Did you read media reports about a 2nd Petraeus woman named Jill Kelley? And the original woman, Paula Broadwell, being “concerned” about Kelley and sending harassing e-mails?
Did you read an AP report about Jill Kelley working for the State Dept. as a liason? Washington Post……. (Or) New York Times……. Odd how two very leftist publications would report the same nonsense.
[...] A senior U.S. military official identified the second woman as Jill Kelley, 37, who lives in Tampa, Fla., and serves as an unpaid social liaison to MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, where the military’s Central Command and Special Operations Command are located. (AP – ARTICLE)
FUBAR – It’s all BS.
Holly Petraeus, Scott Kelly and wife Jill Kelley
Dr. Scott and Jill Kelley are family friends of the Petreaus’s. Jill Kelley does not work for the State Dept. as a liaison, or any other position, and apparently Kelley did not get “threatening” e-mails *from* Paula Broadwell. Apparently Mrs. Kelley received concerning emails *about* the relationship.
In a statement Sunday evening, Kelley and her husband, Scott, said: “We and our family have been friends with Gen. Petraeus and his family for over five years.
We respect his and his family’s privacy and want the same for us and our three children.” (article)
I would not jump to any conclusions right now, and I darn sure would not trust the media one iota with the information they provide. Wait to hear from the horse’s mouth so to speak. Too much political spin from the White House and left leaning water carriers.
Stay above the story.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/11/new-details-in-petraeus-scandal-fbi-whistleblower-talked-first-to-house/
Kelley alerted the FBI about the emails that appeared to be an attempt to blackmail Petraeus, which started the investigation, said the sources.
In addition, the threatening emails might not have come from biographer Paula Broadwell, as widely reported.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/11/11/Broadwell-Benghazi-Attack-Was-To-Free-Militia-From-Secret-CIA-Prison
and
http://www.eutimes.net/2012/11/obama-topples-top-coup-leader-after-washington-gunbattle/
attempted military coup with coverup?
and
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324073504578113460852395852.html?mod=WSJAsia_hpp_LEFTTopStories
Investigation started in MAY????
I see a painting in Obama’s future! he will be mounted on a charging stallion, cape, no hat with a sword in his hand kinda like that one of Kim Il Jong.
The base will say this spot is where Dear Leader Obama fought hand to hand with evil capitalist bankers to prevent a coup.
be on the White House lawn by Jan 21
Ummmmm – did Netflix report a copy of “The Manchurian Candidate’ overdue from its shipment to a Moscow PO Box? I’m thinking the GRU is trying to pick up spare change by writing for SNL.
Scott Kelly & his wife Jill
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2958362/replies?c=34
Sorry about this comment but what is Jill Kelly wearing in the bottom photograph? Is that a pseudo negligee?
Sorry to be a fashion critic tonight but Dr. Scott looks like he shops at Nerds-R-Us with his sportcoat, polo shirt and jeans. Jill must shop at Sluts-R-Us.
She is definitely a true believer in the “if you got them, flaunt them” fashion philosophy.
Are they live or are they Mammorex?
She don’t “got them”, they would be at her knees without support.
On closer examination, it appears that she is wearing some type of support under her negligée.
Come on, guys. Let’s not be judgemental about a person’s mode of dress. I have known many military wifes that are faithful and loyal to their husbands, even during times of long deployments, that dress like hookers. If we start making judgements because of the way someone looks [in a damn picture, no less, not knowing why] what does that say about us?
My mother always told me that she felt it her responsibility to keep her appearance up, dress wise and weight wise, so that my dad and us kids would be proud of the way she looked. Too many people get way to comfortable in their marriages and forget what made them attractive in the first place.
Good point.
I’ll still amuse myself by imagining the the animosity between Paula Broadwell and Jill Kelly degenerating into a Catfight with Kelly starting the melée in that negligée and Broadwell in the dress she gave her recent speech in.
You are probably right about being judgmental; it’s not nice of us. Look at the other people in the photo. They are all dressed very differently. That’s why her attire stands out.
