Money Bomb For Shellie and George NEXT 24 Hours

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When you see that justice is measured, not by due process, but by compulsion – when you see that in order to invoke your sixth amendment right to due process, you need to obtain permission from men who rebuke the constitution – when you see that justice is determined by those who leverage, not in law, but in politics – when you see that men get power over individual liberty by graft and by scheme, and your representatives don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you – when you see corruption holding influence and individual liberty so easily dispatched and nullified – you may well know that your freedom is soon to perish. 

Yet will you rise in opposition? – Will you stare boldly toward the evil glare of political corruption? – Or will you allow the fear of cultural Marxism to replace your resolve for justice?

The Supreme Court held in United States v. Carll, 105 U.S. 611 (1881) that “in an indictment it is not sufficient to set forth the offense in the words of the statute, unless those words of themselves fully, directly, and expressly, without any uncertainty or ambiguity, set forth all the elements necessary to constitute the offense intended to be punished.” Vague wording, even if taken directly from a statute, does not suffice.

For the next 24 Hours we are asking every patriot within reach of this message to contemplate the value of their liberty; and if capable of commitment, to stand bravely amid the face of great adversity and pledge hope, or more, to the Zimmerman Defense Fund.

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This is far less a consideration of Shellie and George Zimmerman, this is about YOU.  For in as much as they wait tentatively behind the bars of injustice, there but for the grace of God we may stand in their stead. 

Shellie has one person in whom she can trust, his name is George; and George has but one person in whom he can trust, her name is Shellie.   Between them lay the machavellian construct of politics over principle, and power over personhood Please consider your support.

Both Shellie and George are being railroaded by a malicious and vindictive prosecutor using the abuse of elected power for personal gain and prestige.

Help Fight Back By donating to the Zimmerman Defense Fund over the next 24 Hours.

Thank you 

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143 Responses to Money Bomb For Shellie and George NEXT 24 Hours

  1. griz1234 says:

    Ug. I read the affidavit against Ms. Zimmerman… Unless they’ve distorted what was said on those phone calls and invented a bunch of bank transfers, it’s pretty hard not to conclude that she lied to the court.

    Under the pressure they were under, it’s understandable that they didn’t want to be left penniless and at the mercy of a lynch mob… But you can’t lie to the court.

    They gave Team Skittles more rope to hang them with.

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    • Bro-cahontas says:

      I thought all she said was she doesn’t know how much money was in the Paypal account? Given the dynamic nature of Paypal accounts she couldn’t know. I may be totally wrong but that is what she said as I know it. She also directed them to a source who knew the amount.

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      • Shari says:

        This had to be planned out. I think they knew that they were going to arrest her weeks ago. Why else would they arrest her on the same day as a scheduled public Pity Party by camp Tm. If Cindy Anthony didn’t get arrested for purgery then nobody should.

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        • Shari says:

          Perjury, I meant PERJURY. not Purgery. Sorry it’s late and I Need to turn in.

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        • John Galt says:

          “This had to be planned out.”

          IMHO, they had this planned when they filed the motion to revoke. The murder 2 case is weak and they needed leverage. Notice how they filed the perjury charge instantly when Lester’s order came out.

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    • Aussie says:

      keep in mind that the question asked was about the CURRENT amount. Shellie stated she did not know and that the information was available from her brother in law. That is not perjury.

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  2. heathersbeware says:

    I’m lost. Looks like perjury to me.

    I do think that it is heavy handed, though on the judges part.

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    • McBain says:

      Perjury is a tough crime to prove. I’m not convinced she flat out lied in the eyes of the law. The donation account is not your ordinary checking or savings account. Has there ever been a situation like this before?

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      • Daisy says:

        Jose Baez and Casey Anthony received over $200,000 in payment from ABC for pictures of Caylee Anthony. She was declared indigent. Also, her mother lied on the stand and it was proven….. Cindy Anthony was never arrested for lying on the stand. I don’t think Shelly Zimmerman flat out lied. If I was in the same situation as the Zimmermans with a bounty on my head by a bunch of angry black people I just do not know what I would do.

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    • Aussie says:

      it is what is left out of the transcript that shows there was no perjury committed. It has been craftily done to make Shellie look guilty

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  3. mooserator says:

    This is about a Plea Deal.

    This is Angela Corey saying – keep talking and she what happens.

    She is vindicitive. Are her heavy-handed tactics, temper, and threats why O’Mara acts so unusual, and says things about his client that other Defense lawyers wouldn’t say in a million years?

    If you lawyer is afraid of the Prosecutor (and Court), then your goose is cooked. Game Over.

    .

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    • Jodark says:

      Yeah, I’ve come to the conclusion that GZ needs a new attorney ASAP. He needs someone ruthless and ferocious with giant brass balls. Unfortunately, genial O’Mara is not that guy. He needs someone who will call this prosecutor and this court out on the shit it has been shoveling.

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      • howie says:

        I tell ya they oughta enlist Dan Ciener from Merritt Island to help. He would chew her up and spit her out on the Courthouse Steps. But he charges a lot. Worth every penny. Callin the Reinforcements.

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    • hervette says:

      I agree with you. I don’t think O’mara has what it takes. Zimmerman needs a lawyer that can go head to head with Corey. Yesterday I emailed O’Mara and complained that he was too passive and was allowing Corey to mainpulate the entire case. I was polite though.

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    • CIGuy says:

      I disagree. I see O’Mara as cool and calculating. He appears to not want to speak before knowing everything he can. And, when he does, he destroys. It is also important to realize that politics are at play, even in the court room. There is a decorum. O’Mara could go into court and rip the State a new one, but the judge has ruled in their favor, so, in doing so, he would be calling the judge an idiot. A good lawyer knows this and knows how to play the long and short game.

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      • hervette says:

        I truly how you are right!

