SYRIA - Syrian forces have mixed chemical weapons and loaded them into bombs in preparation for possible use on President Bashar Assad’s own people, Fox News confirms.
A senior U.S. official told Fox News that bombs were loaded with components of sarin gas, a deadly nerve gas. Syrian forces have 60 days to use these bombs until the chemical mixture expires and has to be destroyed.
NBC News
, which first reported this latest escalation in the Syrian civil war, cited sources saying bombs filled with a sarin component have not yet been loaded onto planes, but the Syrian military is prepared to use these chemical weapons against civilians pending orders from Assad.
The United States has said chemical weapons use would be unacceptable and would trigger greater Western intervention in the conflict.
In Brussels earlier Wednesday, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reiterated concerns that “an increasingly desperate Assad regime might turn to chemical weapons” or lose control of them to militant groups.
She also said NATO’s decision on Tuesday to send Patriot missiles to Turkey’s southern border with Syria sends a message that Ankara is backed by its allies. The missiles are intended only for defensive purposes, she said.
Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu was quoted Wednesday in the Turkish newspaper Sabah as saying that Syria has about 700 missiles, some of them long-range.
Gunmen loyal to opposite sides in Syria’s civil war battled Wednesday in the streets of the Lebanese city of Tripoli. The fighting has killed six people and wounded nearly 60 since Monday, security officials said.
The bloodshed is a sign of just how vulnerable Lebanon is to getting sucked into the Syrian crisis. The countries share a porous border and a complex web of political and sectarian ties that is easily enflamed. (read more)
Teetering on a Failed State – Andrew McCarthy – December 4, 2012
http://www.securefreedomradio.org/2012/12/04/teetering-on-a-failed-state/
The SpeakEasy – Guy Green
Guest – Andrew McCarthy – November 28, 2012
http://thespeakeasywithguygreen.com/?forwarded-301
Direct mp3 link @ 23:00
http://www.3wiradio.com/mp3/SPKEZ%20ANDY%20McCARTHY%2011-28-1.mp3
The Roth Show – Every Tuesday Hour 1- IQ Rassooli
Tuesday – December 4 – HR 1 – IQ Rassooli
http://therothshow.com/show-archives/december-2012/
Direct mp3 link
http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour1Dec0412.mp3
Syrian priest tortured to death by Islamists…”
By Timothy Whiteman – December 2, 2012
http://www.examiner.com/article/syrian-orthodox-priest-tortured-to-death-by-islamists
Brave Former Muslim – March 20, 2012
Jeff Holder on Talk to Solomon – November 20, 2012
Operation: SYRIA
http://www.worldwideadvance.org/index.html
Geez, one wonders why the Syrians aren’t using the binary Sarin, their WMD program is advanced enough for them to ALLEGEDLY have it. The binary would last longer and is somewhat less corrosive, depending upon which formulation they use. Interesting how the press has discovered they are prepping the delivery systems, one would think that they’d be a bit more surreptitious in mixing such a controversial weapon. Something doesn’t smell right here and it’s not the Sarin – it has no smell when correctly mixed.
Details about Sarin in this link…
http://nilesema.com/sarin.htm
Yes and no. Sarin can be treated with thickeners that increase its viscosity and slow evaporation.If used during a calm period (dawn, sunset) non-persistent Sarin will settle to the lowest areas available (again with some effects due to temperature gradients in the target area) and is a better weapon in open areas than it is in built-up areas. Thickened, persistent Sarin is better in areas where higher temperatures would otherwise allow regular Sarin to evaporate quickly and persistent Sarin makes a great area-denial weapon. Sarin, like most of the rest of the nerve agents, is a cholinesterase Inhibitor that can be treated but long-term effects depend upon treatment and how quickly it’s administered; however, a good WMD technician would combine a Sarin attack with another agent like mustard or (if he’s really a pr*ck) one of the agents specifically designed to clog the filters in a protective mask. Even if the folks being attacked with it have full WMD protection the fatigue generated by having to stay in full protective gear for hours at a time takes a heavy toll on their abilities to fight effectively, making them easier targets for the attacking troops.
Thank you for the clarifications–my acquaintance with sarin is pretty much framed by the terrorist attack in the 1990′s on the train in Japan–so was just trying to pull up a general information source. Thank you for expanding on it……
No sweat, no recriminations, I’m just sharing knowledge that you, dear taxpayers, paid for me to learn. The lesser known part of the 1992 Aum Shinrikyo incident was that they succeeded in making a VX agent also. They never used it, at least one member got his prison sentence shortened by showing the authorities where it was buried, and no open-source information (at least that I’ve seen) on which VX formula was used has been released. They had a pretty good biological agent program going too – I’m betting that had they delayed their Sarin attack a while longer they’d have had a pretty sophisticated arsenal and the Japanese would have suffered a far greater level of damage. Trust me, the first through second generation chemical weapons are not so exotic that a good chem facility couldn’t make them. I’m surprised that the AQ-types don’t have them already – not only do the fundamentalists attract college types but so much of the old Russian chem weapon program was centered in what are now the ‘Stans and employed so many locals.