I understand your caution about “being judgmental” from many perspectives. However, I have also lived through 50 years of adulthood as a Christian church lady being screamed at by first this section of the country and then that section of the country that Christians were too judgmental…..and that cacophony finally redefined the word “judgmental” or the phrase “to judge” to mean: No one is allowed, EVER, to draw any conclusion or formulate any opinion about any person or situation based on behaviors, language, reputation, dress, bad body odors, habits of lying, patterns of business behavior, spending habits, family relationships (kind or abusive), alcohol use, drug use, driving habits, ….
….and I keep noticing how that has worked out. Today there is no wrong. There is no shame. There is no capacity to correct disasters, because in the process we might have to shine the light on those who fed them. There is no capacity to teach truth, because we might make liars feel uncomfortable.
We may have a tendency to bash and mock someone’s excess or foolishness at a time and in a way that is unnecessary and inherently nasty…when we catch ourselves doing that….fine. So stop it and step back.
But I will not be made to feel again, ever, in my life that it is not my right to make judgments–evaluate, consider, conclude, understand, have wisdom about.….all of these things are what “making judgments” are about.
I know that retire is not attempting to lecture us in a personal rebuke–my rant has to do with the generalizing of legitimate caution into “you’d better not be judgmental!”
Our country wouldn’t be in the damn serious mess it is if a couple of decades’ worth of us normal, churchy, moral, non-cursing, non-God-despising fools hadn’t bought into the screaming that started in the 60′s that “You’re just being judgemental.”
No more.
PS: retire–how do you know that those women who dress like hookers have been faithful. Rhetorical question, thus no question mark.
Probably one of those magical girdles that pushes her belly up under her breasts. Maybe it’s called the Belly brassiere LOL
just really poor taste. doesn’t get out much probably.
I must be shallow and off-topic too, because that’s exactly what I thought. That “dress” is ridiculous and it’s unflattering to boot.
Yeah but those earrings must be her favs as they can go from day to night
They must be a standard accessory for all Barbie Slut-Suits as she has the same ones on in the first pic, too.
Ya I know, must be her only pair just saw them in another photo of her
Maybe she thought it was a ‘pajama party’. /s
She also has a very “bold” expression on her face.
Maybe a mid-life crisis…insecure? In any event, she’s very skanky looking.
What’s with her neck?? Izzer head about to fall off???
That’s her good side
Honestly. The pose in both photos of her is identical. She’s cocking her head that way for a reason — someone told her she looks fetching like that. Her “outfits” and posing scream LOOK AT ME. Ugh. I’m absolutely sick to death of all the phony baloney lips, boobs, smiles and poses in pictures these days. It is REPULSIVE. And that other female, the Broadwell person, she appears to be a piece of work as well. She dresses more appropriately than the Kelley female, but the expression on her face in every picture I’ve seen the past few days tells me she has an EXTREME superiority complex. I also see more than a little bit of crazy behind her eyes. Both these females make me feel like throwing something.
Pardon the expression, but they are known as “tit-curtains”.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=fashion
(bottom of page)
She’s no Paula Broadwell, and might be dressed for a swing party, but if it turns out Patreaus was a ladies man by nature, there’s definately enough there to catch his attention. Just sayin’…
LOLOL!!! LMAO!!!
We women learn to recognize the pose Jill Kelly has affected in that pic…and her “outfit” speaks volumes.
Dot connections?
CNN reported the “Whitehouse” did not know until 5PM election night.
CNN then reported this story and House majority leader knew of Petraeus matter in October
http://us.cnn.com/2012/11/11/us/petraeus-cia-resignation/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Diane Feinstein, trying to get to the bottom of it, says (on CNN no less) “who did what and when – and what was missing?” and she said in an interview why were we not told ahead of time (When a certain R was told in October)
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/09/senate-intelligence-chairman-calls-petraeus-resignation-tragic/
Anyone but Obama is taking the sword.
Dianne has no love for Obama and for the leaks over coming from his NSC. She takes that very personally.
What the heck is an “unpaid social liaison?”
Sounds a bit suggestive… party girl?
Oh, is that the PC term for it now?
Well, if she was PAID, I believe that’s a different term.
That would be a Pro
Read this article from the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324073504578113460852395852.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Among other things, it states that in September, during the investigation, officials believed the Petraeus affair was a national security issue. Yet, the president was not informed until AFTER the election? Quote, “Mr. Obama learned of the affair Thursday morning [Nov. 8] and met that day with Mr. Petraeus, who offered his resignation. Mr. Obama didn’t immediately accept it and took a day to consider it.”
