Deep Water

We are indeed a “divided America”. Both with Deep Water…

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81 Responses to Deep Water

  1. A good man, that Paul Harvey. A modern-day Bill Stern.
    Paul’s telling God “The rest of the story.” ;-)

    Lucifer was not amused when he caught wind of this…

  2. ytz4mee says:

    Yep. I was deeply offended by the Jeep commercial, but it didn’t lead me to tweeting profanities about it. We’re selling our Jeep and we will never, ever buy another.

  3. Sharon says:

    The farmer one was rather revealing, I thought: they want to be “in the mix of it” in a marketing context where progs gather, and make a bunch of money–but then their message is the farmer–which to me is an acknowledgement of what they know is so….that it’s not the progs who make the country run.

    The potty-mouthed twitters are not aware, of course, that the farmers and their ilk are the ones who have most of the guns and genuinely know how to use them (and never look stupid doing so–once they’re past the age of 8 or so). They might want to remember that.

    • ytz4mee says:

      Haters gotta hate. They can’t help themselves.

    • michellc says:

      And they have all the food.

      Don’t tell them about the guns though, it’s our little secret.

    • kinthenorthwest says:

      My gutt tells me the twitters were young liberals…
      And if nothing else part of the younger generation…
      Seems that our country is losing any moral values it might have had…

      • janc1955 says:

        I can’t imagine why an ad like that would engender such a vicious, vulgar response. What the hell are people so afraid of? It’s a similar response to those from people who never want to hear, read or contemplate the words “God,” “Jesus,” or “Christian.” Someone should inform all the tough guys with the gutter mouths their cowardice is showing.

  4. rooferx says:

    The fact that they don’t know that it is “RAM” not “Dodge Ram” is enough for me to know their level of intelligence on trucks….Ram dropped the Dodge label in 2010 model year.

  5. akathesob says:

    smh!

  6. kinthenorthwest says:

    I was not offended by either one..Both Dodge and Jeep used politics for their points.
    The farmer one is pointant to me, because it reminds me of how few real farmers there are out there any more…Does anyone realize that at one time our country was quite self sufficient…Now even most of our fresh produce come from outside our borders…
    I feel the Jeep did a good job of praising our military..
    Just my two cents…

  7. PatriotUSA says:

    How sad… I have no problem with the commercials, DODGE or Rams trucks, or Jeeps. I have owned Ford, GMC, Chevy, Dodge trucks, Jeeps. Give me an old Power Wagon any day, V-8, 318, 383, 440, 413, 426, International Travelall or pick up 4×4. A damn cornbinder!

    I have the utmost respect for farmers, ranchers, loggers, miners, roughnecks, off shore oil workers, fishermen and women, those who KNOW the land and sea by getting down and dirty, right into, under, over (top faller, faller,and yeah I did that long time ago).

    Those babies piss all over themselves over a couple of commercials and yet the half time show was a borderline porn show by beyonce. Hack and spit. My freind and I went outside for a ceegar we got so disgusted by her and her antics. Their have revealed themselves as haters and intolerant.

    Color me me old school with morals, ethnics, honor, integrity, trust, love of our Republic, Constitution, what the Founding Fathers gave us and WARNED us about.

    • kinthenorthwest says:

      We are praying for an older gentleman at church who is probably the last of his family of famers. I heard he was like 3rd or ??? maybe more…His kids are all city folk and not interested in the hard life of farming…(Dont blame the kids). Sabbath I was thinking about how we are losing so much of what we used to consider America.
      Guess that is why i enjoyed the commercial..

      • justfactsplz says:

        Those kids would not be eating if it weren’t for farmers. I am happy to say my family is still in the business , four going on five generations.

        • kinthenorthwest says:

          But it isn’t really an easy life…is it..

          • justfactsplz says:

            No, but they say it is very rewarding. I moved away from their many years ago and am not part of that life anymore but I do miss it.

          • michellc says:

            It kind of depends on what you call easy. There is a lot of hard work involved and anymore few are able to be just farmers and have other jobs or businesses.
            It’s a life though I wouldn’t trade for all the gold in the world. God has truly blessed us.