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      • hervette says:

        Correction: hope you are right

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        • CIGuy says:

          Me too. 🙂 In watching him, though, it is already clear that he is not a hot head in public. He keeps his calm and collected demeanor throughout. We also know that he is very intelligent and made the calculated move to put Gilbreath on the stand in the bond hearing. Taken with other comments he has made and the statements released on his website for George, I feel confident about his abilities.

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  4. BigZim says:

    WHOA! Can Yo believe these scumbags are now going too persecute the entire Zimmerman Family! What next? Are they going to arrest George’s Brother, Mother, Father, all of the Zimmerman Family’s Friends, Joe Oliver, Frank Taafe anyone and everyone who is associated with George Zimmerman??? What a Sad Shameful and Disgusting JOKE this has devolved in too!!!!

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  5. ReginasZooWorld says:

    I am so pi$$ed! … I just got finished donating again.

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  6. ytz4mee says:

    Donated again. Rot in hell, race baiters.

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  7. 2ntense says:

    Done, gladly.

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  8. griz1234 says:

    Thanks to those of you able to send some money their way… My dad sent a check to Oliver North back in the day, and though I’ve lost the returned check over the years and the turmoil of the deaths of my mom and dad, I still remember seeing Ollie’s signature on the check, and “Thank you!”

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    • been there, done that, bought tshirt says:

      Hey griz, There is restaurant in Manuel Antonio, Costa Rica called El Avion. The restaurant is all open air and built around one of the cargo planes used in the Iran/Contra arms shipments. It is pretty cool historically from the Reagan/Ollie years. They even have some news clippings and pics of its sister plane in flight with a quote from a govt official stating, “we have no idea about the existence of those shipments,” or something very close to that. Makes for great reading as you eat under the wings. The kitchen is built into the cliff down below, and they use an inverted DC-9 fuselage as a dumbwaiter to get food to and from the kitchen. The cargo hold is the bar and dancefloor. A second level is built around the tail and looks out over the Pacific. Food is pretty good, too.

      For what it’s worth…ol’ Ollie triggered it.

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  9. sybilj says:

    Seems publishing the front mugshot was not enough. 😦

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jGUW8l1w8_Ha1al0NXOiauvNdQYQ?docId=CNG.b2371552eed6d000aa85ebc4c2e4bc6b.851

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/slideshow/ALeqM5jGUW8l1w8_Ha1al0NXOiauvNdQYQ?docId=CNG.b2371552eed6d000aa85ebc4c2e4bc6b.851&index=0

    This booking photo provided by the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office shows Shellie Zimmerman (AFP/Seminole County Sheriff)

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    • I would expect no less from those progs. Oh, sure they’ll hide behind public records n all, but the intent of broadcasting the booking photos and date of birth etc etc is to attach the scarlett letters NBPP bounty to the “profile”.

      That’s how the progs play…. They have no rules, no boundaries, nothing out of line, unless they are under attack. My patience is officially gone and it was infinitesimal to begin with.

      This is a game where their are no rules for one side and the referees are on their team. It is high time the good guys dispatched their tendency to follow rules and give the progs a severe taste of their own medicine.

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      • sybilj says:

        OT:

        http://thehill.com/homenews/house/232391-democrat-to-offer-bill-repealing-stand-your-ground-laws

        Democrat to offer bill repealing ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws
        By Mike Lillis – 06/12/12 06:02 PM ET

        The House Democrat who represents Trayvon Martin’s district will soon propose legislation repealing the nation’s “Stand Your Ground” laws, which are under a microscope following the shooting death of the Florida teenager earlier this year.

        Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-Fla.) said eliminating such laws might have prevented February’s fatal confrontation between the 17-year-old Martin, an unarmed African-American, and George Zimmerman, 28, an Hispanic neighborhood watch volunteer carrying a 9mm handgun.

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        • been there, done that, bought tshirt says:

          The reasoning is a load of crap. How in the world would repealing a SYG law have prevented the fatal confrontation? I know it says “might.” This is nothing more than a do-gooder legislator trying to get 15 more min of fame. Her BFF’s in Congress are Corrine Brown and Sheila Jackson Lee if that gives you any idea of her way of thinking…or lack thereof. Here’s a thought, don’t start fights, don’t play the part of a thug, don’t try to be a tough guy. Cliff’s notes of the night: One guy starts fight, the other has a gun, the end!

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          • been there, done that, bought tshirt says:

            The dumbest part of the article is she wants to withhold Federal Transportation dollars to states that pass these types of laws. Is there such a thing as reverse extortion? Oh, wait, I got it. Let’s get one hundred million billion signatures and then let’s pass a bill against it just because we say so. There, problem solved, world saved. Cue the clowns, I mean cut off the flow of clowns.

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            • CIGuy says:

              A little OT, but there is reverse extortion like that and the government makes a habit of it. The healthcare SCOTUS arguments talk about that very thing.

              MR. CLEMENT: … But it’s a letter in the record in this litigation, and it’s a letter from the secretary to Arizona, when Arizona floated the idea that it would like to withdraw from the CHIP program, which is a relatively small part of the whole program.

              And what Arizona was told by the secretary is that if you withdraw from the CHIP program, you risk losing $7.8 billion, the entirety of your Medicaid participation. So this is not something that we’ve conjured up –

              Essentially, the government threatened to remove ALL federal funds to the state for Medicaid if they didn’t participate in the smaller CHIP program of Medicaid.

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      • myopiafree says:

        Sundance – You are right. Should George or Shelie be killed – Corey will just say that, well Shelle was guilty of purjury, and George was guilty of “Depraved Indifference” murder. She will say, “too bad” and continue to draw her $140,000+ salary and congratulate herself on doing a wonderful job for truth and justice. Been there – done that.

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    • myopiafree says:

      Why does not Corey send Shellie’s picture, phone number and address to the Black Panther Party – so they can kill her also? Florida has some “justice system”!!