If true, then it proves President Obama is not in charge. In effect, he is not our president. He is merely a figurehead. Empty chair, indeed.
Horseshit, Obama has known since Petraeus became Director 9/2011 (probably knew even before due to the vetting process) and timed the document dump accordingly.
Agreed; yet troubling that the WSJ just spouts the administration propaganda. This is why the truth is so severely hampered. Even so-called conservative media reports what they are fed, almost without question.
gretchenone, you’re actually surprised at the “so-called” conservative media parroting what they are being spoon fed by the administration? And what makes you think the WSJ is conservative?
After spending 10 years in two regional WSJ offices (when it was owned by Dow Jones) I can tell you the reporters who report on this kind of story at the WSJ are NOT conservatives. The only conservatives were the financial reporters. The rest of them were flaming liberals who graduated from schools like The University of Missouri School of Journalism. There is not ONE journalism school in the U.S. that leans right and they haven’t leaned right since the days of Walter Cronkite.
The [so-called] mainstream press, including the WSJ, have been wholly owned by the left wing mindset for decades. That is why alterternative media (blogs, et al) are so important to really get the truth out to the general public. At least the print form of Newsweek, with its photos of a haloed Barack Obama, will cause us no distress in two months. It is folding.
You are correct. Journalism, as classically understood, has been dead for decades. I will adjust. Thank you for the correction!
Look at the 2 to the right (one looks like a twin or sister to nightgown)…who are they gossiping & giggling about? Hmmmm the twin appears to be looking right at Mrs Petraeus.
Ctdar i just read somewhere that she has a twin but i cant remember where..my battery died as i was reading grrr!
Hate that!
FUBAR – It’s all BS
Exactly!
This NY Times article says Paula Broadwell was questioned for the first time the week of October 21 and given her speech at Denver University was on October 26, she must have been questioned later that day…Friday or Saturday.
Officials Say F.B.I. Knew of Petraeus Affair in the Summer
By SCOTT SHANE and CHARLIE SAVAGE
Published: November 11, 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/12/us/us-officials-say-petraeuss-affair-known-in-summer.html?pagewanted=2
[snip]
The involvement of the F.B.I., according to government officials, began when Ms. Kelley, alarmed by about half a dozen anonymous e-mails accusing her of inappropriate flirtatious behavior with Mr. Petraeus, complained to an F.B.I. agent who is also a personal friend. That agent, who has not been identified, helped get a preliminary inquiry started. Agents working with federal prosecutors in a local United States attorney’s office began trying to figure out whether the e-mails constituted criminal cyber-stalking.
Because the sender’s account had been registered anonymously, investigators had to use forensic techniques — including a check of what other e-mail accounts had been accessed from the same computer address — to identify who was writing the e-mails.
[snip]
F.B.I. agents interviewed Ms. Broadwell for the first time the week of Oct. 21, and she acknowledged the affair, a government official briefed on the matter said. She also voluntarily gave the agency her computer. In a search, the agents discovered several classified documents, which raised the additional question of whether Mr. Petraeus had given them to her. She said that he had not. Agents interviewed Mr. Petraeus the following week. He also admitted to the affair but said he had not given any classified documents to her. The agents then interviewed Ms. Broadwell again on Friday, Nov. 2, the official said.
Based on that record, law enforcement officials decided there was no evidence that Mr. Petraeus had committed any crime and tentatively ruled out charges coming out of the investigation, the official said. Because the facts had now been settled, the agency notified James R. Clapper, the director of national intelligence, about 5 p.m. on the following Tuesday — Election Day.
[snip]
Given the level of BS the whitehouse lawn must be the greenest on earth.
Still another distraction to take the heat off Dear Leader. Yeah, Gen. Petraeus wasn’t forced to have an affair but this business of friend Kelley bullying Ms. Broadwell is very suspicious. Several scenarios: 1. Mrs. Petraeus sensed something was up and confided in Kelley who she thought the other woman might be; on her own, Kelley contacted Broadwell. 2. General Petraeus confessed all to the missus who told Kelley to scare Broadwell in an effort to make sure she stayed away from the General. 3. Kelley herself was having or had had an affair with the General herself, and this is payback to The Other Woman #2. If Broadwell was blackmailing General Petraeus, that is just ugly. What is it about “biographers”? This so smacks of the same meme as John Edwards living the double life with his “videographer”, Rielle Hunter.
