Democrats Will Win or DIE in Wisconsin…. The Liberal Kadaffi Approach

Sorry to be so blunt in exposing the progressives, and I hate putting this on our page, but you gotta know what we are up against.  Consider the example of the media praise  for Ian Murphy (the guy who made the crank call to Governor Scott Walker) this is who they are fawning over right now….. New Lefty Hero Blogger Who Pranked WI Gov Says “F*ck the Troops,” Calls Them Rapists Who “Volunteer to Murder People”… F**k The Troops – By Ian Murphy:  

So, 4000 rubes are dead. Cry me the Tigris. Another 30,000 have been seriously wounded. Boo fucking hoo. They got what they asked for—and cool robotic limbs, too.

Likely, just reading the above paragraph made you uncomfortable. But why?

The benevolence of America’s “troops” is sacrosanct. Questioning their rectitude simply isn’t done. It’s the forbidden zone. We may rail against this tragic war, but our soldiers are lauded by all as saints. Why? They volunteered to partake in this savage idiocy, and for this they deserve our utmost respect? I think not.

The nearly two-thirds of us who know this war is bullshit need to stop sucking off the troops. They get enough action raping female soldiers and sodomizing Iraqi detainees. The political left is intent on “supporting” the troops by bringing them home, which is a good thing. But after rightly denouncing the administration’s lies and condemning this awful war, relatively sensible pundits—like Keith Olbermann—turn around and lovingly praise the soldiers’ brave service to the country. Why?

What service are they providing? I don’t remember ordering 300,000 dead Iraqis—although I was doing a lot of heavy narcotics back in ‘03. Our soldiers are not providing a service to the country, they’re providing a service to a criminal administration and their oil company cronies. When a mafia don orders a hit, is the assassin absolved of personal responsibility when it’s carried out? Of course not. What if the hit man was fooled into service? We’d all say, “Tough shit, you dumb Guido,” then lock him up and throw away the key.

As a society, we need to discard our blind deference to military service. There’s nothing admirable about volunteering to murder people. There’s nothing admirable about being rooked by obvious propaganda. There’s nothing admirable about doing what you’re told if what you’re told to do is terrible. (read more)

This is written by the guy they are using right now to drive their agenda.  You see, the liberal left doesn’t care one bit what his personal hate filled views are so long as they fit their political agenda of the moment.  So they are using the words and actions of a rabid military hater, and leftist ideologue, to advance their cause against Scott Walker in Wisconsin.  These progressives will get in bed with anyone so long as it advances their narrative. Period.   Even CNN will give this guy credibility.  Sickening, but this is how entrenched they are with their need to advance against common sense conservative thought……/SD

Watch This Video (Click Here)

Biden Meets With AFL-CIO Boss Richard Trumka… Public schedule of Vice President Joe Biden for Thursday, Feb. 24:

At 10:45 AM, the Vice President and Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis will meet with President of the AFL-CIO Richard Trumka and with presidents of AFL-CIO labor organizations.

Whatever do you suppose they’re plotting inside this transparent Obama administration White House?

Former Obama Czar Van Jones for Massive Leftist Protests on Saturday… Over at the Huffington Post, Van Jones has issued a call for the country to spread the “spirit of Madison” to all 50 states in a massive day of action scheduled for Saturday, February 26. “The truth is that we don’t live Bangladesh or Malawi. America is not a poor country,” Jones writes. “The public has just been hypnotized into believing that the richest and most creative nation on Earth has only two choices in this crisis: massive austerity (as championed by the Tea Party/Republicans) or SEMI-massive austerity (as meekly offered by too many DC Democrats).   It is ridiculous.” (article)

 And their strategy is to put the Thugs right in front of the Tea Partiers and create crisis.  They will fight this battle until every last one of them is dead or they win. !!

(The Hill) — Democratic strategists believe their Tea Party moment has arrived.Working with labor unions and liberal groups, they are using the Presidents Day congressional recess to organize a public backlash against billions of dollars in cuts to federal programs.

One labor organizer said that members have been urged to attend congressional town hall meetings to ask Republican lawmakers “pointed questions” about the cuts they supported last week.

