Sunday Open Thread – January 20th

Tomb of the Unknown ChristmasOur Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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96 Responses to Sunday Open Thread – January 20th

  1. Hey, it’s January 20.
    According to the 20th Amendment…
    “The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January”
    Technically, you’ll have no leaders until Monday, the 21st.
    You’ll not notice any difference, because you’ve had no leadership for the past four years. :evil:

    • canadacan says:

      Gotcha. Hard to miss what you haven’t had for a while

    • howie says:

      JFK and Obama. Kennedy would start his speech with “My fellow americans,” Obama?…”My fellow travelers.”

      • jordan2222 says:

        Do not be surprised to see him “slip up “and say “My fellow Muslims” or “Our people” at some point during the next four years.

    • Sharon says:

      He’s being immaculated today in a private ceremony. Then a redo for the public tomorrow.

      • howie says:

        Ugghhhh! I am turning the TV off for a week. I can’t bear to watch the leader of the Democrat “War on the Bill of Rights,” get re-annointed.

        • jordan2222 says:

          The TV went bad in my bedroom a few days so I am on a mission to find one that will not require me to pay extra each month for HD service. I am not up to date on technology but do they make flat screens that are not HD?

          • michellc says:

            I don’t know if you can buy them, but you can watch a flat screen tv that is HD without HD. The TV in my bedroom is not hooked to HD and the picture is fine.
            You can also buy a HD antenna to watch local tv that is aired in HD in HD.

          • stellap says:

            Non-HD tv’s are probably available at your local Salvation Army or other resale shops. I hear they are quite plentiful. My old Sony (in my bedroom) is still going strong and you can buy a digital converter fairly cheap that will give you over the air channels with a good antenna, or, as Michelle said, you can get over the air channels on a flat screen with a good antenna.

      • Oh, silly me. Thanks, Sharon! I’m out of touch again. ;-)
        So, this is the -real- one on the Koran. Tomorrow is the fake one on the Bible.
        Figures. And, I guess the same for the VP.
        Today’s on the Sears Catalog. Tomorrow’s kabuki is on the Bible. :evil:

  2. howie says:

    Denaturalization. A lot has been said about Obama not being natural born. I was thinking about all us natural born citizens. As the communists obliterate the bill of rights I was wondering if it could be said that we are slowly but surely being denaturalized. In other words being deprived the protection of the Bill of rights that every citizen enjoys. We could end up not being citizens at all. At least of the USA. ….Trop v. US 78 S. Ct. 590

  3. Sharon says:

    Washington didn’t use his right to free speech to defeat the British… he shot them.

    • howie says:

      This is a copy of the firearms laws of the small island of Barbados. Barbados is where I was robbed at gunpoint. Only the criminals have firearms. The citizens keep their guns in a gun and shooting club and can not take them off the grounds. It has been a longstanding international socialist goal. This little small island has roaming criminals with guns while the law abiding are disarmed. There are a few licensed bodyguards you can hire. Even they have to check the guns in and out of the approved storage depot. This is simply tyranny.

    • michellc says:

      So if someone breaks in on you, I’m sure you can tell them to give you about 20 minutes while your run get your gun.

      I’m so tired of stupid people.

      • Sharon says:

        If they gave you time to go get your gun, then I suppose you could be charged with pre-meditated murder/assault.

        I don’t think the stupid people intend that you should be able to defend yourself at all. If you’re not part of a Recognized Victim Group, you deserve to be robbed, shot, beaten, etc. So what would you be needing with a gun anyway? Not sarcasm.

        • howie says:

          They could call it “The Bates Gun Hotel.” Your guns check in but they don’t check out.

        • michellc says:

          Of course they don’t want us defending ourselves. I know their plan, it’s to ban guns, oh they’ll call it a common sense assault weapons ban, the sheep will say I don’t have an assault weapon, so what’s the big deal, then they’ll find out you mean that old thing is an assault weapon? Then they’ll create criminals who they have to come take away their guns, then the remaining sheep will be told through the state ran media that they fired on them and they had no choice but to kill your neighbor. Then they’ll have their paradise and the sheep will realize when it’s too late, paradise wasn’t quite what they were sold.
          They’ll realize we weren’t such conspiracy theorist whackos after all, but it will be too late, we’ll be in a better place and they’ll be living their own personal hell on earth that they pined for.