Even brilliant men in high positions seem to lose common sense when it comes to making bad decisions involving sex. I’m convinced the Obama Machine (headed by Valerie Jarrett) has BrownShirts on the ground in all departments of government, at all levels to sniff out any whiff of ammunition that could be used against a colleague or opponent. There is simply no honor anywhere in this administration.
More like Obama has a cadre of Brown Bras to entice men in critical positions to commit an indiscretion that can be used for black mail. Petreaus couldn’t take it after Ben Ghazi so he outedhimself?
I feel for Mrs Petreaus.
You might be on to something.
For one thing; it seems that Broadwell broke off the relationship after she returned stateside. And then, to write her book, she chose Vernon Loeb, a left winger if there ever was one, whose articles were often quoted on anti-war websites during the Bush administration, using them as a reference why we should not be involved in either Iraq or Afghanistan. Anti-war sites don’t use hawks as backup for their agenda.
If Broadwell was so hot and bothered around Petreaus, was it all for show? Why did she dump him immediately after returning stateside? Had she gained the dirt she wanted and had no further use for him? Women are not usually the ones to break off extramarital affairs.
Vernon Loeb is the key here. Someone needs to dig into his actions. And his politics.
Heres more on Loeb, all the cockroaches coming out claiming surprise.
http://m.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/petraeus-ghostwriter-clueless-to-affair/2012/11/12/c1271634-2ce4-11e2-89d4-040c9330702a_story.html
I don’t buy that Holly Petraeus didn’t know. Hell, they attended a wedding with Broadwell and her husband arm in arm. What woman can’t see her hubby looking with lust or longing at another woman and more, what woman can’t see another woman looking at her husband that way?
The only thing I can’t figure out is what the hell Broadwell saw in Petraeus . Makes me think she’s a counterspy or it’s occurred to me that she and he wanted people to think they were having an affair…when they weren’t. Yeah, that’s right, as crazy as it sounds. Make your enemies think there’s a physical relationship or else why flaunt it?
Michelle Malkin has tweets from Fox News’ Jennifer Griffin up:
“Exposure of Broadwell affair may have all to do with Benghazi – sources. Petraeus mistress Broadwell may have revealed classified info.
“Did Paula Broadwell reveal secret or classified information at Denver speech, suggested real reason for attack were Libyans held at Annex.
“Broadwell comment on CIA prisoners being reason for attack may be the clue that has been missing about what happened in Benghazi on Sept 11.
“CIA pushing back on Foreign Policy report re: Broadwell revelations in Denver…suggesting they got out of the detention business in 2009
“Libyans held at CIA Annex and handed over to Libyan authorities before GRS left base – were they the real reason for the attack on CIA?
“Interrogations were done at Benghazi Annex. CIA denies, citing 2009 Executive Order 13491 which halted CIA’s detention authority.
“What happened to the 3 Libyans who were held at the CIA Annex in Benghazi? Source told Fox they were handed to Libyans when annex abandoned.
“Check Fox News.com shortly for more details on what Broadwell said and what was going on at Annex – was Congress/POTUS aware?”
Kelley is a little ewww…
I’ve been on the forefront of crude jokes but let’s be real. For a 37 year old mom with three babies under her belt, Ms Kelly is smoking. While I have an aversion to Silicone, it is possible that they are live rather than Mamorex. If they are live then they are probably sagging to her navel rather than her knees, but real men don’t have a problem with that. The negligée seems inappropriate, but it appears to be decently opaque and she is wearing something under it.
That being said, I’d. Still like to see an oil wrestling match between Ms Broadwell and Ms Kelly.
Broadwell’s father: ‘This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out’
http://washingtonexaminer.com/broadwells-father-this-is-about-something-else-entirely-and-the-truth-will-come-out/article/2513237#.UKE12OOe–8
Fox News is reporting that Broadwell set up a number of dummy email accounts in order to harass Jill Kelly.
OK, wolverines, here is the money question of the day: why would Broadwell want to harass Jill Kelly if Broadwell was the one to break it off with Petreaus after she returned stateside? Surely Broadwell knew Kelly was a family friend, and close to Holly Petreaus. So why the harassment? What was Broadwell trying to gain?