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  10. Bro-cahontas says:

    At first I just thought she was an unethical political opportunist. Now I realize she is an evil bitch who should have all power and authority immediately revoked.

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  11. Scoots Knuck says:

    I think Corey is just pissed at the backlash, Dershowitz and the Treehouse. It really pisses her off that GZ has any supporters at all. It’s just her lame attempt to “get even” and she’s just blowing more smoke out of her fat ass. They can’t stand the fact that GZ is collecting money that is needed to fight her and her minions. She figures if she charges SZ that will further diminish any money collected. If she can’t get ’em one way she’ll get ’em another. This evil bitch deserves a HUGE whack from Karma. She’s already gotten one from the ugly stick!

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  12. teacherexpress37 says:

    I wouldn’t be contributing to George Zimmerman’s Legal Fund since O’Mara got his greedy paws on it but rather contact Shelly or set up a new fund in her name.She is going to need it.

    O’mara has done a crap job from day one. He was crying on a TV interview over Trayvons death while the natives were building a fire to sacrifice his client. O’Mara oozes White Guilt, this guy is a clown and everything that has transpired is his fault.

    Their is a smart bunch of people over here at the Tree House and perhaps it can be figured out how to set up a fund for Zimmerman and his wife so not Judge Lester or Omara have any legal control over the cash.

    Keep up the fight, this site is truly inspiring.

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  13. been there, done that, bought tshirt says:

    Here is the next two 50/50 raffles: Month/Day/Year of first book release. Month/Day/Year of first movie release. 50% to the Zimms, 50% to the winner. $5 ante each person, each event.

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  14. thesitrep says:

    I just kicked in s’more.
    O’mara is going to be a very rich man.
    After GZ is acquitted and his legal bills are paid I’ll give more directly to him.

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    • myopiafree says:

      Hi SitRep, Interesting idea. In a way, this is “high stakes poker”. GZ has the potential to mount a huge libel charge against all “media” (including Crump) types when they say, “murderer Zimmerman”. It is always required that they say, “alleged murderer Zimmerman”. But he must FIRST get that “SYG” judgment. I hope he can “stand tall” for his obvious innocence. Corey is far worse that NiFong – if that is possible!!

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  15. JE_Reading says:

    Just out of curiosity, if not O’Mara, who do you think should represent GZ? I still maintain he did a good job at the initial bond hearing but he was also victimized by blindsiding on myriad levels from that point forward.

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    • howie says:

      Dan Ceiner Merritt Island Florida.

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      • JE_Reading says:

        http://www.cienercriminaldefense.com/profiles.php

        Daniel S. Ciener
        Education:
        University of Florida, B.S. Finance
        University of Florida College of Law, J.D., Honor Graduate
        Bar & Court Admissions:
        Florida
        Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals
        Professional Associations:
        Brevard County Bar Association
        National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers (Life Member)
        Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers
        Honors:
        Martindale-Hubbell – AV rating

        A textual picture of Ceiner – article

        Lawyer’s antics on display at trial

        His client, Ralph Governor, 24, is charged with armed burglary.

        By MOLLY MOORHEAD
        Published May 11, 2007

        DADE CITY – William Chavis recognized the men with the guns.

        He knew them from his high school days in Brevard County, and they stayed at his house in Meadow Pointe for several nights in early 2005.

        Chavis, 23, testified Thursday that Ralph Governor and Ronald Donovan showed up again on Jan. 22, 2005, sometime after 11:30 p.m., asking him to go to Ybor City.

        Chavis declined. He was already heading for bed – and under a curfew as a condition of his probation. He handed the men a phone to call for a ride and closed the door, leaving them outside.

        As he waited in the living room for them to leave, he heard a vehicle pull into his driveway. And when he got up to peer through the glass of his front door, he saw the two walking up with guns, he testified.

        Chavis retrieved a shotgun from his bedroom. In a chaotic gunfight, he struck Donovan in the back with bird shot, but not before Donovan allegedly fired a bullet into Chavis’ chest.

        Governor, 24, of Merritt Island, is on trial this week, charged with armed burglary in the incident. Donovan faces trial in August.

        But the stakes of the case against Governor – he could get a life sentence if convicted – were often overshadowed by the high jinks in Circuit Judge Pat Siracusa’s courtroom Thursday.

        Governor’s attorney, Daniel Ciener of Merritt Island, put his fiery style on full display, vigorously arguing every detail of the trial on his client’s behalf while frequently irritating prosecutor Stacey Sumner and finally the judge, too.

        At least three times Ciener asked for hearings outside the jury’s presence to question investigators’ tactics and witnesses’ knowledge.

        He frequently objected during Sumner’s questioning of Chavis, and Ciener’s cross examination of the victim took several hours.

        Siracusa chastised him for talking over other people, so much so that the court reporter could not keep up.

        “Hold on,” the judge said at one interruption, clapping his hands. “Stop. You can’t even stop talking over me.”

        He also warned Ciener about his facial expressions – raising his eyebrows or furrowing his brow at witnesses’ answers.

        Ciener kept his good nature and even offered a remedy: “I’d be willing to wear something over my head,” he told the judge, who declined.

        Outside court, Chavis said he has recovered from his injuries. He completed his probation on drug offenses and now works as a wine consultant. He’s engaged to be married.

        Before the shooting, he said, Governor and Donovan had been his friends .

        “I let these guys in my house, and three weeks later they come back to rob me,” Chavis said. “It’s a nightmare.”

        The case continues today.

        http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/11/Pasco/Lawyer_s_antics_on_di.shtml

        Ralph Governor was found Not Guilty on 15 May 2007

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        • howie says:

          He is needed here. Truly a real criminal defense attorney. He is unafraid and willing to really go after a Rouge Prosecutor or LEO without mercy. Maybe the Z Team could call him in for reinforcements. Corey might even lose some weight in the epic battle. Make no mistake that man is a fighter.

