Sunday Open Thread – December 30th

Tomb of the Unknown ChristmasOur Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †


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61 Responses to Sunday Open Thread – December 30th

    • Josh says:

      All families in Israel have a gas mask for each member of the family. Full enclosures are used for babies.


      • czarowniczy says:

        I have a full-crib baby NBC enclosure from Russia. Ironic how the Russians built these and handed them out to protect their babies against an NBC attack from the West while providing the Muslims the materials necessary to make an NBC attack against Israel. ситуационной этики


    • waltherppk says:


      The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
      Thomas Jefferson


    • waltherppk says:

      I posted this in the thread yesterday related to Michelle’s comments in response to jordan2222 about the “legalese” language which has been so misconstrued by the “gun control” (second amendment prohibitionists) LIARS and subversives, you know the type who are not oath keepers but are fifth column subversives and present day “counter revolutionaries” with respect to the premises for the American Revolution. I am reposting this here because it is important we all understand exactly what the second amendment means, absent any equivocation or deceit about the matter.

      Noah Webster understood the importance of the 2nd Amendment
      “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost
      every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.” –Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 1787
      related quotes source unknown:
      “An armed populace are citizens. An unarmed populace are subjects.”

      “A Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner. A Republic is two wolves and a well-armed sheep deciding what to have for dinner.”

      Noah Webster was known as the “Father of American Scholarship and Education,” Webster defined all the words in the Second Amendment. He published “A Compendious Dictionary of the English Language” in 1806 and “An American Dictionary of the English Language,” published in 1828 and adopted by Congress as the American standard.

      Here are the words of the second amendment followed by the OFFICIAL dictionary analysis of those words meaning according to the meaning of the words as understood by LITERATE persons of that time AND as still understood by LITERATE persons today. Ignoramuses and LIARS may attach whatever meaning they like, as can tyrants and subversives, however this would be the correct and HONEST meaning of the words according to the language expert who wrote the OFFICIAL standard AMERICAN dictionary of the time. Plainly enough the proponents of “gun control” are illiterate fools and/or subversives who either need to learn to read and write and to get a dictionary. and/or they already understand and need to have a dictionary shoved down their throat by someone who can read and write and who fully well does understand the legal nature of the RIGHT recognized and protected by the second amendment which is a part of the constitution that is the supreme law of the land.

      The Second Amendment states, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

      According to Webster for the meaning of words pertinent to understanding the second amendment with accuracy and specificity the following is applicable:

      “People” were “the commonality, as distinct from men of rank,” and “right” was “just claim; immunity; privilege.” “All men have a right to secure enjoyment of life, personal safety, liberty and property,” he wrote.

      Thus in the language of Webster’s time, “the people” meant individuals and individuals have “rights.”

      “Keep” was defined as “To hold; to retain one’s power or possession; not to lose or part with … To have in custody for security or preservation”; “Bear” as “to carry” or “to wear; name; to bear arms in a coat”; and “Arms” were defined as “weapons of offense, or armor for defense and protection of the body.”

      Only civilians would “bear arms in a coat” — soldiers carried muskets in their hands, while officers carried pistols in holsters.

      So the words “keep and bear arms” suggest a right to hand-held arms as a person could “bear,” such as muskets, pistols and swords, but not cannon and heavy ordnance that a person could not carry.

      “Infringe” was defined by Webster as “to violate, either positively by contravention, or negatively by non-fulfillment or neglect of performance.”

      “Militia” was defined as “able bodied men organized into companies, regiments and brigades, with officers … and required by law to attend military exercises on certain days only, but at other times left to pursue their usual occupations” and “regulated” as “subject to rules or restrictions.” A well-regulated militia consisted of civilians, not soldiers.

      What about the phrase “being necessary to the security of a free State?”

      “Necessary” was defined as “that must be; that cannot be otherwise; indispensably requisite”; “Security” as “protection; effectual defense or safety from danger of any kind…” and “free” as “In government, not enslaved; not in a state of vassalage or dependence; subject only to fixed laws, made by consent, and to a regular administration of such laws; not subject to arbitrary will of a sovereign or lord.”

      “State” was defined as “A political body, or body politic; the whole body of people united under one government, whatever may be the form of government… .” A free state, we must conclude encompasses the entire body politic.

      During most of our history, an exhaustive analysis of the Second Amendment would never have been necessary. The meaning of each word would have been obvious to citizens of the time.