            • kinthenorthwest says:

              In small group study we are studying The Blessing of Adversity by Barry Black who is the Senate …its an awesome book and a very easy read…

  8. Lou says:

    I used to love listening to Paul Harvey on AFN when I served as part of NATO in Europe. One must understand the demise of the family farmer though due to subsidies to corporate farmers. Earl Butz killed the American farmer. I don’t think either party understands this though. Paul Harvey was a good man.

  9. maggiemoowho says:

    I have rewritten this post and erased it 4 times because there are just to many things to say about why I like this commercial and I’m having a hard time putting it into words(not sure why).
    To make it simple, Kudos to Chrysler for standing up for their beliefs by including God in their ad and for honoring the American Farmer, we cannot survive without them and many people don’t even know just how much America depends on our farmers.

    • kinthenorthwest says:

      That was another GREAT Aspect of the commercial…How often do we hear the word God positively on TV or in the movies any more…
      thanks for reminding me.
      God Bless

    • Ad rem says:

      Regretfully, about the only time we hear God mentioned on TV anymore is when someone like Beyonce screams….”Oh, gawd!”, or some idiot wins the Powerball. :-(

      • maggiemoowho says:

        Maybe other companies will follow Chrysler and include God. We need him in our lives and America needs him to survive(sorry about the rhyme, didn’t mean for that).

        • Ad rem says:

          I happened to be channel-surfing this morning, when I alit on CNN because they were discussing this very commercial. They opined that the only reason they thought people were attracted to it was probably because of it’s high production values….ie. pretty pictures. Absolutely no mention of the thought or sentiments behind it, however. Bleeping azzhats. :evil:
          ADD….then they went on to spend the next 15 min. drooling over all things Beyonce. Booty over brains…..

          • maggiemoowho says:

            Shallow ignorant people. People with values and faith are going extinct. Really sad.

            • ytz4mee says:

              No, but they need you to believe that, and I fear it may be working.
              Just because they shout really loudly and are bullies, doesn’t mean that they are the majority, but they are successful at intimidating others into giving up their resoluteness.

              • maggiemoowho says:

                We can’t ever give up. Sometimes there just seems like there is so much hate in this world and when tht happens I just have to remind myself that there is much more good than evil. :)

          • ytz4mee says:

            No, it was a mop-up procedure.
            Target, freeze, marginalize, ridicule.
            Lather, rinse, repeat.
            And then segue into something of no consequence/value that what you want people to remember.
            Hence, Beyonce booty call.

    • ytz4mee says:

      One of the reasons that the unhinged Progs reacted so violently to this commercial is precisely because of what you posted.

      The commercial was loaded with iconography and semiotics that were designed to provoke powerful – and subconscious – feelings, attachments and allegiances.

      The reason the Progs are enraged is because those feelings, attachments and allegiances are representative of an America that they felt they vanquished last November, and in their minds, teh Won’s second term is some minor housekeeping to finalize their “new Reich”. They don’t like reminders that they are not triumphant, nor transcendent, and the commercial was a threatening rebuttal to their belief that everyone sees the world they way they do.

    • PatriotUSA says:

      You stated it just fine.

  10. LHlaredo says:

    Well I think this is more interesting that a comercial………….

    On Monday, a bipartisan group of 11 senators — led by Democrat Ron Wyden of Oregon — wrote a letter to President Barack Obama asking him to release all Justice Department memos on the subject. While accepting that “there will clearly be circumstances in which the president has the authority to use lethal force” against Americans who take up arms against the country, it said, “It is vitally important … for Congress and the American public to have a full understanding of how the executive branch interprets the limits and boundaries of this authority.”

    http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/04/16843014-exclusive-justice-department-memo-reveals-legal-case-for-drone-strikes-on-americans

  11. howie says:

    Well they had the white russians. And the red ones.

  12. Sharon says:

    Why would anybody would anyone with some sense of personal decency even watch beyonce. It’s not liike the content and character of the show isn’t completely predictable.

