042-68-4425 Curiouser and Curiouser ……. Holy Snap, Treepers!


There has been a recent and important development and discovery by the Constitutionalists regarding Obama eligibility issue, and specifically his Social Security Number. First though it is neccessary to understand the backstory and provide some context. So a historical article is shown italacized and indented below to help understand the significance of the “new” discovery.

NEW YORK – Two private investigators working independently are asking why President Obama is using a Social Security number set aside for applicants in Connecticut while there is no record he ever had a mailing address in the state.

In addition, the records indicate the number was issued between 1977 and 1979, yet Obama’s earliest employment reportedly was in 1975 at a Baskin-Robbins ice-cream shop in Oahu, Hawaii.  WND has copies of affidavits filed separately in a presidential eligibility lawsuit in the U.S. District Court of the District of Columbia by Ohio licensed private investigator Susan Daniels and Colorado private investigator John N. Sampson.

The investigators believe Obama needs to explain why he is using a Social Security number reserved for Connecticut applicants that was issued at a date later than he is known to have held employment.

The Social Security website confirms the first three numbers in his ID are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049.

“Since 1973, Social Security numbers have been issued by our central office,” the Social Security website explains. “The first three (3) digits of a person’s social security number are determined by the ZIP code of the mailing address shown on the application for a social security number.”

The question is being raised amid speculation about the president’s history fueled by an extraordinary lack of public documentation (must read link /SD). Along with his original birth certificate, Obama also has not released educational records, scholarly articles, passport documents, medical records, papers from his service in the Illinois state Senate, Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records and adoption papers.

Robert Siciliano, president and CEO of IDTheftSecurity.com and a nationally recognized expert on identity theft, agrees the Social Security number should be questioned.

“I know Social Security numbers have been issued to people in states where they don’t live, but there’s usually a good reason the person applied for a Social Security number in a different state,” Siciliano told WND.

WND asked Siciliano whether he thought the question was one the White House should answer.   “Yes,” he replied. “In the case of President Obama, I really don’t know what the good reason would be that he has a Social Security number issued in Connecticut when we know he was a resident of Hawaii.”   [Siciliano is a frequent expert guest on identify theft on cable television networks, including CNN, CNBC and the Fox News Channel].

Daniels and Sampson each used a different database showing Obama is using a Social Security number beginning with 042.   WND has further confirmed that the Social Security number in question links to Obama in the online records maintained by the Selective Service System.  Inserting the Social Security number, his birth date and his last name produces a valid Selective Service number.  (You can check for yourself)

To verify the number was issued by the Social Security Administration for applicants in Connecticut, Daniels used a Social Security number verification database. She found that the numbers immediately before and immediately after Obama’s were issued to Connecticut applicants between the years 1977 and 1979.

“There is obviously a case of fraud going on here,” Daniels maintained. “In 15 years of having a private investigator’s license in Ohio, I’ve never seen the Social Security Administration make a mistake of issuing a Connecticut Social Security number to a person who lived in Hawaii. There is no family connection that would appear to explain the anomaly.”

Does the Social Security Administration ever re-issue Social Security numbers?  “Never,” Daniels said. “It’s against the law for a person to have a re-issued or second Social Security number issued.”  Daniels said she is “staking my reputation on a conclusion that Obama’s use of this Social Security number is fraudulent.”   There is no indication in the limited background documentation released by the Obama 2008 presidential campaign or by the White House to establish that Obama ever lived in Connecticut.

Nor is there any suggestion in Obama’s autobiography, “Dreams from My Father,” that he ever had a Connecticut address.   Also, nothing can be found in the public record that indicates Obama visited Connecticut during his high-school years.   Sampson’s affidavit specifies that as a result of his formal training as an immigration officer and his 27-year career in professional law enforcement, “it is my knowledge and belief that Social Security numbers can only be applied for in the state in which the applicant habitually resides and has their official residence.”

Daniels told WND she believes Obama had a different Social Security number when he worked as a teenager in Hawaii prior to 1977.