“We are targeting various House Republicans in town hall meetings during the recess to let them know these budget cuts are beyond the pale,” said the labor source, who added that it has been difficult to mobilize supporters to public question-and-answer sessions with lawmakers because “they’ve been pretty circumspect in giving out information about the meetings.”

Justin Ruben, the executive director of MoveOn.org, a progressive advocacy group, has also encouraged members to grill lawmakers at town hall meetings.  “Whenever we hear about a town hall meeting we encourage them to go and ask pointed questions about what is happening,” he said.

Conservative strategists used town hall meetings in August of 2009 to raise loud public protests against the healthcare bill Democrats were pushing through Congress.  (full article)

—————-  Remember How Important Wisconsin Is ———————-

h/t JenniferH (The Week) Union protesters in Wisconsin claim that a threat to democracy has risen in their midst. Placards appearing at their rallies equate Gov. Scott Walker to such dictators as Hosni Mubarack and Benito Mussolini. Even more of the signage warns that Walker is a new Adolf Hitler. One Democratic state senator said on camera that Walker has already begun treading down Hitler’s path. “Adolf Hitler, in 1933,” Lena Taylor instructed the interviewer, “abolished the unions, and that is what our governor is doing today.” 

Put aside for the moment the nonsense of equating a newly elected governor’s offering a bill which was fully outlined during the campaign to Germany’s Holocaust-launching, World II-inciting führer. The union protesters are correct. There is a threat to democracy in Wisconsin. The real threat to democracy is the state Senate Democrats who fled Wisconsin.

The true test of a representative democracy comes not in an election, but in the aftermath of an election. If the losing party or parties recognize their loss and continue to participate in the process of governance, then representative democracy works. When the losing side refuses to participate and boycotts governance, especially in such a manner that vital legislative work is obstructed, then representative democracy itself is threatened.

There are those who argue that the filibuster in the U.S. Senate is a precedent for the Wisconsin Walkout. But the filibuster exists by rule in the Senate. Both parties have endorsed the rule and both have relied on it to gain bargaining power while in the minority. The rules surrounding the filibuster can and do get adjusted occasionally in order to limit abuses, such as those modest reforms that gained a consensus at the beginning of this session. Whether one supports the filibuster or not, it is a well-regulated process that forms the accepted ground rules of the U.S. Senate.

The Wisconsin state Senate does not have a boycott rule. The state’s constitution requires a simple majority for a quorum on most business and a three-fifths majority for a quorum when it comes to budgetary matters. That quorum requirement exists to ensure that the majority party cannot meet without notice and pass budgets in the dark of night without debate and dissent. Until now, it has never been used to block a majority from merely opening debate on a budget bill.

The Wisconsin Walkout contains equal parts arrogance and hypocrisy. Mark Miller, one of the runaway legislators who fled from Wisconsin to Illinois, complained that Walker didn’t negotiate with the unions when proposing his bill, and that “in democracy, you negotiate.” But Walker isn’t proposing a new contract with the unions — he’s proposing changes to the law and to the budget for the state of Wisconsin. The proper forum for negotiating legislation and budgets is the state legislature, and the proper principals for those debates are the elected public officials of Wisconsin’s government, not the unions. In fact, it’s rather telling that Miller would abdicate that role to the unions rather than to his own caucus in the legislature.

Furthermore, the Republicans who control the legislature had prepared to debate the bill. The schedule called for 17 hours of debate on the changes, which have percolated since Walker campaigned on budgetary and public-sector reform last year with these specific proposals. Democrats in the state Senate have prevented the proper exercise of negotiations by denying Wisconsin a quorum in their upper chamber.

And why? the Democrats who fled know they will lose. Instead of facing defeat, they have chosen to hold representative democracy itself hostage, and demand that the minority rule the majority as their terms.

The fleeing Democrats have essentially stolen the will of the public and their right to self-governance. Wisconsin voters elected Republicans to majorities in both chambers and Walker as their executive by convincing margins. The minority in a representative democracy has a right to be heard, but does not have the right to stop the process of governance by shutting down the legislature. In essence, those state senators who went on the lam have attempted to overturn the last election through unprecedented and illegal obstruction and dereliction of duty. They have demonstrated the haughty arrogance of those who refuse to accept their role as public servants and instead make themselves into autocrats.