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  16. I’m in. Dershowitz says he wants to debate Angela Corey, the best venue for that, of course, is in a courtroom. I’m thinking maybe about $2 Mil should be a decent defense fund. There are 1 million CHL holders in Florida alone. If only one of 5 in Florida sends 10 bucks it will raise that much.

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    • myopiafree says:

      I would like Dershowitz to “Defend”. But State Bar Requirements are strange. You have to pass the Bar Exam – in the state of Florida to practice law there. He could be employed as a legal consultant, or as an “Friend of the Court” to provide his judgment of Corey’s screwed up 2nd degree murder charge against George Zimmerman. More power to the people (that is you and I ).

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    • myopiafree says:

      Hi Professor – I would truly like to see this debate on “Fox” or CNN. This would be good for BOTH Corey and Dershowitz. Anyone who would call Dershwitz up and “rant” for 40 minutes at him – BELIEVES SHE IS RIGHT IS ALL RESPECTS. If Allen is “up” for this – then it would be wonderful. I think that each of us in our “Branch” of Treehouse” will support that discussion. When can it happen?

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  17. JE_Reading says:

    Okay. Asking here…Would someone with some clout on this forum be willing to go over to change.org or the petition site and start a petition that also serves to acquire more donations? It would be nice to see how much support is really out there (in numbers form), especially since we are constantly hearing about the jillions of signatures supporting the prosecution’s side is getting or already has. Perhaps it sounds naive but I would like to know how much support GZ has. Even a ballpark figure.

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  18. BigZim says:

    HELL! I am almost afraid to donate any further! Figure Barack (If I had a son) Obama Al Sharpton and Eric Holder might next be coming after us Conservative Tree House Forum Mambers. Who might dare to try and help this Poor Guy out??? Is this “AMERICA” any more I ask Yo??? Gets more frightening just being a Average Good & Decent Law-abiding American Patriot with each passing day!!! It is like we are living in an Obamanation Twilight Zone Night Gallery Nightmare Dream Episode or something! I personally just Hope Wish & Pray that some how some way our Nation our Republic our Democracy hangs on until January 20th of next year when Mitt Romney is sworn in as our next President!!!! May GOD! Almighty HELP us keep us SAFE and SAVE us until then!!!! AMEN! This is just totally unreal just totally SPAZ to say the least! I still can’t believe that I voted for this clown last time! I remember my Father-in-law omniously warning me! “THAT GUY WILL DESTROY AMERICA YO WILL SEE YO MARK MY WORD” he warned! I just blew it off as just another silly old life-long Repuglican who had been watching too much Fox News for way too long! Now I look back and HOLY CHIT he wasn’t kidding fibbing pulling my leg not one bit! This clown has become dangerous as all HELL! I mean it now is like my Father-in-law was Nostradamus or something, I mean like he was spot on smack dab square on the money at every turn as far this here Barack (If I had a son) Obama AMERICA’S very first GAY President is concerned. I mean like when I was growing up I always heard “RESPECT YO ELDER’S” I reckon that extends to listening to them their wisdom when it comes to matters of a political nature too I reckon!!!!! This stuff is truly becoming “SCARY” to say the least that’s for sure!!!!!

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  19. edmundruffinsghost says:

    Went and donated. Corey is a very bad person.

    This isn’t just persecution of the Zimmermans to appease the negroes. Not for Corey. It’s become personal. She wants to win for her own narcissistic glory.

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  20. Mamabear says:

    May I recommend a change of appearance for Shelly. Girls can easily manage it ( hairstyle/color change). Heck with what has happened I say go under cover and wear a hijab. Anything to get those bastards off your scent.

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  21. RUDY says:

    Give O’mara a break!! He is receiving death threats. I bet it is hard to walk out of the house in the morning or go to sleep at night knowing that some psycho might try to kill you. I doubt that there are many lawyers with his skills that are willing to take this case. I think GZ is really lucky to have him. His last two lawyers seemed incompetent and like they were just trying to get some recognition out of it. I think O’mara truly wants to do a good job for GZ. And, if he does a good job for GZ than he deserves all the money and praise that comes his way.

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    • Aussie says:

      this is a very good point. It is true that O’Mara has been receiving death threats.

      What irks me is that nothing is being done to stop the Black Pussies from making these threats.

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    • minpin says:

      I’m sure Jose Baez was receiving death threats also by the boatload, but he still stood tall and diligently and without fail defended his client, and we know for a fact that Casey Anthony was a liar.

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      • Susiejoe says:

        Lawyers get death threats all the time, especially criminal lawyers. Usually though, the threats are connected to angry clients.

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  22. JE_Reading says:

    I know parts (or possibly all) of the text below have been posted by forum users on this thread, but I am re-posting this description of Florida perjury laws (and defenses to) for reference. Info gleaned from Findlaw.com:

    Overview of Florida Perjury Laws

    The offense of perjury, more commonly known as lying under oath, prohibits false statements made during legal proceedings. Florida state laws distinguish between perjury offenses committed during official proceedings and those that happen outside of official proceedings.

    Florida defines an “official proceeding” as any proceeding taking place in front of a judge, magistrate, or another person who can take an individual’s testimony or deposition, through a government agency, court, administrative agency, or legislative body. Examples of non-official proceedings include statements made on a marriage license application and statements made during an insurance company’s routine questions in response to a claim.

    To establish perjury, regardless of whether the offense occurred in an official proceeding, the prosecutor must show that the defendant took an oath to tell the truth. The oath must reflect the taker’s understanding that he must speak truthfully.

    In addition, the prosecutor must prove that the defendant knowingly presented a false statement as a truthful statement. If the defendant believed that the statement was truthful, the state may be unable to establish the elements of perjury.

