Saturday Open Thread – December 22nd

Tomb of the Unknown ChristmasOur Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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18 Responses to Saturday Open Thread – December 22nd

  1. Sharon says:

    Well, I don’t believe much of anything anybody says any more but….what do y’all think?

    Speaking on the O’Reilly Factor, Laura Ingraham said a ‘well-placed conservative voice on the Hill’ told her he’s beginning to hear rumblings of a move to replace John Boehner as House Speaker.


    • czarowniczy says:

      Just think of the opportunities the guy will have to open up new foreign markets for Heinz products, moving the economy ahead by putting more unemployed to work picking tomatoes.


  2. michellc says:

    And people wonder why the streets are rampant with evil.
    Daily Kos is celebrating Christmas this year with a series titled “Silent F*cking Night.”

    Here’s a segment from this deranged post:

    But poor Mary — what happened to her? Why, a veritable convention broke out! First there were the animals already in the barn — “the cattle are lowing, the poor Baby wakes”.

    Then the shepherds arrived with their flocks — you don’t think they left them out in the pastures unguarded, do you? Those sheep were the only wealth they had, they wouldn’t just leave them there.

    It was those damned Angels with their trumpets, and their harps of gold, bending near the earth to sing “hark! Glory to the newborn King!”; oh, yeah, the Angels did a great fucking job. By the time they were finished singing on high, with the mountains echoing the “joyful strains” to “come to Bethlehem and see”, heaven and nature singing and repeating the sounding joy and the song high above the trees with a voice as big as the seas, everyone and their brother — but no sisters to tend to Mary — had been called to traipse through the cow barn and stare at the Baby.


  3. stellap says:

    Looking for the Mel Torme/Judy Garland Christmas Song on the newest Christmas thread, I ran across this absolutely wonderful 1963 recording of Barbra Streisand and Judy Garland. I have the audio on tape, but had never seen it before. I know Babs’ politics stink, but she sure could sing back then:


  4. cajunkelly says:

    Just posted this over on the gun ban thread:

    If you don’t currently own enough .223 ammo, you’re out of luck. The DHS has declared that ammo for “government use” and it is unavailable for re-order until no one knows when. Re-order is not even allowed.

    So, they got around banning the gun by disallowing ammo for the AR15.

    So if you own brass casing .223, it should now be considered precious metal, for reloading purposes.

    Otherwise, your AR15 will soon be just an expensive stick.


    • cajunkelly says:

      Footnote: This was told by a big box sporting goods type store. I contacted one private dealer and he hasn’t heard this…yet. Is checking into it.


      • czarowniczy says:

        I’m having difficulty buying this as a number of bolt action and single-shot rifles fire .223/5.56. I’m betting this might be a spin off of DHS’s putting a contract out late last summer for a huge amount of 5.56 ammo that has sparked a number of urban legends since. Unless someone’s given DHS a power I haven’t heard of they do not have the legal right to ban any kind of ammunition, that would be more in ATF’s line as they did with handgun bullets designed to defeat body armor. I have a rather highly-placed friend in DHS I’ll email as he’s in a division that would know.


        • cajunkelly says:

          Please do. The person who was attempting to purchase the .223 had purchased at that same location recently. I’m wonderering now if this person was “profiled” because of the recent purchase and was fed a line of BS.
          As I said, I’m attempting to confirm this with a private dealer I know. He hadn’t heard that, said he was currently out of stock (no surprise) but had some on order. He promised to check on it but I haven’t heard back from him.
          It’s also possible the dingbat at the register had heard about DHS’s order for;
          • Over one million rounds of hollow-point .223 rifle ammo
          • Over half a million rounds of non-hollow-point .223 rifle ammo
          And assumed civilians were blocked from purchasing it.

          I checked *many* sources, both online and local, all of them were ‘out of stock’, except a few online sources which had the more expensive Hornady brand in stock.


          • czarowniczy says:

            One thing you have to look at is the Clinton administration saved a few $$$ by closing a lot of Army ammunition plants, using magic thinking to conclude that the civilian ammo makers could meet any wartime needs. As the military uses ammo in our overseas missions we not only have to feed the machine but replace stocks moved from WRM stocks here and overseas. We have had shortages of military-type ammo on-and-off since 911. Remember also that when a civilian contractor works on a military contract the military contract takes priority. Also, .223 and 5.56 are not the same, and neither are 7.62×51 and .308 Winchester. The slight dimensional differences mean that when the plant sets up for 5.56 it cannot make .223 on the same line – ditto with 7.62.


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