  13. czarowniczy says:

    As both retired military and a farmer I wasn’t really offended by either ad – I lost all feeling and respect for the corporate ad community and corporate marketers decades ago. We are a consumer-driven country, our economy is set to where if we don’t buy buy buy on credit we will fall off the real economic cliff. The ad people and the marketing people in the companies would bleed their children on stage if it would increase their viewers-who-don’t-go-to-the-bathroom share and corporate sales by at least a hair. Ad people and marketers are vermin just as God, nature or the municipal sewerage plant made them, just like the ones in my feed shed with the exception that i have respect for the latter. Scurrilous rat bastards have been using soldiers as ad draws for man years – hey, didn’t the POtuS do that too? See how it works.

    I wouldn’t buy Chrysler as, in the 70s when they were going under, they got Congress to buy many upon many poorly made Chrysler pos pickup trucks that ended up killing and maiming many GIs due to crappy workmanship. They were so bad that the local Chrysler dealers were forbidden to service them and the AMSA vehicle repair shops on posts were swamped with the broken trash and Chrysler got the DoD to give them more cash to repair what should have been solid in the first place. Look how fast Mercedes-Benz bailed on them – Oprah or not.

    • ytz4mee says:

      I understand that, but your work training has afforded you the insight into what is really going on.

      Others, not so much.

      I will give them credit. They are very good at setting the stage in the public mind for what they view as inevitable.

      • czarowniczy says:

        Marketing/advertising folks are a great danger to society as a whole. They use scientific methods to sell everything from toothpicks to that POtuS we have in the White House. I do not think that many of the voters who voted for Him were in love with him as much as they were in love with the carefully constructed artificiality the marketing businesses the DNC hired created. Too late for ‘buyer’s remose’ at this point though I might support an Amendment to the Constitution that would function as a ‘lemon law’.

    • lovemygirl says:

      I bought a Chrysler for my wife because it was built on a Mercedes 560 platform. Now that it has aged, the electrical etc. is going but the body is still solid. Her replacement looks to be the most American built, A Toyota.

      • lovemygirl says:

        Don’t know about the 560 typo, gee, if we only had edit. :)

      • czarowniczy says:

        Yep, Mercedes bailed so quickly that the press didn’t have time to construct an apologetic response. The Feds bought those soldier-killing M880 vehicles from Chrysler because Chrysler owned the sole plant in the US that turned out tanks. Actually that’s the BS excuse the Feds used, someone would have taken over that plant in a heartbeat but Chrysler ALLEGEDLY started throwing $$$ around to Congresspersons and suddenly we had new vehicles that were injuring the troops driving them.

  14. boricuafudd says:

    Those adds are all about making people think that these companies love America or the American Way. They realize that the Urban areas which are dictating policy for everyone else will buy their product. This a pretentious way to say we love you, when in reality they are saying we need you. This is something that Conservative forget, yet it is something that Liberals exploit at every opportunity, their buying power. Money moves our economy around, if Conservatives made a conscientious effort to exercise their buying, spending power starting with Hollywood and mass media we can assert pressure to a least balance the playing field. Unfortunately, this is an area that we are failing on, so the message is always one sided.

    We are losing the Cultural War not because our message is bad, but because we are refusing to fight the war. The funny thing is that when all is said and done Liberals are left empty, they seek causes, alternative religions, psychics. aliens. vampire, zombies, government in an effort to fill the void that would be filled by religion.

    • Sharon says:

      “This is something that Conservative forget,” Not this conservative. That’s why I seldom watch ads, and why the only way I saw some of these super bowl ads was by going and finding them today.

      • boricuafudd says:

        Sharon, no offense but that is part of the problem, is not good enough to not watch tv for instance, we need to demand as Liberals do so well, to demand and expect a product to consume. If not what happens is as we have seen lately, is that what is produced is done without regard to our beliefs or stands, the producers know that it will either be ignored or we won’t be watching anyway. So they get a free pass and we lose our power. For example anytime that there is a program with middle of the road or conservative views Liberals will protest and ask, why are there no or enough minorities, why are there no Lgbt despicted, etc. It does not matter if it makes sense to the story but they do it and most often than not are successful in their demands. We need to be as pro-active.

        • Sharon says:

          Oh. Ok. A few million have gone to Washington to march–very pro-active. Didn’t change a thing.

          We’ve been marching in pro-life rallies and attending pro-life events for over 20 years (speaking for myself). Given financially to support pregnancy crisis centers and opposed abortion clinics. Doesn’t change a thing, because the media doesn’t cover what we do.