“I doubt this is President Obama’s originally issued Social Security number,” she told WND. “Obama has a work history in Hawaii before he left the islands to attend college at Occidental College in California, so he must have originally been issued a Social Security number in Hawaii.”

The published record available about Obama indicates his first job as a teenager in Hawaii was at a Baskin-Robbins in the Makiki neighborhood on Oahu. USA Today reported the ice-cream shop still was in operation one year after Obama’s inauguration.  Politifact.com, a website typically supportive of Obama, claims he worked at the Baskin-Robbins in 1975 or 1976, prior to the issuance of the number in question.

“It is a crime to use more than one Social Security number, and Barack Obama had to have a previous Social Security number to have worked at Baskin-Robbins,” she insisted. “Under current law, a person is not permitted to use more than one Social Security number in a lifetime.”

Another anomaly in the law enforcement databases searched by Daniels and Sampson is that the date 1890 shows up in the field indicating the birth of the number holder, along with Obama’s birth date of 08/04/1961.  A third date listed is 04/08/1961, which appears to be a transposition of Obama’s birth date in an international format, with the day before the month.

Daniels disclosed to WND the name of the database she searched and produced a computer screen copy of the page that listed 1890 as a date associated with the 042 Social Security number.

(This is important, remember these two paragraphs and the date 1890 to grasp the importance of  the new discovery…../SD)

Daniels said she can’t be sure if the 1890 figure has any significance. But she said it appears the number Obama is using was previously issued by the Social Security Administration.   After an extensive check of the proprietary databases she uses as a licensed private investigator, Daniels determined that the first occurrence of Obama’s association with the number was in 1986 in Chicago.

Daniels assumes, but cannot prove, that Obama took on a previously issued Social Security number that had gone dormant due to the death of the original holder.   Daniels has been a licensed private investigator in Ohio since 1995.  Sampson formed his private investigations firm, CSI Consulting and Investigations, in 2008. He previously worked as a deportations law enforcement officer with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

The Daniels and Sampson affidavits were originally recorded by attorney Orly Taitz in an eligibility case against Obama last year.  (read full article here)

Now we get to the latest development.   I’m still trying to track down all of the linkage and independently verify, but so far I gotta say this article (below) seems completely factually correct and legit.   Remember the important date from the WND article above with only a casual reference?  1890 keeps showing up as an additional date when you research Obama.   “1890” what possible reason for 1890?    Read on…….

BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA –  Year 1890 Social Security NUMBER TRACED TO “JOHN PAUL LUDWIG” –  This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama.

This is what we know so far.  We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had Connedicut Social Security Number (SSN) obtained in 1976 and died in Hawaii around 1981.  There are two (2) Social Security numbers for him and records show him dying in two (2) different states: California (CA) and Hawaii (HI) around 1981.

The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to President Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration, or it was reported and deleted from the database by someone.

Obama’s maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse.  Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died “intestate” in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died.   Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could “adopt” it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level.

This is what we know about Ludwig:

  • In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC.
  • On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his employer, in answer to where he intended to live in the US.
  • Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings.
  • Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924:
  • Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure:
    Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008
  • Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Employer. Mr. Reed;
  • Whether in possession of $50: Yes;
  • Whether ever before in US: Yes;
  • If Yes-Period of Years: 3;
  • Where: PA
  • Whether going to join relative or friend: Employer. Senator Reed, Washington, DC
  • Length of time alien intends to remain in the US:  Always
  • Height 5′5″
  • Complexion Dk.
  • Hair Brown.
  • Eyes Brown.
  • Marks of ID: None
  • Place of Birth: France, Ammersville.

[link to www.ellisisland.org]

First Name: Jean P.
Last Name: Ludwig
Ethnicity: France
Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C.
Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924
Age at Arrival: 34
Gender: M
Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Leviathan
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0008

U.S. Social Security Death Index
Name: Jean Ludwig
Birth Date: 17 February 1890
Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI)
Death Date: June 1981
Estimated Age at Death: 91

Social Security Numbers were not used prior to 1930’s.  If this information on Mr. Ludwig passes the rigorous investigation currently being done, and if Mr. Ludwig only requested a Social Security Number in 1976 at the age of 85-86 for some medicare/medicaid benefit need, then obviously this brings several questions to mind:

  • Why is President Obama using the SS# of a dead guy?
  • How did Obama get the SS# of a dead guy?
  • Why was the SS# of a dead guy used to fill out the Selective Service registration requirement?