    Although some states include materiality requirements in their perjury laws, Florida is not one of those states. The prosecutor does not need to establish the materiality of the defendant’s false statement in order to present the elements of perjury.

    Defenses to Perjury Charges

    Recantation: The defendant can use recantation as a defense if the defendant acknowledged the false statement during the same legal proceeding or continuous legal matter. The false statement cannot have already affected the legal proceeding in a substantial way and the defendant must admit to the false statement before any other party identifies the perjury.

    Duress: The defendant must show that she committed perjury due to threat or coercion. To prove duress, the defendant must show an immediate or impending fear, or otherwise prove that she had reasonable grounds to fear the consequences of not making the false statement.
    Note: The truth of the statement does not excuse a defendant from a perjury charge — as long as the defendant believed that he was offering a false statement, Florida law permits the state to prosecute the defendant for perjury.

    Penalties and Sentences

    The potential punishment for a perjury conviction depends on whether the defendant committed the offense in an official proceeding or while not in an official proceeding.

    When perjury occurred while not part of an official proceeding, Florida state laws specify a first degree misdemeanor charge, which can result in a term of imprisonment for up to one year, a fine in an amount up to $1,000, or both.

    For perjury occurring as part of an official proceeding, state laws permit the prosecutor to pursue a third degree felony charge. Upon conviction, the defendant may receive a sentence of imprisonment for up to five years, a fine in an amount up to $5,000, or both.
    If the defendant committed perjury during legal proceedings for a capital felony — for which a conviction results in the death penalty or life imprisonment without parole — Florida laws require prosecution of the offense as a second degree felony, which can result in a sentence of imprisonment for up to fifteen years, a fine in an amount up to $10,000, or both.

    Florida Perjury Statute
    Florida Statutes Sections 837.011-837.07
    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0800-0899/0837/0837ContentsIndex.html

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    • John Gault says:

      The statute sets a 5 year max, you would need somebody that understands the Florida sentencing guidelines to figure out the likely sentence.

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    • howie says:

      Recantation occurred on the 5/18. The fact of the telephonic proceedings indicates duress. They were scared witless. They had to be sworn by a notary for heavens sake.

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  23. MikadoCat says:

    How often is perjury prosecuted?

    What I would like to see most would be total number of arrests in FL for perjury, vs convictions and plea bargains.

    My impression is that perjury is almost never charged without some connection to a greater matter, or as “the only charge that might stick” situation.

    What is really bothering me, GZ says TM is a little younger in court under oath after telling the dispatcher late teens, and everyone in the world including him knowing his exact age of 17 years and two weeks. Now SZ also under oath saying no money a day after talking about the money on a phone that was KNOWN to be recorded. What is the point? Regards SZ why wasn’t MOM totally in the loop regards finances and passport? I wonder if the Zimmerman’s have not been getting some REALLY bad advice from some other source?

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    • minpin says:

      MOM absolutely knew about the paypal accounts. At the end of the first bond hearing, long after DLR questioned Shelly about it, DLR asked O’Mara about the paypal account. O’Mara blew him off with saying I haven’t had a chance to check on that yet. He obviously didn’t take it to seriously, so perhaps the Z’s didn’t think it was that important either. He has no excuse with saying that he thought it only had $700-$1,000 in it. It was his responsibility to check into it,and get all of the information before he got caught with his pants down, which 2 people are suffering for now. He also “forgot” to hand in the second passport. Had he done that, it would have been recorded as received by the court and would not have been made a big deal of by the prosecution, claiming he was hiding it to escape the country with. It is my opinion that O’Mara isn’t up to the task of defending such a high profile case. He is obviously scarred to death of the prosecutors. They have him totally intimidated.

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      • Cyrano says:

        Exactly right, Minpin…and if he didn’t have enough information about the account, then he shouldn’t have allowed Shellie to testify about it under oath, not knowing what she would reveal. He was the one wuestioning her! Go back and review his questioning of her. It reminded me of F. Lee Bailey qestioning Mark Furman! His line of questioning is very specific, and seems to be leading her into the pergury trap.

        Start stringing all these unreal events together and you will begin to see something you really don’t want to talk about.

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    • chopp says:

      I believe one of the problems is having limited access to people because they must be in hiding. Still, the burden is on O’Mara to be prepared and to prepare his wits.

      In my experience, perjury is rarely filed. I don’t see where perjury was committed here and I doubt they could get a conviction under normal circumstances.

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  24. Enough says:

    I think giving more now is not smart. The more he has in the account the higher the bail will be set (if he gets bail again) at the next bond hearing. We should wait until after the hearing.

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    • Mamabear says:

      That is what I am doing. I am saving my pennies and nickes and as soon as bond is either denied or set I will then give. I dont want to cause Zimmerman anymore trouble, and I have no desire for the state of Florida to get even one more cent from him. As far as I can tell they are trying to lynch him and his family.

      Let say Shelly did lie by ommision, not something I am at all certain of (she told the court how to find out just how much $$ was there). Why is George in jail? That makes no sense at all.

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      • howie says:

        The man is in jail because he shot a Black who was trying to kill him.

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        • mamabear says:

          Yes I understand that in a broad sense. What I am saying is how do you justify revoking bond for George if Shelly (allegedly) lied.

          I tell you what I have learned from this. Never EVER talk to the police beyond “he tried to kill me!” until you have a lawyer. Additionally, never EVER take the stand if you can help it. A crooked nasty self serving prosecutor will try to twist every word on it’s head and try to find any way to screw you even if you tell what you perceive as the truth.

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          • howie says:

            The judge obviously gets his instructions from Al Sharpton…according to Al Sharpton.

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            • Sharon says:

              Al Sharpton has a new project in NYC as of this morning, where an evil police officer stalked and shot and killed a teenager, an unarmed and fatherless honor student on his way home from ministering to homeless folks where he had left all of his clothes, so he was naked and so the profiling officer killed him because the officer is from a conservative family and is suspected to have voted for Bush. Or something like that.

