Oh Snap – Refugee Definition Change ? The NYT Reports Obama Admin Considering Direct Illegal Alien Transport from Central America To U.S.A…..

There is an article in the New York Times gaining attention because the Obama proposal outlined seems ridiculous:

NYT – Hoping to stem the recent surge of migrants at the Southwest border, the Obama administration is considering whether to allow hundreds of minors and young adults from Honduras into the United States without making the dangerous trek through Mexico, according to a draft of the proposal.

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If approved, the plan would direct the government to screen thousands of children and youths in Honduras to see if they can enter the United States as refugees or on emergency humanitarian grounds. It would be the first American refugee effort in a nation reachable by land to the United States, the White House said, putting the violence in Honduras on the level of humanitarian emergencies in Haiti and Vietnam, where such programs have been conducted in the past amid war and major crises.

Critics of the plan were quick to pounce, saying it appeared to redefine the legal definition of a refugee and would only increase the flow of migration to the United States. Administration officials said they believed the plan could be enacted through executive action, without congressional approval, as long as it did not increase the total number of refugees coming into the country. (read more)

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However, there might be an unusual reason for this consideration. The definition of “refugee” is internationally recognized and has specific constructs and expectations.  As Mark Kirkorian at the Center for Immigration Studies notes:.

The 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees includes this provision (my emphasis):

Article 31 – Refugees unlawfully in the country of refuge

1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.

That means that an illegal alien can’t be barred from applying for asylum simply because he snuck across the border or overstayed a visa. But as the bolded text notes, that’s only the case for the first safe country the refugee enters. He shouldn’t even be allowed to apply for asylum if he passed through other countries. Asylum is for people willing to go anywhere to get out of where they are; just as a drowning man doesn’t pick and choose among life preservers he sees in the water, a genuine asylum-seeker doesn’t pick and choose among countries.  (link)

Illegal aliens entering the U.S. have passed through Mexico.   According to historical and internationally accepted norms, Mexico would be the first -and only- country a traditional refugee would be allowed to claim asylum.  I strongly suggest reading the entire article at Mark Kirkorian’s blog to better understand HERE.

Another exceptional analysis of the entire construct is available at Refugee Resettlement Watch – HERE  <– highly recommended.

Redefining “refugee”, and simultaneously allowing applications for “asylum status” in the home country of the immigrant, appears to be the way a person who would desire to deconstruct the framework of global colonialism would operate.

Such a proposition would essentially lead to wildly open borders and a global community unbound by traditional national origins.    One would think it would only be advanced by severe liberals or people who hold no specific affection to the country of their own origin; what we used to call ‘travelers’.    Cultural support for such a proposal would need a world view petri dish to develop a virus of “non exceptionalism”.   Additionally, patriotism would necessarily need to be removed…. and… oh, sh!t…

… hey, wait a minute….  wha, ….what quote did I just read in the Washington Post two days ago?

…“But whether people see what’s happening in Ukraine, and Russia’s aggression towards its neighbors in the manner in which it’s financing and arming separatists; to what’s happened in Syria — the devastation that Assad has wrought on his own people; to the failure in Iraq for Sunni and Shia and Kurd to compromise — although we’re trying to see if we can put together a government that actually can function; to ongoing terrorist threats; to what’s happening in Israel and Gaza — part of peoples’ concern is just the sense that around the world the old order isn’t holding and we’re not quite yet to where we need to be in terms of a new order that’s based on a different set of principles, that’s based on a sense of common humanity, that’s based on economies that work for all people.” 

~ President Obama 7/23/14

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126 Responses to Oh Snap – Refugee Definition Change ? The NYT Reports Obama Admin Considering Direct Illegal Alien Transport from Central America To U.S.A…..

  1. Joel says:

    I guess the direct collapse of the United States is falling behind. They must (need) many more non-productive drones to hasten the demise of these United States.

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  2. lovemygirl says:

    Hopefully Yamamoto’s reported quote still applies “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”

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    • libby says:

      The difference between yamamoto and obambi is that the former actually had respect for our nation

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    • doodahdaze says:

      The US will fall without one shot being fired. You will wake up one day, scratch your head, and wonder. How could this have happened?

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      • TeddyOn20th says:

        I wonder this right now.

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        • Me too , on many issues, as we see the country delve further each day into what will become chaos. Our own government is creating a nightmare and obviously quite deliberately. I am not at all surprised by Obama, Holder and Jarret and crew , but what concerns me is that we now see that our congress is completely incompetent and impotent. The checks and balances are not working at all and Boehner and crew are completely worhtless and cowardly

          They are playing a game of spite and “watch me do it cause I can” very in your face and deliberate and all we can do is sit by and complain because they have written or tweeked the laws to chain us and put us in fear of their control mechanisms? All at my site in great detail for free !