Somewhere in this story is a big, fat hairy rat.
Broadwell was trying to bring attention to the affair to discredit Gen Petreus?
Is Broadwell one of Obama’s Brownbras?
Better take her dress off to check.
Sorry, this is so sordid that I just can’t help myself.
I did think of that. Broadwell = Obama tool.
At this point, we have to understand that disinformation is being sent out by all sides. Believe nothing. It’s much too early.
Need to ignore how it came out & stay focused on main story not get bogged down with girl on girl emails….
distract, distract, distract til story goes away is Chicago MO
Petraeus, Clinton etc need to go infront of Congress and swear under oath what they know happened in Benghazi before, during, and after Sept 11 or Congress should file legal charges against them for dereliction of duty..
Distractions will be full court press until Congress adjoins for holidays…can’t wait to see what whitehouse will try to jam thru in their absence.
I think that normally a situation like this would have been handled quietly, but since the FBI was involved, as well as two women, and the fact that Petreaus was well known to the public, they decided to air it for fear that it might be leaked and come back to bite them. That’s the “Benefit of the doubt” scenario. I have others. The timing was bad not matter what.
I think the Oval Office was trying to hold the affair over Petreaus’ head in order to get him to play along with their spin on Benghazi. I also think Petreaus is not the kind to be blackmailed, by anyone, so he just outed himself. That leaves the Oval Office with an empty bag and nothing to hold over him.
Let the games begin. On Thursday, actually.
Hi Retire…That’s an excellent scenario! The question would be “How and when did they have knowledge of the affair”? We just don’t have enough info yet.
Let me very clear; you don’t get to be director of the CIA until, and after, certain steps are taken. Petreaus would have had to fill out a lengthy questionaire that would have asked him specifically about any indiscretions that would subject him to a) blackmail or b) national embarrassment, including an extramarital affair. He would have taken a lie decector test, with the same questions. And the FBI investigation would have reported what he had for breakfast as a kindergartner. No stone would have been left unturned.
That information goes directly to the White House, and consequently, since only the President can make the nomination, directly to the President. All this crap about Obama not knowing leaves only two options: a) it’s a lie or b) Obama is not in control of the Oval Office and is truely an empty chair being controled by Valerie Jarrett. Neither option is comforting.
A flurry of stories came out today that float the unbelievable notion that the General didn’t begin his affair until he was out of the army and already the Director. From all reports of journalists who saw their behavior together in Afghanistan, that just doesn’t float.
I’m assuming this is all Benghazi-related, but I still can’t figure out exactly what’s going on. Apparently the affair between Petreaus and the woman (women?) is for real, so I’m not sure how it all fits in. Was there just some convenient “extramarital” stuff that was used against Petreaus when the time was right?
The affair between Petreaus and the woman (women?),
IMO this is “The Obama Con,” Women working in The Brief Squad.
Mission: Side Step
Benghazi was set up to run guns – Period.
No gun running = no Benghazi = no dead American Ambassador = no dead SEALS = no dead Americans & Libyans = no love triangles etc.
Benghazi used as a prison? It doesn’t look as if the Benghazi compound is set up to be a prison. Maybe a Depot/Halfway/Safe House.
Mission: “Catch & Release” – funneling prisoners from Gitmo? Where is the Blind Sheik ?
Also possible the “outing” originated from Broadwell’s husband.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/11/white_house_scrambles_to_explain_why_obama_didnt_know_of_petreaus_affair_until_after_the_election_comments.html#disqus_thread
Read it for the comments, and look for the themes.
My thoughts keep going back to this idea: being well informed isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit when you’re up against the Destruction Party. Having endless amounts of information means nothing when the majority is all right with official deception.
Willful Suspension of Disbelief is now the rule. I’m beginning to think that any time we choose to have a “serious conversation” about anything, it’s so flawed from the outset because most of the raw material from which we draw for content is already not the truth in one form or another.
Deception: the new reality. Deceived: the voting base.
OK, here we go:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-deemed-petraeus-affair-part-criminal-intel-probe/story?id=17696177#.UKGPHWfCaSp
One of the democrat leak joints is now saying there may be criminal charges against Petreaus. Definitely, definitely there is someone in the White House that has determined that they better take the heat level against Petreaus to another level. Talk and criminal charges will be slammed on you. Welcome to the world of George Zimmerman, Mr. Petreaus, where media narratives to smear you are carried out when you aren’t falling in line with the story they are told to spin.