          More organization. More marches. Do more. It’s never enough.

          We “lose our power”???? What power would that be? Normal living doesn’t cast a lot of heat and light.

          Who should we scream at to insist on more of what we want? The heads of the alphabets?

          “Conservatives made a conscientious effort to exercise their buying, spending power starting with Hollywood and mass media” We have done precisely that. In 30 years, we’ve entered amovie theatre one time, last year to see 2016. They don’t get my money.

          Mass media? Just had our cable disconnected three days ago.

          I am one who spends more money on conservative books than on any other form of media….but I guess it’s not enough?

          I truly do not know what we’re supposed to do. It’s never enough.

          I think I’ll just break some things and turn Amish. I’m really getting tired of being informed, again and again and again and again, that it’s just never enough.

          I always wonder if those who are always saying it’s never enough feel guilty? Or are they living in a dream world where, if we do this “just right,” everything will fall out our way.

          Sorry…..bori…..this isn’t personal at you, but it is in response to your comment.

          • boricuafudd says:

            Sharon I can sense your frustration, let me tell that I too share some of those feelings. I am not ready to give up, though.

            After the election, for a while I stop commenting here for a while, I took a trip to Puerto Rico to look after some properties there and think about some things.

            I kept track of the site, but I was not ready to start commenting yet, I was angry, sad, worried, and frustrated. I did not understand why we had lost, I had to step out it all and evaluate everything.

            I spoke to a lot people on both coasts, talked to friends from the Army overseas and came to the realization that Conservatives are doomed unless we take the fight to Liberals.

            I watched a lot TV to get a sense pop culture today, and I compared it to TV shows that I watched when I was younger. I was shocked at what was on TV, I watched Glee and saw kids who are supposed to be between 16 and 18 depicted as gay, lesbian, transgender in sexual relationships, with no misgivings or messages about any dangers in that type of behaviour. All of this was hidden in plain site by having the cast perform pop songs throughout the show.

            During this time I also reread some books, I was a Grisham fan but I saw that all his “good guys” were in essence flawed people. In Time to A Kill, the defendant who is black kills 2 KKK thugs and wounds a detective who gets his leg amputated, because the thugs raped his daughter. Now the message was not that the defendant should go free because he did what some fathers would do in the same circumstances, given the chance, but that he should be freed because he was black and the people he shot were white racists. That was very disturbing to me.

            I could go on but you get the picture. The point is that we are inundated with messages that makes White and Conservative people the devil. Pointing out the hypocrisy in media is a start and I thank Breihart for that but the fight needs to be taken to them, please do not ask me how, I really not sure how but I know that I can not give up. My kids and grandkids depend on it.

            • Sharon says:

              Well, I guess my part of taking it to the progs is just going to have to be taking care of the ‘smores supplies, helping with the campfire when necessary and occasionally passing out extra blankets when it’s a cold night in the Tree, because I am already doing absolutely everything I know to do.

              In the last 36 months I have deliberately done more and spent more political/oriented money doing what I know to do than I have ever done or spent in my life on political issues.

              I don’t have property anywhere except a mortgage on the property that’s under our house. It’s about 16 months since I stopped using the pseudonym Emma in my writing on the site, and went with my given name, Sharon. I figured that was absolutely the least I could do in terms of personal courage and taking a stand where I am.

              The house is probably a vapor though, isn’t it, since now the raging comments on conservative financial sites are, “Oh, you’ve got to get out debt! Really! The crash is coming, and you can’t have any debt.” Oh. Ok. I’ll get right on that.

              The hours at Home Depot where DH has a part job have just been cut by about 30%. I’m already doing everything I can, more than I’ve ever done in my life–and when the conversation veers toward “We’re not doing enough, we have to do more, we’re not doing it right” I don’t deal with it very well.

              Thanks for your response. I do appreciate it. I’m beyond frustrated.

              • boricuafudd says:

                Sharon I share your frustrations, I think what I mean is that we must not give up. We all need to do what we can. Its hard to see how some have given up, and that is what I am referring to.
                Thank you for engaging me, it helps to get my thoughts straight.

                • Sharon says:

                  Intentional conversation that goes beyond everyone just firing off one-liners is a conscious goal for the Treehouse. Your willingness to be engaged is a fine thing.

