Are We Being Lied To ? – Detainment Center At Artesia New Mexico Claims Lockdown Due To Chicken Pox… But Something Is Not Adding Up

A few days ago we shared the Washington Times story about a facility in New Mexico being closed due to a Chicken Pox outbreak.  However, a little more research into the Artesia, New Mexico, Detainment Center and you can find out a week prior a little-known CDC/DHS inspection found there were 89 (eighty-nine) cases of Tuberculosis identified in the exact same facility.

Is the Chicken Pox story a cover for the more troublesome Tuberculosis outbreak ? Is the New Mexico quarantine really because of Chicken Pox ?

If so, why didn’t they quarantine the facility as they began x-ray screening for the 89 active skin-test TB cases ?

I think with research we have a pretty good idea of what the *actual* reality is.  But first, the Chicken Pox story as it appeared in the media:

artesiaNEW MEXICO – The federal government’s new facility to house illegal immigrant families surging across the border has been put on lockdown because of chicken pox, with no immigrants allowed to be transferred in or out, a congressman said this week.

Hundreds of illegal immigrants being kept at the campus of the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico, are being treated for and vaccinated against chicken pox after an outbreak, said Rep. Steve Pearce, the Republican congressman whose district includes Artesia.

“As the FLETC facility reaches maximum capacity, I am increasingly concerned for the health and safety of the women and children at FLETC and for the local community. The virus, that has caused two residents to be put in isolation, has halted all departures,” Mr. Pearce said.

artesia 2He said he’s asked the Homeland Security Department, which runs the facility, to be available to handle calls from the community.

The chicken pox outbreak is the latest hiccup for federal officials struggling to gain a handle on the surge of illegal immigrants from Central America this year.

While most of the attention has been on the children traveling without their parents, the border has been flooded by an almost equal number of families from Central America — usually women bringing their children with them. While unaccompanied children were being turned over to social workers, the families were eligible for quick deportations — except the government had fewer than 100 beds to hold the thousands of people being apprehended. (read more)

IMMIG-BORDER

However, the week prior, the first underreported story of positive skin TB tests in the same facility reflected this reality:  (*note – Pay attention to the dates)

TUESDAY JULY 22nd – ARTESIA >> A total of 89 undocumented immigrants detained at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center have tested positive on the tuberculosis, or TB, skin test, but no individual has actually contracted the disease according to J.R. Doporto, a Carlsbad City Councilor.

A positive TB skin or blood test only signifies that the person has been infected with the bacteria that causes tuberculosis, according to a fact sheet published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The test does not show whether the person has actually contracted the tuberculosis disease.

If a person tests positive in the TB skin test, he or she is then given a chest x-ray which proves whether the subject has contracted the disease.

Doporto, Artesia Mayor Phil Burch, and other various city and county officials from Southeastern New Mexico met with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials on Tuesday (7/22) for an update on the status of the undocumented immigrants being detained at FLETC while they await either deportation or an asylum hearing in front of an immigration judge. (read more)

On Tuesday July 22nd they were in the process of x-raying the positive skin test detainees to identify “ACTIVE TUBERCULOSIS”.

According to the media report some detainees ‘skin-tested positive’ on Tuesday July 22nd, and therefore couldn’t get their x-rays until Wednesday July 23rd or Thursday the 24th.  There are 603 illegal alien detainees in this facility. Notably ICE refused to give the reporter commentary.   However, the final paragraph of the article is this:

[…]  No detainee to-date has been found to have any contagious disease or virus since Central Americans who were caught illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border were first brought to Artesia on June 27. (link)

And yet SIX DAYS after this article, and four days after the TB X-Rays began, the entire facility was shut down due to an outbreak of “chicken pox” ?

Doesn’t make sense.

If, according to the reporter and city council member, no detainee through 7/22/14 “has been found to have any contagious disease“, then why did the entire facility get quarantined five days after they began screening (x-rays) for “active TB” ?

Think about it.

…And another factor coincidence.  The same day as the media reports the facility was quarantined, President Obama signs an executive order allowing for the detainment and quarantine of those showing signs of acute respiratory disease, ex: Tuberculosis.