If Republicans overreached with their budget-repair bill and unfairly restricted the rights of unions, then let Democrats go on record opposing the bill and make it the centerpiece of the next legislative election in Wisconsin. Under the circumstances, though, the Democrats who have tried to hijack democracy in order to dictate terms should be the ones who fear the next election the most.

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30 Responses to Democrats Will Win or DIE in Wisconsin…. The Liberal Kadaffi Approach

  1. Jennifer H says:

    These people cannot be allowed to get away with this, should they suceed our Republic is finished.
    “When the losing side refuses to participate and boycotts governance, especially in such a manner that vital legislative work is obstructed, then representative democracy itself is threatened.”

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  2. GracieD says:

    What concerns me, is the possibility that the Repubs do not fully realize just how serious this battle is, and what is at stake. I have a gut wrenching fear that they will go wobbly on us, and give in to “keep the peace”. If they do our Republic is toast.

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  3. G8rMom7 says:

    Here is what I worry about…in an attempt to try and do the right thing they will totally be unreasonable and throw the baby out with the bathwater so to speak. For instance, I was just talking to one of my teacher friends who IS a conservative. We were actually talking about out-of-zone because my oldest wants to go to a high school that is out of our zone. She said “I really like Gov. Scott but I am going to get screwed in all these changes he wants.” She said she has no problem contributing to her pension and understands that teachers need to do their part just like the private sector but her point is “can I get a good 401K like the private sector?…no.”

    My point is that along with making the tough decisions we can’t just stop there, we need to find good free market solutions so that these GOOD people in unions will see that they don’t need these unions to make their working lives better. There are free market solutions for them and all they have to do is take a leap of faith like the rest of us do.

    I hope I am clear in what I’m trying to say…I’m not sure I am.

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    • You make perfect sense. You want to make sure Teachers and public workers have decent pay/benefit options if not connected to a union. That is completely rational, and I think virtually everyone would agree with you.

      The disconnect is in the mind of the public sector worker who has no ‘real’ understanding of the free market challenges. Freedom is great, but competition can be concerning and scary. The union folk have avoided any need to confront those “fears” behind the safety of their public union. However, the fundamental flaw in the system is no-one represents the taxpayer at the bargaining table. That really is the big problem.

      No-one is sitting at the table saying “whoaa – those considerations are unsustainable in the long term”. Hence the local gov’t and the unions decide everything without considering what can actually be afforded, and the consequences to the general tax base of the decisions they reach. If you put a general taxpayer advocate at the table you would not have such generous unsustainable agreements being reached.

      This is the understanding the “teacher” or any public sector worker is missing. There are fundamental flaws of unsustainability built into their previous contracts…. That is what these governors are trying to address.

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      • G8rMom7 says:

        Yes…very true Sundance. I’m such a simpleton sometimes…I just wish that the property taxes I pay that go to schools could just eliminated with the agreement I will use those funds on educating my kids. I could then take that money to whatever school I want and give it them to educate my kids. In that kind of system the cream would rise to the top and the crappy schools and teachers would end up having to find other jobs or be really really cheap choices for parents who would rather spend their money on new HD TV’s than their kids edumacation. Stossel did a show on this and I think it was Belgium where they had a system like this and the kids and schools were all doing better.

        I even shared this concept with one of liberal friends who is a teacher and she was thoughtful and said “that is a great idea”. Wish it was mine of course.

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        • I agree, but I would tweak that just a bit. I think that poor kids should be given an equal opportunity for a great education. So, this is one area where I agree with the public as a whole funding the education of children. At a state level, I would have the state determine a dollar amount per student that it is able to spend towards k-12 education. Then, let schools compete openly for students, with no unconstitutional limitations on the free speech of the teachers. If a parent chooses to send their child to a Christian school, for example, there is no reason why they should be denied public funding. The first public schools in this country were created to teach the Bible to children.

          in 1635 the Puritans established America’s first public school, [89] and in 1647 passed America’ first public education law (“The Old Deluder Satan Act” [90]).

