaller group of jihads. Look at the so called moderates in England who are raping European women left and right. Read the Sultan of Knish’s essays for they are, in my estimation, right on target. Islam is a 1000 + year old playbook justifying theft, rape, murder, and jihad. And this is why the so called moderate Muslims never publicly condemn Islamic terrorism.

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  14. Cameron won’t do a thing to halt or reverse Islamic migration.

    England needs a Cromwell to kill them.

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