      It was only in the late 20th century that an Orwellian view of the Second Amendment gained currency. Within this distorted language prism, “the people” would come to mean the states or state-conscripted militia; “right” would mean governmental power; “keep” would no longer entail custody for security or preservation; “bear” would not mean carry; “arms” would not include ordinary handguns and rifles, and “infringe” would not include prohibition.

      The Founders worded the Second Amendment in an easy-to-understand manner. Individuals have a right to have arms in their houses and to carry them for protection, and the government may not violate that right. My note: ( What is the source I can’t recall but I have seen it stated that it was the founders’ deliberate intent that the wording chose to be used in writing the entire constitution was plain enough and simple enough language that any literate person having a fifth grade education could understand it and it would not be easily subject to subversion of its clear meaning by any deceivers for reason of its simple language ) Clearly we have seen many lawyers and lawmakers and judges who need to repeat the fifth grade.

      Modern contortions of language can’t change that meaning because we can still refer to Noah Webster.

      excerpted and my comments added to source material from:

      Stephen P. Halbrook, an attorney and research fellow at the Independent Institute in Oakland, Calif. (, is author of “The Founders’ Second Amendment: Origins the Right to Bear Arms.”


  1. Arkindole says:

    A painless way to spam your politician.

    A sample boilerplate message


    Due to the recent events at Sandy Hook elementary school we now face renewed threats to our Constitutional rights. While I understand how painful the loss must be for those touched by this tragedy, blaming firearms or their owners and punishing them is not the answer to the challenges we face as a nation.

    We already have laws that were violated by a man who was likely psychotic and heavily medicated. This man was stopped by the mandatory background check from purchasing firearms. He then decided to murder his mother and take her legally owned firearms to commit this tragedy.

    If your true goal is to protect our children, then enact legislation that will do that. Banning firearms that are rarely used in crime (less than 1% of the time) is not going to stop such tragedies, that was proven in 1999 when the Columbine shooting took place under the 1994 ban. Do something meaningful, please. Make committing the insane easier. Put armed security guards in our schools. But do not strip us of our rights and property by passing additional anti-gun laws that have historically had no positive effect on crime in our nation or others.

    Thank you.


    • WeeWeed says:

      An excellent start! 🙂


    • howie says:

      Logic does not work with them. I think Obama is planning to do away with legal guns entirely. All guns will be illegal. How he gets there ahh dunno. But no mistake it is his goal, among others such as the abolishment of the constitution. I think this is the issue. The rest is just babble. The constitution is not compatible with a communist government. A collectivist police state run by thousands of Bloomberg’s. What a nightmare. He clearly has the votes to do it. The tipping point is here. The only way I think they can be stopped is by lack of funding. That would be the job of the GOP in the house. But with Boner collaborating I don’t bet the ranch on it. Robert’s the Bush addition to SCOTUS is looking like a Souter clone.


    • stellap says:

      Done! Thanks for the link.


  2. Arkindole says:

    Very interesting — Gannett Co., Inc. (parent-The Journal News) operates
    (parent-Mil Publications)
    And, you can see the entire set of tentacles
    Love that phrase “We Reach Government”


  3. czarowniczy says:

    Yesterday black groups in New Orleans held their 2nd annual Stop the Violence March. This isn’t the only march of this type held in the city but this one marks the shooting death of a local rapper. An overwhelmingly black crowd marched through the old B.W.Cooper housing project to a Baptist church on MLK Blvd. Along the way news cameras caught them talking about the unacceptable numbers of deaths of blacks through GUN violence, their community being torn apart by GUN violence, their lives being shattered by GUIN violence – it was all about GUN violence. Ahhhh, no BLACK violence, no blame on the black males and, increasingly females, who commit this violence, it’s the GUNS fault, if there were no guns their community would be the pastoral settings they enjoyed in the Old Country before the Europeans tore their idyllic world apart. You could blame part of the problem on the fact that for generations many have lived an entitlement lifestyle and have lost the ability to live an independent life, they are waiting for the government to solve yet another of their myriad of problems, but that still leaves the question of why they refuse to blame members of their own group for the 200-or-more black murders we have reported each year. It’s not the gun’s fault, the gun didn’t point itself at the target and pull its own trigger. The 1-year old shot a few weeks back was featured at this march, a black child accidentally shot by a black thug who was hosing-down some brother who’d dissed him some way or another. This pervasive black mentality that they have the right to be poppin’ a cap in da ass of summun who be dissin’ ’em is going a large way to making the rest of us lose our gun rights. How much of the gun violence in major cities is white-on-white or whit-on-minority shooting? Doesn’t matter, the press won’t play the minority blame game regardless of how guilty they are. A white kid shoots up an elementary school in Connecticut and it’s national news for weeks. A black thug in New Orleans hoses down a children’s birthday party with his AK or Latino gangs use their AKs in Texas or California urban areas to do drive-bys and – crickets chirping. Solution? Punish the law-abiding white gun owners equally with the bad guys.
    To me it’s not only the issue of gun crime rates in major urban areas that already have gun control laws but the fact that the justice organizations in the country feel that eliminating guns from legal owners will somehow stop the same illegal users who flaunted the laws before from doing it again. There are multiple sources overseas who’ll fill the void, leaving law-abiding citizens here unarmed and the same thugs who illegally possessed guns before to illegally possess them again, just at a higher price. We’ll show our acceptance of inclusiveness by punishing the innocent right along with the guilty and philosophically accept a slightly lower minority-based gun violence rate as ‘improvement’.


