Stuck On Stupid Ridiculous – The New New York Gun/Ownership Restrictions…..

Having just spent a little time looking over the new Andrew Cuomo approved New York legislative gun controls, one can only come to the conclusion that New York Progressives are stuck on stupid. Seriously.

They rushed through a non-debated, middle of the night, vote before you can read it – bill, that is fraught with serious nonsense the likes of which could only stem from a closed-door progressive, drooling, throw everything on the paper session of supernova gun fearing stupid.

If this bill were not so serious it would be comical. It is so ridiculous, so far past ridiculous, the light from where ridiculous lives would not be able to reach this bill for a year, or more. Even the New York Times thinks it’s a little, well, wrong-minded:

The resulting bill is hard to judge on the merits. It’s a snarl of good ideas, strange ideas and ideas that seem quite bad. While some items should figure into federal gun control legislation, Washington should not take New York as an example of how to go about this difficult business.

The bill broadens the assault weapons ban to include any semi-automatic with a detachable magazine and one military-style feature, like a flash suppressor or a pistol grip. That would cover the type of rifle used by the mass murderer in Newtown, Conn., last month.

It requires tighter registration and reporting of arms sales; background checks for all sales, including private ones; and re-certification requirements for gun owners. (link)

How about all doctors and medical professionals are now required to inform Law Enforcement if their patient “might present a danger to themselves or others”? Again, The Times:

New York’s new gun control bill further includes a peculiar provision requiring mental-health professionals to report patients who they believe constitute a threat to themselves or to others. It outlines how law enforcement could go about revoking those patients’ gun permits and/or confiscating their firearms.

That provision screams unintended consequences. Dr. Paul S. Appelbaum, the director of the Division of Law, Ethics, and Psychiatry at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, told The Times that such a requirement “represents a major change in the presumption of confidentiality that has been inherent in mental health treatment.”

Gee, ya think? New York State Senator John J. Bonacic, who opposed the legislation, called it “nothing more than window dressing designed to make people feel secure until the next tragedy strikes – all while criminalizing the actions of otherwise law-abiding citizens.”

Also, it appears law-abiding citizens would become criminals – eligible to be sent to jail, simply by failing to tell the government they own guns they lawfully purchased. All guns, long guns, handguns, all firearms, must now be registered.

“Equally problematic is the provision in the legislation prohibiting more than seven rounds in a ten round magazine – something irrelevant to a criminal.” Bonacic also stated.

“Under the legislation, magazines people now own, which are capable of holding ten rounds (bullets) continue to be legal, but a person may only load seven rounds in them. It strains credibility to believe a criminal bent on a massacre is going to load only seven bullets in a ten round magazine. Law abiding citizens, on the other hand, who erroneously load too many bullets in a magazine, would be criminals under the legislation.”

The bill was totally debated and constructed in closed-door meetings, and New Yorker’s will now see: enforced limits on magazine capacity, mandatory license renewal for gun owners every five years, stiffer penalties for bringing guns on school property and expansion of “Gun Free Zones”, as well as further restrictions on guns that have been termed “assault weapons”.

Under the old state law, assault weapons were defined as having two military rifle features. The new law reduces that to one feature including the popular pistol grip, or flash suppressor.

Private sales of newly defined assault weapons to someone other than an immediate family member are conditional upon a background check through a certified dealer, and internet sales of newly defined assault weapons are banned. Additionally failing to safely store a weapon is subject to a misdemeanor charge.

Ammunition magazines are restricted to seven bullets, from the previous 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines have a year to sell them out-of-state.

An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine will face a misdemeanor charge.

All ammunition purchases in the State of New York are now subject to background checks and all rifles, or long guns, must now be registered with the State.

Yes, they will do background checks on the simple purchase of a box of .22 ammo for squirrel hunting or target practice, each and every time a purchase is made. Every ammunition purchase, EVERY AMMUNITION PURCHASE, must be tracked and an electronic record of every transaction stored on a database.

In addition, if a firearm you own (registered to you) is stolen you have 24 hours to report it or you will be criminally prosecuted.

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49 Responses to Stuck On Stupid Ridiculous – The New New York Gun/Ownership Restrictions…..

  1. waltherppk says:

    There are only two perspectives on the basic right of an individual to keep and bear arms,
    [1] There is the honorable oath keepers’ constitutional perspective
    [2] There is the Nazi perspective
    The criminals who govern New York chose #2 , but it is a safe bet THE PEOPLE choose #1
    It will be interesting to see how the reckoning turns out in the conflict between the Nazis
    and THE PEOPLE

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    • waltherppk says:

      BTW the souls of 3,000 murdered dead of 9-11-2001 cry out from the ground asking if [1] Can the pilots and flight crews of commercial airliners can put their hands on a gun in an emergency such as to defeat air piracy and hijacking, or [2} Are the stupid gun control Nazis who are culpably negligent in those 3,000 deaths of people made defenseless victims by stupid gun control laws, still stuck on stupid like the stupid Nazis they are ?