There could be charges under the UCMJ if he had the affair while still in the Army. But it would be unusual since she wasn’t his subordinate in the military. There could be criminal charges against Broadwell if she cyber-stalked Kelly and threatened her.
This whole thing makes a really nice distraction from Benghazi. Everybody likes a sex scandal but nobody understands Benghazi. I hope this is not the distraction that sinks any further investigation into Benghazi.
that’s exactly what this sordid mess is, distract from Benghazi and decimate Petraeus to a point his word means nothing on the stand.
I hope he does not end up like Vince Foster
Now the Wall Street Journal is reporting that the FBI agent who started the investigation into the threatening emails Jill Kelley was receiving has been under investigation himself by FBI’s internal affairs. He was a friend of Jill Kelley’s and had become personally involved with the case, to the point of sending her a photo of himself shirtless. The agent was barred from taking part in the investigation sometime last summer.
The article starts on the front page. I subscribe so I can’t tell if it’s behind a paywall or not.
Wow, if this is a cover-up for Benghazi, they’re doing it the right way. They clearly know what most Americans care about.
“Yeah, yeah, I know, I’ve heard all about that Ben Gazarra stuff… what? Ben Gozzi? Yeah, whatever. That’s interesting and all, but let’s get back to the affair! Oh my God, did you see the dress she was wearing? And that General likes HER more than HER? What an idiot! And now another guy is involved? This is getting good… REAL good!”
http://www.federalobserver.com/2012/11/03/dvorak-was-romney-right-about-russia-the-benghazi-connection/
This is a pre-election column written by someone who was puzzling the Russian piece into the Benghazi story….
There’s some stuff in the comments on Ulsterman referencing the concept, and I couldn’t find the exact column the commenter referred to, but I think this is the same write (Dvorak)…
Consider the arms to Iran activity, and the not-so-secret liaison between Russian and Iran…and yet Russia’s former ally-relationship with Gadaffi…there’s got to be something somewhere in all this mess that reflects Russia’s long term goals–which are definitely anti-Islam, but if they can use the Islamists’ terrorism as leverage to achieve some of their desires in the meantime….., oh, well.
And don’t forget the silent-never-spoken-of-visit that Putin paid to Israel mid-summer.
That still has not been explained anywhere that I’m aware of.
Anything with Russia involving Iran is not accidental…
In the linked article,
Breaking: FBI agents raid Paula Broadwell’s home
http://twitchy.com/2012/11/12/breaking-fbi-agents-raid-paul-broadwells-home/
Whoa!
Anyone watching c-span right now? Pee-rz got served.
Michael Hastings just made Morgan look like a fruit salad.
Just saw repeat, thx for noting it Snaps. Hastings from Buzzfeed shut Morgan and all the other Petraeus supporters on show down. His arguements makes you wonder whether Petraeus was blackmailed by Obama holding the affair over his head into his actions during Iraq War to present day.
Link?
Haven’t found video yet but was Piers Morgan show tonight@3/4 thru.
Found it
http://m.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/11/guess-whos-not-getting-invited-piers-morgans-christmas-party/58938/
Jill was first presented at a JSOC – State Dept. liaison.
She is neither.
Nor is JSOC at MacDill, AFB, Tampa, or Florida.
FBI needs to raid the Kelley residence asap.
Anything and everything to take our eyes off Barry, oops I meant B. H. Obama our pandering closet Muslim-in-thief.
PETRAEUS COULD BE PROSECUTED BY MILITARY FOR ADULTERY…that’s the headline on Breitbart.
Like someone commented the other day–their concern about morals at this point is really rich.
Is there any possibility that anyone who is constantly accusing conservatives of trying to run people’s lives (re babies and the def. of marriage) sees the irony here? I doubt it, since this one serves their purposes. When a lie becomes the truth and the truth becomes a lie.
It’s really too bad there’s not a truth gyroscope of some kind. There will be, eventually, when God asks these liars to ‘splain themselves. In the meantime, we mortals just get dizzy …. everything is fastened at its base by someone…to perform a particular task for the moment.