              (Hint: the facts as I know them are italicized. The rest is made up. I’m just trying to get the hang of how the racialists do this without even having to think about it. It’s not nearly as easy as they make it look.)

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          • 1harpazo says:

            You are so right! From CCW class: never talk to the police. Lawyer up first. The police are not your friends. They will use what they can against you-even if you’re 100% justified. The only thing you should say is, “i was in fear of my life and I shot until the threat was over.” NOTHING more! Your spouse should not say anything at all.

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  25. Shari says:

    I think a billboard should be made that states all the arrests and charges of the entire Tm family. I’m just not sure how many billboards that would take.

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  26. Mike says:

    I am supporting GZ and will continue to support GZ untill this is over. I will wait until the next bond hearing before I donate more to his defense fund.

    I feel that Mark O’Mara Is a excellent lawyer that Is waiting for the right time to pounce. I do wish he would say less In front of the cameras. But most times “cooler heads prevail”…I believe O’Mara is trying to stay cool under fire. To pick and choose his fights Is probably a good Idea. For O’Mara to get angry and aggressive at this point will most likely help no one…especially George.

    O’Mara needs to stay focussed on the task at hand…and pee peeing the judge off is never a good thing…so his words are measured and his approach is lite handed atm. But when the time is right Im sure he will do whatever he has to so George can go home for good.

    Lets face It…GZ and SZ FU…but there are some very good reason(s) that they did the things they did. I hope that O’Mara can bring some of these things to light durring the next bond hearing. I mean look at George the day he appeared In court. He was shackled like a animal hand to foot. Walking around In this heavy/uncomfortable body armor…not knowing If his next breath would be his last. Tell me now…would not living under the constant threat of being killed or your family be killed or seriously Injured….would this not take a toll on your sanity/judgement? On top of all that the NBP put a bounty on his head on national TV….and has far as anyone can see…thats not a problem….WTF. But If thats not enough…how about the POTUSA Is also against you…although the great messiah knows absolutely nothing about that fateful night In Sanford. I wonder how well Judge Lester.. or any of us for that matter… would hold up If In the same or similar set of circumstances as George Zimmerman and his family.

    If not anyhting else…GZ deserves another chance at bail. The only factors that weigh “HEAVILY” In his favor,” Lester wrote, are “that he returned himself In upon the issuance of the original warrant and has kept authorities abreast of his current location.” “Heavily weigh In his favor” I pray so.

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    • Fathomable says:

      Mike I agree that they’ve behaved in a less than ideal way with regard to this. I also frankly think Shellie looks kind of trashy and ghetto and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if she leaves GZ before this is all said and done, and might’ve already if she hadn’t smelled some cash around. Could be wrong on that.

      Nonetheless, I have great sympathy for GZ in particular and his family as well. I think they’ve been put in a ridiculous situation and are being persecuted and subject to an irrational witch-hunt. There doesn’t seem to be any legitimate, legal basis for him to be in the situation he is now. it’s hard to make me view him in a negative light because of the context. A lot of people are going to do stupid and shady stuff when they suddenly have exposure to a bunch of cash. I’m not even convinced the motives were shady… maybe it was a mix, I’m sure a big part of it was fear of what the future holds, attempting to compensate family who’ve had their lives turned upside down to varying degrees… etc.

      It’s a bit like if someone tried to get me to view Tim Robbins’ character in Shawshank Redemption in a negative light because he destroyed that wall (government property) or helped the warden launder money. Sure, these are illegal, shady things but I’d just keep thinking and saying “yea but he was innocent and put in a position he never should’ve been put in…” same thing here. For me the fact that GZ seems to be entirely innocent in the events of Feb 26th is sort of an impossible, almost insurmountable barrier to me in my mind, I will not ever get past that fact… and everything he or his wife do in the context that situation created I must view through that lens. Innocence of the original charge changes everything, impacts the entire context. Oh and I did go ahead and donate, I hadn’t previously. They have my permission to do whatever they want to with my $10, including shady stuff not directly related to legal costs. For me donating was more about flipping off Angela Corey, and anything I can do to help someone in an impossible, illegally created vortex of persecution.

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      • Mike says:

        Some very good points Fathomable. I especially like the Shawshank anaolgy. It’s In “my” top five favorite movies of all times. 🙂

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  27. Jamie O'Connor says:

    O’Mara agreed to take the case pro bono (if I am correct).

    Now that GZ has so much money in the trust account and that trust account is apparently supposed to be used for a defense fund – to pay his attorney fees, I wonder if O’Mara will want to at some point be paid from that account. Can O’Mara change his position from originally agreeing to take the case pro bono to at some point wanting to be paid for his services? After all, (if the money is not going to be used to pay for O’Mara – his defense counsel), then what are they planning on using the money for?

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    • usually there is an agreement that the defendant will pay his attorney if/when he has the money to do so.

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    • mwsomerset says:

      O’Mara may have waived his fee….but the other costs (paralegals, investigators, expert testimony, copying costs, etc.) will probably still need to be paid. When this is all said and done I would think O’Mara is going to make millions on his book alone…not to mention movie rights.

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    • DizzyMissL says:

      O’Mara changed his statement about being pro bono when he found out about the fund. Jeralyn pointed it out.

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  28. rocker124 says:

    So what would have been the upshot had the Zimmermans divulged the amount of their defense / living expense fund to the court? It appears to me that they may well have been left flat broke, at the mercy of the State. And who would continue to contribute to such a fund, knowing the court could require a higher bond, at it’s pleasure, as additional funds accumulated? This amounts to a denial of Zimmerman’s right to raise a defense fund. True, the judge said he wasn’t “sure” he could expropriate the fund, but what’s that worth? What the judge could have done, and should have done, was to instruct O’Mara to file with the court proof that the fund had been structured in such a way that Zimmerman couldn’t leave town with it. The pretense that any of this somehow makes the testimony of Sabrina and Dee Dee more compelling is willfully perverse.

