Chaos In Ukraine – Massive Fight Ongoing In Kiev – Government Forces Cracking Down – Opposition Forces Refusing to Yield..

At the time of this writing it is 1:10 am in Kiev. Reports now claim 18 civilian opposition protestors have been shot dead by police. The government appears to have fire-bombed the Headquarters of the opposition movement.  Things are spiraling toward slaughter:

Live Feed Report – HERE

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36 Responses to Chaos In Ukraine – Massive Fight Ongoing In Kiev – Government Forces Cracking Down – Opposition Forces Refusing to Yield..

  1. sundance says:

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    • nyetneetot says:

      I’ve noticed we hear about things in the US media about the Ukraine when there are pictures of horrible events, but while watching the Olympics on Russian TV we saw really scary, on the seen reports about riots in Turkey that looked just like this. Door to door fighting in other counties as well. Why is Ukraine important to be shown in the US media and not the others? I’m really beginning to question what is and isn’t reported in Western media. McCain calling for anything makes the hair stand on end. What are we not supposed to look at?

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      • cat says:

        Good questions. I have the same questions. I’m wondering if it’s a distraction from US problems at home? Or maybe it’s just to focus hatred against Russia since Putin has been looking like a good leader in the Syria backdown? Or maybe it’s just SA instructing the US to challange Russia? What are your thoughts?

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        • nyetneetot says:

          Well for example, to me the Olympic opening was shocking. We watched live on Russian TV over the internet. We actually started watching a few hours early. Reporters interviewed athletes, coaches, families, friends. Talked about the facilities, the history of the Olympics, history and origin of each sport.
          They even interviewed one American athlete, he was rude, said he didn’t care about what they wanted to ask him, he was there to win a metal. The Russians smiled to the Russian audience and translated ‘He said, “he wants to work hard win for his country”.
          The opening started. They talked about the girl, the well known Russian fairy tail she was acting out, her school, on and on.
          Then the teams started coming out.
          They talked about each country’s flag, the history of the flag, the history of each country, the team members, ages, names, sports, and how glad they could be there to compete. Then the video would go to the stands of each country’s leader would stand and wave to his team. Each team was given the same amount of time to get out of the doors and get to their standing area. When the US came out they talked about our history, our flag, and that “although president Obama could not be with the US team this evening he wishes us all to be safe.”
          Then the big show. Again, all the history was explained, the drawings used of St. Petersburg were the original city drawings from 1700’s, the music was explained, the best ballet dancers were brought in and how long and who under, etc.
          The part with the soviet period were from iconic MOVIES that all Russians know. The music came from each movie they were acting out.
          Then back to the girl and more of the fairy tail. More classic Russian music. The Russian announcers never shut up explaining every little detail, but they never said anything negative.
          Not one commercial was shown during the live broadcast or the replay the next morning.

          You know NBC was given a copy in English of everything explaining what was going on in the ceremony.

          NBC had 12 hours to edit it the way they wanted to present to the American public.

          Very little about the music, wild guesses about what was going on, then silence. Parts of the set reminded them of a used car balloon display. More silence. Putin controlling everything and how Putin was showing how they will rebuild and repopulate. Putin this and Putin that. Silence
          NBC mocked everything, and when the US team came out they had edited it to look like we took 10 extra minutes to get to our place and forced the remaining teams to wait.
          They cut a big chunk of the ceremony probably because they couldn’t figure out what to make up about it.

          The coverage of the sporting events has been the same way the whole time.

          I have no idea why we are being steered in one direction or another. It makes no sense to me at all why they would not present it the way it was.

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      • John Galt says:

        “McCain calling for anything makes the hair stand on end.”

        Maybe pimping for Goldman Sachs.

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  2. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    What a horror. I had hoped that their protest would not come down to this, but always suspected it would. Somehow I never believed that Viktor Yanukovych would give up his hold on the Ukraine. or acknowledge the will of the people.

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    • Trevor says:

      The neo-fascist scum holding their democratically elected government in Kiev hostage don’t reflect the will of the people anymore than the Occupy Wall St. rabble did two years ago.

