Gay Boy Scout Participation Begins January 1st, 2014….

Were it not for the demands of the militant gay wing within the progressive caucus this Boy Scouting change would be of far less significance.    But… against the backdrop of recent events this change may just strike a more confrontational note.

However, that said, it seems obvious to me the storied ratcheting up of angst is just what the militant gays wants to happen.    There is no way all of these recent gender orientation events in the media could be considered *coincidental…..

[*I’m actually reluctant to post these continual media presentations because it might:  1.) just devolve into an anti-gay discussion, and 2.) play right into the intents of the media scripters.]

ASSOCIATED PRESS – The Boy Scouts of America will accept openly gay youths starting on New Year’s Day, a historic change that has prompted the BSA to ponder a host of potential complications – ranging from policies on tentmates and showers to whether Scouts can march in gay pride parades.

Yet despite their be-prepared approach, BSA leaders are rooting for the change to be a non-event, comparable to another New Year’s Day in 2000 when widespread fears of digital-clock chaos to start the new millennium proved unfounded.

“My hope is there will be the same effect this Jan. 1 as the Y2K scare,” said Brad Haddock, a BSA national executive board member who chairs the policy implementation committee. “It’s business as usual, nothing happens and we move forward.”

Some churches are dropping their sponsorship of Scout units because of the new policy and some families are switching to a new conservative alternative called Trail Life USA. But massive defections haven’t materialized and most major sponsors, including the Roman Catholic and Mormon churches, are maintaining ties.

“There hasn’t been a whole lot of fallout,” said Haddock, a lawyer from Wichita, Kan. “If a church said they wouldn’t work with us, we’d have a church right down the street say, `We’ll take the troop.'”

The new policy was approved in May, with support from 60 percent of the 1,400 voting members of the BSA’s National Council. The vote followed bitter nationwide debate, and was accompanied by an announcement that the BSA would continue to exclude openly gay adults from leadership positions.

Under the new membership policy, youths can no longer be barred from the Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts or coed Venturers program solely on the basis of sexual orientation. However, gay Scouts will face some limitations.  (continue reading)

It’s ironic that recently we were reviewing some of the Jon McNaughton artwork

McNaughton recently presented a piece of art directed toward the considerations of this outline:   “Sacred Fire


I recently painted a picture that has great meaning to a lot of people.

In 1913, the Boy Scouts of America joined together with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in a partnership that has lasted for 100 years.  I wanted to paint an image that for the first time reveals the relationship between Scouting and the Priesthood.

In the center is Baden Powell, the founder of the scouting movement. Around him are all the Presidents of the church in the Scout uniforms and awards they may have actually worn during those 100 years, gathered together in unity.

Each log represents the contributions of these men, as President Monson reaches out to lay his log on the fire.

It is not any ordinary fire; it illuminates, and it does not burn. The purpose of Scouting is not only to develop honorable young men, but to prepare valiant priesthood holders.

I hope you will feel the warmth of this painting and my invitation to gather around the fire; to contemplate the great purpose of the Boy Scouts of America.

Jon McNaughton a Patriotic Artist   (interactive version of artwork here)

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30 Responses to Gay Boy Scout Participation Begins January 1st, 2014….

  1. aprilyn43 says:

    Yes, this should become a sexual nightmare. The evil of homosexuality just keeps on coming


  2. justfactsplz says:

    I think I may vomit. The morality in America is running steadily downhill.


  3. Lou says:

    brings new meaning to don’t drop the soap


  4. PeruvianMom says:

    Pedophilia has now been determined to be a “sexual orientation,” according to the LA Times. Organizations like the boy scouts will have to accept 17 year olds who are attracted to 12 year olds. Now what? An orientation is just an attraction, not a behavior. So a pedophile can be open about his “sexual orientation” and force people to accept that.

    “Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia”


    • peachteachr says:

      This is the exact route that homosexuals followed. Pedophilia is now recognixed as a disorder by the newest edition of the DSM. I guess NAMBLA, National Association of Man/Boy Love Association, is estatic. The name always make me wonder what this looks like in South America and Asia. When I was younger I heard that they have to recruit because they can’t procreate. It’s a very slippery slope.


  5. Wizzum says:

    MY HOPE that it will be like the Y2K scare! My HOPE! This is children he is $%%^^&*(*ing hoping about…..My hope and my sincere prayer is that innocent children aren’t molested by predators taking advantage of this,


  6. Chance says:

    This is just another front on the “Long, slow march through our institutions.” All those who follow this evil path have gradualism as their most effective tool. They can pay lip service to all the “we won’t do or allow this to happen” crap they want to, but we all know where this is going to end up. With a sad heart I must now rebuke those who corrupt children and say that I will not support the BSA, any who enable or acquiesce to them, or any of their causes, period!