                  Once again, I guess I’m missing something, because I’m not aware of people giving up. I am aware of people becoming angrier, more informed and more focused, but I don’t suppose that necessarily means more effective.

          • michellc says:

            I trade with the Amish/Mennonites and without television they are more informed than over half the country. Which in my opinion is just more proof people choose to stay uninformed. They dislike and distrust Obama as much as we do.
            A brother(I doubt a blood brother, but a brother in Christ as that is the way they speak all the time) in Pennsylvania drove his buggy to the store. When he came out of the store he noticed an older woman staring at his horse and then turned her mean stare to him and informed him he needed to give his horse water before he returned home. He told her, “thank you for your concern, but he will be fine.” He headed on home and heard someone behind me and saw that this woman and her husband was following him. It irked him for them being busybodies and he knew his horse. So he slowed his horse down to barely a walk thinking driving so slow they’d give up and turn around. Instead they followed him all the way home. He unhooked his horse, brushed him and let his horse go. The horse walked right by the water trough straight to the barn. He then turned to the man and woman glaring at him and waved and smiled at them.

            The mennonite telling me the story then said that the busybody woman was an Obama voter, Obama and Obama voters, know nothing about taking care of animals but they want to tell to someone who does how to care for their animal. Obama and his voters know nothing of how to farm yet they want to tell a farmer how to farm. Know nothing of running a business but want to tell businesses how to run their business. They don’t believe in God’s word but want to tell you how you should act according to God’s word. Know nothing about guns but want to tell you which ones you can own. Obama and Obama voters want to be busybodies and police everyone because busybodies want to butt their nose into everybody’s business and cause mayhem so they can have a sense of control to make up for the hole in their heart.

            So I would say without television, without electricity, he showed he was more informed than over half the country.

            • boricuafudd says:

              I get your point, but I think you missed mine. It not only a question of staying informed, the problem is that TV is a medium that helps to dictate, and influence people in our country. If we allow that medium to be a message board only for Progressive views all of the time, we are not going to make any headway. Is like going to war without an Air Force. We are getting bombed daily, and we have no way of protecting ourselves. Any ground we make, we lose by the constant bombardment.

              • michellc says:

                I was actually just replying about the Amish and how people choose to be uninformed or misinformed. Amish don’t sit in front of the tv, yet even they can’t escape reality and they see Obama and his cohorts for what they are.
                Especially since the election we hear of doing a better job of getting the message out. If people don’t want to hear the message, it’s really pretty useless.
                That imho is the biggest problem, people have either given up and think if they ignore it and remain deaf it isn’t really happening or they’re willing to lose some freedoms if it means they’ll have a false sense of security, government just trying to keep them safe and then you have those who only care about their own wants and needs. Such as all those who wanted Obamacare because they wanted the government providing them free insurance although many of them are finding out not only are they not going to receive free insurance they’re either going to lose their insurance that their employer picks up at least part of the cost if not the majority of the cost or they’re insurance is going to cost more than they can afford and soon they’ll learn they’ll also pay a fine(tax) because they can’t afford it.
                Some people live in reality and use common sense, others live in what they want reality to be and use no common sense.
                Anyway I laughed at his story, because it’s just so darn ridiculous that people have nothing better to do than follow an Amish man miles out of town because he didn’t do as they wanted. Chances are that was probably as close to a horse as they had ever came and chances are it probably had a lot to do with they just don’t like seeing a horse used for one of it’s purposes and thought they could intimidate an Amish man.

                • boricuafudd says:

                  My apologies, you are correct and the story about the Amish farmer is not only funny but very indicative of the problem.

                  I had a somewhat similar story, I was driving down a county road a horse that had jumped the fence, ran in front of my car and got hit. I had no chance to react, and avoid the animal. Luckily for both of us, none got badly hurt the horse just kept running away, the car got another dent. About 5 miles down the road as I was pullling in the gas station this car slows down and a lady starts yelling obscenities at me about mistreating animals because she saw the incident an assumed it was my fault. No care was given that I had 2 small kids in the backseat, who where still in shock, she wanted to excoriate me for not moving out of the way of the horse.

