The Mysterious Mike Brown Autopsy – And How The Parks and Crump “Scheme Team” Used Their New York Times Cohort Frances Robles To Sell The Lie…

Major Hat Tip to Treeper Nivico who finds the familiar pattern and connects the dots.

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The Brown Family attorney’s Benjamin Crump and Daryl Parks are now claiming Mike Brown was “executed” by Officer Wilson to CNN:

(Via CNN)  We are getting a new description of the shooting of Michael Brown from a woman calling herself “Josie” and claiming to be a friend of the police officer who fired the fatal shots. She describes Brown pushing officer Darren Wilson and punching him in the face. That contradicts the account given by Michael Brown’s friend Dorian Johnson, who was with him at the time and witnessed the shooting.

Attorney Benjamin Crump is representing the Brown family. He spoke to Anderson and described the shooting as an execution.  (link)

To support their “execution” claim, they are pointing to “their autopsy” given to the New York Times.

You’ve seen the story of the Mike Brown family autopsy, and the grand press conference they produced to deliver it to the public.   But a closer look points out why the Scheme Team actually used New York Times Frances Robles to deliver the ruse:

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Frances Robles - legal collectionFERGUSON, Mo. — Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found.

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said. 

[…]  Prof. Shawn L. Parcells, a pathologist assistant based in Kansas, assisted Dr. Baden.

“You do this for the families,” Mr. Parcells said.

The two medical experts conducted the four-hour examination Sunday at the Austin A. Layne Mortuary in St. Louis. Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for Mr. Brown’s family who paid their travel expenses, hired them.  (link)

Reading this article by Frances Robles would give you the impression Dr. Michael M. Baden actually “conducted” the autopsy on 8/17/14.

Alas a review of the timeline shows a divergent reality.   The Scheme Team are up to their old tricks.

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1) Wed Aug 13 – Professor Parcells was contacted by attorney’ Benjamin Crump and Gray (allegedly just to assist Baden).  Parcells was on MSNBC’s The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell last night and stated he was contacted by attorneys Crump and Gray on Wednesday 8/13.

2) Fri Aug 15 – Daryl Parks gave a press conference sharing his disgust the Ferguson Police had release the strong arm robbery footage.   During the presser he told the media that their 2nd independent autopsy had already been performed (citation link)

Knowing they were going to bring in Dr. Baden, that’s why when questioned about the second autopsy Parks said:

…”it’s done, and we’ll talk about that later, we’re not answering any questions about the 2nd autopsy at this time; we will -in time- do that”….

3) Sun Aug 17 – According to the NYT Dr. Baden was flown in.

If Parcells was just supposed to be assisting Baden, why was Parks stating that the autopsy had already been performed two days before Baden was even flown in?

The actual truth appears to be – a rather controversial person Shawn Parcells, who is NOT a forensic pathologist, was used by the Scheme Team to conduct an autopsy – and then Professor Baden was brought in AFTER to meet with Parcells and give his OPINION of it.

In essence lend his credibility toward it.

Shawn Parcells is not a pathologist,  he is a voice for hire.  Here’s some articles on the lack of credentials for Parcells and the concerns therein:

“[…]  some coroners and medical examiners in Missouri say Parcells has inflated his qualifications and performed autopsies without a medical license. Others allege that doctors whose signatures were on some autopsy reports were not present at the autopsies, did not review the work or never actually signed the documents.”

“Police in Andrew County are looking into allegations that a pathologist Parcells listed on a 2012 autopsy was never consulted.”

“Shramek said he became alarmed when Parcells asked what to put down as the cause of death on an autopsy report instead of following the evidence.”

“Others, such as Dr. Mary Case, the medical examiner for St. Louis, St. Charles, Franklin and Jefferson counties, have been outspoken about the allegations against Parcells.

“It’s very bad for our state if there’s someone doing autopsies without a medical license,” she said. “This is a huge atrocity, an invitation to disaster, and it needs to stop.”   (link)

More HERE, and HERE, and HERE

The bottom line is that Dr. Michael M. Baden never performed an autopsy on Mike Brown.  Instead he signed off on an opinion of a forensic examination completed by a controversial Forensic Pathologist Assistant, who did an evaluation of Mike Brown’s body at the request of the Scheme Team.

Dr. Baden was flown in later to review the findings of the Forensic Pathologist Assistant, Shawn Parcells, and give it credibility in the eyes of a non-questioning media.

The Scheme Team then took Dr. Baden’s evaluation of the Shawn Parcell review, and handed it off to their New York Times friend and cohort, Frances Robles.  Selling it as if Dr. Baden had actually conducted the physical exam himself.

Frances worked with the Scheme Team in 2012 (2012 bio below) while she was at the Miami Herald and was part of their inner circle of media types willing to sell the Trayvon Story.   The Trayvon Martin Story was also full of similarly false and manufactured media evidence.

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The goal of the Scheme Team for the Mike Brown narrative is to emphasize how many times Mike Brown was shot and to outline a scenario where Mike Brown was shot “execution style” in the top of his head.

Knowing their pattern of media evidence the instructions to Ms. Robles were to emphasize the number of shots and head wounds.   In exchange for the “exclusive” she was more than happy to oblige:

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Full New York Times Article

Mike Brown autopsy

This is how the Daryl Parks and Benjamin Crump Scheme Team operate.     However, because we know what to look for, we are able to catch them in their shenanigans and manipulations.   Good catch Nivico….

*ADD*  We have contacted the New York Times and await their response.

Additionally, in the New York Times article today from Ms. Robles you’ll note she is in Ferguson Missouri; no doubt back into the relationship with Parks and Crump as a willing recipient to their “exclusive” releases.  Keep an eye on her reporting.