Chew it over…   All the links are embedded.   What say you?

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77 Responses to 042-68-4425 Curiouser and Curiouser ……. Holy Snap, Treepers!

  1. Whose Social Security Number Did Obama Steal?
    Posted on March 15, 2011 by Bridgette at WTPOTUS


  2. Obama’s House of Cards is Collapsing!
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    • garnette says:

      The thing on this that bothers me most is why does it show that he was only at Columbia for 1 year and that he got a degree. I know that colleges always required that transfer students completed 2 years of work to be able to get a degree, especially during the time period he went to college. Also, because of the different requirements for school, a few credits wouldn’t transfer so it would take an extra semester or two to meet the new college’s degree requirements. I doubt they would have let him transfer in that much credit from other schools in order to get a degree. Besides, there doesn’t seem to be a trace of him in yearbooks or people’s memories for the time he was supposed to be there.


  3. Dr. Chiyome Fukino Chats with NBC
    Posted on April 10, 2011 by Bridgette at WTPOTUS


  4. G8rMom7 says:

    Which one of the above articles explains what possible reason O’s grandmother would help him get a fake SSN? What was going on the late 70’s that made her think it was important enough to commit a crime to do it? Was it to keep him out of the draft?


  5. Moe says:

    I figured it out! Obama lived with his grand parents in Hawaii at this time, which the time he would be able to get a job. No SS#, no job, so Granny took care of it for him.


  6. G8rMom7 says:

    Oh okay…but didn’t he have a different SSN when he worked at the Ice Cream shop? And then it was after that the mysterious Connecticut SSN got applied to him? I thought it may have something to do with him having to sign up for the draft.


  7. Moe says:

    Does anyone know how many SS#’s are registered allegedly to Obama?


  8. garnette says:

    What I think happened was that the Ludwig had a SS#, but at some point whoever was his caretaker didn’t realize he had one and got him one. When he died it became apparent he had two numbers and SS probably disconnected one number from Ludwig, and somehow this came to Toot’s attention. She realized that Obama didn’t have a number and decided to register it to him, just in case he needed it in the future. Why worry about going through all the paper work needed to renew his citizenship, if he could just report a ss# that would get through the computer systems that were in place at the time. At the time, he was considered a foreign student so he didn’t have to use one. I think at the time they were a lot more lax about requiring one and probably had a system in place for foreign students to skip over the requirement of a number in that field. At some point he realized he wanted to stop being considered a foreign student and began to use this ss#.

    I don’t think he registered for the selective service because he was a foreign student and probably by the time he began to use the ss# he was old enough to slide through the systems in place to catch someone who wasn’t registered. When he was running for office, the subject came up and thanks to a bit of creative artwork along with that ss#, his selective service record was able to be shown on the Internet.


    • I agree entirely. Especially with the last paragraph. You’ve got to see:


      I think he was probably born in Hawaii, but I still don’t understand how his mom attended college in CA 8 days after his birth. That’s odd.

      But say she left him in HI with someone (?) Then when adopted he changed name, citizenship, and off to Indonesia. At intervals he returned to HI for vacations, visits with relatives etc. Hence sporatic, infrequent, associations and pictures etc. He definately applied for college as a foreign student and that was his basic schtick until visa’s, illegalities and immigration status became an issue. Hence the SS#’s as cover, basically he was an illegal.

      The information on his Selective Service registration is irrefutably false, the proof is overwhelming and substantive, and proves falsified documentation.


      • garnette says:

        A key thing that I keep thinking of as I read through this is that in the late 70s and early 80s mainframe computers were used to house records and to pull records as a group. I think that Toots worked in an area where she had a good understanding of what computers could do and could not do, so she knew that it would be easy to use a ss# that really was not attached to anyone. It is also why it was so easy for him to get around record keeping at the colleges.