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        • annieoakley says:

          So do I.

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      • Louisiana Lady says:

        Sadly, I have to agree. These blogs are great for moral support, but we have all talk and no action. Our elected Congressmen appear to be comatose (or complicit). Not good.

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      • SoonerBoomer says:

        The people paying attention will know what happen because we have been seeing it coming. But the people that weren’t paying attention will wonder what happen to our country.

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    • elvischupacabra says:

      Let me amend: “I fear that all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a burning desire to really get mean on Facebook.”

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      • That is about as accurate as it is . Most Americans are not capable or willing to do anything except complain and get fatter ? Sorry to say, but true . Just look around and tell me what you see ? A society of obese and lazy people , even the children, and all are spoiled with materialism to the point that they will give up their most basic liberties and rights for a new device or tattoo or whatever ?

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      • Old Hillbilly says:

        elvis: yeah, we’ll hashtag the Shiite out of em!

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  3. libby says:

    I am a refugee, but i cant go to the 12th richest country in the world (where my language is spoken), oh noze, i gotta go only to the richest country (where i can complain bitterly that my language isnt spoken and i can complain bitterly of racism).
    /S

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  4. doodahdaze says:

    The Hague Act…Mexico, El Salvador, and Guatemala are signatory to it. Honduras is not. It is the path to a certificate of citizenship. I wondered about this. Now I have the answer.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-administration-weighs-giving-honduran-children-refugee-status/

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  5. Aslan's Girl says:

    Wasn’t this the plan of that crazy TX congressmen with the weird name? I bet Obama’s doing it because Rick Perry called out the National Guard. Obama doesn’t want the invasion turned away and spoiled by that pesky Perry so Obama’s going to circumvent the border bother.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      This is not moonbatery. This is a vast hard left conspiracy. All working according to a plan. The main goal is turning undocumented democrats in to registered democrat votes. There can be no other explanation of the lunacy. There are 11 million democrat votes at stake. Enough to turn every Presidential Election in the future. Underlapping it all is the path to a certificate of citizenship.

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      • waltherppk says:

        Ruthless vigilantism against domestic enemies could result in a rapid population decline of useless eaters that would be beneficial to the republic in the same way as would a benefit be derived by a hotel infested with rats employing a vermin exterminator.

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      • Quite right it is all deliberate and now that Obama is lame D he will do all manner of insane deeds . The real question is what will congress do or not do ? And when or if the citizens will ever demand accountability or just mosey along like titheads or Jews being led to the chambers ? There is a better way for each of us.

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  6. Aslan's Girl says:

    Isn’t this a slap in the face of Honduras? Calling them so violent that they are the equivalent of Vietnam or Haiti or Cuba? Honduras has even come out to say that their crime rate is down…

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  7. So now America is sending a signal to Hondurans: “Don’t lift a finger, we’ll come to you. Just cry that you are a refuge.”

    Enough!

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    • doodahdaze says:

      $$$$ Honduras will get the big payoff. This is so transparent if only one looks at the rules. Honduras is not a Hague signatory.

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  8. doodahdaze says:

    Obama is working to turn Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala, in to a status of Cuban like countries. In this way the mass migration from these countries to the USA can use the rules and follow the same path to citizenship, and voting booth, and benefits, the Cubans did. If they become classified as refugees. Then all their illegal family members already here can piggyback. A truly vast conspiracy. Aided and abeted by the Bushies and RINOS. This did not happen overnight. Many lawyers and the right judges in the right places are needed. Plus the rules. There are many here among us who do not believe in US sovereingty. But a greater goal of a world government system. All neat, tidy, and legal. Kumbaya.

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Within this process, fear of results from the Cloward Piven principle could come into play, prompting those more to the right to agonize over financial solutions.but with Socialists firmly in control of the optics and the presentation of options, GOP types might eventually support the addition of Obama’s other “7 states”. Then the “blurring of borders” will shift to a complete eradication of old national borders, and the economic consortium established by NAFTA could be expanded into a new political entity uniting the old US with Canada, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras,, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama. (perhaps El Salvador will be assimilated by either Honduras or Guatemala and Belize by either Mexico or Guatemala)

      This is another one of Obama’s “Fundamental Changes” that could be his answer to the EU and whatever finally emerges on the African continent, and other parts of the world. It would be quite an exercise to attempt a prediction of what economic/political alliances will eventually “shake out.”