On Thursday, Barack Obama signed an executive order that allows for the apprehension, detention, or conditional release of individuals with certain severe acute respiratory diseases, not including influenza. The executive order modifies one signed in 2003 by George Bush that allowed for the detention and quarantine of those with SARS.

“Severe acute respiratory syndromes, which are diseases that are associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, are capable of being transmitted from person to person, and that either are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic, or, upon infection, are highly likely to cause mortality or serious morbidity if not properly controlled,” the executive order reads. “This subsection does not apply to influenza.” (link)

Our hunch, our reasonable hunch based on empirical evidence, is the quarantine was a direct result of positive x-ray scans for ACTIVE TB.

Further evidenced because the CDC, DHS and ICE have been studying TB contagion rates in illegal aliens for several years.    And not coincidentally guess which countries have the highest rates of TB virus:

TB ICE study 04 - 05

(Source Link)

It’s important to remember the U.S. Border Patrol does NOT screen for diseases.  The BP merely process the apprehended illegal alien and transfer into a temporary detainment facility – like the FLETC facility in Artesia, New Mexico – where DHS (Dept. of Homeland Security) take over and begin screening the arrivals.

Additionally, and again not coincidentally, yesterday the following article outlined Inspector General audits of DHS facilities.   The audit reflected an alarming reality:

Unaccompanied illegal immigrant children with communicable diseases have given or exposed federal agents to lice, scabies, tuberculosis and chicken pox, according to a report issued Thursday by the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General.

In two cases, the children of a border patrol agent got chicken pox contracted from their parents’ exposure to unaccompanied children with chicken pox, according to the report on conditions of detention centers and border facilities.

The report, the first in a series, is based on 87 unannounced visits to 63 detention centers being used to house unaccompanied alien children (UAC) in Texas, Arizona and California during July 1-16.  (continue reading)

An outbreak of “Chicken Pox” sounds a lot better to the public than an outbreak of “Tuberculosis”, no?   The former sounds, well, almost ‘childlike’.

I seriously doubt the exact same facility holding 603 detainees, just coincidentally with 89 positive TB skin tests, is quarantined because of chicken pox -with zero prior occurrence’s- just five days after x-rays began on 89 positive TB skin test patients; on the same day President Obama signs an executive order allowing DHS to detain and isolate TB carriers.

Occam’s Razor !

Just sayin’….

Obama Racine

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92 Responses to Are We Being Lied To ? – Detainment Center At Artesia New Mexico Claims Lockdown Due To Chicken Pox… But Something Is Not Adding Up

  1. maryfrommarin says:

    I’d say the chances of being lied to are quite high (understatement).

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  2. waltherppk says:

    The government can manage health care every bit as good as the government could manage world trade center security …….so what could possibly go wrong with the government right on top of things?

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  3. doodahdaze says:

    Question. My worry is a Muslim fanatic. Could one infect themself on purpose and then travel here on a suicide virus mission? Could he run around and spread Ebola all over the place? Clearly if they are willing to blow themselves up, they would do it if they can get away with it. I think.

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  4. labrat says:

    These people are coming from countries that use the BCG vaccine. You can’t use the skin test to screen these people. I suspect that’s why they had so many positive tests. They should screen them with blood tests (like the T-spot) instead.

    Note- I still think there is a significant TB threat from this mass invasion.

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  5. mooney1el says:

    My mother, now diseased, was born in 1917. While still a young girl, her mother died of Tuberculosis and she and some of her siblings had to spend some time (I recall 6 months or more) in what was called a sanatorium. A sanatorium was a special facility designated for the treatment and the prevention of spreading of tuberculosis. Although she never went into great detail about her stay, she did tell us that all they did was rest. I would liken it to a quasi-quarantine. Perhaps, the HHS has purposely placed all of these folks in a New Mexico sanatorium?

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    • ytz4mee says:

      That’s very sad. My mom did a residency at a TB santorium back in the 60’s.