    Posted by: wetmore333 | June 12, 2012 at 10:12 PM
    I saw this posted in the comments at the Just One Minute blog and thought it brought up good questions. I posted it in another thread, but that thread may not be current, so I put it here also.

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  29. Plum Crazy says:

    Call me crazy, but if I were George and Shellie, I would live on the bare minimum amount of money until the trial. The rest of the money would be used to buy every single piece of property with structures, in the Sanford’s “Hood”. I would purchase this with a shell corporation and use it to secure Bond(s) for both George and Shellie.
    The next thing that I would do is find an insurance company / agent with ties to Team Skittles and insure those properties to the HILT. Fire, theft, vandalism, riots…….
    After my acquittal and subsequent riots, I would collect my insurance money, pay back donors and attorneys, donate/ give the land back to Native Americans, buy a boat and cruise the Carribean until my civil suits are settled. Then buy an island, lord knows Skittles can’t float.

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    • Sentenza says:

      Geez. That’s even worse that the probable cause affidavit for George’s 2nd degree murder charge.

      All it really appears to say is that SZ made statements.

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      • myopiafree says:

        Here is what was said. Shellie did not know – but in HONESTY she say – check with George’s BROTHER. THAT IS HONEST. How that can get twisted into perjury – is beyyond me.
        ++++
        I think there is a reason for this. Many of the answers of Shellie were non-committal. Since the prosecution does not specify which statements were false, here are some possibilities taken from the testimony quoted in the Affidavit of Probable Cause:

        Q. Other major assets that you have which you can liquidate reasonably to assist
        in coming up with money for a bond?

        A. None that I know of.

        What are “major assets”? Isn’t that a matter of opinion? Similarly, what does “reasonably” mean? Isn’t that also a matter of judgment, not a fact? The same lack of clarity accrues to “liquidate.” If the alleged funds already were liquid, the funds could not be liquidated again.
        ++++
        This is all Corey BULL SHIT to “Get” Shellie. This woman knows no limits – her 40 minute rant to Dershowitz proves she is un-hinged. Let me say “allegedly un-hinged”.

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  30. Shari says:

    The state had to have listened to those jail house calls prior to the first bond hearing. So they would have known about that money being transfered before the hearing. Wouldn’t that mean the state set the Zimmermans up. The state avoided the questions that should have been asked. If they knew about this info why not bring it up at the bond hearing. That doesn’t seem legal to me. The state seems to want to keep baiting the protesters. Give them cake and then take it away, make them mad then happy. Just doesn’t seem ethical to me, but then again I’m not a lawyer.

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  31. stephufla says:

    This just in via text

    Sentinel News: Judge orders release of George Zimmermans statements, other evidence. http://bit.ly/oRw90E | Txt STOP NEWS 2quit

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    • myopiafree says:

      Thanks Step – Should be very helpful – when we get it.
      By Jeff Weiner , Orlando Sentinel
      Wed Jun 13 2012 1:54 PM
      Within the next two weeks, the public will know exactly what George Zimmerman, in his own words, told authorities about the night he shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. Judge Kenneth Lester on Tuesday issued an order granting, in part, a motion filed by several media companies — including the Orlando Sentinel — seeking to have evidence in the case released that had previously been withheld from the public.

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  32. Shari says:

    One more thing. Didn’t the state lie to the judge by submitting an affidavit that had no factual information to back it up. Not to mention that the investigator who testified didn’t seem to know much about what was written on that affidavit and he signed it.

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  33. Sentenza says:

    Will they release the full tox screen, too?

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    • Shari says:

      That is the autopsy report. They haven’t released the tox screen from the lab. The drug tests written on that report are just the simple form of a few tests that can be done on site quickly. There should be a formal toxicology report from a lab. The coroner does make a note about another lab report.

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    • Aussie says:

      the full tox screen has not been released. It must contain something that is incriminating.

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  34. myopiafree says:

    PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT: This has been posted before. I don’t know you, but you should listen to this. If you think you can PROVE you are innocent – by talking to the police (even VERY NICE POLICE) THINK AGAIN. GZ did that – walked out a free man – and then the shit hit the fan TWO WEEKS LATER. THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU. Here is the 48 minute video.

    With Stand-Your-Ground, you need to say, “Police – I am innocent. I will tell you everything you need to know. But I want my lawyer here to guide me and to HELP YOU.” In this case – had George done that – the police would have been happy. The Prosecution would have been happy. The Lawyer would have told George that it would be wise to take his self-defense case (provided by the police) to a judge. The judge, looking at “Case Law” would have seen this as exceeding the requirement of self- defense. George would have “walked out” immunized by Stand Your Ground. When you are “charged” like this – you are in a “state of shock” – as George was. He truly needed a Lawyer. This video explains why – it could happens to you!! I shit you not!!

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  35. mwsomerset says:

    I’m just finding it incredulous that some on here are trying to parse what Shellie said at the bond hearing to justify her lying. She misled…to say the least…and flat out lied about not even knowing an “estimate” of how much money they had. When O’Mara asked if they had any money…she said …no…which was obviously a lie. Regardless of why she lied…and if she was even justified in lying….she lied…to a judge…. under oath. She did not tell the truth and she lied by omisssion. I’m surprised anyone is even finding that acceptable….lying under oath. I sure don’t. I just hope this doesn’t have much effect on George’s credibility if he takes the stand during his trial. What a boneheaded move on both of their’s part.

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    • McBain says:

      I believe some on here are suggesting she didn’t commit perjury under the legal definition.