    • G8rMom7 says:

      This is exactly what I was trying to think though…THANK YOU!!! Sundance, thanks for those links but I’ve read EVERYTHING we’ve had over here on this topic…what can I say, it’s entertaining AND could have such a great impact on this country.

      But I was just having a hard time understanding the motivations of Boots not knowing he would someday be running for public office. It seems like he was a foreigner when it was convenient (scholarships for college) and then a US citizen when it was needed…running for office?

      This is really unbelievable…what I find SO unbelievable is that there aren’t more Woodward and Bernsteins out there willing to eat crow and put some legitimacy towards this investigation. Not that WND and all the others aren’t “legitimate” but let’s face it, even Fox isn’t digging into this…why?


      • YTZ4Me says:


        Giving credit where credit is due, our very own RedPill has been fighting this battle since close to the very beginning.

        There are a number of good sites that have been on top of this,
        here is another to check out:


        Leo Donofrio is an attorney who brought forth one of the challenges to Teh Won’s eligibility . His site, “Natural Born Citizen” is a good read too. He goes in to quite a bit of detail about Vattel, the positions of the Founding fathers, etc.


        Sharon Rondeau is a little late to the party, but she’s been doing a good job of keeping up with this story:


        Glad to see the Donald is finally asking the questions that count, including, “What is a Natural Born Citizen?”


      • That “crow” is so big it would destroy the entire structure of the Democrat party and the Main Stream Media. Think about it.

        The Fraud is so HUGE in it’s enormity, that all those Obots would have to admit culpability. Mob mentality rules. Occams Razor n all….

        They’ve bought, sold, and fed this line of BS for so long they have staked their entire existence on it.


        • YTZ4Me says:

          I don’t care.

          He admitted in the pre-debate warm-up with Alan Keyes running for IL State Senate in 2004 that he wasn’t a “Natural Born citizen”.

          His attack dogs sent the Secret Svc to intimidate me in Feb 2008 when I innocently stated I didn’t think he was eligible in an online forum.

          LTC Lakin is rotting in Leavenworth because our courts refuse to even hear the issue.

          The rot is deep within the body politic; but we MUST excise it if we are to save the Republic.

          We need an 9/12 or 8/28 in front of the Supreme Court DEMANDING that one of these challenges go forward and resolve the issue.

          And Pelousy is guilty of treason, IMO, and deserves jail time.


          • Sharon says:

            Good grief….I’ve said for a long time that one of our major problems is that we are no longer a nation of laws, and that’s part of about three or four of your paragraphs here.

            Since when has the Secret Service had as one of its duties to infringe on citizens’ Freedom of Speech?

            Somehow this thing has to ratchet up quickly….the slow push sure hasn’t discouraged the dug-in-lawless folks. Maybe the ratcheting up actually is in progress…between The Ann and The Donald…


    • lakelady says:

      According to the Social Security Death Index this is Jean Ludwig’s SS# 045-26-8722. SSDI states he received his number in CT and died at 91 in HI, June, 1981. The number Obummer is using is 042-68-4425. Why do all the articles I read continually refer to Ludwig’s number? I have read that Ludwig supposedly had two numbers? Is there proof that he had the 68-4425 number, too? I haven’t seen that. I just think that pursuing the Ludwig trail will lead nowhere. What’s more intriguing is that the 68-4425 number has been found by PI’s to show up connected to someone named Harrison J. Bounel who also brings up a connection to Mrs. Obummer.


  9. IAmDagny says:

    Is this what is meant by the phrase, “Sh** rolls downhill”?

    We have interia and momentum. KEEP IT GOING.


    • Hey Dagny !!! Hows “things”?…. settled down a bit I hope. Hey check out the last thread we did on you. We found out who the Facebook fibber was. 🙂 Bunch of us busted his lying chops too. Good to see ya !!


      • YTZ4Me says:

        FYI, as of 9 pm tonight, the “FB fan page” was still up — and the loser who runs it is now grabbing photos from you all over.
        It’s turning into a cesspool. Not cool.