      When I worked in the pediatric practice, some of the staff were infected by a vicious antibiotic resistent strain of TB. This is 20 years ago! Some of the patients were legal Vietnamese immigrants, who had been medically screened/cleared, but then the family was sheltering/harboring ILLEGAL friends and relatives who weren’t – and hence, the source of the infection. It was pretty scary. AND — this strain of antibiotic resistent TB infected staff even though they didn’t have the level and time of contact that the Red Book and the infectious disease team stated was necessary for transmission.

      The “experts” at most are better qualified theoriticians than the rest of us. That is ALL.

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    • 40 years ago, when I was in my Twenties, I was coughing so hard I was breaking ribs. I’d go to the doc, they’d tell me I had a broken rob, and give me codeine. Finally one of the places I went was the emergency room at Milwaukee General. They told me “Broken ribs, here’s some codeine.” They called me the next day, and asked if I could stop by. I did, and they locked me in their TB ward for more than 6 months. I lost everything I had! They finally figured out that I had a non-contagious strain of “Atypical” TB, that I’d probably caught gardening. They finally let me go, but I was on meds for more than another year.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        Seventeen years ago one of my daughters studied in Spain for a year when she was in college. She had a positive T.B. skin test while there but never came down with T.B. She did still have to take medicine for a very long time.

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  6. Centinel2012 says:

    Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:
    Occam’s Razor is usually the right answer!

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  7. AdukeLAXobserver says:

    Great, now we have the Fast and Tuberculosis scandal. Thanks Obozo!

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  8. RJ says:

    It doesn’t matter what these people have if one looks to a broader, more damaging perspective. The democrats have positioned themselves, with many republicans joining, as regular liars to the American people. This would suggest (for me) that they look upon us as mere dupes and slaves to their will and desires.

    It is an “imperial time” for America. This is contrary to our very essence and creation as a country. Call this a government evolution, much like what a business might experience in its life cycle. This is a juncture that is just beyond the apex (the high point) where it is all “downhill” now.

    As chef Gordon Ramsey has presented with his show “Kitchen Nightmares” time and time again, management has lost its way. Crisis intervention is required, right?

    Artesia is a little town known for its oil fields, not much more. The closest “hot spot” is Roswell, where thousands descend yearly to explore alien issues.

    See the humor? Recall those “aliens” were hidden from view in military buildings, surrounded by wire and guards.

    Our government and those who lead it have become very, very creepy from my perspective!

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  9. tc says:

    I think you are correct and it explains this very recent executive order –

    Obama executive order allows detention of Americans with respiratory diseases
    http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-executive-order-allows-detention-of-americans-with-respiratory-diseases

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  10. Sharon says:

    If it actually were a chicken pox outbreak there would be some kind of discussion/information providing the protocols being used to manage such an outbreak in view of tuberculosis possibly being present as well. They would be assuming followup interest on the info previously released re TB screening.

    Dealing appropriately with the presence of one of these outbreaks with the probability of some of the other being present,would be a newsworthy discussion on the health front…..if they weren’t lying.

    TB sanatoriums. Widespread disease. Lice all around. Quarantines. Lack of protection against widespread communicable disease.

    I don’t expect obama will be getting angry about this any time in the near future.

    But the VA thing is solved anyway – heard a couple of days ago that a bunch of money was provided to fix it. /sarc

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    • RJ says:

      The VA problem is not money, nor has it been for many decades. The problem resides (in my opinion) within the various “cultures” operating within the complex VA system. The primary focus should be on the health and care for those Veterans who come for treatment of problems that the VA system has declared ready to service. These operating cultures should be organized in such a manner that they work in harmony toward this prime goal of service. They don’t, haven’t and won’t till such exposures come to the fore and the American people can comprehend such realities.

      Till such a happening, the game will be to round up some promises of change, couple that with more dollars to be spent, and then the issue fades behind the ever descending curtain to be replaced with the “next act” for our entertainment.