  4. WeeWeed says:

    Clarice with an eye-opener this a.m., “The Democracy Initiative: A Coup In Plain Sight.”

    • Sharon says:

      I’ve been studying Woodrow Wilson’s 1912 campaign speeches. In one of them he goes into great detail about the nonsense of the Constitution doing so much to protect the individual and individual rights. He considered the Constitution an impossible barrier in the government’s way that prevented the government from imposing on the individual and planned to change all that.

      He spelled out in detail his intention to move things along so that individuals’ liberties and rights as defined in the Constitution would be consciously set aside, in order to focus on providing government (via an updated Constitution) the rights and opportunities to organize and control groups and businesses; i.e., make the “government-group/business relationship” the organizing center of American identity.

      President Wilson believed the emphasis on the individual was outdated and self-indulgent in the extreme. He publicly, specifically and repeatedly mocked the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and detested those who saw them as fixed foundations for the nation..

      • You’re Hillsdale College material, Sharon. ;-)

        • Sharon says:

          I’m tickled to know that my arms’ length exposure to Hillsdale shows! As a result of signing up for their Constitution 101 series last spring, I bought their Constitution Reader–very possibly the best $30 I ever spent on a book. I’ve always loved history, but was woefully under-instructed about much of this, so am in the process of pushing for understanding and connecting the dots so I can make use of it.

          Our 43 year old son has asked for an appointment for a few hours next Saturday to give him whatever I can cram into a few hours on this kind of background.. He’s fighting the fight where he is already, but told me the other day that he appreciates the way I challenge and stretch his thinking, and wants more time to pursue deliberate conversation about it. Is that the best gift a parent can get or what?? :)

          • ctdar says:

            You raised your children well :)
            I had that good feeling the other night at dinner table when we were all joking and laughing over silly stories that our children recalled (yes some things I did not know and thankful I didn’t when they happened); they had a fun childhood and survived it in one piece. :)

          • Josh says:

            The world needs more parents like you, Sharon.

            Every time I see a parent do the right thing, no matter how small, I commend them. I was in a store this past weekend. A parent was allowing their small child to stand up in a shopping cart however this parent had their hand on the child, protecting them from falling the entire time. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen parents turn their backs on their babies. I thanked this woman for being a good Mom. She appreciated my words (even though she may have thought me a nut :-)

            • Josh says:

              Oh and another thing I saw this weekend…

              A female throws a dirty diaper from her parked van then she herself squatted and peed – all in front of the van’s occupants children included.

    • howie says:

      Absolutely. I caught on to this a while back. What opened my eyes were some comments made by Anita Dunn. In explaining the new vision and fundamental change purveyed by the Obammunists. She said to understand it you have to blend Mao and Mother Teresa. Compassionate Communism? Yes there has been a coup. A legal one but a coup. Now the old ways are considered counter revolutionary. Justice Roberts affirmed the coup with his Obamacare ruling. It is the roadmap for the Brave New America. I doubt the GOP is up to the task of fending it off. So. Here we are. Who knows what next? This next four years is gonna be consolidation. If the GOP goes down the tubes in 2014 then all bets are off after that. I am going to try and start studying international socialist laws and such. It will probably be what ends up controlling the USA. Much different than what we have had in the past. Justice Ginsberg has even come right out and said she favors the South African Constitution. Most Democrats favor the UN over the USA laws. Almost all the journalists consider themselves to be more citizens of the world than citizens of the United States.

    • howie says:

      I think the GOP is doing a much better job of that than Obama.

    • howie says:

      How bout their latest genius plan? They will raise the debt limit on Obamas credit cards for three months. But if the Senate does not offer a budget in three months then the Congress won’t get paid. Houston! we have a problem! Mayday, Mayday, Mayday.

    • howie says:

      Another Kook. Who is right on the money. As things develop the so called kooks turn out to be more and more. Right on the money. Amazing. No wonder Obama wants to disarm the USA. So there won’t be a rifle behind every blade of grass, as Yamamoto feared. They will be locked up down at the local Obama Gun Storage Center.