      What if this become a battle between a unified South American continent vs North America, for control of Central America? How will China’s surging economy shape what develops in Southeast Asia? What about India’s 1.24 billion people? Will the African continent eventually become a united Islamic entity, or will Socialists (there) build a more secular union? And with whom would such a union align?

      Yes, indeed, these are truly “interesting times.” And things are going to get a lot more “interesting” over the next 100 years because it’s pretty clear that the globalists have no intention of maintaining the status quo. Just like the “progressives” continually regroup to assault the US Constitution after each and every defeat, globalists continue to plot new strategies to achieve their goal of a single NWO. They will never give up.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Righto. If you have ever been to Europe, This is the goal here. Borders in name only, with a common currency. They even call it the Eurozone. We might be slated to eventually be the Amerozone. I can not make any sense if I start with the conclusion that we are not to be the Amerozone and analyze the facts at hand. However if I start with the conclusion we are going to end up as Amerozone it all makes perfect sense. The question is how long it will be. 20 years? Ahhh Dunno. I doubt in my lifetime left. By then the memory of a free sovereign USA will be gone and the results of the education system will be in place in the voting population. In 20 years most of the baby boom will be dead like Ophra wants, and with them the last memory of the free world. Those under 40 have no concept of it.

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      • Old Hillbilly says:

        LJP: Presto! nobama’s “57 states” materialize right before our eyes!

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        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          This idiot even wants to grant statehood to DC. No small wonder, since doing so would automatically add 2 Senators who would almost certainly be Dems.

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    • No question both Dems and Reps have pandered big time ! Now Obama simply puts it all on steroids ?

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  9. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    A couple of weeks ago I jokingly suggested that Obama should “go straight to the source” and just begin administering aid right in Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala. But that wouldn’t generate more Socialist votes, would it? So Obama has gone one better, and will import support for his Socialist Party directly into the US. I guess I was just thinking too “small.”

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  10. joshua says:

    The man is clearly totally nuts.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      If only he was. But no, he is not. He is on his mission and is doing well. Nothing less than US sovereignty is in play.

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    • Sharon says:

      BEFORE the election in 2008 he announced, very publicly, that (we) were “only days away from the fundamental transformation” of the nation.

      I believed him and it nearly made me ill..

      Too bad more people didn’t.

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      • Me too . I knew before he was elected he was a very dangerous psychopath and sociopath with a large dose of racial hatred. And guess what happened?

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      • annieoakley says:

        I knew what he was about too, from the very beginning. i did not know that the Republicans to a man are just as corrupt.

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        • The Reps have now proven themselves to be just as incompetent, stupid and cowardly. Our system has morphed into a giant criminal enterprise largely and congress is only concerned for themselves . Basically to maintain their own positions of power. There are few who are honest but they are the minority so do what you must to change that part ! The elites are pretty much all the same, doesn’t really matter which flavor lies and deception you prefer ?

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  11. michellc says:

    This goes deeper than just democrat voters, this is the take down of America. This is total destruction from within. This goes beyond Obama as well, the entire federal government along with congresspeople from both parties are enemies of the state. The sad thing is they have been for a good many years and this is the final leg of their journey imho.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Awareness is a terrible burden. But it does seem to be real as far as I can tell. I do not think there is help coming over the horizon. The demographics are bad. SAD. Self Assured Destruction. No solution only an outcome. The conspiracy kooks are being proved correct by real events it seems like. The rules seem to be in place for legal fundamental change. I do not even think that any Republican can be nominated that would affect the outcome. To be nominated is to toe the line.

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      • Menagerie says:

        There is no help on the horizon because the largest percentage of Americans are takers, not givers, and a huge percent of the rest are fat, lazy, and complacent in front of their televisions.

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        • doodahdaze says:

          It is what it is.

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        • BINGO ! a lot of people need to look in the mirror and see who the real enemy is ? And ask , why did we give it all away !

          It has taken quite a while but it is staring us right in the face and could not be more obvious today . As I said Obama has just pout it all on steroids and congress is impotent these days as well so it really is a combination of factors. Any society with weak people can be easily manipulated and controlled. We have grown weak and fat in every measure, and that only helps the maniacs succeed by making it all much easier.

          There is one thing that nobody here has mentioned that is also part of the equation ? That is outlier events and those are ever present all over the world and within our universe.

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    • Shibbity Boo says:

      “[T]he entire federal government along with congresspeople from both parties” are The State.

      “It is what it is.”

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  12. Sharon says:

    I wondered how long it would take. Wait until the the peeps in Guyana hear about this. And the Patagonians are gonna be ticked.