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418 Responses to The Mysterious Mike Brown Autopsy – And How The Parks and Crump “Scheme Team” Used Their New York Times Cohort Frances Robles To Sell The Lie…

  1. doodahdaze says:

    They are so sneaky it is amazing. They must be broke and in dire need of go away money to go so far as to “obstruct justice.” That is not a Bar violation but a crime. Whole lotta’ obstructin’ goin’ on around here. I hope a GJ is empaneled in the AM and gets a scent.

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  2. doodahdaze says:

    Nivico…attaboy baby way to go!!!

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  3. 2x4x8 says:

    Dr Baden was on Sean Hannity’s radio program and seem to have done the autopsy, Seann was going to have him back again soon

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Sean is clueless.

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      • Coast says:

        Plus he said the other day that he’s friends with Parks. In fact, close friends. How could anyone be friends with a liar like that?

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        • 2x4x8 says:

          Parks was on the show yesterday(?) i think or the day before, Fox News is part of the general public programing, or MSM, which is, they “report, you decide”, so those with strong ideological views both left and right have their own limited media outlets, when you are the largest, most watched news outlet, it shows that you are “inclusive” and can deal with the opposite side decently, which is why Obama sits down for an exclusive interview with Bill O’reilly, instead of say Matt Drudge

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    • barbie says:

      If this is the case, then Hannity and Greta and Megyn need to be contacted; they have interviewed Baden. Baden clearly gave the impression HIS autopsy concurred with ANOTHER autopsy. (I am sorry I cannot confirm who performed the autopsy he said his agreed with.)

      I don’t think Baden would purposefully suggest HE DID the autopsy if he hadn’t, but if so, he has to be confronted with this by those who already interviewed him.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        I agree. This bit of news needs to be on one of those shows. I’ll bet Baden wishes he hadn’t got involved or he will before it’s over.

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        • polk8dot says:

          I think Biden is truly getting senile. His speech is slurred more often than not, he stutters and mumbles like a dottard, forgets words and, more importantly, facts (isn’t it pathetic when you have to be reminded of the kill shot by some lackey behind you?). I doubt he is actually physically performing any autopsies anymore. He clearly lives for public adulation now and loves to be deferred to for his opinion. If you ever listen to him on the stand talk about his qualifications, it always ends up being an epistle of self-veneration and self-important gloating.
          He’s not hiring out his expertise and skill anymore ; now he is hiring out his reputation.
          I was watching him during the presser when the faux ME Purcell was constantly slapping Baden’s name on every ridiculous postulation they needed to advance the fake narrative. With each subsequent ‘dr. Baden and I think’, ‘dr. Baden and I agree’, Baden was looking more and more disgruntled and offended that he was not allowed to speak for himself anymore but needed some poseur lackey to do it for him.
          Well, selling yourself to the highest bidder can be a bit$# on one’s conscience. Or maybe he was just rethinking last evening’s brisket.

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      • 2x4x8 says:

        I did not think it matters much, the many reports will be rather similar on wounds and angles, it may be that the BGI is trying to slant “their” report to say that the kill shot to the top of the head was when Michael was down on the ground and Officer Wilson did a Coup de gras (execution) so the BGI autopsy may have been only to see if they could make that narrative fit the actual wound, since they already heard about the head wound from previous autopsies, and a simple non lethal graze to the head would not work for them

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      • kinthenorthwest says:

        I am worried about the validity of an autopsy after the body has been put in the hands of the funeral home, especially since the family might have had access to it too.
        .The first autopsy said 6th shot was forehead and now they are saying top of head…this is going to be a circus. However, if Johnson and the other youtube guy is the main witness their statements to other people are already full of holes..

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        • nivico says:

          “I am worried about the validity of an autopsy after the body has been put in the hands of the funeral home…”

          Speaking of Crump and botched funeral home autopsies… did they ever determine who discarded the viscera in the Kendrick Johnson case?

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Look. The newz…all newz. Is produced and directed. Note the little plugs in their ears. That is the pipeline to the producer. They all have teleprompters like Obama that they read from. The camera is behind it and shoots through it but the paid pundit can see the script. On panels each paid pundit may have their own camera behind a teleprompter. It is all in a “set” like a movie set. The same big advertisers may be seen during the commercials on all the shows. It is not fishy. It is a “show”

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      • Crystal says:

        I heard the Baden interview with Sean and wondered why he was a little vague here and there. I’m not a pathologist (nor do I pretend to be one) so I don’t know if Baden was actually speaking from his own personal experience in examining Brown’s body, or he had signed off on someone else’s findings. But I agree that Greta, Megyn and Sean need to know about this.

        The Feds will bring in their own pathologist who will deliver whatever findings the Feds want and then bury the remains, possibly cremate them.

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    • stella says:

      I heard the radio interview today, too. Dr. Baden said that he conducted the autopsy. I heard him say that one time before, as well – said that the autopsy was conducted in a funeral home after the body had been embalmed, and that the clothing was not available for examination.

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    • Julie says:

      I believe Megyn Kelly did an interview with him too !

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  4. Elspeth says:

    Brilliant!

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  5. Coast says:

    There are no clear defined qualifications as to who can do an autopsy…and the county/state can allow “just anyone” to do their own medical examination?

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    • hoosiergranny says:

      You must be a physician to do an autopsy, at least in Missouri. Even a non-credentialed person can “assist” but that does not mean do the autopsy without the physician in the room. For a physician to sign off on an autopsy they did not attend is unethical.

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    • arttart1983 says:

      Coast ~ You’re answer is Coroner’s offices define who does autopsies, they are done by Medical Dr.’s! Although families have the legal right to have a second, or in this case, a 3rd autopsy done, it is performed by Physicians. While it is acceptable to for the Medical Dr.’s office to have an assistant, they are NOT qualified to do the autopsy, make medical decisions, nor conclusions, that is done by a medical doctor.