  4. stellap says:

    Here’s a shooting incident that took place in San Antonio just before Sandy Hook. In this case an off-duty officer stopped the shooter. Of course, nobody hears about it, because he wasn’t able to kill multiple innocent persons.


    • allhail2 says:

      Had a great time at the movies with my wife and the kiddos last night. “Parental Guidance” is pretty funny. Everybody with ma/pa inlaws has been there done that. The theatre had cute little “please refrain from” signs here and there. One “refrain from” item had a picture of a revolver with the circle and slash through it. It even went on to say no conceal carry allowed. Oh, boy, did I sure go running out to the truck to put it back (snark),
      My wife saw the sign and giggled. By default of me being in that particular theatre, my family and those in that room were the safest in the building.

      “Gun free zones” = Target rich environment


  5. 22tula says:

    “Is Gun Control the Answer?” Guest: Larry Pratt
    Crosstalk – December 27, 2012


  6. 22tula says:

    “Piers Morgan: I’ll Deport Myself If America Doesn’t Change Its Guns Laws…”
    Weasel Zippers – December 29, 2012

    Where will you go Piers? Marbella?


    • czarowniczy says:

      Sounds like a ‘win-win’ to me

      We have a snotty British columnist in our local news paper. He, as with many other Brit ex-pats, spends his time whining about how uncivilized we Americans are as compared to the mythical England he dumped. If these Brit exports want Britain than why not go back instead of trying to create an idyllic but unrealistic GB Disneyland here? We rejected the Brit model in 1776 – apparently either no one told them or they don’t believe we are serious. The local Brit ex-pats hold a frequent high-tea here where they get together and play House of Lords. We used to be called upon to provide security for the Daughters of the British Empire meetings, protecting them from the bloody wogs they defend so heartily. Apparently you can take the snotty Brit out of the Empire but you can’t take the Empirical behavior out of the snotty Brit.


    • 22tula says:

      The Russian Mafia – Spring 2001

      Fast & Furious Arming the Enemy

      Saving the Republic


      Flip Flop


  7. stellap says:

    Some good news among all the bad:

    Late yesterday afternoon, the Seventh Circuit granted an emergency injunction against the HHS mandate — preventing its enforcement against an Illinois business and its owners. My colleagues at the ACLJ represent Korte & Luitjohan Contractors, Inc., a family-owned, full-service construction contractor. The company is located in Highland, Ill., and employs about 90 workers.


  8. allhail2 says:

    Oh goody. With a debt limit fight coming barryO pull this out of his arse


  9. Josh says:

    I keep thinking that, if nothing else, we are The Watchers. If we cannot, or simply care not to, truly get involved we can, at least, watch … and document. Start a journal or diary of events. If you see an article of interest, print it and keep it. Our history is being altered every day. What you see in print one day may not be there the next. Obtain a box (or trunk) for articles. Begin a Time Capsule of your own. Many schools have the texts they use on media that can be changed in the blink of an eye. It is nice to read stories of people’s lives, how they lived, what shaped them ie: many of Sharon’s writings.