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  13. yadent says:

    According to the definition change of ‘refugee’, shouldn’t minors and family be able to leave, at government expense, violent places like Cook County, Ill. to secure places such as Marin County, CA ???? Come to think of it, why not send all Central American ‘refugees’ to Marin County. They have room and can surely afford to provide excellent accommodations……
    Until the FSA is adversely affected by the incoming human tide and certain privileged organizations cease to profit from said tide, nothing will change. Nothing. IMHO

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  14. stella says:

    Looking at the comments, it seems the Democrats at the NYT are restless.

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  15. Dixie Darling says:

    To what country, do you suppose, he is going to seek asylum after he has finished destroying ours? He better have plans to go somewhere…..like Siberia.

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  16. czarowniczy says:

    “…part of peoples’ concern is just the sense that around the world the old order isn’t holding and we’re not quite yet to where we need to be in terms of a new order that’s based on a different set of principles…” And Bush gets blasted for that silly little ‘new world order’ remark he made whilst the social engineers in DC are hip deep in actually making the changes and….crickets chirp.

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    • texan59 says:

      Little did people realize that XLI was just setting the table for Barry and he’s fillin’ up the wine glasses and layin’ down the main course. The sycophants are sittin’ around and waiting for dessert. Totally unaware that they ARE dessert. Mornin’ czar. 😉

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  17. vickie says:

    I guess the hard working American is the target. These poor central Americans will settle for a 300 sq. life style in a stack and pack city. Private property ownership and the single family home will be a thing of the past except for the ruling class of course. Rockefeller said, “I want workers, not thinkers”. First they must colapse the welfare system. Welfare queens are of no use as workers, nor are their kids. If you give these new invaders a free ride on the tax payers back they will take it with glee. Then the system colapes, the blacks go after the Latinos for derailing their mooching train, add in looting and murder of the middle class so they can steal and kill for their needs. They will kill each other off and us too……..population control, end of lazy give-me’s, end of the responsible work for a living group and all that’s left, Workers!

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  18. Shibbity Boo says:

    “One would think it would only be advanced by severe liberals or people who hold no specific affection to the country of their own origin; what we used to call ‘travelers’.”

    Or by those who view themselves of a class distinct from the apes around them, regardless of their own origin, location, or destination.

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  19. waltherppk says:

    What will be the means of population control applied for regulating this socially engineered “humanitarian” hispanic baby breeding farm, will there be an importation of predatory cannibals also to serve as a natural control that operates to counter the uncontrolled population growth of entire families of taxpayer subsidized prolific breeders of a half dozen to a dozen children each?
    The geometrical progression hispanic population growth that will occur is simple arithmetic. This “great society” hispanic genome mulitplication breeding plan is going to lead to a Malthusian catastrophe in not too many years, when there are more mouths to feed than there are taxpayer provided tacos and tamales possible to manufacture to fill them This will be like a swarm of locusts eating a wheat field. How is it humanitarian to deliberately engineer an easily foreseeable famine? There is a limit to the capacity of a lifeboat and some treading water must simply drown, or all will perish.

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    • You bring up an obvious question ? Is it all sustainable in perpetuity ? And the answer is obvious, no it is not. So there is an end game as you suggest .

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      • waltherppk says:

        One of the things Obama said in one of his “social justice” mentality commentaries about health care was the “unacceptabilty” of resource allocation involving health care that would have an outcome that is “Darwinian”. That is a classic rationalization for a bleeding heart who doesn’t seem to get it that about some things in life Darwin was absolutely right and completely rational in his more general observations. Liberals tend to get the “Darwin Award” when it comes to impractical schemes of “social engineering” seeking “social justice” that show their thinking has about as much depth as a bird bath. There is a real world that does not conform itself to anyone’s ideas of what it should be in order to be a kinder and gentler place more “socially just” place, than that place where what some would call “Darwinian” is going to predictably be the result anyway, as a matter of course, no matter what impractical interventions are done to change the natural order of things. Nature tends to take its course and there isn’t a whole lot can be done by any mortal trying to play God to change any of that.

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        • And worse yet , the so called progressive thinkers are creating all manner of hardships for many more people than they assume they are helping ? So in the end it all comes down to simply control mechanisms and no real compassion or anything of the sort That is just window dressing from the control freaks run amok.

          There is a way to avoid all the garbage and that is inside our own heads ? It is knowledge and understanding the many illusions we are all required to live in here in USSA today ! So it is really just about THINKING and then acting. That is knowledge and knowledge is our power !