      My deceased husband was a Deputy Coroner as well as Medical Director of 2 different treatment facilities. While the Coroner’s offices employ many that are NOT Doctors, such as assistants used for various reasons, or a few nurses, there is absolutely no reason for a NON Medical Dr. to perform an autopsy, ever, especially in a high profile case. Assistants many times meet w/families on notification of deaths or identifying loved ones.

      This assistant might have done the autopsy, but not legally, as it will be challenged as it has already raised concerns. Dr. Baden would have been considered the person that did the Autopsy, made the professional decisions as to cause of death etc., not an assistant. The assistant might have weighed the heart/liver/organs, took pictures of the wounds, drew blood, etc., but it is Dr. Baden that would make the decisions as to the cause of death. imo, to speed up the process for Dr. Baden wh was probably NOT available until Sunday, Crump/Parks hired the assistant to do the grunt work for Dr. Baden such as weighing organs, etc. to save time for Dr. Baden.

      Dr. Baden stated they didn’t have the clothing to compare to the wounds, LE had the clothing. imo, Dr. Baden’s autopsy likely won’t be that important except to Crump/Family, it will be the 1st autopsy done by the city/county & the DOJ’s autopsy imo, that will carry the most weight.

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  6. kinthenorthwest says:

    OK my theory is this(I am not a professional, but it makes a lot of sense).
    I do have a feeling that due to Brown’s size that the first ones didn’t really even phase him. (Remember the guy in that one video said something about the officer must have missed cause Brown kept on charging).
    The fifth probably made him falter and start falling, which is the reason for the placement of the last and fatal bullet.

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    • Coast says:

      And when you’re shooting like that, you’re going to keep shooting even as he falls. I know I would.

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      • kinthenorthwest says:

        You got that one right…H3LL just look at the size of Brown—I would have emptied my gun on him too and probably have some messy pants too. Below is what I said previously on this.
        When you got someone of that size charging you, you defend yourself. Brown kept charging, even after a couple of shots according to one of the witnesses. The witness even thought that the first shots missed since Brown kept charging. Just go to You Tube and type in the following for the video. “Witness to Michael Brown shooting: “dude kept coming towards the police”
        Come on people if you fire a couple of shots at someone that size and they keep angrily charging you, are you going to stop firing–I THINK NOT!!. I do have a feeling that due to Brown’s size that the first ones didn’t really even phase him. The fifth probably made him falter and start falling, which is the reason for the placement of the last bullet.

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          Especially when he has already broken your eye socket.

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        • myopiafree says:

          With a bashed and broken eye – most of us would MISS a man-sized target at 35 feet – if we could take aim. But if that target is running TOWARDS YOU – AS FAST AS POSSIBLE – you “aim” is going to improve. You should ever stop shooting – until the charge is stopped. Remember the OTHER felon – you do not know what HE is going to attempt to do to you. Wilson had the right to protect his life – against two violent felons.

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          • hoosiergranny says:

            Given the abilities of some of the ER patients I’ve seen, I would also empty my gun. People with various drugs in their systems are like rogue elephants. And as large as Michael Brown was, I would want to make sure he could not put another hand on me.

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            • ftsk420 says:

              I said this before PCP makes people like superman also if this cop had a 9mm it doesn’t surprise me one bit it took that many shots to bring him down

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          • AghastInFL says:

            I find it frustrating how quickly a meme develops and becomes part of the narrative… MB was 35′ from the police vehicle (according to reports) not from Ofc Wilson.

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      • nameofthepen says:

        Agree, Coast. I don’t know “protocol”, but I do imagine that any officer, perceiving his own life to be in danger, is going to keep shooting until the attacker stops advancing.

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    • justfactsplz says:

      That is the logical conclusion. I concur.

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    • AN says:

      4 of the shots where in the arm, one was in the head no high value biology in either, the shot to the neck might have killed him.

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      • 2x4x8 says:

        Dr Baden said the other wounds were survivable, but the one at the top of head went into the brain and immediately killed him which would seem right, head down charging or already faltering as Officer Wilson keeps firing till Michael Brown is down on the ground, so the new “theory” by the BGI is execution, because they see the case slipping away from them, wasn’t Michael on the cell phone with his girlfriend at the time?

        😉

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    • Crystal says:

      The first 4 shots might also have gone awry as the cop had sustained an eye injury to his socket during the original altercation. Therefore, the cop might have had an impairment to one eye while he was shooting in that he kept missing. Or he was firing off warning shots to get the thug to stop charging him. To the cop, it was self-preservation. The thug had already slugged him in the face, causing the eye injury, and reached for his gun, which went off in the car. Presumably, the thug was attempting to shoot the cop with his own gun.

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  7. ftsk420 says:

    Crump said the same thing when Dee Dee came into play with Trayvon.

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  8. ftsk420 says:

    Do we know what kind of gun the cop had

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  9. tooskinneejs says:

    You are being very generous in describing Mr. Parcells as a “Forensic Pathologist Assistant” given the following from the linked St. Louis Dispatch article:

    “Parcells uses the professional initials “FPA,” which he says stands for Forensic Pathologist Assistant, a designation he invented. “I’m trying to get that designation out there for pathologists’ assistants to be able to use,” he said.”

    “Sarah Patterson, spokeswoman for the American Society for Clinical Pathology, says she has never heard of the FPA designation.”

    “Patterson said a certification exists for a pathologists’ assistant — after completion of a master’s degree — but she said Parcells was not a member of their group, nor has he ever taken any classes through them.”

    A designation he invented??? Crumb hired an “expert” who admits he invented his own credentials? And they put him on CNN and he is treated as if he really is an expert? And you have to love that the NYT article gives Parcells the title of “Professor” despite the fact that (again from the St. Louis Dispatch article):

    “He also lists himself as a professor at Wichita State University, but Jean Brickell, chair of medical technology there, said Parcells only assisted at a clinical site one time.”