      “Smoke and Mirrors” just may be this play’s title…

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      • benzy says:

        RJ, I can’t agree that the VA problem is not money. It IS about money, just not in the sense of not having money to treat patients. The VA problem is about the bonus money the administrators are paid (or not paid with “bad” statistics). So they “fudge” the numbers to make their wait times, etc. look much better than they really are… so that the administrators of that particular facility can still get their performance bonuses, even though they have not performed as required. Don’t think that the same type of thing won’t happen under Obamacare. As Winston Churchill once said, “There are three kinds of liars.. liars, damn liars and statisticians”.

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          The bonuses have to be stopped, now.

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        • RJ says:

          Benzy, what you discuss insofar as incentives for performance is in fact a part of the culture of “bureaucrats” who “administer” issues within the VA system. It is not the only “culture” within the VA system. Think “carrot and sticks” as motivational tools where one distributes monies to those who meet performance goals within a defined system of objectives. It is limited in its effectiveness and stagnant in relation to the overall dynamics energizing the VA system.

          For example: What if those young physicians/nurses who come to the VA healthcare units are infused with the reality that they are servicing men and women who have taken an oath to surrender his/her life for our country….immune system soldiers so to speak, and realize that these people are so important to medical treatments of all kinds and manner, that they are the “brothers and sisters” of medicine…partners in service?

          Attitude…responsibility, honor, duty, and country…meaning we respect life and seek to support its values.

          Who wouldn’t want to be a part of this kind of team?

          Imagine the energies that could be released to “help” all those who seek it!

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      • creeper00 says:

        You are entirely correct, RJ. mr. creeper receives his health care through the VA here in the Midwest. It is and always has been first-rate.j

        The problem isn’t money. It’s the administrators.

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    • ytz4mee says:

      Sure it is. My DH is working his way through the VA initial intake maze right now, and it’s, ahem, as the Marines say, a fusterclark.

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  11. auscitizenmom says:

    Sundance, I think you are right on.

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  12. 1harpazo says:

    This is why 0bama didn’t go to the border. He knows there is a great risk of contracting serious diseases. If only…………

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  13. SouthCentralPA says:

    Good catch. Not only is chicken pox more of a “child” disease. Also, many Americans are vaccinated against chicken pox and not so much for TB.

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    • rashomon says:

      Don’t forget that adults can get shingles, which is extremely painful, from the dormant chicken pox virus in their systems.

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      • Sam says:

        Ther’s a vaccine for that even if you had chicken pox as a kid. Most of us over 50 or so had chicken pox.

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        • Bettijo says:

          Have not verified this myself, but I was told by my doctor’s assistant that the Shingles vaccine costs over $200 and is not covered by insurance. Therefore, most of elderly cannot afford it, so we take our chances.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        I got shingles last August and it was horrible. I was sick through October.

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  14. “Are we being lied to?”
    😈
    “Was I briefed before the attack on Pearl?”

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  15. To quote Hillary Clinton, “At this point WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE”?

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  16. ron says:

    why are we Americans putting up with this corrupt government ? do they work for us or do they work for illegals? the illegals are getting what our vets are being refused. our money is being spent to destroy our nation from with in. its time some heads rolled and some trials take place.

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    • John Galt says:

      “why are we Americans putting up with this corrupt government ?”

      Good question. The usual process for legal immigration requires vaccinations, chest X-ray, TB test, physical examination by doctor to be performed in the prospective immigrant’s country of origin. Circumventing that process by the illegal mass importation of unscreened immigrants resulting in the spread of TB, chicken pox, lice, scabies, etc. to US citizens sounds to me like yet another impeachable offence.

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      • waltherppk says:

        Criminal negligence and dereliction and breach of duty that is such a blatant violation of the oath of office, and that rises to a felony because of culpability in the deaths that have occurred as a result, is absolutely an impeachable offense under the standard “high crimes and misdemeanors” where the term “high crimes” means any felony. Malfeasance, misfeasance, and non-feasance are all involved here so this isn’t even a difficult call that the probable cause exists and a prima facie case exists to bring criminal charges. The fact that has not occurred shows that the legal due process itself has been subverted by politics for which law and due process has become nullified. And by itself that is unconstitutional. There is no confidence can be placed in administration of justice when the administration is itself corrupt because of an absence of oath keepers.
        No one is watching or managing the store anymore because all the employees including the store manager are too busy looting the business. Who gets the bill? Taxpayers.