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    • Disgusted With Julison says:

      mw….why would the prosecutor omit the following from the perjury charge? Doesn’t she need to put all exculpatory evidence against those she is charging into the document? Why would she have edited the court transcript in her charge?

      Q: Who would know that?
      A: That would be my brother-in-law.
      Q: And is he — I know he’s not in the same room as you, but is he available so we can speak to him, too, or the Court can inquire through the State or the Defense?
      A: I’m sure that we could probably get him on the phone.
      Q: Okay. So he’s not there now.
      A: No, he is not, sir.

      She included the information from the court transcript that preceded this. Then, she included the information that followed this. I expect this type of thing out of slimey civil court or ambulance chasing attorneys. Not someone whose job is to ensure that the justice system works for everyone.

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      • mwsomerset says:

        No doubt the prosecution is playing hardball and doing everything they can to make things as tough as they can for the Zimmerman’s……but for me….lying under oath was pretty bad. Your word is about the only thing people have of any worth…. and when you lose that with me…you lose a lot.

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        • Susiejoe says:

          I don’t think Shelley intentionally lied. I see confusion, distrust, miscommunication. But more than anything, a failure on the part of the lawyers and judge to ask the right questions and get those funds revealed. They really were never “hidden”.

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        • DizzyMissL says:

          I agree that she should tell the truth, but IMO, BLDR leaving out that part of her statement is a lie.

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      • myopiafree says:

        Hi Disgusted – as I am.
        There is such a thing at “INTENTION TO LIE”. When she asks the court to contact her brother in law for the EXACT AMOUNT – the resolves the issue of “intention”. This is pure “railroading” by Corey – to get ANYTHING ON THE ZIMMERMAN FAMILY. Yes, this type of “framing” is pure disgusting.

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    • Jamie O'Connor says:

      mwsomerset says:
      June 13, 2012 at 3:37 pm
      I’m just finding it incredulous that some on here are trying to parse what Shellie said at the bond hearing to justify her lying.
      ——————-
      I couldn’t have said it better myself mwsomerset and I agree with you 100%. I bet it is frustrating for a lot of people on this site when they hear their friends trying to “parse what Shellie said”. I find it incredibly bias too.

      Even when the truth is staring someone directly in the face, they can still deny, deny, deny that SZ lied and make excuses about how the questions were asked, etc. Just read all the transcripts provided and look at the all the transfers of money in and out of the different accounts the days prior to and following the bond hearing. There can be no other conclusion and there are no exceptions. She flat out lied.

      I am not incorrect in my assertions. She was charged with perjury because she knowingly lied and the evidence is so completely compelling that any jury who hears the evidence will find her guilty of perjury.

      One thing that I took special notice of was the tone of her voice while she testified. Listen to the way she answered the questions. Her answers don’t even seem natural or honest. In truth, it sounds as though she was coached prior to her testimony by someone who told her exactly how to answer every question presented. She was extremely careful… to the point of being overly careful.

      Every word she said in my opinion sounded unnatural, matter of fact and even quite arrogant (especially knowing what I know today about the coded calls).

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      • mwsomerset says:

        Totally agree about the tone of her voice during the bond hearing….sounded kind of bitchy to me. Of course I could understand why she would be….but still…. my Mama always said…you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Maybe if she had come across as being “unsure” about the answers rather than adamant she might have been given some slack.

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  36. rocker124 says:

    As I said the other day when this came up in another thread, I think that this will probably qualify for a “malicious prosecution” lawsuit against Ms. Corey. The prosecution can try to make an argument that there were funds available to the Zimmerman’s. That WILL fail, and here’s why:

    The appropriate defense is that a “Constructive Trust” was immediately created for the “sole and only” purpose of DEFENSE of George Zimmerman. That money was thus “unavailable” for use as “bond money” or to be liquidated by Ms. Zimmerman or any other person for any other reason than to pay for defense costs. No lie, no perjury: poof, Ms. Zimmerman wins.

    If I were Ms. Zimmerman’s attorney, I would have made a phone call to Ms. Corey already, followed up with a very nice letter stating that failure to immediately withdraw this charge within 72 hours would be met with a civil lawsuit of Malicious Prosecution for abuse of prosecutorial discretion in light of the clear FACTS of the case and Florida Trust law. I would also state very clearly that her employer’s E&O policy will not defend said lawsuit, nor will her employer. She’ll be ALL on her OWN and her assets WILL be exposed, just to make sure that she’s been notified of that fact.

    Like or Dislike: 6  0

    I found this comment on the Legal Insurrection blog, and I think this person sums up the situation correctly.

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    • Sentenza says:

      Then after that, I’d sue her civilly anyway. 🙂

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    • howie says:

      I do not understand. They had the money and did not tell the court. But the later they gave the money to Omara but not all of it. He accounted to it with the judge on the 18th. The other money is what she is in trouble for. This is separate from the case of Murder and not admissible. Zim may even be in trouble here. I doubt he gets out unless the murder charge is dropped. The judge will just say this is a new crime. Then they can address the perjury and that part I am not interested in. This money part Is on Zim. Really stupid. Excuse…Fear. Good excuse. I hope it works.

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    • Susiejoe says:

      See I have been seeing malicious prosecution build out of this. Only problem with that lawyers solution is that Ms. Corey is not a normal rational person. Something is very wrong with her and she would not back down to a threat. Rather, she would come back with anything worse she could – somewhere, someplace a tit for tat to settle the score. The woman is a loose cannon and most of the lawyers in Florida apparently know it. OMara must know her well. He has chosen an approach to deal with her which I think many are confusing with weakness. I’m watching, curious.

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      • howie says:

        I think the lawyers in Central Florida is glad she is in Jacksonville. They hope she goes home soon. None more than the Judge.

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    • howie says:

      You have hit on the thing that can bring her and Crump down….abuse of process.

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  37. DizzyMissL says:

    For some reason, this page will not load all of the way for me.

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