    He assisted at a site one time and he calls himself a professor?

    Are we supposed to take this stuff seriously? How is it possible that CNN and the NYT treat this guy as a trustworthy expert with a background like this? Are we supposed to believe that the NYT reporter doesn’t know how to use google to find out this information before publishing a story and calling this guy a professor? Its so bad that it almost makes you think they (CNN and NYT, etc.) are doing this on purpose….

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  10. kathyca says:

    Nice! I noticed in this video Parks says Brown was staying with friends and not his grandmother. And then he refuses to say anything else about it. So you KNOW there’s something behind that story.

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    • tooskinneejs says:

      There must be a ton of really damaging information that has yet to be made public on Mike Brown given that the family attorneys in the 8/19 press conference (linked below) spend about 5 minutes of the press conference talking about the fact that more stuff will probably come out about Big Mike that won’t look too favorable (but that all of that stuff should be ignored of course!).

      http://fox2now.com/2014/08/15/live-updates-brown-family-addresses-the-media-from-ferguson-police-headquarters/

      The fact that they went on and on about it when no one had even asked sure makes me wonder what we can expect to learn about Big Mike, the “Gentle Giant.”

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      • arttart1983 says:

        I speculate the little girl Big Mike is photographed with countless times either holding in his lap, feeding her, etc., is probably his child but the baby mama hasn’t stepped forward. His mom appears too old for it to be her daughter.

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      • John Galt says:

        “makes me wonder what we can expect to learn about Big Mike, the “Gentle Giant.”

        I won’t post rumors here, but you might want to keep an eye on:

        @ChuckCJohnson

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    • leatherlady says:

      Another similarity to Trayvon. Brown’s grandmother Desuirea Harris was quoted as saying that Michael was not from Ferguson, but was spending the summer with her in Ferguson.
      So what town did Michael live in and who did he live with? Did he live with his mother and stepfather, Louis Head? Or did he live with his father Michael Brown Sr.?

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      • nivico says:

        That’s another notable contradiction… Parks stated in the press conference that Mike was in Ferguson staying with “friends.”

        Why the need to change that part of the narrative and deflect attention away from the relatives he was originally claimed to be staying with?

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    • 2x4x8 says:

      definitely another Trayvon Martin

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    • nameofthepen says:

      Nice catch, kathyca. Often, “The devil is in the details”. 😉

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  11. Serpentor says:

    Why Parks & Crump have not been disbarred is a mystery to me. Needless suffering took place due to the Trayvon lies (I don’t recall anyone dying as a direct result of the lies, but I wouldn’t be surprised). How many revenge for Trayvon attacks took place that year?

    Had Parks and Crump been disbarred for meddling with the investigation, they wouldn’t have been spinning lies in the Michael Brown case. Several have been shot, stores burned, people endangered, etc. Then, of course, today a rioter was killed.

    When will Crump and Parks be held accountable?

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  12. chuckles49 says:

    They need to pin Dr. Baden down on the record as to whether he actually conducted the autopsy, or if he just signed it off. This is just Trayvon Martin 2.0 with the same cast of dumb players. Apparently they forgot about the Treehouse. LOL

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Something is fishy at Fox.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        Okay, I’ll bite. What?

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      • kinthenorthwest says:

        They seem to be interviewing all the Brown people…They interviewed Balden and Johnson’s lawyer.

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      • CoffeeBreak says:

        Yes, there certainly is. Even before batface had that meeting earlier this year with roger a. The look on hasselbeck’s face and her tone when she told that black guy his rant (on blacks and lack of accountability) was extreme, was strange- like there was really something untoward going on. At first i was really pissed at her for being a turncoat shill. But, I watched it a few more times and it just creeped me out. I don’t want to get all aj/infowarsy about it but it did make me wonder about what I’ve heard about the govt having a physical presence in media/pr/entertainment.

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  13. janc1955 says:

    I’d like to think that Parks and Crump tried to get an ME of, say, Shiping Bao’s character, but after the TM fiasco, had trouble doing even that, so he had to settle for some shady assistant, with a fly-by from Baden. I hope this is a preview of the kind of cooperation these shakedown artists will be getting in their future endeavors.

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  14. over the top says:

    “Dr. Baden was flown in later to review the findings of the Forensic Pathologist Assistant, Shawn Parcells, and give it credibility in the eyes of a non-questioning media.`

    so then what happened to the waved his $10,000 fee…did he wave the fee or was this the reason there was no fee

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Fishy. And BOR called in from vacation to back a special prosecutor. Fishy.

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      • over the top says:

        I just dont see this working out for them…the Zimmerman case backfired on them.

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        • Hopeful this one does too, and the heads of the race baiters et al. roll over this.

          I’m tired of watching this crap. Here we go again. Trayvon Martin Redux, this time with added riots.

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          • doodahdaze says:

            Other than this type of case who would hire Crump and Parks? Think. Would you hire a law firm with no credibility that can be blown out of court by a little blog full of laymen? This is their last gasp. Thank goodness.

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        • doodahdaze says:

          They may be flat broke and desperate. Wrongful death claims are not too lucrative without any wrongful deaths. They are bottom feeders.

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        • doodahdaze says:

          They got their go away money. They don’t care about the backfire. Floriduh put up with them because of Rick Scott and Pam Bondi. They higher courts just told them….GO AWAY. West and Omara kicked their ass with the rules. They never go to court. They would not know what to do in a court of law.

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        • doodahdaze says:

          The min person in the whole worlf who never wants to her the name of Benjamin Crump….My bet…Bernie!!! Hi Bernie.

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      Bet he getting some bucks for all his interviews

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  15. Paul H. Lemmen says:

    Reblogged this on A Conservative Christian Man.