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      • Sharon says:

        “we Americans” are not “putting up with this corrupt government”….Congress has the authority and responsibility to stop them, and Congress is not stopping them.

        Who do they work for? Whoever is controlling them and has since before Christmas Eve, 2009. That’s who they work for. They sure don’t work for us – that’s been obvious for years.

        Yes, it’s time heads rolled and trials take place: most unfortunate for us, however, the people responsible to make that happen are ok with the present state of affairs.

        I’d say we have a problem.

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  17. maggiemoowho says:

    After hearing and reading about the signs and symptoms of Ebola, I can’t help but think they are using this quarantine to make sure these people aren’t infected with Ebola. It starts out like the flu and progresses from there. TB and chicken pox can be treated and also start with the same symptoms as do most viruses and disease. Could also be why they brought these two patients back into the US, they need to find a cure and knowing this Government they need something to fall back on or blame if all goes wrong and someone gets infected. The Doctor and Nurse will be Obamas fall guys. Sounds crazy, I know, but this administration is just that crazy.

    As for Ebola, did anyone watch the infected doctor walk into the hospital in his tent suit(he walked, which is a great sign), the people assisiting him and all had tent suits also, however, all the idiots who decided to go out and watch while standing next to the Ambulance DID NOT have those tent suits on. I have zero confidence that that hospital will be able to contain that virus. They couldn’t even contain their own employees from going out side and watching the show. Unbelievable.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      I have to faith in the either.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Correction: I have no faith in them, either. (Darn autocorrect. Oops, I don’t have autocorrect. I guess I have to take responsibility.)

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    • P.Spinach says:

      Remarkable, isn’t it? A complete lack of guiding intelligence. I’m surprise no one walked up to the doctor and asked for an autograph.

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    • Sharon says:

      The Doctor and Nurse will be Obamas fall guys.

      No matter how evil obama is, he actually doesn’t have power over every circumstance even if he could find a way to make it serve him. Even Satan is not God’s equal opposite but a lesser opposing force.

      obama’s minions can find ways to use unfortunate situations with an easily deceived audience but I am not going to go along with the idea that everything bad that happens in this world and this nation can be traced to obama. He’s just not all that.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        I agree with you, totally. But, I am amazed at how good his minions are at spinning it to his advantage.

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        • Sharon says:

          That’s only because so many people are willing to be deceived, either because it somewhat consciously suits their own purposes or because they are dependent on someone outside of themselves to always tell them what is so.

          Those whose hold on power depends on deception will always be able to find an audience willing to be deceived.

          I am not amazed at how good they are at what they do. Deception is a powerful commodity and it literally has spiritual origins anchored in the Father of Lies. Those who understand the power and reality of evil often overlook the effect of its power in its lesser forms…always looking for the pointed tail and horns. Satan comes as an angel of light.

          Evil is many things, but it is not stupid.

          I’m not amazed at their ability to deceive. Think of who the deceived are, and you won’t be either! 😉

          “The deceived” include those good Lutherans in Minnesota and Wisconsin who happily pour major portions of their giving into the coffers of Lutheran Social Services to support these deceptions. Those who are deceived, as often as not, are working people who wear clean clothes every day, eat three squares a day, whose children are – you well know – headed for the halls of higher education.

          I often use language regarding the business of deception in various threads – that’s not accidental or me trying to be cute.

          Deception is ultimately a killer – spiritually, nationally, personally, financially, physically – you name it. It’s ultimately, and intentionally, a killer.

          I have learned that lesson deeply and I’m dead serious when I address, from time to time, the danger of deception at any level.

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      • waltherppk says:

        How does anyone explain the involvement of Franklin Graham as lobbying for the transportation of the ebola infected missionaries to downtown Atlanta? I know that Franklin makes executive decisions that are above my pay grade, like paying himself a half million a year salary to operate Samaritan’s Purse. So maybe the humanitarian nuances of such altruism are likewise just too complex for me and my concerns simply reflect an ignorance about things I lack depth. It’s not that I don’t trust Jesus but maybe I have more than a little problem with some folks who may believe incorrectly that they speak for the Lord about things they just might be clueless.