          The more people we can wake up the better. There really is a better way .

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  20. Coast says:

    Somebody needs to stop this band of criminals. Yea, I’m talking about the Obama administration.

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    • waltherppk says:

      Yes that is true. Returning to the lifeboat analogy, if you are in a boat filled to capacity, and some feckless “leader” who is a bleeding heart says we must take more on board because it is the humane thing to do for those pitiful folks treading water….there won’t be any appeal to reason because there isn’t any reason there to which to appeal …..so you send that bleeding heart over the side to join them, and paddle away under new management of the lifeboat. Then you just might make it ashore to safety having just improved your chances.

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      • You seem to understand that we really do live in massive illusions and all are created for us as control mechanisms. Obamacare is just one of many examples present today. It is all about controlling you and your tax dollars to be used against you every second of everyday ! Understanding the many illusions is the key to defeating them and NOT being a victim of them. The illusions are our chains .

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  21. P.Spinach says:

    NO ONE took their land hundreds of years ago. North America DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM. North America NEVER DID BELONG TO THEM. They never lived there. The Indians did and they dwell amongst Americans and are given special American status. Guatemalans, Hondurans and El Salvadoreans had their own land. No American went down to their countries and told them how to divide up their countries. No American went to rule over their territories. Just because their ancestors lived in Central America DOES NOT MEAN THEY FOR SOME INSANE ARBITRARY REASON – THAT THEY OWN ALL OF AMERICAS. Do Hondurans tell Brazilians that Brazil is America and therefore THEIRS TOO?

    No.

    Liberals are idiots, they spout off illogic to satiate their desire to sound moral and high. Now it has come back to haunt them. All this white guilty, white privilege, America belonging to Central Americans and Mexico (WTF? Pardon my hispanic), and the rest of the bilge that spills forth from their lame minds.

    Directly importing these non-refugees and non-UACs will NOT STOP BORDER VIOLATIONS.

    America is what it is TODAY due to early settlors from Europe and Britain. What Honduras and their ilk government are saying is that they wished the settlors chose Central and South America to settle in so that they would benefit from welfare riches today. Black americans who came here by way of slavery should be counting their blessings today not hating whitey. Those Hollywood black americans especially like Spike Lee ought to shut the eff up (pardon my Swahili).

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  22. arttart1983 says:

    LOL, What ABOUT US legal citizens that may want to claim “refugee status” as they want the Gov. to PAY for their relocation to a safer city as they too want to flee gang violence in Chicago/Detroit or Harlem? An African American woman from Chicago has already ask “how can my kids get asylum & get their food/housing paid for?”

    Some poor people living in our own country can’t escape violence especially in Chicago through gang violence where innocent victims continue to catch fatal bullets while baking cookies w/their family or just watching TV in their homes. The violence continues to escalate despite the promises made by the “God father,” Rahm Emanuel to clean up the city, Emanuel has failed as the statistics show the violence escalating.

    Emanuel like J Jackson Sr. thinks Chicago is entitled to 2 billion dollars if Obama gets the 3.8 billion for “illegal kids: to re-vamp the crime ridden areas of Chicago.. imo, it would be cheaper to move families not affiliated w/gangs somewhere else & let the gangs remain to kill each other. I don’t think Chicago can be fixed by any amount of money, it has proven for years time/again it’s Politicians are too corrupt!

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    • P.Spinach says:

      Re: Chicago. Exactly.

      Obama and liberals have what’s called the anti-King Midas touch. Everything the Jerk in Chief touches turns into mayhem (Libya and the Middle East, Obamacare, etc) and murder (abortion). Obama specializes in human trafficking – buses, vans, institutions, school lunches, the sick and infirm to be sent to gas houses under the Affordable Care Act. The freak in chief is an absolute pestilence with his shadow over America spreading and darkening the cities straight out of a Hollywood movie. I hear the sounds of screaming as the shadow reaches over the liberals who voted for him.

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      • art tart1983 says:

        imo ~ the smarter liberals get it as many in Chicago’s African American community clearly understand as they shared in interviews showing those people know exactly what Obama is doing, their dodging bullets/gangs/hungry, but they clearly understand the “illegals kids” have been moved to the front of the food chain in entitlements,” they understand illegals will get more entitlements NOT even being born here, not contributing a freaking dime, & they understand their piece of the pie may get smaller.

        Many liberals, the low IQ bunch, haven’t gotten it yet, they don’t understand that EVERY American is going to pay for the illegals, EVEN them!

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    • I see chaos brewing and it is already in motion.