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  16. froggielegs says:

    Which also explains why Baden said he waived his 10k fee. He didn’t waive it, he didn’t do the autopsy!!

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  17. Holly says:

    Like the mysterious red dot that suddenly appeared on the back view of the body on the autopsy diagrams at the press conference. That wasnt there or noted at all on the one the scheme team released earlier. They used this to show that he could have possibly had his arms extended or even maybe shot from behind.
    The whole team is nothing but opportunistic liars and race baiters.

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  18. katcreg says:

    I don’t understand why Dr. Baden would allow his reputation to be tarnished in this way?

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    • doodahdaze says:

      F-O-X ?

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    • Sal paradise says:

      That solid was for you

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Could it be that his advanced age has led to a form of mild dementia?

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      • janc1955 says:

        He has always seemed mildly confused or perhaps a little slow on the uptake. I’ve been watching him for the last 5-6 years.

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      • arttart1983 says:

        LJP ~ Dr. Baden is 80 yrs. old, I too agree he likely has mild dementia.

        Dr. Baden made a MAJOR faux pas during KC Anthony’s case, it drew National Attention. Although Dr. Baden was not part of KC’s team, his wife Linda Kinny Baden was. A lot of speculation had circulated about KC’s possible use of chloroform to drug Caylee. Dr. Baden said in an interview, “Well, they have the chloroform evidence in the baby’s hair.” I knew then Dr. Baden had lost his mind then, Baez/KC’s legal team had to do some fast back tracking/making excuses for Dr. Baden’s statement & pointing out he was NOT part of the legal team. (many thought Dr. Baden got information from his wife that was, Linda Kinny Baden.)

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    • St. Benedict's Thistle says:

      There’s no fool like an old fool?

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  19. mung says:

    What will it take for someone to press charges against these fools?

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  20. I urge everybody to read this document about criminal procedure in Missouri. http://ago.mo.gov/publications/courtprocess.pdf It is clear that an open presentation of evidence in a preliminary hearing is the usual way to decide whether a case should go forward. Why they are choosing the alternate of having a Grand Jury deliberate in secret about it, beats me. If anything more real information and less rumor is what the public needs.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Good research. That is after the arrest and charge. It is also better than Florida Law which was changed. But the GJ has power beyond your imagination to seek truth. The prelim is for the accused to challenge probable cause and constitutional protections. After information or indictment. Keep up the good research.

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    • Rachelle says:

      A grand jury proceeding is a good way to take the pressure off the state when a mob is calling for prosecution but the evidence really doesn’t support it. The grand jury can dump the case in relative safety. Almost surely that would have happened with Zimmerman which is why the mob worked so hard to short circuit the grand jury.

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        Yup. Norm Wolfinger wanted to go the GJ route, but was forced out by Rick Scott, giving Angela Corey the opportunity to pander to the BGI types. Zimmerman was nearly crucified by the process, but at least Sanford FL didn’t erupt like Ferguson MO. And that lack of flames probably disappointed the S’Mores lovers in the NAACP.

        Notice how groups like the New Black Panthers made themselves visible in both cases?

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      • Sorry but I don’t agree. A refusal of the GJ to indict or a “nolle prosequi” from the prosecutor might cause riots because the mob won’t know the reasoning behind the action. However, a preliminary hearing where witnesses will be cross examined on TV might make it obvious to everybody that there is no case against Ofc. Wilson.

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        • clash108 says:

          Then they would have to arrest Officer Wilson. On what charge would they arrest him on and based on what evidence? You can’t base your decisions on the rights of an individual because you’re trying to appease a mob so they won’t riot.

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          • The document doesn’t make clear that you have to arrest somebody to have a preliminary hearing but can have a GJ investigation without arresting him. You seem to be assuming that but I find no basis for it. The prosecutor is not going in front of a Grand Jury unless he thinks he has probable cause:
            “The prosecutor presents evidence to the
            12 grand jurors, nine of whom must agree
            on whether a crime was committed and
            whether there is probable cause to believe
            the defendant committed it”.
            Doing it in front of a judge in public is ;legally the same thing.

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            • doodahdaze says:

              I admire your effort and “real” research. But note…”Felony case begins” at the start. That means that an arress or charge must have been filed already. It is called first appearance around here. Here it is hard to challenge probable cause at first appearance. I promise you that there must be a charge and arress for a felony “case” to begin. Trust me on that one.

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            • doodahdaze says:

              BTW. The Grand jury once empaneled can do and go anywhere it wants. It does not have to listen to the prosecutor. They can subpoena anyone and investigate anything and nobody can stop them. Not a judge, not a prosecutor, not even Obama or Holder. Nobody.

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            • clash108 says:

              GJs are a common tactic used by prosecutors in controversial high profile cases. IMO, If this prosecutor thought there was a strong case against Officer Wilson, he wouldn’t rely on a GJ, they would arrest Wilson, bring charges and proceed to prelim hearing (which Wilson would have the option to waive). It’s my gut feeling that the prosecutor knows there is no case against Wilson and is using the GJ as a political ploy to say to the masses something to the effect of “see, I’m being impartial , and we’ll let an independent body decide.”

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              • arttart1983 says:

                clash ~ The Chief of Police stated when the event first happened, that it would be the GJ that made the decision if charges were to be brought against Officer Wilson, the Prosecutor didn’t make that decision. He went on to say they were different than in other states, the Grand Jury would make the decision, then hand their findings to the Prosecutor.

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              • doodahdaze says:

                Or on the other hand….it depends.

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            • nameofthepen says:

              Ricky Jimenez, wherever did you get that idea?

              Do you have some links you can share which cite this?

              Because everything I can find on a casual search indicates that a GJ is NOT “a judge”, it’s a special type of jury.

