MSNBC Host To Israeli Ambassador: Hamas Rockets “Rarely Do Damage” … You Know, Except For That One That Killed 3 Israelis Last Week

Do you need a better example of how the Media-Left view Israel.  I mean, c’mon it’s only a few hundred rockets falling upon you….  you don’t have to get all defensive about it.  Sheeesh.

Mara Schiavocampo: “Living under the threat of rocket attack is certainly a psychological trauma. But what would you say to those who argue that the rockets are essentially very ineffective, they rarely do damage and that the response from Israelis is disproportional to the threat they’re under.”

Michael Oren: “Imagine if one rocket had fallen in the United States and not now since the year 2009, our last operation, we’ve had something in the vicinity of 8,000 rockets fall on the State of Israel. That’s more than twice all of the German rockets that fell on London during World War II. And you saw how the British and Americans reacted to that.”

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13 Responses to MSNBC Host To Israeli Ambassador: Hamas Rockets “Rarely Do Damage” … You Know, Except For That One That Killed 3 Israelis Last Week

  1. truthfan7 says:

    Mr. Oren was kind in his answer. I would have told her that the people who say that, and she, are appallingly ignorant, and willfully blind, fools.


    • doodahdaze says:

      Mara could become a human shield. Or we could test fire the rockets at her house while she and her family are inside. This would confirm her theories.


  2. doodahdaze says:

    MSNBC could come up with a solution to this problem. If the Hamas terrorists would agree to “Rocket Hour.” A one hour a day time frame for rocketing Israel. This would allow the Israeli’s to hide during Rocket Hour and save face for the Muslim Brotherhood at the same time.


  3. Mikado Cat says:

    A measured response is not tit for tat, its whatever is required to make them stop, so by definition the current response is insufficient to get their attention.


  4. boutis says:
    “From this perspective, in which war is an elemental struggle between peoples rather than a kind of knightly duel between courtly elites, the concept of proportionality seems much less compelling. Certainly if some kind of terrorist organization were to set up missile factories across the frontier in Canada and Mexico and start attacking targets in the United States, the American people would demand that their President use all necessary force without stint or limit until the resistance had been completely, utterly and pitilessly crushed. Those Americans who share this view of war might feel sorrow at the loss of innocent life, of the children and non-combatants killed when overwhelming American power was used to take the terrorists out, but they would feel no moral guilt. The guilt would be on the shoulders of those who started the whole thing by launching the missiles.

    Thus when television cameras show the bodies of children killed in an Israeli air raid, Jacksonian Americans are sorry about the loss of life, but it inspires them to hate and loathe Hamas more, rather than to be mad at Israel. They blame the irresponsible dolts who started the war for all the consequences of the war and they admire Israel’s strength and its resolve for dealing with the appalling blood lust of the unhinged loons who start a war they can’t win, and then cower behind the corpses of the children their foolishness has killed. The whole situation strengthens the widespread American belief that Palestinian hate rather than Israeli intransigence is the fundamental reason for the Middle East impasse, and the television pictures that drive much of the world away from Israel often have the effect of strengthening the bonds between Americans and the Jewish state.”
    Read the entire essay.


  5. czarowniczy says:

    And questioning people who do not trust Kenyan-socialist-democrat-treacherous-POtuSs want to know: is the POtuS (I just love that abbreviation) pushing for a negotiated deal that would prevent Israel from invading SO THAT HAMAS CAN KEEP ITS SUPPLY OF FAJR MISSILES? Seems to me that after a few years of Israel-bashing and Palestine-apologizing he’s really hot to settle the dustup before Israel invades and destroys the Hamas missile storage sites. Seems to me he’d normally let Israel get in, get a foothold, be bashed by the press for murdering women, children and the elderly, then force Israel to ‘negotiate’ (i.e., give up any gains) and slink home while the POtuS gets fitted for an olive leaf wreath from the Arab League.If he stops Israel from invading Hamas keeps its missiles. storage and assembly sites intact and gets to plan for yet another round of shellings somewhere in the near future when the MSM and the White House can start the ‘Israeli Blame Game’ all over again.


  6. cajunkelly says:

    This person, an Israeli forces Major, makes a precise point regarding diplomacy in resolving this issue at the five minute mark on this video.

    “With terrorists you don’t talk. With terrorists you kill. I don’t recall that on September 12th, anyone in the United States intended to engage in diplomacy with Al Qaeda and Bin Laden.”

    The obama complicit media is doing what they do best…obscuring truth.

    This man gets the truth out in spite of them.


  7. obsidian53 says:

    The average Pali rocket contains about 20 lb explosive that’s the equivalent of 20 of the current American hand grenades which are rated around 1 lb of explosive, the kill radius is inside 15 meters/49.5 ft. in diameter. Of course the bigger ones Fafjr-5 have 200 lbs of Explosive and can travel 50 miles and can hit Tel Aviv where many people live.
    8000 x 20 = 160000 lb explosive which is to say the Palis bombard Israel, during the hours their schools open and children go to school, with 160,000 grenades. If these hit all at once the kill radius adds up to around 7,920,000 ft in diameter.
    If the Pali rockets don’t kill many Israeli’s then it’s for lack of aiming skills, crude manufacture and crappy launching platforms and not for effort.
    If your house was continuously shot with a firearm the police don’t tell you, “Well, no ones been killed yet so just endure it till the shooter runs out of ammo and quits” no they call out SWAT and you as home owner have every right to defend yourself by shooting back if you feel you or family are in danger.
    The MSNBC host needs to visit Israel and stand around while these harmless rockets fall about him.


    • czarowniczy says:

      Good analogy, only thing is that we are not being told what the warhead filler in the FAJR missiles is. If we presume TNT that’s one factor, if it’s a metal-enhanced explosive it’s quite another, and if they have a HELIX or thermometric the yield changes again. Current US grenade, the M67, has a 6.5oz Comp-B filler with an R.E. of 1.35 and, if my old conversion table’s correct, gives it an effective TNT filling of about 9 oz which makes the effective delivery even more devastating. We can speculate that the Iranians are using a TNT fill. I’m betting they’re using an arty shell metal-enhanced filling which makes bang-for-the buck even better for the costs and difficulties involved. They are using a lot of Fajr-5s and I’m suspicious that, given the one fired from the Sinai, they are still using the single-stage model. Iran upped the ante by giving Hamas the Fajr-5, let’s see if they raise again by giving Hamas a newer version and/or more exotic warhead fillings.


  8. czarowniczy says:

    Would be interesting to cruise back through the old Chicago Tribune dead-files from late 2001 to see what the pre-POtuS had to say about the Muslims, with whom “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction” after they made their ‘911 call’. Then again, I’m betting someone went through those files with a fine-toothed comb and a flamethrower early on.


  9. dreamerspirit says:

    Ambassador Oren showed great restraint and diplomacy in response to MSNBC reporter, Mara’s reprehensible line of questions. Guess that is why he is a Diplomat and I am not.

    Saw this yesterday and thought it was interesting. “Middle East Crisis In A Nutshell”


  10. akathesob says:



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