If the SARIN stuff is already formulated, wouldn’t an airstrike on a facility of such loaded bombs or rockets just make the stuff go everywhere?
Depends on what ordnance you use and how it’s delivered. The blast and heat from the blast would spread it but also incinerate some and carry some up and away in the updraft from the explosion. Generally the depot is located in a secure area away from civilian areas to secure the product from theft or tampering. Bombing the depot would pose a minimal risk compared to allowing the bad guys to have mixed product on-hand. Above ground depot would be incinerated while those depots located underground would be self-contained post blast.. I also doubt they’ll mix a lot at a time and attacking the components before they are mixed poses a lesser threat. You have to remember that NATO has had plans in place on attacking chemical sites since the Cold War, we’re not looking at one or two planes here, we’re looking at flights turning depots into huge smoking clouds of ash. NATO also has tactics and ordnance in place to maximize destruction with minimal collateral damage. The explosives used in conventional warheads have gone along way in the last few decades, some of the enhanced explosives put out a flame front that is easily capable of frying whatever it’s dropped on.
So proud of my oldest dtr when she served in the USAF. I am also thankful (ok this is mommy speaking now) that she is no longer serving. Her duties in Readiness, was having to know all this chemical junk. Blood borne stuff.. all that scary stuff. Her job was first responder in case of attack. She had to know ALL kinds of stuff. She is concerned for her fellow troops. Praying !!
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I don’t think the poster intended the wording the what it was phrased, but regardless. Sorry.
Even the thought of it is evil. There are mostly good people in every neighborhood, black, white, asian etc.
P.S. I’ve always been convinced that Iraq sent the WMDs to Syria. Oooops der it is.
Iraqi General Georges Sada (who was on Saddam’s staff) agrees with you.
http://www.amazon.com/Saddams-Secrets-General-Survived-Hussein/dp/B000GYI1QU
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As far as I’m concerned, the US should not take any part in this conflict because both sides are equally loathsome.
I so totally agree with that. Let it play out. Just defend “FREEDOM”. Shine the lens on the beacon and let it break through the darkness of oppressive society no matter where it tries to hide.
Just defend Freedom and all parties that subscribe to Freedom Principles.
Way I felt about Libya and Egypt…not our business…not our problem…and seems like nobody in the MSM wants to point out the real motives of this administration for getting involved…. liquified dead dinosaur bones….like Dems don’t get involved in foreign conflicts for oil or something….remember em all screaming “No war for oil!” before we invaded Iraq? This admin wanted more allies with oil and therefore helped topple difficult dictators to get that (at least in Libya) and yet nobody wants to say it or point it out…no it was for “freedom” and “democracy”…and that’s why they’re quiet on the rise in islamist power in those 2 countries….
I really don’t think that’s the reason. If it was, they could be developing our oil and gas resources right here in the USA, and they are fighting against that at every turn.
I don’t really think it’s about oil. It’s way more sinister than that. Like I told folks during the campaign, read Obama’s book(regardless if he wrote it or not, it clearly tells you the motives) and watch the documentary.
In a nutshell, Obama and the people in Obama’s camp and the people who molded Obama’s mind his entire life want to destroy the West and Israel.
The US doesn’t use the Libyan oil — sweet crude. It was mostly shipped to the EU — this was their oil war — the UK and France. In other news, the newly appointed Libyan Oil Minister spent eight years in prison under Gaddafi for belonging to the Muslim Brotherhood — used to be outlawed under his rule.
Really… people. What will Obama really do about a chemical weapons attack on Syrians by their government? Talk really, really mean? Call in Candy Crowley to set Assad straight? Have David Axelrod dig up some gal that Assad supposedly slept with 25-years ago in London? Have Harry Reid declare that he heard from somebody who used to work for the NHS say Assad didn’t pay any of his UK taxes? Come on. Obama is a girlyman. He’d do better turning Hitlery, Moochelle or Jarrett loose on Syria. Whiney, feckless, little toad.
If Syria uses chemical weapons, it kills two bird with one stone. It deprives them of the weapons. It also deprives Al Qaeada of the weapons. It also kills Al Qaeada.
Interesting – now the nightly news is touting the ‘dangers of spreading the deadly Sarin gas’ if it’s attacked by the US/NATO. Me wonders if the MSM’s taking a cue from the White House that it needs an excuse not to act if Assad does the naughty? The POtuS/Nobel Peace Prize recipient, who’s already having problems spinning his post-award Iraq/Afghanistan death toll, is risk averse to doing anything in Syria that might have unforeseen consequences. Then there’s that troubling Medvedev aside I keep coming back to…