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  23. czarowniczy says:

    Cut out those middlemen, get ’em straight from the slums and streets of impoverished and fetid streets in the 3rd world to a voting precinct near you! Just like our schools where, if we can’t smarten up the lower classes to meet normal expectations for a civilized and educated people, we dumb the smart ones down – EQUALITY, one lowered IQ point at a time. Now, as we can’t seem to get that stubborn US national herd of helots to be financially successful by the sweat of their own brows, we’ll by G-Dd vote the welfare state in and drop it on the backs of the increasingly few in the working (as in actually PRODUCING goods) class.Viva el almuerzo gratis!!!!!!

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    • JudgyOnAWebsite says:

      Thank you guys SO much for addressing this part of the scam. I’ve been wondering about unintended consequences, and if those of us who are sane and therefore vehemently AGAINST this utter madness even matter in the scheme, or are we completely powerless? I don’t really understand if President Selfie (that was my FAVORITE of all the nicknames, although Stompy Feet is also gratifying and pretty darn funny) would want “our kind” deported elsewhere if he could do so, if he’s hoping we’ll self-deport as conditions continue to devolve, if we have ANY value being the little worker bees that we are, or if there are just not enough of us to cause him any problems–or maybe there ARE many of us, but he obviously has more and more ways of controlling us. (Greta had a Stossel segment on today where he brought up the frightening expansion of SWAT raids and overly armed cops. It’s all getting so confusing–I was raised to RESPECT cops, and now I can’t help questioning whether or not most of them are just hunky-dory with all this newfound power, or if there might be many silent subversives who are mad as hell too?!). When conspiracy theories start actually coming true, it’s like the villains have an extra weapon in gaslighting everyone, causing people to question their own sanity. I’m trying not to let it work on me, but wow–do “they” monitor websites like this?? Arrgh, it’s all so freaky & it’s making me tired!

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      • czarowniczy says:

        It’s all part of controlling the situation by controlling the language. It’s am Alinksy technique but he can’t claim credit, pols have been using it since the first caveperson (see how we do that?) said that killing the neighbors and taking over property was a ‘population adjustment’. As for deporting us, no, I seriously (if not with paranoia) believe that if Barack Hussein Obama II could he’d have every European descendent including the Useful Fools once he was done with them) in the country marched or thrown into a gulag or – probably more preferable in the long run – into an oven.
        Now the commercial’s over – howz this: the NYT in its report on the direct transfer of motor voters from the slums of Latin America to the voting booths near you, mentioned the prospective refugees would be interviewed by US personnel there to determine their suitability to be transported here. I imagine that a lot of the urban/suburban soccer moms who swim in magical thinking (denial) to settle their fears about being assaulted by our native urban thugs think they questions will be something like the skilled interrogators on a show like “CSI: Honduras” might ask. This would winnow out the thugs, feral gutter rats, drug cartel employees looking to expand their business bases, young kids being transported up here for the booming sex trade, all of those bad guys that make the city dwellers toss and turn at night. Reality is even if they were, and it’s very unlikely that any of them would be any better than the Fed employees you meet at the IRS, Social Security or DMV. In any event they will be interviewing THOUSANDS of volunteers and I will bet you that part of their job description will not say ‘must be fluent in Spanish with a Honduran accent’. Many Fed employees I’ve met whose job required a ‘knowledge’ of Spanish couldn’t effectively order off of a Taco Bell menu.
        Next up. even saying the interviewers gave a rat’s ass about determining the actual criminal backgrounds and/or potential criminal motives of these sweet, young waifs who want to come here to live the American Dream (cue patriotic music) how can we be sure that the Federal civil service interviewers, thousands of miles away from responsible adult oversight, aren’t winnowing the flock to find out which ones will vote and support the Leftist DemocRATic agenda? The Usual Suspects, after some 50 years of Federal largesse, still can’t be as effective as the original Quislings hoped they’d be – they gotta be a more betterer group of 5th columnists this time.
        The MSM isn’t all that happy about having to lie and keep its mouth shut about what’s going on but the alternative would be herds (OK, maybe 15% by the time you got the few injured minorities out to pick up a pen or free cell phone) of morally outraged Protected Persons clogging the networks’ phone lines. The Administration knows that by changing the wording (e.g., ‘illegal’ is now ‘undocumented and unaccompanied’, “alien'”is now ‘minor’ and ‘refugee’) you control the dialogue. The MSM’s more than happy to have something to report that won’t offend any Federally Protected Group, it makes the MSM look ‘on top of it’, it meets the Administrations need for the termite damage to be concealed until the structural damages are too severe for repair, and the soccer get to breathe a sigh of relief on their way to a double cappuccino frappe latte and a pedicure.
        It’s an oldie but still relevant – remember the bit about the captain of the Titanic, once the passengers felt the ship hot the berg, telling them “there was no danger nor need to worry, we’re just stopping to take on some ice” ?
        The only difference between paranoia and prescience is timing.