              “There is no judge present and frequently there are no lawyers except for the prosecutor.”

              http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/how-does-a-grand-jury-work.html

              “A grand jury is a legal body that is empowered to conduct official proceedings to investigate potential criminal conduct and to determine whether criminal charges should be brought…A grand jury is separate from the courts…”

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_jury

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          • janc1955 says:

            You can’t, except it seems that’s exactly what went on in the Zimmerman case and perhaps this one.

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        • John Galt says:

          “might cause riots”

          So what? A quad .50 can handle lots of rioters.

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      According to the document you presented, the prosecutor may either file the charge himself, much the same as Angela Corey did in the George Zimmerman case, and then appear before a judge during a probable cause hearing to get a decision of whether or not there is sufficient probable cause to proceed with a trial. Or,the prosecutor may decide to present the matter to a GJ who will make that decision. The major differences between the two are

      1) During the GJ process the accused does not attend unless he intends to testify on his own behalf… and….

      2) The GJ proceedings are closed to the public

      Could this be a matter of the prosecutor deciding that a GJ is a way for him (personally) to avoid being accused of not prosecuting a case based on racial prejudice, when the fact is that he is not wanting to pursue the case because the facts don’t warrant an arrest and prosecution? This saves the effort and expense of a trial and (possibly) reduces the negative publicity which could cause further damage to the city, the city PD, and to the officer in question.

      But, your guess is as good as mine. Who knows what goes through the minds of elected officials when a hot potato lands in their laps?

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      • Florida has no probable cause hearings. In the Zimmerman case, he Affidavit of Probably Cause was put in front of a judge who just rubber stamped it without discussion. In Missouri that can’t be done unless the defendant waives the hearing.

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        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          Florida has no probable cause hearings.

          I don’t believe that is entirely accurate. While it might not be formally called a “Probable Cause Hearing” FL does have an “Initial Appearance” or “Initial Hearing” prior to the formal Arraignment..

          On 4/12/12 Zimmerman DID have an “Initial Hearing” before Judge Michael Herr during which his legal team could have moved for dismissal based on lack of probable cause. This, however, requires them to stipulate to all of the evidence or testimony provided in the prosecutor’s affidavit of probable cause, and then argue that on the face of that affidavit, no probable cause existed. Naturally, since Angela Corey’s APC included testimony that was in dispute, no such motion was filed, so the judge had no choice than to bind him over for trial. Had Zimmerman’s legal team made such a stipulation, then part of his defense would have been hampered. This is the same reason why there was no motion for a summary judgement of dismissal later on after the prosecution had presented its case, and before the defense began theirs.

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          • If it was in Missouri, Judge Herr would have to had to bring in in DeeDee and everybody else mentioned in the APC. The case never would have gotten off the ground. You don’t have to stipulate to anything to have a probable cause hearing in Missouri.

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            • doodahdaze says:

              Better idea. FL used to have them. Now they want to get plea bargains because of all the crime and lack of jail space and $$$$$ The cops catch so many crooks it is overloading the system. This is the only one and only place I semi-agree with Holder. But he only cares about HIS PEOPLE. Ya can’t throw people in jail for not being able to pay a ticket for a bad tail light. But they do.

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          • doodahdaze says:

            They have 48 hours. Omara did not.

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      • myopiafree says:

        Hi Justice, If a charge is attempted, then I would like to see Wilson with a bandage on his head (from his fractured eye-socket) testify as to why he had no choice but to shoot the charging person – who had proven himself to be violent. That would make a truly emotional hearing. (But closed to the public.)

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    • If any of you check into the St Louis Lab it is used by many states due to its reputation and accuracy .

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    • barbie says:

      Preliminary hearings occur After you’ve already accused and arrested someone. I know that fro “Perry Mason”! They don’t require the prosecutor to do much either.

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  21. William says:

    If the person who was shot had a bullet in the top of his head and was either standing or kneeling, wouldn’t the shooter need to point the gun perpendicular to the top of his head and fire the gun? And wouldn’t that require the shooter to be standing beside the person who was shot?

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    • William says:

      Since Brown was over six feet tall, it would not be possible for the policeman to have shot him in the head standing next to him. So the two possibilities is that Brown was kneeling down and the officer was standing next to him, or the top of Brown’s head was parallel to the ground, such as in a position of running and falling forward in the direction of the policeman.

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    • barbie says:

      It’s likely that Brown, charging, was falling forward. He had been shots in the arm several times, after all.

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      • kinthenorthwest says:

        That has been my theory all along…The 5th bullet finally got to Brown and hew as either faltering or falling. From the witness it looks like the first one or two didn’t seem to phase Brown. Remember the other witness said that it looked like the officer must have missed cause Brown kept charging.
        Thus the one in the eye probably had and effect on Brown with him starting to fall, the 6th was just automatic.
        H3LL if any of us had a 6ft 4in 300 lb guy still charging us after a couple of shots we would be shooting and praying for all it was worth.

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  22. Moishe Pipik says:

    Holder’s on his way to organize a lynching!

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Holder-brings-his-civil-rights-push-to-Ferguson-5698666.php

    I thought one of the most basic American principles was the presumption of innocence and the right to a fair trial. Not in Obama’s America.

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  23. William says:

    The presumption of innocence is not applied universally. That presumption is taken away from those determined not to meet certain criteria, as in this case. That is, whatever the mob wants, the mob gets.

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  24. AghastInFL says:

    I’m interested now more than ever in the first autopsy results, from the Baden report “…only three bullets were recovered from his body.” I understand thru and thru… but I am still interested in the findings of Dr. Case in this regard.

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  25. ctdar says:

    Date above parks & crump photo should be 8/17/14.

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    • riverlife_callie says:

      Where does it say that? I thought the article was referring to the second man shot.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        You are right. I was doing some research about mental illness and possible connection with Brown. This article IS referring to the second man shot. There are many articles hinting at but fall short of calling Brown mentally ill. My bad.