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        • Sharon says:

          I don’t know that anyone explains the involvement of Franklin Graham. I haven’t heard anyone either defend it or explain it.

          I have never thought that Franklin Graham thinks he speaks for the Lord and I sure don’t assume he does.

          I assume that Christians in positions like the one he holds occasionally say or do things that are clueless. Been watching that particular phenomena most of my life and have learned not to over-expect.

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          • waltherppk says:

            The mission statement of Samaritan’s Purse is plainly enough Christian. And the two ebola infected missionaries are employees of Samaritan’s Purse. I know it is good for an employer, even one also self employed, to value and look after the well being of all their help generally. However, I could not help but notice the irony of the contrast for some aspects of that principle with a Christian mission statement, where a balance inevitably has to be struck between pure altruism that involves personally chosen selflessness and another aspect that must take into account how that proposition is only personally sacrificial, or is a proposition which expands exponentially and presumes upon and usurps the personal choice of others, and effectively makes the choice for others whether they agree or not. That is most definitely what has occurred here. And I would expect there are millions of citizens in America who have the same feeling of exception towards the ebola patients as did the citizens of Murietta, California have towards unwelcome visitors being brought there as an imposition that was a product of a decision by others. It isn’t that any of the citizens have any hate for the sick persons or wish them anything but to get well. The problem is the choice of location for their treatment and the way the decision which could be a great risk to others is a choice being made in a way that runs roughshod over the rights of the many to please the wishes of a few who are making the “executive decision”. The reasoning that is applied to justify this “executive decision” brings to mind bible verses like Proverbs 14:12, Proverbs 26:4, Proverbs 28:26, 1 Corinthians 3:19-20, Job 5:13 and others

            It really is making a huge imposition and carries a huge presumption that the general population should somehow just accept whatever they are told by their ostensibly more knowledgeable “betters” whether they like it or not, about anything at all, including risk analysis done about a dread disease being brought into the midst of a major population area that the experts “hope” and “believe” will be an “acceptable risk”. To me this does not seem to be either a rational or a Christian decision. However, what has been done is troubling and perplexing as a kind of reckless “grandstanding” for medical science that could be better and more safely done a much different way. I keep coming back to the question why shouldn’t such an endeavor to treat ebola be pursued at an isolated and remote location, instead of doing such “experimenting” in the middle of a large population, which still seems to be counter intuitive to me, and undermines my confidence in the validity of the “risk analysis” done by the same persons as would think this is a good idea. It isn’t a good idea, and I don’t hear any persuasive arguments that change my opinion about that. To me it seems like those who would school me are the ones that need to go back to school and learn some common sense, but then a person is either born with common sense or they don’t have it. I simply can’t shake that impression and generally my instincts about such things are 100% reliable.

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            • Sharon says:

              All good points. I was just responding to your statement:

              How does anyone explain the involvement of Franklin Graham as lobbying for the transportation of the ebola infected missionaries to downtown Atlanta?

              I don’t think anyone has or does.

              And, on the other hand, you have probably explained his involvement here as well as anyone could: mission creep.

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              • waltherppk says:

                Yeah that really does pretty well peg it what has occurred, but I missed that aspect because that expansion usually happens more often and with more reckless abandon with other tasked missions. I think people sometimes think too much with their hearts and not enough with their heads.

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      • partyzantski says:

        Sharon,
        Amen! Can I be your witness?
        I just can’t get with the program that they are that seamlessly competent, when all evidence points to the contrary. If they were so smooth, we’d not know anything.
        -Partyzantski

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  18. P.Spinach says:

    Yeah, so much for fleeing destitution in Honduras, El Salv and Mehico. Now all 600 of them quarantined together have untreatable TB for life. No amount of all-you-can eat meals and teddy bears will help justify this. Pox (or TB) on the Highest Criminal in Chief for bringing this to Americans and their children. Unfortunately, the liberals who voted for him have to learn their lesson the hard way.