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        • I explain it all in great detail about PRAVDA/MSM which is the power of this regime . They can control all dialogue and narratives so they can control the masses who largely do not THINK ? Consider this, is our so-called media or journalism today any different than the propaganda machine of the Soviet state circa 1960s-70s ? Not a bit. They control exactly what you read , see and hear so they control all ideas and commentary . They can also ignore whatever they want like Benghazi, F&F, IRS, NSA , the Children scam and all the other crimes that have been committed against you and you family. It is far worse and much more powerful than simply calling it the left leaning media as most do ? Because that allows it to continue ! So again they control the narrative and dialogue to completely hose you and further their agendas !

          The simple truth is that we all really do live in massive illusions and all are created by PRAVDA/MSM to control you and your tax dollars to be used against you every second of everyday ! Wake up folks this is very real and very powerful. There is far more to it all ! If PRAVDA/MSM were to turn on the Obamaites all would change almost instantly, Ponder that ? because it is true and powerful. The key is to expose it all for what it is lies and propaganda ! That is what I do .

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          • czarowniczy says:

            I got to work with the ‘hearts and minds’ folk in Vietnam and later when they were brought into the Socom theater. They have their places and each side uses them, each individual has to decide which script s/he’ll play and them play to win.
            The Obama folk know that there are so many urban strip-city and suburban folks out there who have just enough time to live their lives and can’t manage to throw out any existing parts, especially to take on an uncomfortable reality. Instead they take to opiate of well-constructed lies and right up until reality comes up and sinks it huge teeth into their asses they can exist from day-to-day. I try to get the truth as I see it out there but there are far too many who close their eyes, put their hands over their ears and loudly do the ‘La La La La – I can’t heeeeaaaarrrrr you’ chant. At the very least it loosens up the arthritic fingers that irritate me.
            Back to teh ‘hearts and minds’: what I saw was the experts could only go so far in convincing the masses they were targeting to change their thought/belief patterns. At some point a catharsis was needed and some small measure of carefully scripted and targeted quality violence was needed to get the laggard’s attention. All goes back to: “When you’ve get ’em by the cajones their hearts and minds will follow’, and I’m afeared that our Dear and Gentle Leader may just be planning on that. I remember the VC political cadre lopping of arms, legs and heads to get the village’s attention, they worked quite well in Rwanda and sameo sameo with the armed proselytizing cadre of the Religion of Peace. As far as public opinion is concerned, let’s see who gets there firstest with the mostest.

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            • About all any of us can do is to try to inform others of what is real and stay abreast ourselves. It is no easy task with so many egos involved and that is why I setup and built my site as I did . To give people the real skinny and hopefully generate some THINKING process ? We really do live in massive illusions and all are simply control mechanisms to control YOU and your tax dollars to be used against you everyday !

              The other important issue is our health and fitness ! without those we don’t have much to work with. So I consider myself blessed and very thankful to be strong and healthy. and willing to pass on all the info to others fro free ! There are some secrets ? But anybody can do the same .

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              • czarowniczy says:

                Fear not, we’re getting help. Squirrels like Rep. Gutierrez are so used to playing community political theater to their captive audiences that they are getting lazy, They are speaking the truth where they people can hear it. While the little urban white mice are scurrying about hoping that the rats won’t steal their cheese can use magical thinking to convince themselves the latter day Jeremiahs are raving paranoids, they can only do it through so many of these slips of the tongue.
                You betcha staying healthy’s the best bet – we’ve seen Medicare go from a way for retirees who had no insurance to carry them through retirement to what’s looking a mandatory euthanasia program. During the Obamacare debates there was a lot of ‘finite levels of medical care’ and ‘inevitable rationing of medical care’ talk but everyone thought they were talking about the other guy: ‘don’t kill him, don’t kill me, kill that guy behind the tree’. For the second time in a year i went in for an MRI and the hospital billed Medicare $1400+ and got paid less that $200, how long’s a hospital gonna take that before they say ‘no more Medicare patients’?
                Medicare brings up a good government point: the big lies are that the government wants to take care of you (OK, ‘take care of you’ is a definitional thing) and that they can do it better than the free market. The lure that hides the hook is the government’s trying to convince you that if you don’t play the game their way they’ll let the evil system kill you – those hearts and minds fall right into step. Whoops, we’ve gone and wandered off into one of my favorite political bogs here.