        • I agree “Not Cool” indeed. Is there anything more we can do to get it taken down?


          • IAmDagny says:

            Meh. He’s just heaping coals on his own head. Everyone knows it is fake, so it no longer can do me any harm. The worse it gets, the more it proves our points. Put him in your prayer intention with that Wolcott guy.


            • YTZ4Me says:

              Well, with his smart-azz “Semper Fi” cracks, he is DEFINITELY getting some attention from me bright and early tomorrow.


            • IAmDagny says:

              And I forgot to say THANK YOU to all of you guys! I was operating on my iPhone all weekend and couldn’t drop in here, but I was watching! 🙂


              • YTZ4Me says:

                Studmuffin volunteered NOS to translate into Mandarin for the Gates of Vienna project.

                Loved your post about Joan of Arc — I took an audit course on inspirational women-
                Heloise, the abbess and mistress of Abelard; the prophet Hildegard of Bingen; the legendary Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine; and the woman-warrior and saint, Joan of Arc.

                My favorite by far was Joan. I’m in the middle of my third interpetation of her, “Joan of Arc, Military Leader”, by Kelly Devries.


            • Sharon says:

              This last week has been a wild ride for you, Ann. Goodness, what a transition from (sort of) private businesswoman to nationally effective patriot with a rapidly expanding audience. I’m glad you’re getting significant support made available if you should need it. To be “cheering you on” last week felt slightly irresponsible, not knowing if a higher visibility would increase the risk to you as well. God bless you and keep you. Have a good week and make lots of money while you’re at it!! DH and I always wish the wildest success to those who work hard on their own behalf….love me some capitalists!


      • WeeWeed says:

        He does not seem to like some of us. Bwaahaahaa.


  10. zmalfoy says:

    Huhn. This is all very, very interesting.
    . . .
    yeah. I need to have a good “ponder” about a lot of this . . .


  11. wendy ann says:

    Those Dunhams were a rotten bunch…


  12. wendy ann says:

    oops – meant “Dunham’s” and they’re still rotten!!


  13. staceedb says:

    This message contains blocked content that has previously been flagged as abusive or spammy. Let us know if you think this is an error

    The above is what I got when I tried to post this on my facebook page…hmm.. WTF? Oh yeah , I forgot they are Obama lovers there…I hate facebook..


    • Stacee, THANK YOU, thank you, thank you, for bringing this up. There really is a connection between content of articles and FaceBook censorship. However, there is a way around it. When you get the message hit “okay” and then do it (the exact same thing) again using the post to page button on the bottom of the screen. It might take a time or two but it will go through.

      Facebook says it is a “technical” glitch. Bull-pucky!!! It is completely a control and Censorship issue. I have been tracking what exact threads this occurs on and it ain’t coincidental that it happens when highlighting lefty manipulations or Obama Lies. Big Marxist Brother is all over FaceBook.


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  15. Sandy says:

    Oh yes…..it would be fairly easy to find out anyone’s SS#, and even easier to find out the president’s SS#. I can’t figure out if you people are just racist, or are completely and utterly off your rocker. Remember the thing called identity theft? I am sure his SS# has been changed since taking office just for added security against posting it all over the internet. See above for case in point.


    • WeeWeed says:

      So, what do you think about lizards? And, you can’t use the number “6.”


    • stellap says:

      Racist? Where do you get that? We are obviously insane. To you, anyway. What do you think about sand lizards? In the Permian Basin?


    • Obama’s Social Security Number is open record. It is also protected from use. It is posted here just like it is on his FOIA records. The different SS#’s attached to Obama were created prior to his candidacy throughout his life. Bill Ayers has spoken extensively on the practice of his group, and his friends groups creating false identities for themselves and others. This was part of their underground agenda.

      Regarding the claim of racist intent I have no idea what drives that suggestion from you other than your attachment to a rabid left wing ideology that espouses the use of race as a deflective tactic against having to answer legitimate questions.