  7. Inkraven says:

    I’m wondering how the BSA reconciles this with the whole “morally straight” thing they’ve been at since their inception, given that their previous position is that homosexuals are not morally straight.


  8. MAB says:

    The Y2K rollover was a non-event, due to diligent planning and preparation in advance. Tons of computer code re-written and tons of regression testing.
    You cannot face a game-changer like this without *some* preparation.


    • stella says:

      That’s true. The planning and work of the IT community made it a non event.


    • TFred says:

      EXACTLY!! Millions of hours and billions of dollars were spent in preparation for Y2K. If that arduous preparation had not taken place, many, if not all of the speculated disasters WOULD have happened.

      This remark is one of the most ridiculous I’ve ever heard from a Boy Scout “leader.” Paraphrase: Let’s just stick our heads in the sand and hope for the best.

      Oh how that once-great organization has fallen.


  9. IFoundMyVoice says:

    You know, Girl Scout leaders are usually moms with daughters in the troop. But the established Girl Scout camps that girls attend for one week sessions used to have a preponderance of lesbian camp directors. I think parents of daughters need to know this, as the local Girl Scout troops and the area councils can be vastly different. I refused a job at a camp in Hendry County Florida one summer not just because I thought the director was gay but because she was creepy as well. Turns out she did things liie make the little girls stand behind their chairs at meals until all the kids arrived. Hot as heck but the kids couldn’t even drink water for ten or fifteen minutes until the late campers got there. This harsh woman was a Lutheran seminary student.
    Check into everything, parents. No matter what society trills it is YOUR child and YOUR values and YOUR comfort level.


  10. rovatek says:

    As an Arrow of Life recipient and Life Scout, I am thoroughly disgusted by this decision. The Boy Scouts are no longer one of my charities, all my donations will be going to the Salvation Army and Angels of Assisi.


  11. Sibyl S. says:

    The Scouts have changed. Planned Parenthood supplies propaganda urging Girl Scouts to become sexually active. No doubt, the homosexuals will try to influence the boys to do the same, experiment with each other.

    A friend of mine was in a scout troup with a homosexual scout master and they got into sexual activity on the camp outs. This changed these boys lives, even when they became men. Of course their fathers were not actively involved in the scouting program. None of that would happen if the dads were involved and gave their sons love and attention.

    Homosexuals groom and prey upon ‘fatherless’ emotionally vulnerable boys whose fathers are involved in the terrible As – Addiction/Alcoholism, Absence/Apathy (too busy, divorce, illness, prison, death), Abuse/Anger (conflict, contempt, violence in the home). These things make children needy, lonely, hungry for love and vulnerable to predators.


    • stella says:

      I think it is important to define the difference between a homosexual and a pedophile. While the latter may be the former, it is the rare homosexual who is also a pedophile. They are very different things.


      • Chance says:

        @stella; Please visit this link; The Top Ten Myths of Homosexuality. Myth No. 8: Homosexuals are no more likely to molest children that heterosexuals. Fact: The percentage of child sexual abuse in which men molest boys is many times higher that the percentage of adult males who are homosexual, and MOST men who molest boys self-identify as homosexual or bisexual.
        “If this myth were true, it would support the notion that homosexuals should be allowed to work with children as schoolteachers, Boy Scout leaders and Big Brothers or Big Sisters. However, it is not true. The research clearly shows that same-sex child sexual abuse (mostly men molesting boys) occurs at rates far higher, proportionally, than adult homosexual behavior, and it strongly suggests that many of those abusers are homosexual in their adult orientation as well.” Page 19, The Top Ten Myths About Homosexuality, Family Research Council.


        • stella says:

          Dear Chance,

          It is also true that men are much more frequently sexual molesters than women are, yet I do not presume that ALL men are sexual molesters. I have close relatives who are homosexuals, but are most definitely NOT pedophiles. It is an error of logic to presume, because some persons in a group are of a certain type, that all of them are of the same type.


          • Chance says:

            @stella; I’m not presuming any such thing, simply put the research clearly indicates that those who engage in homosexual behaviors are far more likely to engage in child molestation than are heterosexuals. That same research also clearly indicates that those who engage in homosexual behaviors were far more likely to have been molested as children than were heterosexuals.
            Just like many people today argue against using the proper and correct terms of perversion and deviance to describe homosexual acts, there are a growing number of those same people who are now beginning to insist that pedophilia is not wrong or harmful and may even be good for the children! This is the slippery slope of gradualism; what was once considered to be abhorrent behavior slowly becomes acceptable, first between consenting adults, then between adults and the children they’re RAPING!
            The logical progression of this kind of gradualism is that murder will become acceptable if the reason for it agrees with the prevailing school of thought i.e. people are just an arbitrary and accidental collection of biological/cellular material and of no particular importance or significance in and of themselves. This belief is already held by most communist, fabian socialist, those who believe in eugenics etc. and is responsible for the mass extermination of perhaps as many as 250 MILLION PEOPLE in just the last 100 years.
            In my humble opinion, allowing homosexuals to be responsible for our children is like letting the fox guard the hen house, and the results will be just as predictable!