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      • realitycheck says:

        Spoken like a true supporter of the Putin Puppet

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        • nyetneetot says:

          I’m not that sure it’s that simple. Someone a few weeks ago on here commented that historically the country has been divided between Ukrainians and Russians since WWII. That makes sense to me since our friends are on the Eastern side and they think the protesters (Western) are insane. The Ukrainians (W) say they want to be part of the EU, shopping jobs, etc. While the EU government wants to have them, from what I understand the EU citizens don’t share that desire. They feel there are to many people from countries like Romania, Moldova and so on that enter the EU and go straight on welfare as it is. Prostitution, running drugs, kidnappings, and hair stylists jobs have increased massively in the last 10 or so years involving immigrants coming from Eastern Europe. I do believe the protesters have been herded into what they are doing, just as they were herded into voting for the guy they are protesting now. “We thought he wasn’t going to be as bad as the last guy” is what I’ve heard said.

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          • elvischupacabra says:

            Bullsh*t. I have friends in Kiev, Poltava, Dnipropetrovsk and Kharkov. I know the country and see its vast differences from Russia. These folks are not Russia-lite.

            West of the river, is generally pro-western and nationalistic and east of the river, they tend to lean a bit more towards Russia. However, no Ukrainian forgets the horrors of the Great Starvation of the 1930s, the forced collectivization of the 1920s and the persecution/exile of the Kulaks. Everyone in that nation remembers that it was 10-12 million of their own countrymen who died at the hands of Lenin and Stalin.

            Recall that the last time the ruling party tried to steal an election, the people pulled off the Orange Revolution. Every time I am in Kiev, I marvel at the protests I see in the streets. Some are what we’d call trivial, while others embrace great causes. These are people who before 1992 would’ve been arrested for any protest. These are people who, as nationalist guerrillas, battled the Soviets until 1960. They embrace their own language. Their voter turnout hits the high-80s, low-90s. Ukraine will not be dragged back into the Russian Empire. This uprising is an attempt to move to the west and to rid the nation of its last vestiges of Russian-style mob corruption.

            This is a popular revolution. Even the countryside east of Dnieper is rising against the government. Even in Odessa and Sevastopol, both Russian “islands” in the pro-Russian Crimea have seen protests.

            Spend some time there. Go into the countryside. Know the people. Work alongside with them. Hear their passion and wonderment at how far they have come in such a few years. Hear how discontent they are being overshadowed by the Russian bear.

            Then, we’ll talk.

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            • nyetneetot says:

              Holy cow. I have to get some sleep out here on the West Coast, but give me a few hours to respond.

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            • realitycheck says:

              I totally agree and I have traveled Ukraine (not THE Ukraine and they will properly tell you) extensively as well.

              Putin calls them Little Russia, you never see the west calling them Little Germany do you? One of the most horrendous acts of genocide in history, The Holodomor, was perpetuated on Ukrainian people by the Soviets. This is the Holocaust we are not taught about. This is why the free people of Ukraine do NOT want their Russian masters ever again. http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4656-holodomor-the-secret-holocaust-in-ukraine

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            • nyetneetot says:

              Ok, we’re writing from different points of view. My wife, and her friends were good soviet kids whose parents were sent to be “overlords” in Moldova. So her circle of friends was different growing up and usually didn’t include the native peoples. Once Moldova started kicking out people who were not ethnically Moldovan, some moved to Moscow, some to the US, and some to Odessa.
              Rather than “Bullsh*t”, I’m just not hearing the same sentiments from people living in Ukraine as you are.

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              • realitycheck says:

                “My wife, and her friends were good soviet kids whose parents were sent to be “overlords” in Moldova”

                thats why our opinions are different. Your information is coming from the soviet rulers who always used Ukrainian people. Putin is still trying to keep ht true Ukrainians under his thumb.

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                • nyetneetot says:

                  Yes, that is absolutely the reason our opinions differ, but the kids (now adults) have nothing to do with Russia and Putin. They’re Ukrainian citizens.

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        …scum holding their democratically elected government in Kiev hostage don’t reflect the will of the people…

        I remember listening to people say the exact same thing when the protests started in Egypt, and Morsi was ousted. We know better now, don’t we?