    One story that stays with me is that of a young woman who obtained the belongings of an elderly relative of hers (an aunt, I think) that had passed away while in a nursing home. All that the elderly woman owned was in a single paper bag. The elderly woman had lived somewhere in the west on a farm far from neighbors. Often she was alone. Her husband would be out farming and the children would be with him or at school. For years though the elderly woman did have a companion – a little song bird. She adored the little song bird. During her life she (as we all do) had to whittle down her possessions. Think about it. She and her family owned a farm so they had the house, furniture, a barn, animals, farming equipment… They eventually had to sell the farm and move to a smaller dwelling unit. The husband passed away. More possessions left. The woman ended up in a nursing home and really had to “lighten her load”. In the paper bag, the young woman found a little box. Upon opening it she found the remains of the little song bird. That elderly woman so cherished that little song bird that of all her possessions that she had to let go the little song bird was not one of them. There is something about this story that makes it often pop into my brain.

    The point of my disjointed ramblings is, if nothing else, be a Watcher … and document.


    • Sharon says:

      Josh, this is such a thoughtful piece comment (is what I meant to say!)…we can all be watchers and documenters. That is actually part of my purpose in the MBOBs. The original reason for starting my own blog site (which I haven’t done much on recently) was to document family stories, family heritage and all the places of the heart. So important.

      And look what I found at PJM this morning…Michael Ledeen writes some tribute to writers who did an amazing job of watching and documenting during the evening years of the Soviet Union…

      Read the comments thread as well…there are some other references there that are valuable. Good stuff.


  10. cajunkelly says:

    The replies to the article are better than the original tweets! 🙂


    • howie says:

      The ignorance of the Americans at this point bode ill. They don’t seem able to muster enough interest to inform themselves. If they did it would be an instant uprising.


    • Sharon says:

      That’s good information. Isn’t it a nightmare–the level of functional illiteracy in this country of ours. We’ve got a bunch of people in the last 2 generations who can’t read. Then we’ve got a bunch from all generations who can read, but can’t be bothered to think. And then, the nightmare babies from amongst the left who both read and think–but what they think about is how to destroy freedom, how to take from us the unalienable rights given to us by our Creator.

      We thought of this often during the years we lived in SoCal. Any map of CA illustrates that there are actually only 4-5 major highways that can get a person out of that area, all of them passing through major desert areas. I-5 north is the least problematic that way, but those vast areas of the San Joaquin valley…I’m not thinking the folks in Bakersfield really want all of Los Angeles on their doorstep. Anyway, we were very, very aware of the isolation as far as groceries, fuel, etc. When an earthquake takes the freeways down, things stop pretty quickly….and that’s nothing compared to what will happen with an EMP….good information.


    • stellap says:

      This reminds me of the survivalist from Serbia – I’ll see if I can find the link.


  11. 22tula says:

    Bill Warner “Political Islam” – Part 5
    Bill Clinton/Catholic Charities/Faith Based Initiatives

    Refugee Resettlement Watch – Catholic Charities

    Pass the Salt – Alan Keyes
    Notre Dame University – May 9, 2009

    President Obama Georgetown University – April 14, 2009

    Michael Savage – Georgetown University – April 17, 2009

    “Georgetown Says It Covered Over Name Of Jesus To Comply With White House Request”
    CNS News – May 7, 2012


  12. 22tula says:

    Ann Barnhardt Schools Cardinal Dolan
    Article via – Free Republic – August 16, 2012
    see Cardinal Dolan video

    Ann Barnhardt Vendee – 1/4


    • 22tula says:

      Bill Warner “Political Islam” Part 3

      Gideon’s Army

      @21:19 ” President Obama, My Heart Sank when I heard him in the UN say that, in his recent speech in the UN, The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. My Heart Sank because We Apostates in America, we thought we lived in America under Our Constitution. But this statement from our President, has made sharia legitimate. I’m very scared for myself, when Obama said that. I was very scared for my security, because the President of the United States called me a slanderer of the prophet Muhammad, because I left Islam. And I must never dare slander. Only they can slander. ” – Norie Darwish
      ECI: Ex-Muslims & Critics of Islam at UCI.
      “Freedom of Speech vs. Blasphemy in Islam: Should American Values Submit to Islamic Censorship?” – November 26, 2012

      “Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!”
      ― Leonardo da Vinci

      Rosato – Part 1


  13. Arkindole says:

    A story about Julia…
    Let’s say Julia fell down a week or more ago…
    and Julia got a “blood clot” from that fall…
    And, let’s say Julia went into the hospital today and they did an MRI
    And they found a blood clot that probably resulted from Julia’s fall a week or more ago.
    Julia would not typically be given a “clot buster”.
    If Julia had ongoing bleeding since the fall, it would be named differently, and it would have been treated earlier–differently.


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