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  2. jello333 says:

    Several problems with this, but the one that most upsets me is where mental-health providers have to report their patients. Wow. I thought almost everyone, on all sides of the gun-control debate, agreed that one good thing would be to help more people get the mental health treatment they need… right? Well, seems to me this stupid provision of the law is gonna do just the opposite. It will DISCOURAGE potentially sick people from even TRYING to get help. Mmm mmm mmm…

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    • JaegeRanger says:

      Jello
      At the present some 30% of Americans qualify for mentally disabled category. The new psychiatrists’ manual now covers just about every human emotion as mental illness.

      Due to American kids consuming 95% of the world’s Ritalin, the next generation is out of luck. Ever taken a Xanax due to a parent dying or a Percoset due to automobile accident, or yelled to your boss? A very slippery slope.

      I once had my Ranger t-shirt under my jacket when I went to my physical. The doc asked me why I felt telling the world that I was “angry” (he only saw the letters ‘anger’).I sure hope he did not write that episode down to his notes. I ordered all my medical records, and it was an eye-opener. The docs write down everything from how you dress to how you talk, not to mention if you utter something stupid to your own doctor. A docs visit ought to be like handled like a dialogue with a cop.

      The mental illness issue the panicked gun-owner are so willing to participate in will be our destruction. Freaking idiot NRA – again. (See, I was angry.)

      I’m all for seriously mentally ill people, who ought to be locked up, not having access to firearms. But, I sincerely think that the Second Amendment does not limit the ability of Americans to own and bear arms – even felons (violent felons ought to be locked up for life) ought to have the rightafter they’ve served their time.

      Yup, lets sell most Americans down the river. At least I still have my guns, until the next save-the-children law is invented.

      Today America will be over.

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  3. jordan2222 says:

    Not much I can add to the conversation but it’s time for a national discussion on licenses. If we are all created equal, then why the hell do I need a license for anything? I only want to be free. As soon as you sign any kind of license form, you acknowledge that you now have a privilege and many of your rights cease to exist.. From that point on, you play by their rules.

    If you know of anyone who has ever been arrested and/or charged with a DUI, then you probably know that the punishment phase begins as soon as the handcuffs go on. Even if you prove your innocence, you will never be reimbursed for the outrageous expenses you will incur.

    It’s alarming that so many folks know nothing about licenses and think they are a great idea.

    Isn’t New York great?

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  4. Raoul says:

    Background checks on ammo is clear infringement and I don’t believe can be accomplished effectively in a timely manner. Look how long the NICS checks are taking.

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  5. TFred says:

    The ONLY thing not horrible about this law is that they now protect the identity of gun owners. Yes folks, now NEW YORK protects the identity of gun owners, while Virginia does NOT protect the identity of their concealed handgun permit holders.

    How embarrassing is that?

    Virginia needs to fix this NOW!

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  6. BertDilbert says:

    I reckon that they threw out this insane set of laws so that when Obama throws out his executive orders they will seem tame by comparison. I see no other reason they came out with the seven rounds law. Next they will only allow you to have a revolver with a max 7 round cylinder which is probably where this is headed.

    this is like saying you can only fill the tank on your car 3/4 full. Do you feel safer?

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  7. gretchenone says:

    Ah New York, a progressive dystopia…..uh utopia.

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  8. triage says:

    I continue to be dumbfounded at these gun restrictions. The second amendment does not allow for any of these restrictions and they are all unconstitutional. Yet they are still put into law despite the fact that they are illegal and should not be enforcable. How does this happen. I still maintain that the second amendment is my concealed carry permit and nothing else is required. Who can place legislators under arrest for passing illegal laws? They should be cuffed and given the perp walk. All this they do without debate and behind closed doors.

    Just be careful how you answer the medical questionaire before your next Dr. appointment. Have you felt angry or depressed lately? Answer yes and watch your gun rights be revoked. It’s interesting how the Fort Hood shooter escape scutiny when he was writing disturbed thoughts for some time before he acted.

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  9. Sal Paradise says:

    When tax revenues drop because law abiding citizens will by their ammo out of state, you have only yourself to blame, Gov Cuomo

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  10. Wraith says:

    Forget the guns…I’d feel a lot safer if we banned politicians.