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    • sundance says:

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    • Partyzant says:

      Sounds like a familiar tune.
      Is there any possibility the next election will be delayed here? The probability is not zero.

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  3. dsb steve says:

    I hope the protesters have a plan. If it is a rebellion they need to seize territory. Towns or entire provinces.

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  4. F.D.R. in Hell says:

    The protesters have a very pretty face to voice their position…

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  5. sundance says:

    A journalist working for a Venezuelan news outlet captured these images during the protests in Caracas, Venezuela, on February 12. The footage shows different scenes during the protests and it reflects the confusion that surrounded the events. At one point, men in uniforms start shooting at people out of camera view while people throw stones at the men in uniform. Strong noises of shots can be heard, along with shouts from the crowd. The next scene shows bloody images of one of the three people who died during the protests, although CNN has not been able to verify that the events happened in the order in which they are edited and cannot verify who caused the death. CNN reached out to the Venezuelan government to get reaction and is waiting for an answer. Viewer discretion is advised due to the images in this video.
    – jamunfer, CNN iReport producer

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1084627

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  6. Stormy says:

    … wars and rumors of wars… Matt 24:6

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  7. elvischupacabra says:

    From Kiev today, I got word that my friend Pavel’s son, Slava, was beaten pretty badly, and is suffering from exposure and a concussion. My friend who e-mailed me, also stated:

    “…but if we have also right of weapons like American people this terror on us would not be easily made. If peoples have no freely kept weapons how to guarantee freedom? Only just now we see what all America knows.”

    Well, Pavel, not all Americans.

    Pray for these brave folks.

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  8. Glen says:

    The Ukrainian government and its relationship with Russia is corrupt, to be sure, but what we have here is another George Soros, neo-conservative Russophobes, U.S. taxpayer, and EU funded “color” revolution. The equally – if not more – corrupt “forces of democracy” want to loot the Ukraine just like they did Latvia and Greece, and surround Russia with missile bases in violation of the U.S.’ agreement with Gorbachev.

    Compared to the Ukrainian government, I sincerely doubt that “our own” U.S. government would have shown the same restraint against grassroot conservative (meaning: white) protests against the Obama regime at this stage of the game.

    You may begin your research on the topic here:

    Washington Orchestrated Protests Are Destabilizing Ukraine
    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/12/washington-orchestrated-protests-destabilizing-ukraine/
    US NGO Uncovered in Ukraine Protests
    http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2014/01/07/us-ngo-uncovered-in-ukraine-protests/

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    • John Galt says:

      ” I sincerely doubt that “our own” U.S. government would have shown the same restraint against grassroot conservative (meaning: white) protests against the Obama regime at this stage of the game.”

      Throw bricks, firebombs, drive bulldozer through police line, kill cops and you will without any doubt get shot in the USA. Numerous innocent bystanders will also very likely be shot.

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    • nyetneetot says:

      I’ve always suspected we (the US) had teams over there adding fuel to the fire. Just as there are people from other countries here to do the same to us.

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  9. czarowniczy says:

    Hard to say who the snipers are – they aren’t appearing to be carrying the tatty old Dragunov rifle, more like the newer Orsis sniper rifle. As the Orsis is on the commercial market the Ukranian military/LEA could have purchased them, especially as they come in standard NATO calibers, but Spetsnaz/OMON wear disguises (includes other peoples’ uniforms) also – just ask Hafizullah Amin. Oh wait, you can’t, they killed him. Never mind.
    Russians aren’t going to let Kiev fall and most likely are putting the screws to the government – I’m betting the snipers are Ukrainian and are part of a plan to either dissuade the protestors or move things up a few notches to where the Ukrainian government asks Russia for help. Since Obama still on the sidelines hoping this thing ends one way or another before he has to make a real decision. As the Ukraine’s in Russia’s near-abroad, I don’t think will do much more than throw a hissy-fit and make some meaningless gestures towards Ukrainian government officials just as the EU has. What’s a few million EUROPEANS (wink wink, nudge nudge) to him?

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