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      • John Galt says:

        Yes, article pertains to dead perp #2. There is a common theme: physically assaulting cops can be hazardous to your health.

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  26. ctdar says:

    Nice catch Nivico!

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  27. David says:

    It seems obvious to me having had experience shooting under duress at a moving target that the bullet holes in Mr. Brown reflect exactly that. This pattern or ones similar to it are exactly what you would expect from someone firing at a moving target while in fear for their life.

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  28. justafly says:

    So, what is the real purpose for all this obfuscation and hyperbole on this incident? Incite riots? Martial law? Cash for the ‘klunkers’ in the Ralph Lauren suits? Low hanging fruit for the talking heads? I guess I just don’t get it.

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    • mung says:

      It’s all about the Benjamins baby!!!!

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      IMO, all of those things, and more. The ambulance chasers of the BGI find useful idiots like $ybrina Fulton, Lesley McSpadden, and Gina Jones and parade them around to fuel racial discord among other useful idiots, with little regards for the truth, for the dead, or for the family members of the dead. It’s just one big “Dog and Pony Show” staged to create furor among the minority population, panic in the general public, and a kneejerk reaction by the politicians. One big charade staged for a single goal: To line their pockets with “Go Away” money or large settlements paid at huge expense to the taxpayers.

      Media types love this more than a “Man Bites Dog” story because they can spin it whichever way they like, and drag it back out whenever the public is tired of hearing about Iraq, Syria, Benghazi, and Ukraine. This is meaty, bloody, and right here at home. The public eats it up and the Geraldo Rivera types can use it to extend their own shelf lives on the evening news.

      And the liberal politicians love this stuff, too. Especially if there’s a gun involved. More fuel to stoke the engines of their one-track minds: Ban guns! If the people don’t have them, then the cops won’t need them, either! Or, if that doesn’t work, then all the more reason that we need the power to declare martial law! Lock it down! Lock it ALL down!

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      My theory is that the Obama team took this and escalated it to take the heat off Obama and his unpopularity. Look at it guys, even the Left Slanting polls had Obama’s approval rating at around 40%.

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  29. Stormy says:

    Sweet catch Nivico !!

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  30. maggiemoowho says:

    These people should have to be licensed to do that work, maybe thats a law Missouri needs. Boden said he waved his fee, but did Parcells and would it even be legal for him to accept a fee for something you do not have a degree or license for. Maybe they made a donation to his ministries, Shawn Parcells Ministries.

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  31. incidentalreader says:

    Saw this image, thought maybe it was doctored. Look closely what do you see in the photo? It’s real!

    Another image from a slightly different angle, showing the same thing as in the photo linked above. I wonder……..toxicology. What will it show??????

    http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/f9/3f9d2c77-83eb-5060-964f-33db48e5a250/53f38f8f7d775.preview-620.jpg This image is a direct link from this article: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/michael-brown-shooting-case-to-go-before-grand-jury-wednesday/article_375eff87-6a6b-534b-abcc-a8664e7d3ba2.html

    Do you see it yet?!

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  32. ctdar says:

    The Ferguson Nightly Reality Show gearing up to start episode 10

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    • doodahdaze says:

      YaY!! Can’t wait for tonights episode!!! Clear the streets and bring on the protestors. Some may become stars!

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      • barbie says:

        The media is driving the nighttime antics and I resent them for it. Last night the guys with the mics were practically begging for people to act out, which finally, a few did.

        Fox is promoting it as much as any network. Greta and the others can’t get enough of it. Makes me sick. College age white girls saying they are with Amnesty International are there, acting as if they are the world’s savior and other young white girls thinking they’ll rescue the blacks. Little do they understand how they are viewed with contempt by those they say they are trying to help and by gawd, I understand how blacks would look upon them with contempt because the girls have a condescending attitude, as if only THEY could help the poor little helpless blacks. Disgusting all around. Youth is stupid and much of what this chaos is about is how this society indulges youth. Mike Brown and youth like him know that the hustlers and media whores will protect him (“hey, we all did bad things when we were young, ya know?” they scream) and those white “girls” are young and stupid yet cameras focus on their words as if they really knew anything about the world.

        It sickens me.

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        • Yakmaster says:

          I’m also really alarmed by the mammas bringing their pre-teens to theses protests/riots. How irresponsible can you be?? Open the dang schools and get the kids off the streets, idiots!!

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  33. Julie says:

    This is damn corrupt there are no words people !!!!! They are going to charge Officer Wilson regardless …..It’s wrong , so damn wrong !

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Not as bad as Zimmerman yet.

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    • myopiafree says:

      Hi Julie, You are right – this Grand Jury will be “Life or Death” for Wilson. If it “death”, our Justice System is dead. Very few honest people will wish to be cops – and be charged with murder – in the line of duty. The chief prosecutor will have to be very careful with this one. I would not “worry” about the looters and burners in the city. They will do that anyway – regardless of “Bill or No-Bill”. What is the bet? 80 percent for an expected “Bill” from the Grand Jury? It is time for them to have some courage – to tell the truth.

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  34. Yakmaster says:

    There is no FPA (Forensic Pathology Assistant) designation in the forensic pathology world. According to a news story Nivico referenced with a link on another post, Parcells admitted ****he made it up and said he’s trying to get Pathology associations to recognize it ***He is NOT a professor, he lied about that on his company website, according to the school he listed.He lied about a number of his qualifications, including being a member in two Pathology Associations. He has less cred than even Corey’s audio whisperer. Wish I had the link to those articles to repost here, but I’m on my Kindle and it would take a Herculean effort right now.
    .