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                • A good point, hopefully? One must wonder just when the insane theater turns into an absurdity that can no longer be maintained with the illusions !

                  PRAVDA/MSM is their source of power because they have been able to create and determine all dialogue and narratives for the masses. That is simply a form of mind control or mind effing the populace!

                  The good news is that many are realizing such because of sites like this one ! And mine. That are focused on informing the truth and exposing the illusions ! The article on the many forms of deception and sources of money for the so-called children at the border was excellent ! I linked it at my site. Because it had a lot of specific information that is critical for the masses to see to help them wake up a bit more ? Many are still NOT up to speed with what I would call the truth movement or perhaps the reality movement or the facts movement or ? Call it whatever you like ! The truth works, and we rarely we get that from PRAVDA/MSM that we are all entrapped in.

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  This will be a cultural death by suicide – the pathogens are here and will continue to flow, it’s up to the potential infectees to take charge of the situation or become a footnote in history. These scum have gotten to the point where their overconfidence has made them careless and those who refuse to believe what they see and hear are dead whether they believe it or not.
                  I believe that many of the Latino adults will make great Republicans – they are Christian, socially conservative and looking for America, not the place they just ran from. One of my military units was mostly Mexican and was mufti-generational. It had Mexicans who were Korean War POWs and stood the NK and Chinese torture rather than rollover on their country. I had Mexican military in my unit during Vietnam, they were there to fight in the war and get American citizenship as a result. They want to come here and be AMERICANS I have no qualms but if they want to be Mexicans in America, there I have a problem. They want to speak English – I’ll help pay for the classes; they want to have a mulch-lingual US, there I have a problem. They want to take land back under the Recoquista ideology and make a Mexamerica – BIG problem.As for the quislings who aib and abet the destruction of this country and the Constitution – look at the Declaration of Independence, it’s a lot shorter than the Constitution but is the foundation for the Constitution and the country as it stands.

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                • I completely agree they have become over confident to the point of arrogance and an absurd incompetence.

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  And it’s an overconfidence bred by the lack of response by most of those being…what’s a polite word here…’disrespected’.

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                • True enough , but it is probably too late to concern oneself with polite words in these matters ? That is likely part of the problem ? we have been to polite and too malleable ! We are now in a war for our country and polite is not gonna work or win ? But it will create exactly what the Jews did in the 1930s ? Nothing, except waiting until they were hauled off to the incinerators . HISTORY DOES NOT LIE, BUT PEOPLE DO .

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  I was sort of being a bit snarky there – my biggest fear isn’t the Israelis being lead off to the ovens (sorry folks, all politics is local) as much as it is OUR being led off to the ovens. I find it uncomfortable that the government spends so much time poo-pooing the racist chanting of black and Latino groups while rolling out the political and legal nukes if a white group dares too pen its mouth and question the administration of ‘equality’.

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  24. annieoakley says:

    Georgy Soros has been working for this moment all his life and he has plenty of helpers. He has said that he sees himself as a god. I see him telling Val Jar telling Brack what to do and how to do it. The bought out Media does whatever the old man says… I wonder how he will control everything?

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  25. woohoowee says:

    This one is OT, but related to the invasion.

    Both BCFS and BGCT (Baptist General Convention of Texas aka Texas Baptists) have a lobbyist:

    https://www.texastribune.org/library/data/lobbying/interest/

    Hmmm…

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  26. Sarah says:

    My 19yr old just told me about Pike. I had never hear of his stuff. In any event, do you think switzerland will come and get me as a refugee from this madness? I know not something to joke about. I feel I need to get out if something doesnt happen soon. I feel our spin downward getting faster

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  27. Sharon says:

    Appearing to favor a policy of appeasement over advocating for the rule of law, Speaker Boehner announced on Thursday that House Republicans would not be taking up measures to defund the president’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals policy (DACA).

    http://www.tpnn.com/2014/07/24/boehner-caves-to-obama-on-immigration/

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  28. CarolinaCowboy says:

    If we are to declare them “refugees” then we should put them in “refugees camps” like the rest of the world.

    http://carolinacowboy.wordpress.com/2014/07/15/1150/

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    • doodahdaze says:

      It is part of the vast left wing conspiracy. But the COC too. Everyone will get what they want except the conservatives. Boner and McConnel will moan. groan, and do nothing. The fix is in. Amnesty by hook or crook. In this case crook. Obamacare is fixed too. Next up, the illegals get to vote. By the Discombobulation Proclamation, coming soon from the King.

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