  15. lovemygirl says:

    Have a short story that I will make longer than need be concerning the new immigrants. Gee, a nice “family oriented” family, minus Dad is renting next door to where I moved out of. Things have gone missing and I ask but of course they knew nothing. Finishing up my move out I was walking to the new place (4 blocks away, not a big move) and low and behold was a top end snow shovel laying by their sidewalk that I hadn’t seen for a year. I buy top end stuff like the $2,500 Husqvarna snowblower and if I recall, a $50+ shovel for detail work and the steps. I just picked it up and took it to the new house. I had a run in with these family oriented people who stole the kids water toys, pushed them into the mud and then either pretended they did not speak English or lied to our faces as did their kids. The NEW America does not look like the old one.

    Sorry about that rant, but a neighbor you talk to every other day is either unaware her pre teen boys steal snow shovels or, what is more likely, is she condones it. What preteen boy wants a snow shovel? I’m guessing my missing AX and other things are in there garage too.

  16. lovemygirl says:

    The Farmer ad was ‘Mailboxes and Old barns’

  17. Excuse my horrible pun, but those tweeters above with their vile comments really should just “get out of Dodge”.

  18. ZurichMike says:

    Of course, I had to wait for the ads to be posted to see. Here is a link to all of them:
    http://www.youtube.com/adblitz?feature=inp-lt-adb

    In my opinion, these are the “winners”

    Best Product Reinforcement: Doritos (it’s all about about the product, which many creative agencies seem to forget)
    Most Informative (without being preachy): Prudential
    Best self-irony: the Go Daddy commercial with the intersplicing of a conversation by several couples around the world
    Cleverest: rhythmic compilation of CBS comedy shows (and the “thank you” ad from CBS), the Big Bang Theory gang in football gear
    Most Artistic: the black and white Calvin Klein ad (must be nice to have 4% body fat)
    Best Emotive: the Budweiser baby Clydesdale ad (soooooooo cute)
    Worst Emotive: Jeep Ad with Oprah Winfrey warbling about the military coming home (irony: Jeep is now owned by the Chinese)

  19. Reblogged this on Thepoliticalchef's Blog and commented:
    LOVE this commercial, said I would actually buy a Dodge truck after watching that commercial!

  20. ed357 says:

    For all the stupid people dissing FARMERS……….

    When we don’t have anymore farmers………..

    where will you idiots get your food?

    • kinthenorthwest says:

      I am not dishing farmers…I Highly respect them…
      However due to the decline in Farmers we are more and more dependent on outside sources for a good portion of our produce…
      I think the farmer’s life is one of the hardest life around…

  21. waltherppk says:

    And on the eighth day God looked down on his planned paradise and said, I need someone that can flip this for a fast buck.

    So God made a banker.

    God said, I need someone who does not grow anything or make anything who will borrow money from the public at 0% interest and then lend it back to them at 2% or 5% or 10% and pay himself a bonus for doing so.

    So God Made a banker

    God said, I will need someone who will take the money from people who work and save, and use that money to create a dotcom bubble, a housing bubble. an oil bubble, and a debt bubble, a stock bubble, and another stock bubble and then sell it to people all over America and pay himself another bonus

    So God made a banker

    God said, I need someone to lend money to people with bad credit at 30% interest in order to get their stock price up, then just before the loans turn bad cash out their stock and walk away. And who when asked later will, with a tearful eye ,say the government made him do it

    So God made a banker

    God said I need someone to build homes in the swamps and deserts using shoddy materials with other peoples money and then use these homes as collateral for a Ponzi scheme he can sell to pensioners in California and Michigan and Sweden. I need some one who will foreclose on these homes kick out the occupants and switch off the air conditioning and plumbing and watch the house turn back into dirt and then pay himself another bonus

    So God made a banker

    God said, I need somebody who will tell everyone else to stand on their own two feet but who will then run to the government for a bailout as soon as he gets in trouble and who will then use bailout money to help elect a congress that will look the other way and then pay themselves another bonus

    So God made a banker

    God said, I need someone to pay fixed income retirement old people nothing for their bank interest and when they complain offer risky investments to make up the difference so they will lose their principle and then pay themselves a commission

    So God made a banker

    To test our faith in him.
    So now you know the rest of the story …….Good Day !

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