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  19. partyzantski says:

    This story has a very possible outcome… note they record how many go into these centers, but does anyone have a record of any of them coming out of these centers, once in one and an “outbreak” of something or other happens?

    This scenario is short of few historic details, like an “Abiet Macht Frei” banner and towers of smoke. I would hope that the Regime is not calculating that some idiots are more useful than others.

    In other news, this may be a new definition for “human wave attack”.

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  20. P.Spinach says:

    On that note, I am big on Hippocrates advice, food is thy medicine. God created plants and tools for mankind to heal itself, accessible to everyone, for to do so is in Creation. Some of these elements are already in your cabinet. Pharma creates synthetic drugs which mimics plant and herbal activity, which work but result in unnatural side-effects. it is a voluntary trade-off. It would be wise to research findings on every supplement one chooses to take. Here are some options for lung health.

    http://www.undergroundhealth.com/15-plants-and-herbs-that-can-boost-lung-health-heal-respiratory-infections-and-even-repair-pulmonary-damage/

    Godspeed armor in the midst of a TB attack, minimize your visits to crowded venues, wear your disposable gloves discreetly, carry rubbing alcohol dispensers, feel free to give your gloves a wash with the mixture while wearing, and wash hands after wearing gloves too, buy some designer masks which match your clothing (no such thing but American entrepreneurism is grand). Go to Hell, Obama!

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  21. P.Spinach says:

    On that note, I am big on Hippocrates advice, food is thy medicine. God created plants and tools for mankind to heal itself, accessible to everyone, for to do so is in Creation. Some of these elements are already in your cabinet. Pharma creates synthetic drugs which mimics plant and herbal activity, which work but result in unnatural side-effects. it is a voluntary trade-off. It would be wise to research findings on every supplement one chooses to take. Here are some options for lung health.

    http://www.undergroundhealth.com/15-plants-and-herbs-that-can-boost-lung-health-heal-respiratory-infections-and-even-repair-pulmonary-damage/

    Cont’d

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  22. P.Spinach says:

    Help, mods! An important post of mine is lost in spam! Please retrieve, it is quite paragraphic with a link on health tips. We must fight back Obama’s “human wave attack” with simple tricks, which is all we have left at this moment, until further notice.

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  23. benzy says:

    To answer Sundance’s rhetorical question in the “headline” of the article….. this is being presented to the public by the same political organization which brought us a) Fast & Furious, b) Obamacare, c) the Obamacare website, d) Benghazi, e) the IRS targeting of conservative groups, f) Bundy Ranch (yeah, sure that was about desert tortoises!), g) the “unaccompanied minor” border crisis… of course, we’re being lied to, it’s what they do.

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    • waltherppk says:

      Ask the knower inside you if you are being conned and if the answer comes back yeah, then it is generally true that yeah you are being told lies. Everybody has a B.S. detector and when the alarms are going off it is usually a good indicator and not a false alarm.

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  24. arttart1983 says:

    (from Sundance’s link:)

    ‘All of the immigrants are being screened for health issues — and in many cases, it marks the first time they’ve ever seen a doctor,’ border officials and volunteers have told The Washington Times.

    Time/again we’ve been told how most of the kids have been vaccinated in all 3 countries even showing us w/charts displaying the %. I read an article yesterday in which Border Agents were complaining many of the “illegals” weren’t even familiar w/bathroom facilities NOR the importance of hygiene. Y U K !

    YUP ~ we’ve been lied to, if not for the Border Agents sharing information/facts, we’d know even less.

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    • partyzantski says:

      Maybe this is the socialized medicine that BHO was looking for? maybe one would be informed by what the co-pay is for these insurgent, illegal aliens. No copay? Where can Americans get summa dat?

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  25. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    “Are we being lied to?”

    I dunno. Are Obama’s lips moving?

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  26. So who will be held responsible when TB and other maladies come back into USA ?

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  27. P.Spinach says:

    Legal (non-political hack) mexican immigrants who waited a long time to get here and AWAY from their illegal brethren must be hopping mad too. Now they will get mixed into the same pot as criminal El Salvadoreans, Hondurans and Guats.

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