      Is wanting to see college scores racist.?
      Is wanting to see and read the POTUS Thesis racist?
      Is questioning why he only attended Columbia University from Sept 1982 to May 1983, but still attained a degree racist?
      Is asking why he walked away from a full scholarship at Occidental College, to “pay for” college at Columbia racist?
      Is asking how a person on food stamps/welfare (his admission for himself and his mom) can afford to walk away from said scholarship and choose to pay $40,000+ annual (out of state) student tuition racist?
      Is questioning an entire year missing from May/June 1981 (leaving Occidental College) to Sept 1982 racist?

      You see, these are legitimate questions the media never sought answers to, but a large number of American people wanted to know. So how is asking them of Obama, just like they would be asked of anyone, racist?


      • MRM says:

        Good questions Sundance. It occurs to me that those whose knee jerk reaction is to cry “Raaaaaacist!!!” are those who in their own racist hearts believe that it might be impossible for a (insert minority race) to succeed due to inherent deficiencies. In other words, to quote GWB’s brilliant summation “the soft bigotry of lowered expectations”
        Those who scream “raaaacist” about any criticism of Zippy are more or less saying “leave him alone – he’s doing the best he can as a black man”


    • Patriot Dreamer says:

      You’re worried about identity theft? Seriously? You don’t think the Secret Service and the Department of the Treasury has that covered? Come on now …


      • MRM says:

        Y’know, PD, I’m a little concerned about identity theft myself…… in particular, the identity of the original holder of BO’s SS #. . . not to mention the original holders of all his other SS#s……. Maybe that’s what Sandy is worried about as well… /sarc


      • AFinch says:

        Or at the very least, Lifelock. It’s only about $100 per year–well within BO’s ability to pay.


  16. LakeLady says:

    I’m not in Obama’s camp, but after reading the questions about him using the SS# of a dead guy, I looked up the number on the SS death index. 045-26-8722 is the number given for Jean Ludwig, the Frenchman who immigrated to America and died in HI. His SS number was issued in CT. Variously, I have read that Obama was using the SS# of a young man who passed away at the age of 19 in CT. His name was Thomas Woods and his SS# was 042-68-4424. I have also seen a computer generated record on line of Obama’s Selective Service registration, not the image of his actual card with the redactions. That printout has a SS# of 042-68-4425. One digit off from that of Thomas Woods. When that number is put through the death index, it comes up as “no record”, meaning no one with that number has died. BUT, that number is obviously a CT issued number. Chris Matthews said that Obama’s father was in CT and got the number for his son. Huh? With no birth certificate? I remember going for my SS# for my first job in 1960 and I had to be present, with my birth certificate in hand. I don’t think your parent’s can obtain your SS# for you. Also, I used a link to search the Selective Service index. You input the SS#, the last name and the birth date. I did all of that for Obama and the reply I got was that I used up my allotment of daily searches of their database. One search is over the daily allotment? It’s obvious that that system is programmed to spit out any inquiries about Obama and that “reply” is automatically generated. – And now we have a birth certificate with Photoshop layers and mis-matched pixels that HI Governor Abercrombie couldn’t find, that a HI elections clerk swore an affidavit didn’t exist, that CNN reported over 2 years ago that all files were destroyed. Suddenly it appears? It is such an innocuous document, one has to wonder why they hid it for nearly three years and fought several court cases to keep it unseen.


    • oifvet says:

      yes parents can get a ss# for their children, my mother got mine when i was 7. in 1967. i would think it an impossibility though that obama sr. a kenyan, could have gone to ct and done any such thing. i also don’t see any significance that Barry worked at an ice cream shop at age 14 or 15. I had a couple of part time jobs at that age and was never asked for a ss#. times have changed alot since then. i was born in 1960. i would think that the main reason for this ss# fraud is due to no birth certificate at all. or that a kenyan birth certificate does actually exist, would be the real reason for all this fraud taking place. either way Barry is not my president and never will be


      • lakelady says:

        When I was born, (1943) parents didn’t get SS#’s for their children. Perhaps the well off people did because they had the means to open savings accounts for their kids. But, other than in that circumstance, there was no reason to obtain a number for a newborn. When my first was born in 1970, it was then common practice to get a SS# for your child soon after birth. I was able to do it by mail. I’m questioning the contention that O’s father applied for a SS# for him when the Sr. was in CT. Just how did he obtain the birth certificate of O Jr. to use for the application? Records have now shown that it is probable that O Sr. & S Ann Dunham never lived together as husband and wife. Are we to believe that she gave O Sr. the certificate before she moved to WA to attend college? Highly unlikely, wouldn’t you say?