    • ctdar says:

      Call your Congressman & Senators TODAY

    • czarowniczy says:

      In truth the southern border’s a stone pain to try and secure. In the early 70s we took older Hawk radar units down to the southwest to try and catch smugglers flying in below the mountains on the border. That was cut short. The Russian in Cuba used their intel system there to track US radar usage so that they could help guide drug planes flying from Cuba (where they refueled and/or picked up drugs) through US radar gaps and to drop points. There are low-level gaps in the Gulf where oil rigs block radar – bad guys know about that. There were AWACS aircraft flying in north Texas/Southern Oklahoma that had look-down radar capability which could find low-flying planes but that, as well as some other systems, seems to have been deactivated. Anyone remember Barry Seals? Old Barry somehow managed to find a C-123A aircraft for sale and flew lots of bad drugs from Central America to places such as Mena, Arkansas (cough, cough) until his arrest under questionable circumstances and his even more unusual death (wink, wink). One wonders, outside of the seeming lack of interest by some members of the US government in preventing the illegal drugs from flooding into the US, if the removal of so many surveillance systems might be part and parcel of the POtuS’s program to increase immigration, legal and illegal, from Mexico?

  5. Paige Cohen says:

    They are starting a blackout campaign on facebook – mourning Obama’s immaculation. People are changing their profile pictures to a solid black box for the day.

    • canadacan says:

      What if Dennis Miller said that about Mario Cuomo. Wouldn’t that be considered a terroristic threat

      • cajunkelly says:

        Meanwhile a little girl gets suspended from school and charged with a terroristic threat for threating to shoot a pink soap bubble gun at a classmate.
        Two more school kids have been suspended for pointing their index finger while having their thumb raised upright.

  6. cajunkelly says:

    I’m liking this woman more and more. She’s pulling no punches re the newspaper published map, and dayum she’s takin it to obama in spades!

    • czarowniczy says:

      The death of the Constitution was when the US ceased to be a largely rural nation and became an urban one. The centralization of population into masses in huge strip-cities took their self-reliance and independence away, making them dependent upon various levels of government to provide that which they’d previously largely self-supplied in a rural setting. Granted an urban setting provided them with luxuries and the centralization of services and production gave them the cash and free time to enjoy those luxuries, but at a price – the gradual erosion of their freedoms. In a rural setting, as I’m in, you are relatively free to do what you want as long as you do not impinge upon your distant neighbors’ rights – there’s a lot of personal space here. Go into the city and the number of bodies per square miles skyrockets, people’s very being rubs up against others and causes social friction. In undergrad school in the 60s the profs were touting how the US would have the overwhelming majority of its population in major strip cities by the year 2000 and how, as in Europe and Asia in the past, they would require, if not demand, more and more social control and intervention from government as people crammed into ever smaller areas create their own social problems. We saw the same thing in operational planning for war against the USSR in Europe, massive population centers that would slow and block the maneuvering of both sides, creating huge crowds of refugees that would not have the wherewithal to deal with themselves sans the infrastructure they relied on. In some cases their control and care exceeded the resources needed to fight the battles. I know I harp on Katrina but it was the epiphany for me, the abstract made whole. People lost their infrastructure support, they became no better than refugees from 17th century European battle. Many sat like stunned gerbils until government sauntered in and started pushing them around, telling them where to go and what to do, and finally moving them to some surprise location where government once again gave them what they needed to survive. Yes, a lot of the city did evacuate using their own resources BUT had Katrina been a bit faster and a fraction of a degree wrest, they’d most likely have been caught too and in the same predicament. I do believe that the urbanization of the country has sounded the death knell of the Constitution as it was, it will become increasingly irrelevant, at best a mascot for top-down social control and an object of historical study. And that doesn’t even begin to address the issue of its being written in English in an increasingly Spanish country.

      • howie says:

        The death of a million regulations. An electorate that thinks the legislature should “get things done.” Individuals and small businesses unable to comply with the regulations driven out of the market. Statute upon statute. Each building on the last mistake.

      • michellc says:

        There was a woman running for city council awhile back in our second largest city. One of the things she was running on was cutting code enforcement in half to save money. She lost by huge numbers because people were scared to death contractors were going to come in and kill them by not installing furnaces and hot water heaters correctly if there were fewer inspectors and who was going to make their neighbor mow their yard. The outcry was hilarious, you would have thought she was inviting murderers into their homes.
        My husband and I joked about how adventerous we were to be living out in the sticks with no code enforcement officers measuring our neighbors yard and having non-government certified code furnaces and hot water heaters installed. I know those contractors just made a mistake and really meant to gas us out. It’s a wonder we have survived this long.