          I have little doubt that “conservative” schools would end up winning in an open and free marketplace. That’s already happening with Charter Schools.

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  4. The Bell Trolls For Thee! says:

    YOU GUYS WERE BUSTED! ADMIT IT! TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW, BUT SUCK IT UP, COWARDS! WALKER WAS PLANNING ON SENDING “TROUBLEMAKERS” TO MAKE IT LOOK AS IF THE UNION WAS VIOLENT!
    WALKER SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF THE DUMBEST BUTT-KISSERS EVER! THE REPORTER DIDN’T EVEN GIVE A GOOD IMPRESSION OF ONE OF THE KOCH BROS! ADMIT IT!

    Baby Troll

    ya’ll play nice with the Troll

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    • G8rMom7 says:

      Aww, a little toe-headed troll with little peachfuzz on top. But seriously, the reason I think this is a computer generated message is why would a troll, use the word “troll” in their screen name? This one was even obvious enough for me!

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  5. G8rMom7 says:

    Nothing like a screaming troll out of nowhere to make you chuckle. Actually, I’m guessing it’s one of those automatic robot type responders? In any case, thanks for the laugh.

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  6. GracieD says:

    Well bless your little troll heart…I heard the “conversation” but not a word about Walker sending “troublemakers”. His problem would be going wobbly and giving in, not sending “troublemakers”. That would be Zippy’s style, not Walker’s. Rush says the Left always accuses you of exactly what they are planning to do. This will backfire on them, BIG TIME. It will backfire most severely with the Indies. People are much more intelligent than the Left gives them credit for. YOU have failed YET AGAIN little troll. Go tell your lefty friends that we don’t play their games. We play by our own rules, and see no need to share with you and yours what they are. Ta Ta now!

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  7. YTZ4Me says:

    Regarding Mr. Murphy’s “column” —
    this has been the position of the Left for years. In spite of their attempts to camoflage it, this is truly what they believe and think.

    I remember when four dear friends and colleagues of the Studmuffin died in training accident while they were carrier qualifying in the work-up before Kosovo. It was around the same time that the SwissAir flight 111 went down over the Atlantic off the coast of Nova Scotia.

    There was wall-to-wall coverage of the loss of life in the civilian accident, but no media coverage of the loss of four naval aviators.

    My died-in-the-wool rabid Democrat sister-in-law called me the day before the memorial service for our four fallen brothers and sisters. I explained how upset I was that no one noticed, or cared, about their deaths, and contrasted it to the non-stop coverage about the Swissair flight.

    Her comment? (Note: it was her younger, and only brother, who was supposed to be on that training flight where there was 100% loss of life of the flight crew due to a failure on the flight deck on the carrier)

    “Well, they signed up to die”.

    That pretty much sums it up for me.

    They don’t understand, and they don’t respect, the voluntary sacrifice.

    So they can sleep under the blanket of freedom and liberty.

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    • Wow. Just Wow. Beyond a heartless remark.. ugh, ugh, ugh… An evil entrenched ideology…. Thank God there are more of us than them.

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    • Sharon says:

      Tonight the announcement was made on the local news that a well known lib radio personality in the area is headed to Texas on Monday for removal of a serious brain tumor. Checked my heart when I heard it and found that, yes indeed, I had compassion for him. We simpletons on the right just value life and care when people are hurting or frightened. I used to think that with the left, it was just carelessness or bad habits that they acted so uncaring about people in general. Now unfortunately, I know for a fact that they truly do– not– care.

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    • Ad rem says:

      Wow…..what goes on inside the head of someone like that? What could have possibly happened in her life that could have engendered such a complete and callous disregard for life? I tell ya…I simply don’t get these people.

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  8. freedom1781 says:

    “…relatively sensible pundits—like Keith Olbermann…”

    Are you freakin’ kidding me!!! My blood pressure went up as I read that idiot’s “article.” I have friends and family in the military and I was highly offended. That idiot doesn’t have the balls to go fight and die for the country that gives him the freedom to be an idiot. “Volunteer to kill people…” I wonder what this moron thinks about killing unborn babies? I’m sure he’s fine with that. Punk.

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