    • Andy Miller says:

      Now it says equipment out of order but I then put in my # was told only had records after 1960 so I tried my oldest son’s and it gave the correct # and everything tried 042-68-4425 was told equipment out of order again. WHO is this man that can control the Selective Service Regestration Data Base Computer?


  17. jg says:

    We have not seen the last of this issue. It is just the tip of the iceberg!

    This is the year of political posturing by the potential candidates. If any of them have any sense they will put some of their cash into finding the true facts and separating it from the garbage. If Trump really wants to have an affect on getting this country on track then he should put his money into drilling down on this issue (which I am sure he is). The results of his and others investigations should reveal some cold hard facts about this O-socialist and his ilk in office. The critical thinking people in this country need to come together and get the word out there by talking to everyone they know. We all need to challenge our Dumocrat and Independent buddies that fashion themselves to be critical thinkers and start uncorking the evidence bottle themselves and drill down on this. Maybe then the people that don’t normally read this stuff on right wing blogs will start to question what they are being told by MSNBC and other left wing supporting media.

    The other day one of my colleagues who thinks of himself as an Independent told me that he did not know about the intense scrutiny of McCain during the vetting process and that the House never gave equal treatment of Obama to ask the same questions. I asked him if he thought that should have been done and he answered yes. That is part of the problem in this situation. People are ignorant of the facts and the information and left to their own decisions they will make a choice based on what is fed to them, not researching facts for themselves.

    Classic case of media bias being passed down to those who choose to remain ignorant of facts..


  18. DON A. says:



  19. zauber says:

    Interesting that when I go to the SSN death lists John P. Ludwig (aka ‘Jean’) shows up as having died in June 0f 1981 in Honolulu, HI (SSN 045-26-8722) and in San Luis Obispo on 17 June 1981. Former is from the SSN Death Index (available on most genealogy sites) and the latter from the State of California. California Death Index, 1940-1997. Dayes of birth, dates of death and SSNs are the same, only thing separating them is the Pacific Ocean. Interesting how SSNs can be cleared up but other problems =- like, um, where he died – are still hanging out there.


  20. zauber says:

    Seems that the good Mr Wood faired not much better than Mr Ludwig. Ludwig died June of 1981, though we are not sure where, Mr Wood died in July of 1981 at the tender age of 19 in Connecticut and Mr Graziano’s SSN is still listed as ‘active’ though that doesn’t say Mr Graziano is. Starting to look like the morbidity tables for the witnesses in the Kennedy assassination hearings.


  21. Steven T says:

    I’m just confirming that Selective Service (SS) is still stopping us from accessing Obama’s SS records. Hummm.


  22. Will Lyster says:

    You can’t access the Selective Service data for Obama anymore. You get this response from the server:

    We apologize. Your request cannot be processed at this time because we are experiencing technical difficulties. One of our system components is not operational. We are aware of and are currently attempting to correct the problem. Please try again later. (8/30/2011 6:35:20 AM)

    Although, I tried with my own data and that of another person and it works fine. If you try Obama’s data again, same error.


  23. Doris Schatz says:

    I was born in 1941 in KY and didn’t get a social security number until I got my first part-time job in 1956 In Illinois. I had to write to KY and get a certified birth certificate and mail it to the SSA with my application. My number was issued in IL. I always thought it was very coincidental that Ms. Dunham passed away just a few days before he was elected. No chance for the National Enquirer to get an interview or for any information to leak out of the apartment. Who else would have the true birth certificate or know all the facts????


  24. NM Pancho says:

    If they have all this evidence, why can’t they can him?


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