        • czarowniczy says:

          Living out in the sticks has multiple advantages, and most of us out here are more ‘green’ than the posers in the city could ever hope to be. To them it’s a cult issue, to us it’s just part of life. That said, there are a few committees in the UN and some maneuvering in the US Congress to restrict the property rights of those of us who live inr rural areas. Some UN committees are decrying the ability of private persons to own ‘more property/land then they can effectively use’. Estates, non-corporate farms, retirement properties – they are all in the international progressive movement’s sights. Here at home the Congress and their agency turds – opps, ‘scuse me – ‘toads’ are moving to severely restrict ALL property owners’ water rights. Each Congress agencies such as the USDA and EPA try to get Congress to authorize government control over all lakes, pond, streams, discharge system – you name it – on private property. Under one proposal even the Massachusetts-approved (more stringent than Mississippi) anaerobic septic system I have, which sprinkles composted waste water over a three acre grass and tree field, would have to be upgraded as the water might eventually find its way into my 20+ acres lake. Can’t wait until they tell me I have to diaper the wildlife that relieves itself within EPA control range of the lake – don’t even start me on the fish and ducks. Control, control, control…

    • czarowniczy says:

      The miniscule drop of Democrat that remains somewhere in the southern half of my body,where the sun don’t shine, combined with my love of the pun, say ‘taking it to Obama in what’? Back to that list of words in the English language the apologist revisionists want banned…

      • cajunkelly says:

        I agree totally with you re Katrina. I was shocked and mortified to see this in my home state. Ashamed even. That toilet bowl, and I mean that literally in the geographic sense, and realistically regarding the crap that lives there, is NOT the Louisiana I know and reside in.
        Regarding the (100% unintended) pun, I took my DILLIGAF shot a long time ago, inoculating my self against the PC jackals. I refuse to have my 1st Amendment right negated simply for using a card game term in reference to a jackass who happens to be half non-caucasian. The un-PCness didn’t even occur to me as I typed it.
        I’m quite sure a PC jackal would not approve, and that brings me a great measure of amusement as it would prove, once again, just how *stupid* they are. :)

        • czarowniczy says:

          No offense intended, I was just trying to be a shade humorous. You should have seen the list of words we weren’t allowed to use in Federal Civil Service. That, and we had to run everything we wrote that went to other agencies or civilians through a program that made sure the writing was not above an eighth grade level. I found a number of imaginative ways to twist my writing and none of the drones ever caught it. However, one of our Usual Suspect over-$80k-a-year supervisors wrote a directive that somehow slipped past the internal reviewers – many of whom were unfamiliar with the English language themselves – and it caused quite a dust-up in DC when some literate types caught what had gone out agency-wide. Problem was solved in the usual Federal manner, we hired an English major with a MA to review anything that went outside of the building.

          • cajunkelly says:

            No offense taken Czar. :) I just took the opportunity to vent my position on the PC jackasses. Lower than an egg suckin dog, they are.

    • cajunkelly says:

      The best response to that article:
      Please tell me what part of the cartridge do we laser imprint Peter Henderson and Daniel Trotta? The actual projectile (bullet) that will be so deformed that we can not read the serial? The brass that is very reusable and not left behind? Maybe the powder or the primer? Please be real journalists and research what you talk about.

    • auscitizenmom says:

      I got an email from a cousin with this attached quite a while back and I checked Snope and there are questions about whether this is real. Maybe somebody could check on it, just to be sure.

      • Sharon says:

        I’ve read and heard that from several sources. I assume there’s truth to it. If you read the general guidelines that Ezekiel Emmanuel and his buddies at the CSM are working, and link that with the high and mighty obama’s declaration about “best practices reducing costs” it’s pretty much a given that anyone over 70 is not going to receive normal remedial care for a whole list of things.

        Some specific presentation of the same thing might not be accurate, but overall–yeah, that’s where we’re headed. I have no doubt about that. None.

  7. ctdar says:

    Remember that article about the 3D printer I posted about the other day? :lol:

  8. WeeWeed says:

    From the Puff-Ho’s, Ted Cruz spreading hate and discontent. Bwaahaaahaaaa!! :lol:

  9. cajunkelly says:

    An *awesome* letter to teh won. Nope, this isn’t the one circulating a few weeks ago. This is different.

  10. howie says:

    Only 1461 days to go til we are rid of this pest. let the countdown to VO Day begin. Actually only 1460 and 1/2. VO Day Jan. 20, 2016.

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