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  11. ctdar says:

    “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.”
    Adolf Hitler

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  13. maggiemoowho says:

    The New York Government seems to forget that they are home to Lady Liberty. They continue to disgrace her more and more everyday.

    “We will not forget that Liberty has here made her home;
    nor shall her chosen altar be neglected.”

    — President Grover Cleveland accepting the Statue of Liberty
    on behalf of the U.S., October 28th, 1886

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  14. howie says:

    The people in New York are a disgrace. They elect these imbeciles.

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  15. maggiemoowho says:

    Obama is paving the way for Cuomo to get elected in 2016. Cuomo will run for Pres and Bloomberg will be Vice.

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  16. ctdar says:

    Cuomo gun restrictions = Expect more of this NY

    http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1240933#bmb=1

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  17. brocahontas says:

    When entering the gun debate there are a few things to keep in mind. What are we trying to change? number of homicides. Why do we have guns? self defense

    How do we try to find the best balance of reducing homicides while allowing people to defend themselves? This is all this is about. The left tends to forget that people have the right to defend themselves from others and from the government.

    My personal feeling is that the left is only using the gun debate to attack people they don’t like, namely, “gun toting right wingers”. I don’t think they have much interest in protecting anyone because they are incapable of engaging in an honest debate of the issues.

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    • ctdar says:

      The end game is to disarm the masses opening the door for dictatorship.

      “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.”
      Adolf Hitler

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  18. czarowniczy says:

    Ah yes, I’m betting that the Russian mafia, what’s left of the Old mafia, the Dominican drug gangs, MS-13, drug dealers and every other criminal who infects the state and pays off politicians and police -whoops, did I say that? – will immediately turn in all of their illegal guns and open blintz or falafel stands in the City. This just might get Kathy Lee and Hoda to start drinking again. Legislate in haste, repent in leisure.

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  19. When your boy in the White House is finished disarming America, you’ll be adding “The March of Crimes” to my favorite charity “The March of Dimes.”

    Stand & Fight, America… otherwise, it’s a one-way ticket to this joint. :evil:

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  20. I’m very ashamed to be a New Yorker. :(

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  21. czarowniczy says:

    Interesting chart on how Congress stands on gun rights/gun control.

    http://projects.propublica.org/guns/

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  22. mung says:

    How long before gun manufactures come up with “alternatives” to the items that cause a gun to be banned? “it’s not a pistol grip, it’s a comfort grip”

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  23. lovemygirl says:

    Oregon sheriff: ‘Unconstitutional’ gun control laws won’t be enforced

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/16/us/oregon-sheriff-gun-laws/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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  24. boricuafudd says:

    One thing that I don’t think anyone has mentioned is that as more people are left unprotected, and unable to protect themselves, the cry for more law enforcement will go up.Getting us closer to a police state, as the only way to protect us from the criminal element who will be the only ones outside of law enforcement with guns.

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    • jello333 says:

      Yep. And surveillance… we need MORE surveillance. Cameras, and drones, and all that good stuff. Oh, and wiretaps too…. we’re gonna need MORE wiretaps to make sure we’re all safe. And undercover cops…. oh yeah, we’re gonna need WAY MORE narcs! And, and….

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    • Sharon says:

      I went looking for the quote/comments from Francis Schaeffer about the cycles of nations that go ’round–ending with a building toward chaos, which results in anarchy, which leaves the people “begging for tyranny” in order to have a restoration of order in the society. I didn’t find what I was looking for, but this is excellent as well and touches on the issue…. (HA! I’m sure Francis Schaeffer would be relieved that I find his observations “excellent”….:) )

      Schaeffer argued that Western culture’s rejection of God, truth, and God’s moral laws will lead to the death of man. … Schaeffer stated, “We are on the verge of the largest revolution the world has ever known—the control and shaping of men through the abuse of genetic knowledge, and chemical and psychological conditioning.”….

      Society can have no stability on this Eastern world-view or its present Western counterpart (referencing the humanist/leftist perspective). It just does not work. And so one finds a gravitation toward some form of authoritarian government, an individual tyrant or group of tyrants who takes the reins of power and rule. And the freedoms, the sorts of freedoms we have enjoyed in the West, are lost…. The inhumanities and the growing loss of freedoms in the West are the result of a world-view which has no place for “people.”

      http://www.ukapologetics.net/08/thedeathoftruth.htm

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  25. lovemygirl says:

    What they really need to pass is a cooling off period before writing any legislation after a tragedy. Hastily written laws are always poorly written and have unintended consequences.

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  26. khunley73 says:

    What this new law means for New York is that New York will be battling Chicago for the top spot on the most homicides in America for 2013…

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