            • stella says:

              I am not interested in statistics, but in individuals. The only child molesters I have known are men – heterosexual men molesting young girls. Should I then say that young girls should never be taught by men? Perhaps I should, particularly if I follow your method of reasoning. I daresay there are more of the kind of molesters that I am personally familiar with than the kind you describe.


              • Chance says:

                @stella; According to the best studies available, MOST child molester are homosexual or bisexual by there own definition! Sorry if this well researched and documented fact conflicts with your personal views, but your statement that, “…it is the rare homosexual who is also a pedophile” is simply false. In point of fact, the MAJORITY of pedophiles are homosexuals/bisexuals! As I believe that homosexual acts are sinful, I also believe they can and often do lead to even more egregious behaviors like raping children. Sin begets sin, “Alas, how one sin leads to another, and like flames of fire, spreads desolation in every direction!” – Sermon by A. Fuller.


                • stella says:

                  Do you not understand logic? The inverse of the statement, “the majority of pedophiles are homosexuals/bisexuals”, even if true, does not mean that the inverse is true: “the majority of homosexuals are pedophiles”. I believe I already said that I agree with you about homosexual acts. I don’t believe that they OFTEN lead to behaviors like raping children. That is inflammatory and has no basis in fact. As for the majority of pedophiles being homosexuals/bisexuals – I plainly don’t believe that is true. Just based on the population and the small percentage of homosexuals, it doesn’t make sense.


  12. IFoundMyVoice says:

    The thing that keeps gnawing at me is why they bring sex into Scouting anyway? Whether one identifies as straight or gay, why isn’t it a personal, undisclosed matter? Gay people say it is not just the ACT but when you get right down to it, it IS the act. Adults shouldn’t be advertising with whom they sleep and kids don’t need to pass the talking stick and say whether they like girls or boys.

    One’s adolescent sexual feelings are best for the parents to discuss with a kid and if that isn’t possible, clergy, guidance counselors or the pediatrician.

    Our “sexual identity” isn’t fashion, or politics, or enrichment or a “statement.” it is about our private lives behind closed doors, something that should be nobody’s business and CERTAINLY not a topic for kids or teens to know about.

    When did we all have to start broadcasting our intimate lives and worse, have to have them validated? I long for the days when EVERYONE was in the closet. One simply did not talk about private things like sex. Today, with bookstore shelves full of color text books explaining every bit of genitalia to casual discussions about how one “sees” the world as a “tri-gendered-emotionally neutered male with female aspirations and mute transgender overtones,” to every hormone based thought or utterance demanding “protection under the law” it bugs the heck out of me.

    If it is “MY BODY, MY CHOICES” then why do you have to paint it on a sign and strut in front of the chicken restaurant? Trying for shock value is something teens used to grow out of. Now it is part of cultural identity. Tom doesn’t just WANT to marry four men and live as a nudist, he wants you to explain to your four year old why Billy has five daddies and none of them wear britches.



  13. Jessica says:

    “I’m actually reluctant to post these continual media presentations because it might: 1.) just devolve into an anti-gay discussion”

    Once again, you’re the prophet, Sundance . . .


  14. IFoundMyVoice says:

    And I hate that that anti gay post quoted mine. It isn’t gay folks rovatek, it is the idea that even groups and activities designed specifically for kids have sex of even the Biblical kind introduced into it. Scouts traditionally learned skills and values. The very personal stuff has no place there.


  15. talkaftercarefulthought says:

    as I watch all of this I wonder, “will there be a gross miscalculation from the progressives with a particular social issue” will they find something so out of step with a civilized society (if we are one) that the pushback starts an avalanche of reclaiming our sanity? Or is our A.D.D. /short term memory society make us perfect targets for the left’s “long game”? Evertime a map of states that have accepted “gay marriage” is, gleefully, flashed on-screen with another state added or an Abortion Barbie is touted as a hero while a Senator who wants to save a huge sector of our economy from a bad law is called a villian. Well I have to wonder if our goose is cooked although is appears by slow cooker and not convection oven.. done is done no matter how long it takes to get there..


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