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  35. Artist says:

    I posted this on Megyn Kelly’s Fox News FB page…..maybe she’ll read it

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  36. kinthenorthwest says:

    This though laughable actually says so much Seems they don’t like the trash can donation bit anymore.
    Earlier on Saturday, Rev. Jesse Jackson made an appearance at the scene of the violent protests, and was booed when he started asking for donations. Twitter users weren’t afraid to express their opinions, of course: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/08/17/jackson-booed-man-shot-and-shaprton-plans-march-in-missouri-unrest-139415

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Maybe some blacks are waking up to the 1% lib elites and DNC. Their knees have to be a knokin’ Same with all the cops. They are screwing us all.

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  37. doodahdaze says:

    Pray for one good man on the GJ if it actually gets empaneled.

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  38. czarowniczy says:

    Those niggling little half truths are still being floated to make the incident look like blatant racism on the part of the police. Nightly news was reporting that the police department in Ferguson was overwhelmingly white while the population was overwhelmingly black. they then went on to report that the overwhelming number of stop/frisk, searches/traffic stops, all that normal stuff you do on a routine night, involved black stopees. Now, if your town is overwhelmingly black it stands to reason (OK, not their reason) that the overwhelming number of drivers on the road at any given time of night would be black and that. again statistically, the overwhelming number of stops would involve (brass fanfare here) black drivers/passengers. Why would white drivers be driving around the streets of a predominantly black town in large numbers? Is there some Federal white-driver-quota system in place I’m unaware of?
    Next, reporters on another station were saying that Ferguson was mostly white about ten years ago but over the intervening period has become more and more black. You’d have a carryover of white officers hired while the city was still predominantly black, which would help explain the alleged disparity, B..U..T.. let’s look at this from another angle. If the department has high standards and high requirements for entry you will find that many of the available pool of black applicants do not qualify. First, let’s look at the educational requirement – NOPD now has a requirement that to be considered the applicants must have two years of college or military service – that cuts out a lot of local applicants, especially black, and about all departments won’t consider you if you do not have a high school diploma and inmost cases a GED goes right to the end of the consideration line if it gets in at all.. Some departments have a psychological eval and a polygraph and you have to pass both, Most have requirements for clean criminal records though some misdemeanors may be looked at and passed on but misdemeanor domestic abuse carries the Federal onus of forbidding you to own or possess a firearm – there goes your police career.
    Driving record? Any drug charges? Two places I worked require newbies to spend a year working the jails before they’ll even consider you for the force as they want to see if you have what it takes to deal with the under-crust. Then you have to make it through the academy, which I refer to as military basic training lite, though some are as hard as the military in some areas. Some departments look at family – do you have immediate family serving and serious prison time for a major crime – not a direct killer but it don’t help. See how many applicants get canned before they get to put on the badge?
    Then we have the big cultural thang – how many blacks want to become a tool of the man? Lots want to become po-leeces but not that many want to become police. I worked with some black officer who scared the sht out of me, as well as other black officers, but then we had somewhat lower hiring standards than the other jurisdictions in town. We even had one ranking officer who was not POST certified and another (male) who used his rank and position to force other young (male) officers into sex. Don’t worry, when he was caught he was moved to a position (no double entendre there) where he could no longer hold any influence over the younger officers. Told ya we had looser standards. Anyway, the liars are on the march and brown flags of ISSHT are flying.

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  39. MouseTheLuckyDog says:

    Well he or won’t he?

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    • barbie says:

      What would be the reason for such a recusal?

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      • John Galt says:

        Crump wants an arress.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Calling all cars…Calling all cars…BOLO…BOLO….Crooked polutitions and newz media. You now are as low as the Tea Party and George Zimmerman. Govern yourself accordingly. Over and out.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Confilct. If you have a conflict of interest of any kind you should recuse yourself from a case. Here they have been setting him up for recusal because when he was 12 his father (a cop) was killed in line of duty by a black perp. I did notice the schemers went so far as to edit his wiki page to reflect that. This is part of the scheme. But I think he could empanel the GJ and then an assistant DA take it and he recuse if he thinks he is conflicted. Whether or not whoever took the case would be a plant …well welll…….Oh well. I think he has to make a personal decision about it.

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  40. bob e says:

    awesome grab nivico .. tough to out fox the treepers .. wolverines !!

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  41. Yakmaster says:

    These demonstrations have become a big street party now. Get popcorn and a drink. A big one.

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  42. boutis says:

    This would also explain why an “assistant” took over the news conference when the world famous ME was stammering around and giving inconvenient facts during the spin, er I mean news conference. The ME was not saying what Crump wanted so the fake assistant jumped in to “clarify” things.

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  43. barbie says:

    Greta has Crump on now. I’m afraid I’m going to be ticked. See, if she or the other Fox people get tough in their questioning, they won’t come on her show.

    Why does Crump keep saying “killed in broad daylight”? It reminds the viewers that it’s not likely someone would “execute” someone in the light of day. Idiot. “Shot multiple times.” Idiot.

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    • Yakmaster says:

      ALL reporters treat the Scheam Team with kid gloves. Never challenge them. Never ask questions any ordinary person would ask: like since the officer’s version, as told by a friend, does NOT say the bullet from the gun that went off in the car struck Brown, isn’t it possible the bullet hit the floorboard or a seat or the opposite door?? GEEESH!

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  44. barbie says:

    Oh, great, Greta gave Crump the opening he wanted–he says he doesn’t believe the process is transparent: “As you know, Great, grand juries are secret and we don’t ……”‘

    There you go. The rules governing the rest of us are not supposed to apply to black people.

    HE wants the feds to intervene so that everyone will know things are “transparent.” HA.

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  45. CoffeeBreak says:

    Nivico, thank you!

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  46. I wonder if they’re on the streets just for MSM…” ok here come the news lets go and boom… ” …. geez…

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  47. doodahdaze says:

    Note: FOX is assuming charges and court. Just sayin.

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